Hold on to your seats:
Although it is too soon to tell whether the United States has entered a recession, there is mounting evidence that a recession has in fact begun. Key measures of economic activity stopped growing in December and January or actually began to decline. The collapse of house prices and the crisis in the credit markets continue to depress the real economy.
***If a recession does occur, it could last longer and be more painful than the past several downturns because of differences in its origin and character. The recessions that began in 1991 and 2001 lasted only eight months from the start of the downturn until the beginning of the recovery. Even the deeper recession of 1981 lasted only 16 months.
But these past recessions were caused by deliberate Federal Reserve policy aimed at reversing a rise in inflation. In those cases, the Fed increased real interest rates until it saw the economic slowdown that it thought would move us back toward price stability. It then reversed course, reducing interest rates and bringing the recession to an end.
In contrast, the real interest rate in 2006 and 2007 stayed at a relatively low level of less than 3%. A key cause of the present slowdown and potential recession was not a tightening of monetary policy but the bursting of the house-price bubble after six years of exceptionally rapid house-price increases. The Fed therefore will not be able to end the recession as it did previous ones by turning off a tight monetary policy.
And:
For the Federal Reserve and its chairman, Ben S. Bernanke, all this could not come at a worse time. With the credit markets in disarray from the collapse of the housing bubble, Mr. Bernanke is cutting rates in a headlong rush to blunt the risks of recession.
But in putting its emphasis above all on reviving growth, America’s central bank, according to some economists and even a few Fed officials, may face a bigger inflation problem down the road.
“They are cutting rates with a bill to be paid later,” said John Ryding, chief United States economist at Bear Stearns. “The question is not, will we get inflation, but how much will it cost to stuff the genie back in the bottle. This has the feel of 1970s stagflation.”
If Democrats were smart, they would begin to brand this the Bush recession, as the Republicans have already shown their cards. In this case, the Democrats would even have truth on their side- this is a Bush recession, and he should get full credit for it.
jenniebee
Sure, go ahead – let Greenspan off the hook for it.
Snarki, child of Loki
Bush recession #2.
The first one (early 2001) got started after Bush & gang started talking down the economy to get some more pressure for passing their tax cuts.
It’s like a matched set: 2 recessions, 2 stolen elections, 2 lost wars, 2 terrorist attacks on the US (9/11 and anthrax), 2 destroyed major american cities…
Uh oh, I gave away the Bush plan for 2008. Oh well, no one will belie 84;YR@j4# NO CARRIER
cleek
no, it’s the Pelosi Recession
salvage
They aren’t, if they were we’d have President Kerry instead of Bush Part II and endless war.
Zifnab
What continues to amaze me over and over again is how the Democrats manage to pass on such ripe opportunities to absolutely skewer the opposition.
You want to really stick it to the Republicans? This isn’t the Bush Recession or the Republican Recession or even the Conservative Recession.
Call it the “Tax Cut Recession”.
Point to the $1.4 Trillion give-away in 2001, and start talking about how all that money has done absolutely nothing for our economy. How personal debts are higher and national debts have doubled. How basic services go unfulfilled because the government can’t afford to pay the bills. How Katrina has devastated our Red State economies. How failure to implement universal medical coverage has put the cost of insurance on the backs of weakening businesses. And how all of these problems can be trailed right back to the $1.4 Trillion in tax cuts.
Then start the drum roll that will drive the Republicans insane. “Tax Cuts are bad for the economy.”
The Other Steve
Obviously this is evidence that we need to make permanent the Bush tax cuts.
scarshapedstar
Curse you, Bill Clinton!
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
“If”, “if”, “if”. If I had a Magical Unity Pony.
Wait a sec, I DO have a Magical Unity Pony!
Save us, Magical Unity Pony!
/This reminds me: Obama needs a theme song.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
OK, I’ve been upset enough this week. I didn’t need to see that.
