Rick, you must have seen the “I rather be waterboarded than vote for McCain” button I saw at CPAC. Disgraceful on multiple levels.
K-Lo, Thursday, after Romney stated that he was getting out of the race so the democrats couldn’t surrender to Osama:
In both the case of Fred Thompson, and now Mitt Romney, the best speech of each candidate’s respective campaign was his last.
Five years of listening to these fatheaded failures toady the administration line, smearing everyone as defeatists or traitors, and they are still up to the same old bullshit. On top of all the failed policies of this administration, there was this kind of rhetoric pushing me away. I honestly have never been more motivated to vote than I was in the 20+ years as a Republican, and I would be lying if I was just excited to vote for Obama. I am just as excited to vote against the K-Lo’s and the Levin’s and the rest of that repugnant and repellent crowd.
myiq2xu
I get that same warm fuzzy feeling every two years.
myiq2xu
This certainly fits with the title of this thread:
You go Bubble Boy!
And take Cheney with you!
Richard Bottoms
Your rage is even more fun to watch since you voted for them way back when.
Forgiven but never forgotten.
The Grand Panjandrum
Earth to Bush!
Earth to Bush!
Earth to Bush!
Tap. Tap. Tap. Jesus! Is this thing on?
Chuck Butcher
The problem, John, is where do you go from here, in 2,4,6,8 years? The Democrats aren’t going to go to small government, etc and without Bush but similar to today’s Republicans aren’t going to change w/o something catastrophic if then.
Ratufa
“So the democrats couldn’t surrender to Obama.” ?
If Obama wins the nomination, this type of mistake is going to drive me nuts all through the election.
calipygian
I though K-Lo liked waterboarding.
I guess what was distasteful wasn’t the actual torturing part.
b-psycho
I assume the typo was deliberate, as a reminder of what the Republicans plan to do when their nominee is in place.
jrg
Yes, I heard that some members of the crowd were wearing purple heart band-aids, mocking McCain’s sacrifice in Vietnam. It’s a good thing that principled conservative columnists like Kathryn Lopez are going to nip this hateful talk in the bud.
Because, you know, conservatives just started talking like this yesterday.
Here’s a little axiom that Republicans should try to remember: “If you lay down with dogs, you catch fleas”.
Social Conservatives may find this axiom to remember as follows: “If, hypothetically speaking, you had sex with a dog, God would give you fleas and your wife would leave you.”
John Cole
Sadly, no.
MobiusKlein
Purple Heart Band-aids == Spitting on the the troops.
It was like showing up in blackface to the NAACP convention.
myiq2xu
It appears they wouldn’t support St. Ronnie either:
These guys remind me of Molly Ivins’ comment about Phil Gramm: “Even his friends don’t like him.”
myiq2xu
Oops – That second paragraph was the money quote, it should have been italicized.
Graeme
I agree. I was happy to vote Obama on 2/5, and I’ll be happy to do it again. I voted Donk/Green for the first time in 2006, and it will feel good to do it again. It’s obvious they’re going to be in complete denial through November.
And then what? I can’t wait to read the postmortems. It will be so amusing to watch NRO try to keep pointing fingers leftward when it’s their party and their lack of criticism of this 7+ years of bullshit that got us here.
It will also be funny to read Instapundit. What will he do without his precious Iraq war to snark at the press about?
None of these assholes carrying water for this Administration will have anything to jerk off to when they’re meeting up in the toilet stalls. I can’t wait.
Yeah, I voted GOP in the past. That’s why I take it so personally. That’s why I can’t wait for November. I’ll show ’em a stab in the back!
NonyNony
Chuck Butcher –
Life becomes a lot less frustrating once you realize that not only are the Republicans not going to change to be in favor of “small government, etc.”, they were never for most of those things in the first place. Limited government / state’s rights is just code for “we hate civil rights” – and the folks who didn’t realize this before found out glaringly during the Schaivo thing that Republicans don’t actually govern by “state’s rights” or “limited government” unless it benefits their pocketbooks.
