I honestly can not recall a State of the Union address which has received less hype, and to be honest, I can’t think of one I care less about. No amount of Bush bumbling through a speech written by other people will change my mind- Bush, through his actions and incompetence, have defined his Presidency already. This man and his group of crooks and frauds ruined the GOP, and have done what they can to screw up the country.
I guess I have a well-developed case of Bush Derangement Syndrome, and Bush himself gave it to me. I doubt I will even watch tonight.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
That’s OK.
YouWeEveryoneEveryone less 27% might be deranged, but Bush is deformed. You’re still doing better on the scale of human normalcy.4tehlulz
I…yeah, I can’t even care enough to make some snarky comment about it.
jack fate
OMFG, why don’t you just get some patculli oil, your favorite Marxist screed and a Starbucksā¢ coffee and keep your hippie-ass away from the TV for a night? heh. . . I was tempted to go to a State of the Union party tonight, but I think bong-hits and night on the couch with the cool documentary “Dig” will be more entertaining and fulfilling.
jrg
The liberal media has desensitized you to the dangers of human-animal hybrids, John.
Seriously, I cannot listen to Bush any more. When he does manage to complete a sentence, what results is irrelevant at best, and a mean-spirited lie at worst.
Punchy
John, please tell me you saw this. This is all over the intertubes this morn. From the esteemed Washington Post:
Conspiracy theorists are going bonkers over this. I just think it reflects just how fuckin stupid the MSM really is.
Bombadil
I may watch the first few minutes just to see what kind of reception he gets from Congress when he enters the chamber. It’s generally quite boisterous (with most of the noise coming from the President’s party’s side of the house), but I’m wondering if it will be more subdued. After that, I’m switching channels to something more intellectually stimulating. Maybe Spike TV has some wrestling scheduled.
demimondian
I can’t make the math add up, actually. Did Clinton give the SOTU in 2001? Or is 44 going to give the SOTU in 2009? Otherwise, it should be GWB’s eighth SOTU, shouldn’t it?
Ned Raggett
Oh there’s hype, John. Larry Kudlow is nothing but hype.
Ned Raggett
I heartily recommend this. Fantastic film, though it’s not the whole story of course (I know a number of the principals through various people).
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
“Going” is incorrect. They are already. That’s part of the definition.
The preznit can give as many State of the Unions he wants. He just has to give a minimum of 1 per year.
Dug Jay
The President will be disappointed.
ThymeZone
Bush is largely irrelevant now, unless he does something really drastically stupid or crazy, which of course is always a distinct possibility.
What matters at this point is his legacy … or more to the point, whether we are able to basically crush his legacy like a beer can and give it the treatment it deserves. That opportunity is focussed on Nov 5.
To that end, please consider the insane (and I mean, truly insane) stuff going on in the GOP primary races this last weekend.
John McCain insists that Mittney made some sort of “withdrawal date” statement last summer. On Meet the Press yesterday, the lunatic old liar said that the problem with Mitt’s putative malapropism is that if we set a withdrawal date, Al Qaeda would be telling the world that they beat the United States.
You have to read the entire McCain MTP transcript to fully appreciate the complete insanity and delusion packaged up in the crap he is saying. Read, and ponder the crazy.
But understand, according to this view, we are staying in Iraq and killing people so that we stop Al Qaeda from trashtalking the United States. We are fighting a war to prevent schoolyard taunts.
Your war on terror is now the War on Smack.
I find this to be stupefying. I find that I seriously want to put John McCain in jail, to physically shut him up.
How many days before Nov 5? I can’t count when I’m this pissed off.
ThymeZone
Bush made the SOTU in 2001.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha. Mbwuhahahahaaaaaa!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
Svensker
With any luck, the Senate Dems will vote “no” on cloture (re FISA) today, and the preznit will get to do his “the Democrats wants the Terraists to Kill You!!” pissy Boy King thang tonite. (Anyone who wants to call their Senators and urge them to vote against cloture today gets extra pony points. See Greendwald or FDL for details.)
Why is this Dubya creature still president?
Dreggas
I wonder if this will be a repeat of 01 considering we’re now right back where we were…focusing on Afghanistan.
Seriously, I think the entire congress and those gathered should either flip the fucker off in unison or better yet moon the dumb bastard.
Bombadil
For what it’s worth, from Wikipedia
TheFountainHead
Hmmm, clean my apartment or spend my evening yelling incoherently at the TV set.
Yaah, I think I’ll just clean the apartment.
scarshapedstar
I hate to give the terrorists ideas, but what if they simply started telling the world that they beat the United States anyway?
Would we all die?