Now I’m sitting here trying to remind myself that RedState has the social credit of the grumpy
6024 year-old at the end of the bar, slapping waitresses’ butts and calling the bartender“boss”“champ”. He’s also on his 9thTom CollinsRed Bull and Vodka(edited for RedState being run by ineffectual children)
grumpy realist
Good articles in the FT today on the continuous meltdown of the monolines.
Yeah, we’re probably going to go through a period of stagflation. (Remember that typical official inflation statistics leave out the costs of a) food and b) oil, so actual effective inflation is higher than what we’ve heard reported as the CPI).
The Fed is still more worried about deflation than inflation at present, so expect continual rate cuts. Which is akin to doing brain surgery with a meat axe, but hey, let’s ignore the fact that oil and other commodity prices are set by global demand, not US demand only.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
… says cleek
/i suck
Jeff
I, too, have seen similarities between what seems to be developing — slow growth with inflation and increasing unemployment — and the “stagflation of the 70s”.
One other similarity? A drastic increase in the price of crude oil over a very short period, i.e., 100% over two years.
Coincidence? You be the judge…
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
I’m not well-read on the economy tickers…
but I can vouch for seeing established businesses in core Manhattan have started shutting their doors. In Manhattan. The Land of Ivory Towers.
/uh oh
srv
I’d suggest this one.
Con Mhac
It’s electric!
Jake
Gee. I can see how there would be some lingering confusion over the state of the economy.
On the one hand we have everyone from experts in a given area to creatures who live under rocks saying “We’re fucked and it’s going to get worse!” Just as they’ve done a thousand times before.
On the other we have bAdmin shouting: “No really, everything’s fine and the tarrists win if you say otherwise or even ask about the data we’re using to support our statement!” Just as they’ve done a thousand times before.
So, just because the experts and creatures under rocks have been right 1,000 times and the bAdmin equally and devestatingly WRONG, doesn’t mean that the lay person can make any sort of informed guess about the state of the economy. Otherwise, the tarrist will win.
Ha, ha. I kid.
OF COURSE WE’RE IN A FUCKING RECESSION.
srv
Actually, I think Cinderellas lyrics are better
But whenever I’m around Obamabots, the song in this keeps going through my head.
curtadams
This absolutely Bush’s recession. The key element is loans on outrageously overvalued houses that the “owners” couldn’t pay even if they wanted to. Those loans will go bad and sweep away hundreds of billions in bank assets. The financial system is panicking because they know lots of respected entities are going to go belly up.
Well, back in 2003 Spitzer attempted to investigate the predatory loan practices which were the backbone of the mortgage abuse system that’s put us in this pickle. Predictably, Bush used the OCC to defend the crooks. Spitzer has not forgotten.
Perhaps we should call it “Bush the crook’s recession”.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
hahahah, fuck me I got Rick Rolled
I saw this:
and then this under it:
so I thought you posted The Electric Slide. /facepalm/
That was a silly attempt at a Rick Roll, but Con Mhac made it work for you.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
I don’t think you realize that most of us are mocking this “Obama Cult” meme.
But I freaking love that.
“SHUNNN the non believers!”
“SHUNN”
“ssshunnnnn”
demimondian
Jeez, src, couldn’t you at least have used this one. (Warning: creationist earworm alert.)
Fwiffo
Even the commenters at RedState aren’t buying it.
If you can’t sell it to those mouth-breathers, good luck with the general public. Everyone knows it’s the housing/credit bubble that’s at fault, and less than a year of putzing around by Democrats wasn’t gonna cause something like this.
On the other hand, a few are willing to bite on the reverse-tinkerbell school of economics…
Ellison, Ellensburg, Ellers, and Lambchop
Talking down the economy (the reverse-Tink) is only a valid economic mechanism if the lefty press/pols can blame Republicans for doing it, like they tried when the tech bubble burst on Clinton in 2000-01. A short history lesson from Salon:
So has the press been consistently reporting a Democratic “talking down” of the economy in 2007-08? Yeah, right. Even suggesting it is silly.
TenguPhule
I’m sorry, but the EEEL Pony Party that tinkers with economic indicators to say what they want needs to kindly STFU and let grownups try to figure out a way to clean up the mess.