Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

Radicalized white males who support Trump are pitching a tent in the abyss.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

Republicans choose power over democracy, every day.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

No Kings: Americans standing in the way of bad history saying “Oh, Fuck No!”

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Humiliatingly small and eclipsed by the derision of millions.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

The Giant Orange Man Baby is having a bad day.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. ~Thomas Jefferson

We can show the world that autocracy can be defeated.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Do we throw up our hands or do we roll up our sleeves? (hint, door #2)

We can’t confuse what’s necessary to win elections with the policies that we want to implement when we do.

Beware of advice from anyone for whom Democrats are “they” and not “we.”

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  4. 4.

    myiq2xu

    clinton supporters now pulling knives on people? Come on!

    We really support our candidate!

    Unlike Obots who are all talk.

  5. 5.

    dougie smooth

    Come on, it’s the last one. You can get through it. Plus, it’s not on until 9PM EST, which means Hillary can go R-rated. Should be some one-woman demolition derby awesomeness.

  6. 6.

    The Other Steve

    Oh man, now that American Hater General Casey is saying the Afghanistan anecdote Obama told is likely accurate.

    What will Amy Proctor do now!?

  7. 7.

    timb

    The MSNBC media types were giddy this morning with the possibility that the two would be at each other’s throats. The media in this country is embarrassing. They root for the very things they claim to oppose: negative campaigning, HRC bashing MUP’s head into a podium. I mean, they are the ones who are divisive. They are probably calling on Sean Hannity’s bitch, Bill Cunningham, to moderate.

  11. 11.

    myiq2xu

    Oh, and for everyone who thinks Hillaryis44 is “comedy gold, here’s a really funny site:

    To attack Obama, a very desperate Hillary ROTTEN CUNTon is leaking out the most heinous gunk imaginable, from the most rotten depths of her disgusting, sickening, cancerous, feminist, nazified, evil fucking CUNT

    ROFLMAO

  13. 13.

    The Other Steve

    Maybe we should chip in to buy John a T-shirt?

    I’m sure it would make him feel better.

    Wow, that’s offensive. Since when did you start calling Hillary a whore?

  16. 16.

    wasabi gasp

    Plus, it’s not on until 9PM EST, which means Hillary can go R-rated.

    R-rated?

    The trailer hinted a cockslapping.

  17. 17.

    myiq2xu

    Alas, there are no T-shirts yet for Johns favorite yet

    Maybe she has a nude webcam we could pay the subsciption for?

  19. 19.

    Ninerdave

    You’ve got to be fucking kidding me:

    Be careful who you frag. Having eliminated all terrorism in the real world, the U.S. intelligence community is working to develop software that will detect violent extremists infiltrating World of Warcraft and other massive multiplayer games, according to a data-mining report from the Director of National Intelligence.

    The Reynard project will begin by profiling online gaming behavior, then potentially move on to its ultimate goal of “automatically detecting suspicious behavior and actions in the virtual world.”

  20. 20.

    TheFountainHead

    Oh, and for everyone who thinks Hillaryis44 is “comedy gold, here’s a really funny site:

    That’s a website? Looked like somebody’s e-mail to me…

    Oh, and Ninerdave, I saw that a few days ago and linked it here. Good to know that the government is looking under all the right rocks..

  21. 21.

    demkat620

    Maybe its just me but those black McCain signs look a little funereal. If you are trying to counter the MUP, doesn’t the color need to have a little more pep?

    Oh and in case anyone forgot, Mark Halperin is an asshat.

  22. 22.

    myiq2xu

    Looked like somebody’s e-mail to me…

    Naw. This is somebody’s e-mail:

    An Obamabot has another thought, in yet another edition of Mr. Hope’s Fans:

    “Maybe that poster was right, you stink because don’t wash your s—– thoroughly. That can be a problem, when you smell really awful whenever you are around.”

    You can’t make this stuff up!

  24. 24.

    tBone

    Presidential debates myiq2’s incessant posting: Now more painful than YouTube wars.

    I honestly don’t think I can take anymore.

    Make the pain stop.

  30. 30.

    tBone

    Make the pain stop.

    Try biting the pillow

    The junior high level humor and the missing period punctuation is a dead giveaway, Darrell.

  32. 32.

    myiq2xu

    The junior high level humor and the missing period punctuation is a dead giveaway, Darrell.

    Periods are sexist

    And who the fuck is Darrell?

  33. 33.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    Clinton wasn’t that effective on turning the tables with healthcare so she took it up a notch with the pillow/SNL comments.

  34. 34.

    t jasper parnell

    Re first question and did you see SNL: HRC is tone deaf and was rightly grumbled at, although smart as all get out on issues. Then again, Re Health Care, so is BHM

  37. 37.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    The “always first” comments by Clinton ticked off Russert and now he’s taking it up a notch.

  43. 43.

    caustics

    I’m trying to watch this because I missed the last two debates. But, damn…this is so uncomfortable at this point.