Once you realize that neither party has a coherent political ideology at its core, it becomes a lot easier to get pragmatic about US politics and start figuring out what the most important thing is for you each election cycle. Becoming a “party cheerleader” for either side is a recipe for heartbreak (or worse) unless you’re the political equivalent of a football fan – rooting for one “side” over another and acting as if “victory” for a party is a goal in and of itself.
Wilfred
Blitzer asked John Boener how he would respond to Obama’s observation that the debt expanded from 4.5 trillion to 9 trillion under 7 years of Bush/Repubs. Answer: 9/11.
Bush did the right thing for the people who chose him – all those fat defense contracts, untold numbers in the prescription drug benefit/racket. Wait till health care – a license to print money, even better than war.
That’s not true at all. The ideology at the core of the Republican Party has always been:
Obama’s right: Don’t just change the players, change the game.
Punchy
Shorter K-Lobes: I can haz grammah?
Ivan Ivanovich Renko
Now that’s funny.
And let me tell you what’s even funnier:
Welcome to the Negro vote!
Ever since Lee Atwater, we’ve been tellin’ you folks that you were consorting with evil, but oh no, it was just pushing back against unchecked Federal power. State’s rights, y’all said. Welfare queens and forced busing, y’all said.
Well, enlightement comes far better late than never, so…
Welcome!
srv
Rolling Stone gives us the latest on those that keep us safe at night.
Turns out there was a WMD scare at a Chicago food festival. It literally turned out to be a turd.
You can’t make this shit up.
srv
h/t reddit
cbear
My God, you mean somebody finally invented the mythical “shit detector”???
Awesome.
Svensker
Welcome to the same club I joined a few years earlier,John. When the scales come off, it really is like going from black and white to Technicolor. Now the job is to either convert the rest, or marginalize them — no playing with knives or nukes if you’re still wearing the blinders.
Jake
Clearly we need to arrest all cancer patients!
Patients who get radiation therapy in DC cannot ride the Metro or go anywhere on The Mall for a few days after treatment. Those sniffer boxes are the reason why.
Now, I’m not saying anyone with cancer should do this, but a fair amount of hilarity could ensue if they were to take the train downtown and walk around for a while.
Wilfred
Somebody? America, pal. And hats off for the team that made the final confirmation.
Dug Jay
Don’t you just love these “red meat specials” of Mr. Cole? He must be getting paid by the number of visitors to his site as he continues to make the most deranged poster at Daily Kos look absolutely sane and rational by comparison.
myiq2xu
Imagine the fun if a whole bunch of them did it at the same time.
firebrand
If they want to be waterboarded rather than vote for McCain, I say indulge them. Maybe the horrifying experience of that torture will finally knock some sense into those fat heads of theirs.
Doug Wieboldt
Go Firebrand!
Since the only we’ll ever find out where all the Bush/Cheney skeletons are hidden, we should detain them on 1/20/09 and “render” them to Poland, Romania or Hungary for a few years of swimming lessons. Remember, it’s not torture, just enhanced interrogation.
Svensker
Proving firebrand’s point rather well…
Digital Amish
If I didn’t have children and grandchildren I wouldn’t mind watching the CPAC crowd drive the Republican party and their brand of conservatism accross the ditch and into a telephone pole. Sadly, with the Country riding in the back seat, the consequences seem a tad drastic at this point.
RSA
John’s forays into wingerland prompted me to try The Corner. My favorite line is from Jonah Goldberg yesterday:
The funny thing is, there’s a sense in which we’re in agreement.
cbear
I’m sure many of you have already seen this:
soldier/dogs
but, if not, go read a story that is both heartbreaking and wonderful.
John Cole
Wait a minute- are you going on record that waterboarding is torture?
Rick Taylor
Just in case you missed it, here’s the video of Jon Stewart’s response to Mitt Romney’s farewell speech.
