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Potomac Primary Open Thread

by John Cole|  February 12, 20087:51 pm| 41 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Jay Andrew Allen

    February 12, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    Obama beats the crap out of Clinton in VA, across all demographics except white women (and her lead there is narrow).

    This is the beginning of the end. No way Clinton can recover the momentum between now and March 4th, esp. if Obama also takes WI on the 19th.

  2. 2.

    cleek

    February 12, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    Dewey Defeats McCain !

  3. 3.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    Obama has more votes than McCain and Huckabee combined.

    The Democratic turnout is triple Republican.

  4. 4.

    firebrand

    February 12, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Obviously this landslide victory in Virginia for Obama doesn’t count, since Obama didn’t win the votes of people who voted for Hillary.

  5. 5.

    Jon H

    February 12, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    Feel the burn!

    “Clinton’s inevitable!”
    “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

  6. 6.

    Perry Como

    February 12, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Oh god. Some fuckbag on MSNBC just said Obama had the teleprompter out.

  7. 7.

    cleek

    February 12, 2008 at 8:05 pm

    Some fuckbag on MSNBC just said Obama had the teleprompter out.

    this country is doomed

  8. 8.

    firebrand

    February 12, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Some fuckbag on MSNBC just said Obama had the teleprompter out.

    Jesus Christ, that right-wing B.S. is already in the mainstream media. Those evil fuckers work fast.

  9. 9.

    Dennis - SGMM

    February 12, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    McCain doesn’t need any sissified teleprompter – he just says the same thing over and over and over and…

  10. 10.

    Jorge

    February 12, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    Islamofacismcommunisticsoccerterrorism will win if magic ponies are elected

  11. 11.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    Ok, I’m doing some back of the envelope calculations.

    Assuming Obama wins pretty much all the upcoming states with 60% to 40%.

    In order for Hillary to beat him, she’s got to win around 70% of the vote in Texas and Ohio.

    If she does 60% in those three states, the results would be tied. If Obama does better than 60% in upcoming states, and holds her closer to 50%, Obama will be ahead.

    The only states Hillary has done much over 50% are Arkansas and New York. So how likely is this?

  12. 12.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    John McCain wins Virginia!

    by a small margin

  13. 13.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    Hillary’s Deputy Campaign Manager is going home to spend more time with the family.

  14. 14.

    Helena Montana

    February 12, 2008 at 8:42 pm

    A fascinating article in The Atlantic with the backstory of the firing of Patti Solis-Doyle from the Clinton campaign:

  15. 15.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    Obama has more votes than all Republicans combined.

    Turnout is nearly 4 to 1 Democrat to Republican in Virginia.

  16. 16.

    ThymeZone

    February 12, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    History making stuff. Fun to watch. Is it November yet?

    Goodbye GOP, we won’t miss you.

  17. 17.

    Jake

    February 12, 2008 at 9:00 pm

    Yep, it did the old heart good to see everyone and their mom exercising their right to vote. Especially since it is crinkle-nuts cold here today and the most popular local sport is bitching about the weather. I haven’t checked yet to see if the fact that WATER IS FALLING FROM THE SKY (OMG! RED ALERT!) is having an impact at the polls.

  18. 18.

    p.lukasiak

    February 12, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    Obama has more votes than all Republicans combined.
    Turnout is nearly 4 to 1 Democrat to Republican in Virginia.

    which would be impressive if the media hadn’t already declared that the GOP race was over, and McCain had won.

    No Democrat except for Johnson in the 1964 landslide had won Virginia since 1952. And while the approximately 800,000 democratic primary votes that have been cast looks impressive, 3.2 million virginians went to the polls in the 2004 general election.

    In other words, its another “red state” victory for Obama.

    (when he wins as expected in MD, then you’re looking at something that will be important if neither candidate can wrap things up before the convention. VA, not so much.)

  19. 19.

    firebrand

    February 12, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    Did I just hear Hillary coming out to “Where the Streets Have No Name” in El Paso? Doesn’t she realize the first two lines of that song are “I want to run, I want to hide…”??

  20. 20.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    No Democrat except for Johnson in the 1964 landslide had won Virginia since 1952. And while the approximately 800,000 democratic primary votes that have been cast looks impressive, 3.2 million virginians went to the polls in the 2004 general election.

    This isn’t 1952.