    And I’m starting to wish Tim Russert would just go away.

  44. 44.

    dougie smooth

    zzyzx – you’re right, Obama is owning this debate so far. He is letting Hillary keep digging herself an enmity hole.

  46. 46.

    dougie smooth

    All they’re doing is trotting out quotes to make the candidates either look bad or defensive. How is this a debate? They should call it a justify-why-you’re-not-a-dirty-sucky-liar-bate.

  48. 48.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    Does Russert find a way to remind everyone that he is from Buffalo every chance he gets?

  49. 49.

    SteveinSC

    Tim Russert=Pumpkin Head. A smug self-important asshole. Actually I think he’s more like one of the Muppets. I think it was the scientist with his assistant, Beeker.

  52. 52.

    TR

    Does Russert find a way to remind everyone that he is from Buffalo every chance he gets?

    I think it’s his way of trying to pretend he’s not the ultimate Washington insider.

    But you’ve got to think people in Buffalo cringe every time.

  53. 53.

    rachel

    I think it was the scientist with his assistant, Beeker.

    Dr. Bunsen Honeydew. Now that you mention it, I see the resemblance.

  54. 54.

    myiq2xu

    It’s fun bouncing between sites and getting reactions

    “She’s winning”

    “He pwns her”

    There is only one area of agreement:

    “Russert is a dickhead.”

  55. 55.

    Mary

    Who the fuck is BHM?

    So no MSNBC on my tv, and I can’t get the fucking video player to work on IE or Firefox. I guess this is part of NBC’s fuckwad decision to offer online video only in the States.

  59. 59.

    4tehlulz

    >>Russert asks some really contrived, dumbass questions

    Some? Wouldn’t “many” or “just” be better word choices?

  60. 60.

    myiq2xu

    OMG Russert is fucking moron. Good on HRC for calling out his stupid hypotheticals.

    “If this happens and then that happens and then some other stuff happens, will you declare war on Canada?”

  62. 62.

    TR

    It’s only a matter of time before Obama and Williams just get up from the table and let Clinton and Russert scream interruptions at each other.

  63. 63.

    4tehlulz

    This thread is now about Tim Russert questions.

    “If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is around to hear it, would you bomb Pakistan?”

  64. 64.

    ThymeZone

    “If this happens and then that happens and then some other stuff happens, will you declare war on Canada?”

    Yes, three things always means war.

  65. 65.

    dougie smooth

    Russert: “If Cuba and the Soviet Union invade the United States, and everything goes to hell, will you commit to supporting vigilante action within the first six hours of the invasion?”

    Hillary: “What kind of stupid…”

    Russert: “No NOT stupid! THIS IS REALITY!”

  66. 66.

    TR

    OMG Russert is fucking moron. Good on HRC for calling out his stupid hypotheticals.

    Josh Marshall:

    What if we partly withdrew and then the Iraqis told us to completely withdraw and then al Qaida was elected president and then they allied with North Korea, do you have a policy ready for that!?!?!?!

  68. 68.

    p.lukasiak

    First round score — 0 to 0

    lots of punches, but nothing is really landing and doing any damage. I did notice how quickly Obama sequed out of discussing his foreign policy bona fides, but that’s probably just my bias…

  69. 69.

    TR

    Russert: “If Cuba and the Soviet Union invade the United States, and everything goes to hell, will you commit to supporting vigilante action within the first six hours of the invasion?”

    Woooooooollllvvvveeerrrrrriiiiiinnneeeessss!!!!

  70. 70.

    t jasper parnell

    Who the fuck is BHM?

    Ah, let me see, Big Human Manimal? Um, ah, Barry Human Munchables? Ahah, a typo. Hand in the air.

  71. 71.

    myiq2xu

    Russert thinks this is MTP where he can interrupt if people won’t give the answer he’s trying to force them to give with his loaded questions.

  72. 72.

    ThymeZone

    I did notice how quickly Obama sequed out of discussing his foreign policy bona fides, but that’s probably just my bias…

    What are hers? Foreign Policy By Injection? AUMF?

    She has no “bona fides” in that area AFAIC. And no, a fondness for Mexican food doesn’t count as foreign policy experience.

  73. 73.

    Grand Wazoo

    I’m posting buzzed but not drunk. I’ll work on it and get back to you later. But even sober, I would have to say, Russert sucks. The pain, he brings it with each question!

  74. 74.

    SteveinSC

    One of the two candidates on TV will be POTUS. First that asshole Russert interrupts Hillary and then Obama and then Hillary tries to respond and that crooked-jawed Brian Williams shuts Hillary off for a FUCKING AD!!!! What disrespect! Goddamn me if I became president if I wouldn’t call the two of them into the Oval Office and have them thrown down an elevator shaft. And as the fell I would yell down to them I getting the equal time provision reinstated by the FCC to fuck their networks.