The Grand Panjandrum
That was rich. My favorite quote from the post was when Jonah flip flops on Maher:
Shorter Jonah: I’m a whore. But only when money’s involved.
Can you imagine what lovely gems will be ripe for the plucking when a Democrat resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
myiq2xu
Karl Rove’s Amerika:
Just when you think they can’t go any lower, they bring in the excavting equipment.
p.a.
What would the World Court consider a worse torture, waterboarding or forced attendance at the CPAC convention?
The Grand Panjandrum
Scott Horton is part of my daily read and his coverage of the DOJ is remarkable. If these rat-bastards can get a sitting governor, regular citizens don’t have a chance. Throw these fuckers in a cell and give them the bastinado!
J Bean
I normally am unable to read the Orange County Register for fear of stroke, however this morning’s Comment section was a hoot. There was one anti-“Democrat Party” column and a passel of columns hating on John McC. I walked home from the coffee shop with a spring in my step and a lilt in my heart.
myiq2xu
Does John McCain have a reptilian brain?:
The picture of G-Dub is worth the visit.
The Other Steve
Bush weighed in on Obamarama today during his fox news interview, claiming that the problem with Obama is he’s going to attack Pakistan.
Someone check that guy into bellevue.
cbear
The level of corruption under The Chimpus is so unprecedented and pervasive as to be almost indescribable, and, IMO, its most egregious example is in regards to the subversion of justice for political gain.
Just try and imagine the utter lack of character, empathy, morals, and honor, it takes to deprive another human being of their fucking FREEDOM for political or financial gain.
Frankly, I cannot—and can only pray that these people, somehow, someway are made to pay a price for their sheer inhumanity.
dslak
Even if that were true, at least there are guys in Pakistan who had something to do with 9/11. I hope Bush’s ego, coupled with Fox’s need to fellate him, results in him hoggig the spotlight as his presidency winds down. It can only hurt McCain.
The Grand Panjandrum
I love the smell of
napalmschadefreude in the morning. —LTC Bill KilgoreJ BeanAnd believe you me, I’m with you.
demimondian
Paging Senator Craig…
myiq2xu
POTD!
Jake
Nope. Sorry. That would require a fRighty to see a non-fRighty (and a non-American too boot) as a human being with feelings and fears just like theirs.
Does. Not. Compute.
Jen
Myiq is cheerful in the face of Obama taking Maine!
/myiq sez grumble, grumble, all those damn Sudanese emigrants in Maine stealin’ this thing from Hillary…
j/k this thread is Troll-Free House Cookies
Jen
Changing the subject to, as TZ said, the SS Clinton losing water….
I say HRC wouldn’t concede to Jesus Christ Our Lord and Savior. I don’t see her backing down before Obama has 2,025 delegates. Other opinions?
John S.
Nope, she won’t.
She will fight to the bitter end using every means possible until someone gets the hook to pull her off stage. She won’t give two shits about what is good for the party, and quite frankly, she would set the DNC on fire and leave it ruins if she thought it would mean winning.
Aside from the fact that I am anti-oligarchy, this is one of my impressions of the Clintons: They really don’t give a rat’s ass about anybody except themselves. But hey, maybe she’ll prove me wrong if it comes down to that.
Ninerdave
I truly don’t get the right.
Washington stops the count with 87% reporting Huck is loosing by about 200 votes. McJoan has a rundown of what’s up here. Huck is rightly challenging the vote:
Then over at Red State I read:
242 votes? As a voter, this is absolutely incredible to me. It’s bullshit. As a GOP voter, I’d be spitting mad. Add in the fact that WA state apparently has effectively two votes (read the McJoan article).
Apparently to RedState, not having people’s votes count is no big deal.
Equal Opportunity Cynic
@Ninerdave,
In other words, a Republican candidate has an obligation to shut up and let the Washington caucus be stolen from him because otherwise, it weakens the GOP’s argument that Democrats should shut up and let elections be stolen from them?