D. Mason
Bent over in front of Bush with their pants down, I’m pretty sure the novelty of that move is looooong gone by now.
Dreggas
TZ,
It’s even worse, there are people who really believe the shit McCain is peddling. One of my neighbors has a freaking bumper sticker taped to their apartment window that says “The War In Iraq Saves American Lives”.
Jen
As someone mentioned Greenwald and the filibuster, let me just quote this, reverently:
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
Should it surprise me that Dug Jay believes he can speak for the preznit?
Damn, some people are just nakedly stupid. Even on the Web.
/Not to mention the SotU is demanded for the benefit of Congress, not the benefit of the executive.
cleek
i’m one step ahead of GG, i guess.
Jake
Man, I don’t even what to think of what he’d have to do that would stand out against the background of non-stop shrieking, flaming stoopid.
OxyCon
Isn’t this the time of year we usually hear about the big “Bush SOTU Bounce”?
Hahaha.
Or as Bush would put it:
Hehehe.
Robert Johnston
I don’t understand why anyone ever watches any State of the Union address. The SotU long ago lost any semblance of being a meaningful speech on the state of the country, having fully devolved into an hour long stump speech/photo op. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the first candidate to promise to forgo the SotU speech in favor of a constitutionally sufficient written report to Congress will get my vote.
D. Mason
I assume you’ve already slipped soem recruitment literature under their door right?
ThymeZone
Jesus H. Christ.
Why not just “War Is Peace?”
It’s catchier.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
Please ask them — for me — when exactly it was that the members of the American military lost their nationality en masse?
Punchy
This vote for cloture, against cloture, for a filibuster is cloture, etc. crap always confuses the hell outta me.
I cant wait for telecoms to waive their immunity papers (you know their getting it one way or the other, either by statute or by executive order), then brazenly admit they’ve been spying on everyday Americans for years. And extend the big middle finger to every federal judge on the bench.
PaulW
What the hell do you think he’s gonna say? “The state of the union is strong.” Yeah right. Housing’s gone south, we’re in debt to China up to our earlobes, and oh yeah we’re still killing and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan with no end in sight.
He’s also gonna ask for more tax cuts and more tax cuts and more money to fight in Iraq and more tax cuts and also announce he’s going to pardon every person in his administration just to make sure none of them have to ‘fess up for their crimes for the past 7 years.
Jake
WTF? Are the soldiers getting killed over there fucking aliens or something?
LiberalTarian
Show me something GW Bush did that was neither stupid nor crazy. Just one thing. Of course, he will be infamous for all the things he did that were both stupid and crazy, just stupid, or just crazy. He’s a one-man fuckup trifecta.
TenguPhule
The Drinking Game for the SOTU 2008
1 drink if he says “Strong” and “Economy” in the same sentence.
1 drink for every mention of Tax cuts.
1 drink for Terror.
1 drink for War.
2 Drinks if he has the guts to mention Iran, Iraq or Afghanistan (finish the bottle if he does all three without pausing to take a breath.
1 drink for bipartisan.
2 drinks for any digs against the Democrats.
Finish the bottle if housing and/or Greenspan is mentioned.
1 Drink if the speech lasts more then half an hour.
3 Drinks if it’s under to celebrate.
Finish the bottle if he flubs any common words.
Dreggas
D. Mason, TZ, and Caidence,
As for recruitment literature they’re old, too old even under our currently lax enlistment requirements to serve. They also have a bumper sticker that basically advocates blowing up the UN since they are “Un-American” and hate us.
The Other Steve
Who is this Bush you all speak of?
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
Good god, man. Alcohol poisoning much?
Krista
Can you put up a bumper sticker in your own window that says, “My Neighbour is a Pants-Wetting Idiot”?
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
Screw recruitment literature. Tell them RedState needs $15K to keep running. I’m sure they’ll give til it hurts.
Jen
TenguPhule’s drinking game is most definitely Against Medical Advice.
is funny, but would definitely peg you as a Canadian/British Surrender Monkey.
Krista
Right…the superfluous “u”. Foiled again.
Svensker
Yes, it’s incredibly confusing and I don’t understand exactly WTH “cloture” is either. But I do know that a winning YES cloture vote today will bring the bad telecom-immunity-containing FISA bill up for a vote immediately and there will not be enough votes nor any procedure available to stop it. A NO cloture vote will delay that and — possibly, hopefully, why not try? — allow time to marshal votes against the bad bill.
So CALL YOUR SENATORS and ask them to VOTE NO ON CLOTURE today. The vote comes up at 4:30, so get thee to the phones. Plenty of time for despair later. :)
Jen
My Senators are idiots because Edwards abandoned us to make Quixotic Presidential Runs.