  21. 21.

    zzyzx

    February 12, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    Virginia could easily be in play this year. The northern suburbs are growing and are pretty blue.

  22. 22.

    zzyzx

    February 12, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    I love 3 second projections. Those scream blowouts.

  23. 23.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Did I just hear Hillary coming out to “Where the Streets Have No Name” in El Paso? Doesn’t she realize the first two lines of that song are “I want to run, I want to hide…”??

    I thought I heard Run from Pink Floyd’s The Wall.

  24. 24.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 9:35 pm

    Virginia could easily be in play this year. The northern suburbs are growing and are pretty blue.

    No Democrat has won virginia since 1952!

    It’s unpossible!

  25. 25.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Ok. ok… I miscalculated. It’s a 2 to 1 turnout.

  26. 26.

    Z

    February 12, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Wow. I just got off the phone with my 2-time Bush supporting partisan Republic.an relative in VA, who said she supported Obama and would have voted for him, if the weather hadn’t derailed her efforts. (The ice storm made her slide off the MUP.) I knew she hated Hillary, but I would never have guessed she would have considered voting for Obama. I am seriously in shock.

    Woo hoo!

  27. 27.

    ThymeZone

    February 12, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Obama speaks.

  28. 28.

    ladonne

    February 12, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Obama’s first ads were on tv here tonight in Texas. The local blogs are getting over-run. It should be interesting leading up to the primary. I’m curious if others have noticed a change in local blogs.

  29. 29.

    zzyzx

    February 12, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    In 1992, people could have said, “No Democrat has won California since 1964!” State dynamics do change.

    And the Democrats did win VA in 64.

  30. 30.

    The Other Steve

    February 12, 2008 at 9:46 pm

    Why is the only demographic group Hillary won in Virginia and Maryland those making over $200k/year?

  31. 31.

    Jake

    February 12, 2008 at 9:53 pm

    Did I just hear Hillary coming out to “Where the Streets Have No Name” in El Paso? Doesn’t she realize the first two lines of that song are “I want to run, I want to hide…”??

    It could’ve been worse: “Seconds,” or “In the Name of Love.”

  32. 32.

    chopper

    February 12, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    In other words, its another “red state” victory for Obama.

    shorter: (in the manner of Droopy) oh, boo hoo. boo, hoo.

  33. 33.

    4jkb4ia

    February 12, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    McCain’s speech over. Sounds like a Republican. Hubby observed that he sounds presidential now. Tart remarks on “hope”.

  34. 34.

    4jkb4ia

    February 12, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    John Derbyshire found “Dreams From My Father” unreadable. This is very perplexing.

  35. 35.

    D-Chance.

    February 12, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    The Derb’s still holding out hope for Ron Paul. They don’t give up easy…

  36. 36.

    Tom in Texas

    February 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    In other words, its another “red state” victory for Obama.

    What about DC? Is that red, or a state for that matter?

    This whole “Obama can only win red states” meme is one of the dumber ones I’ve heard. He is winning Democratic primaries. It really doesn’t matter whether those Democrats he is bringing to the table come from Alabama or Vermont.

  37. 37.

    tBone

    February 12, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    In other words, its another “red state” victory for Obama.

    Mmmm, bitter tears. So delicious.

  38. 38.

    Jake

    February 12, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    What about DC? Is that red, or a state for that matter?

    D.C. is bluer than a Scotsman’s balls in January. I sometimes wonder if Bush can feel the loathing that residents of the city (and most of the surrounding ‘burbs) are beaming at him. It would explain his inability to form coherent phrases.

    He is winning Democratic primaries. It really doesn’t matter whether those Democrats he is bringing to the table come from Alabama or Vermont.

    Oh, don’t spoil the fun. The pundits can’t wank about how Obama/Hillary victories prove racism/sexism is dead if they have to take facts into consideration!

  39. 39.

    4jkb4ia

    February 13, 2008 at 12:49 am

    That’s why Derb linked to Steve Sailer in his post!

    Virginia is at best purple right now.

  40. 40.

    4jkb4ia

    February 13, 2008 at 12:54 am

    p.luk has a semblance of a point because that blowout was because of independents. If more of them had thought McCain needed their vote you would not have seen totals like this.

  41. 41.

    Tom in Texas

    February 13, 2008 at 12:58 am

    WTF kind of Independent is considering voting Republican anyway? Those that voted for Obama are highly unlikely to vote for McCain in the Gen.

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