At least they’re being honest about their own corruption.
Conservatively Liberal
No! You have got to be kidding! Wow, who would have ever guessed?
/snark
Delia
Stands to reason. If you’re a party based on unquestioning, bootlicking subservience to authority, it’s gonna get really awkward if your peons start getting restive and demand that their votes, you know, actually count for something. Especially just after the authorities have settled on the New Leader and they’re trying to get everyone lined up behind him. This only makes their work that much harder and they don’t need that. All those young gooper followers might remember what it’s like to live in a democracy or something.
firebrand
I’ll even go so far to say that waterboarding is a *gasp* violation of the Geneva Conventions, and is thus a war crime!!!
Conservatively Liberal
Headline News!
Magical Unity Pony Spotted In Maine!
Well, it was not exactly ‘spotted in Maine’. Rather, a very large pile of horse manure was found outside Clinton Campaign Headquarters in Bangor, Maine.
Due to the sheer size and volume of the ‘special delivery’, it is assumed that the Magical Unity Pony was looking for a rest stop and found one.
Ninerdave
Two EOC and CL:
Yeah I know, I know. 7+ years of listening to their screaming, reading their blog posts, etc. I didn’t think I could be shocked…but every once in a while, the do shock me. Well actually I’m beyond shocked.
It’s the willful ignorance or blatant disregard for the constitution and traditions; you know, the traditions that didn’t originate in Leave it to Beaver, the ones that actually count, small things like oh the right to vote and be counted.
It’s just jaw droping and it makes me, wanna fucking deport these people to, I dunno, a real dictatorship where they’ll feel comfortable.
Xanthippas
That can be arranged.
Dennis - SGMM
This just in: Clinton shuffles campaign team
Running out of money, replacing her campaign manager, one might think that the HMS First Woman President is taking on water.
Conservatively Liberal
Naah, she is just rearranging the deck chairs. ;)
Z
Grand P– But schadefreude makes the MUP cry.
Jen– myiq is only cheerful because the superdelegates, who have pledged in advance, have given Clinton a lead in delegates. I really think Obama is much more talented. It will really suck if she ends up winning, despite getting less of the popular vote, because she is much better connected.
TenguPhule
Another Edition of Stupid Marine being an Asshole
TenguPhule
No need to bring menopause into this.
myiq2xu
I agree, and I expect that Obama will do the same.
Eli and the Giants didn’t quit when the almost-perfect Patriots took the lead late in the game. There was time left on the clock and they played like they were in it to win it.
Winners never quit, and quitters never win.
myiq2xu
Or, in the words of Leo Durocher: “Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.”
He also said “Nice guys finish last.”
I want a candidate who won’t give up until the last hanging chad is counted.
ladonne
Just on a sports metaphor level, hasn’t this been overrun by: If your’re not cheating, you’re not trying?
Johnny Pez
I do not love thee, John McCain
The reason why, I can’t explain
But this I know, and know it plain
I do not love thee, John McCain
stickler
Jen, et al:
Hillary is not nuts. If the handwriting is on the wall (… and the moving finger writes, and it writ “your fundraising sucks and you’re going to end up with a weak tie at best…”), then she’ll be realistic enough to accept some kind of (exorbitant) bribe to stand aside.
Majority Speaker of the Senate, Ambassador to France, Secretary of State, or maybe Supreme Court Justice. Who knows. But all I know is, she’s flinty-eyed enough to jump the rails at a moment’s notice. A wild-eyed idealist she is not.
stickler
… or Majority Leader of the Senate, of course.
KG
The Clintons in Paris? That could be fun.