Dammit.
demimondian
Teh Googley is ur friend when it comes to odd words: etyomology of cloture.
Basically, its roots go back to the Latin word from which cloister is derived, with the particular sense of “to enclose or bound” — to limit debate by setting a bound outside of which it cannot extend.
ThymeZone
It’s surprising how many things go better with bong hits.
Zifnab
Also, Jesus.
Unfortunately, you are prohibited from combining Bong Hits and Jesus without the risk of being sued.
ThymeZone
Come and get it, brothers and sisters.
Wear Essential Oil Until January 2009, people. Make a statement.
demimondian
No, you’re allowed to combine Bong Hits with Jesus. You just can’t talk about it.
Bong hits: the love of God that dares not speak its name.
cleek
Dole is a fine American, and a true patriot!
remember her stirring words, the next time you want to call that great woman an ‘idiot’:
idiot?
slander!
Jen
What kills me about Liddy Dole is her ability to sell herself as a “moderate”. People *actually* believe that and she is in more or less lockstep with Bush, when she isn’t more conservative than him, as in immigration. Unfortunately she seems to be immune.
Dole, Helms, Edwards, conservative Democratic governors forever, it’s a weird-ass state, no doubt.
ThymeZone
It kills me that she can sell herself at all. The woman is a complete blithering idiot and prevaricator.
Jamey
Bush on The State of the Union: “Awww, I hope it’s Maine this year! Mom and Dad would be so happy!
Pixie
The drinking game might be fun if I wouldn’t be forced into an alcohol coma within the first 4 minutes =/
The Other Hugh Hewitt
For years, the bad news coming out of Iraq has drowned out the good news about the economy.
Sadly, this year the bad news about the economy has turned attention away from the tremendous progress coming from Iraq.
binzinerator
Here’s something that told me more about the State of the Union than anything that lying moron Bush could ever mumble about:
I was in the waiting room today at the Doctor’s, waiting, natch. Nothing to read but kid’s magazines and an issue of Redbook from Aug 2007. Along with Kelly Ripa on the cover, there’s a story on the Iraq war. I look inside and read it.
It starts off by saying how everybody’s got an opinion on the war, and how divisive it has been. I’m thinking yes that’s very true.
And in the very first paragraph it says it would be helpful to review what was the war was about. And, to begin the effort to make sense of all this opinion and divisiveness in America, it starts with a bit of history of the war, that the United States declared war on Iraq in 2003, and that we are in a war to bring democracy to Iraq.
That is the premise the rest of the article is based on. The United States declared war on Iraq. And the war is for bringing democracy to Iraq.
Well, three things about these lies came to mind. One was the tone: it was almost an aside, as if it was stating what everyone already knew. As if noting the fact that the sun rises in the east.
Second was the sheer dishonesty of that supposed “let’s sort this out by starting back at the beginning” bit. It was a rotted lie masquerading as a cure for the symptoms of rotted lies.
There was not one fucking mention of WMDs, either anthrax or nukes. It said nothing about the hundreds of times we were told how important getting these non-exstent weapons were to our survival as a nation. The reporter didn’t even point out that the reason for the war had even changed, even as she acknowledged in an oblique way, some of the shifts!
And third, this whole whitewashing of the war means we can never have any meaningful analysis or reconciliation as a nation — which ironically was supposedly the intention of the article. Forget about learning anything from the war.
This is what has been laying on coffee tables for months in doctor’s offices and other places around the nation. This is what has been laying around for months in people’s heads. This, people, was a hint of the real State of the Union.
The State of the Union is that the history and unpleasant truths of even a few dozen months ago have been successfully rewritten in people’s minds by sociopathic liars like George W. Bush assisted by a complicit media.
The State of the Union is that people have been successfully lied to, and now believe, that the US government actually declared war on Iraq, and the war’s all about bringing democracy to Saddam’s people. And those delusions are reinforced everywhere, even found alongside Goofus and Gallant in the pile of bland magazines at the doctor’s office.
Hey, what are those WMDs thingies again? Well, since they didn’t find any so it’s obviously not important…
The State of the Union is still in a state of make-believe.
Sasha
You tag reads “I Read These Morons So You Don’t Have To”. I’d say that includes watching SOTU speeches too.
PazuzusPetals
Punchy,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the MSM isn’t exactly “f*&^%n stupid” when they say “his seventh and probably final State of the Union Address.”
Outgoing presidents can deliver SOTU addresses, and have so in the past. Truman did in 1953, Eisenhower in 1961 (the military-industrial complex speech), and Carter in 1981. Not all choose to do so, but it’s their constitutional mandate.