I’m not sure I’d be too happy with either Clinton on the Supreme Court – mainly because I don’t know much of anything about their legal careers outside of what one can find on wikipedia. Of course, very few actual practicing lawyers have any sense of jurisprudence and legal theories (mainly because they are looking to get their client a win, rather than what the long term ramifications are) – which is why so few lawyer make actual good judges. What I guess I’m saying is I’d prefer someone who has spent a career in the legal profession, preferably doing appellate work. As a marker, I have no problem with John Eastman or Erwin Chemerinski on the bench (and not just because I know both of them and studied under one of them).
taodon
So, I’m following the story about the Washington State irregularities and asked the following question on Red State:
I received this response from Neil Stevens:
So I did.
myiq2xu
“Cheeting” – Pinching an orange-colored loaf after a Cheetos binge.
Equal Opportunity Cynic
@ladonne:
That was recently adopted as the official Southeastern Conference motto. The University of Southern California sued, claiming that they had come up with it first.
And I haven’t even gotten into the steroids, the Tim Donaghy NBA game-fixing, the 2006 Italian Serie A scandal, etc. Yeah, sports is just a cesspool these days.
Equal Opportunity Cynic
Selective memory about my Patriots duly noted….
Dennis - SGMM
While we spar over which Democrat will be elected, it might be wise to consider the composition of the electorate.
The American electorate re-elected George W. Bush, 30% of the American electorate still approves of GWB’s job as president, 40% of them believe that Saddam had WMD’s, 64% believe that the Bible is literally true and the word of God.
“These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.”
myiq2xu
Must be red clay, cuz they call them “red states.”
Jen
Ironically, Obama would be light-years better at that, too.
I don’t see HRC on SCOTUS happening, but that would be a fun confirmation hearing…
Jen
Ironically, Obama would be light-years better at that, too.
Jen
Something tells me this isn’t going to go well at all…
Zifnab
Code Blue! Code Blue! Someone is making an intelligent observation! Tin Foil hats people! Stat! Stat! Stat!
Dennis - SGMM
Talk about your fruit of the poisonous tree. They’re going to try these people on capital offenses in a secretive kangaroo court using evidence obtained all or in part by torture.
That sure will enhance our standing in the world. No wonder Mukasey refused to investigate the waterboarding: a nasty old investigation might have derailed this travesty. “Beacon of Democracy.” The only beacon of democracy that Bush knows about is the one he shoved up his ass for a reading light.
dslak
They’s going to be a problem with figuring out just where the torture the government has now admitted that it inflicted on these people plays into sentencing them. In addition, if somebody’s going to be executed for a crime, they have the right to a fair and public trial.
That’s what we learned on social studies class anyway, but that was all probably just a bunch of communist, hippy propaganda.
Tom Shipley
Along the same line. Andrew McCarthy talking about McCain:
“Still, I don’t think he is a committed conservative, and his penchant for demonizing all opposition is, to me, extremely off-putting.”
If he really feels that demonzing all opposition is off-putting, he must REALLY hate being a Republican.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
$10 says that if they can’t
dispose ofkill thetortured witnessesterrorists by Inauguration Day, KSM et al. will “escape” Guantanamo to cause Havoc in Florida.Bush will “offer” to stay on another 3 months…
Orders to shoot on site will be given. Who, exactly, to shoot on site will be left unclear.
Zifnab
You’ll note that those social studies class books were all printed before 9/11. And 9/11 did change everything.
In all seriousness, though, this is truly sick. I honestly don’t know what the death penalty is supposed to accomplish on these guys. For those of you who missed the earlier episodes, the original 19 hijackers got the death penalty and they didn’t seem to mind.
But you then have the question of how involved any of these six 9/11 accomplices were. And, I mean, seriously question. Are we executing the 9/11 “masterminds” or a bunch of groupies and shoe-shine boys? What crimes did these people actually commit? Are they terrorists or just victims of association? I don’t even know anymore. After all the bullshit of the last seven years, we could be running off to execute innocent men (as unlikely as that seems). But, if this was such an open-and-shut case, why both with the closed door kangaroo courts? The whole affair reeks of fraud. Slaughtering a few scapegoats won’t make America any safer, but it will go a long way towards blasting away our civil liberties for a pittance of psychological comfort.
Who the hell wants to make that trade?
ThymeZone
Imaginary HRC speech:
Look, I like Jesus Christ, I liked him before this campaign, and I will will like him after it’s over.
But Jesus and I have serious differences on issues like healthcare and foreign policy. Jesus’ plan will leave 15 million Americans unhealed, mine insures universal care. Jesus will go into the temple with the Iranians, I will hold those Iranians to standards set by the internation community of nations before I talk with them.
Is Jesus ready to govern next January, to hit the ground running? I think that’s a legitimate question. Well, I am ready, I know what to do on the first day.
4tehlulz
OT: Tom Lantos, RIP
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
Well, see, that’s the FUN part.
They were the closest things to the “masterminds” we ever got our hands on…
… but we tortured them to “find that out”
… and now we don’t really know whether they are masterminds
… and now what’s remaining of their mental capacity means they’re nothing BUT a bunch of shoe-shine boys.
I swear, the Bush Administration has given us all many beautiful lessons in irony.
The Other Steve
ThymeZone – Good speech but you didn’t mention the first day quite enough.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
Died, in office, at 80.
Tip o’ tha hat to ya, Lantos. You did good, sir.
Dennis - SGMM
“Ahh, but the strawberries that’s… that’s where I had them. They laughed at me and made jokes but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt and with… geometric logic… that a duplicate key to the wardroom icebox DID exist, and I’d have produced that key if they hadn’t of pulled the Caine out of action. I, I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow officers…”
ThymeZone
Is Jesus ready to hit the ground running?
My friends, Jesus wears sandals. Sandals. Have you tried to run in sandals? They flip, they flop, they slow you down.
I will run in track shoes and I will run with your voice and run away from the policies of George.W.Bush.!
Dennis - SGMM
…And Jesus heals the sick – at no charge! Do you have any idea what that will do to our fine market-based health care system? Healing the sick for free just shows that Jesus is too naive and dangerously out of touch to be president.
The Other Steve
That’s very sad.
Cain
And Jesus can feed the masses with bread and wine. Do you have any idea what that would do to our food industry? Feeding the population for free just shows that Jesus is to naive and dangerously out of touch to be president.
cain
ThymeZone
My friends, we don’t have time for a president to go out into the desert to find answers, to find himself, to wander and think and ponder while terrorists are plotting to harm you and your children and your fluffy kitten.
Jesus has shown us how he will handle that kind of pressure, he’ll disappear while he wanders aimlessly, while he hesitates. My 35 years of { unintelligible } make me ready to smite the enemy on the first day. To smite first and ask questions later.
Z
Not to mention Jesus’s extremely negative attitude toward the financial section of this country (ie money changers). As it stands, our financial sector is in trouble! The last thing we need, in the face of the mortgage crisis, is a revival of anti-usary laws!
ChrisA
I was pretty nonchalant about politics until the FREEPER stunts in Florida in 2000. Only heightened by the shenanigans in Ohio in 2004. I’ve been steadily donating, albeit small amounts, to various Democratic candidates since then 2000. More every year.
I grew up in what was conservative/republican part of my state. Those kind of fiscal/international conservative republicans are long gone from the GOP; including what used to be moderate republicans from the north-east.
NONE of the current GOP passes for what I remember as conservative or republican.
I don’t plan on voting for another republican in my lifetime. The current incarnation of the GOP needs to be ground into the dust and then have salt spread over the dirt so that NOTHING like it ever grows out of the same soil.
Hopefully something better can be reformed at some later date, because we do need some sort of balance for our system of government to work.
The CPAC, Limbaugh’s, Hannity’s et. al. need to be marginalized & scoffed into oblivion.
Original Lee
If y’all felt the earth shift left a few inches on Sunday, blame my white, elderly, curmudgeonly Reagan Democrat neighbor, who announced his intention of voting for Obama.
myiq2xu
I can’t believe you called Jesus a flip-flopper.