  75. 75.

    caustics

    Okay, hands: Who’s posting drunk tonight?

    Are you volunteering to drive the thread home?

    What a guy.

  77. 77.

    Mary

    Be glad you even have a tube. NBC really hates Canada.

    So is there any choking or stabbing yet? Any drinking of milkshakes?

  78. 78.

    TR

    Is this MSNBC feed total shit, or is just my own personal tube that’s crap?

    I thought it was my TiVo getting antsy.

    It’s a shit feed. I think they’ve got a ton of snow in Cleveland, which might explain it.

  79. 79.

    myiq2xu

    Is this MSNBC feed total shit, or is just my own personal tube that’s crap?

    Mine too – It reminds me of the “talking stain” commercial

  81. 81.

    SteveinSC

    One of the two candidates on TV will be POTUS. First that asshole Russert interrupts Hillary and then Obama and then Hillary tries to respond and that crooked-jawed Brian Williams shuts Hillary off for a FUCKING Commercial Break! What disrespect! Goddamn me if I became president if I wouldn’t call the two of them into the Oval Office and have them thrown down an elevator shaft. And as they fell I would yell down to them that I was getting the equal time provision reinstated by the FCC to fuck their networks.

    There. I haven’t been drinking (but I should have) and my magnum opus was somehow fucked in posting. It is fixed now.

  83. 83.

    TR

    So is there any choking or stabbing yet?

    Hillary nearly choked herself with a lame sequence earlier complaining about how she always has to answer the first question and referencing the SNL pillow line yet again.

    Other than that, not much.

  84. 84.

    myiq2xu

    I think they’ve got a ton of snow in Cleveland, which might explain it.


    “This mountain is pure snow!

  87. 87.

    Royston Vasey

    What’s the history with the wingnut Bill Cunningham?
    Just caught him ranting on Faux Nooz (H&C)

  89. 89.

    Neal

    Okay, hands: Who’s posting drunk tonight?

    Hillary says “This is too important”: 2 shots

    Barack says “You know”: 2 shots

    Tim Russert acts like an ass: 1 shot (going easy here)

    Brian Williams makes the crowd giggle: 2 shots

    Hillary cries: five.

    This could be a fun game.

  90. 90.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    25 minutes left and it looks like Russert will hold Hillary in check by zinging both sides.

    Those who like soccer understand the value of a draw.

  97. 97.

    TR

    What the fuck is Russert doing with the Farrahkhan bullshit? How many times does he need Obama to denounce the man?

    Fuck you, Pumpkinhead.

  99. 99.

    myiq2xu

    His answer on public funding was better than her answer on taxes.

    Then Russert followed with “So you’re breaking your promise?”

  101. 101.

    myiq2xu

    Mad props to myiq2xu and TR for the Better Off Dead References!! Cusack Rules!!

    “I want my two dollars!”

    “Sorry your mom blew up, Ricky”

  103. 103.

    jake

    [Moderator asks dumbass hypothetical]

    [Candidate breaks into: “Would you like to swing on a star?”]

    Yeah. That’s what I’d like to see.

  105. 105.

    Dennis - SGMM

    On the tax return question her answer should be “Fuck you Tim”

    You’re right: if it’s good enough for the voters it’s good enough for Russert.

  106. 106.

    Mary

    Now Russert is hammering Obama on his pastor Wright’s statements regarding Israel. Good answer on the underlying issue without having to badmouth his pastor.

    Hillary jumping in — she rejects the support of anti-semites, drawing comparison with Obama. A hit, a palpable hit, I would say.

  109. 109.

    Neal

    Hey—this local station has a gorgeous feed!

    We should all buy Mary a present.
    Holy shit this is better.

  110. 110.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    Grand Wazoo Says:

    Mad props to myiq2xu and TR for the Better Off Dead References!! Cusack Rules!!

    February 26th, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Ok Badger, what’s a nice boy like you doing with big boy smut like this?

  112. 112.

    John Cole

    So who won the “reject and denounce” dance?

    I turned the tv on just in time for that round of stupid. I promptly turned it back off.

    Obama won and made her look stupid and petty and like she was playing the same old politics as usual. Once again she oversteps.

  114. 114.

    p.lukasiak

    Jesus Fucking Christ on a Pogo Stick!

    I mean, there wasn’t one substantive question that whole segment.

    And the BS questions about Farrakhan and that crap? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE!!!!

  116. 116.

    dougie smooth

    However despicably, Hillary opened a viable attack on the “reject” comparison, but then again got owned by Obama in his reponse. Case closed. Must be frustrating when you try to stab someone in the back and it keeps bouncing off and nicking your wrist.

  117. 117.

    t jasper parnell

    And in so far as it matters, no one won on rejection v renouncing, but, as is usually the case when asses ask asinine questions, America lost

  118. 118.

    myiq2xu

    You’re right: if it’s good enough for the voters it’s good enough for Russert.

    Like there’s gonna be a $1 million donation listed there from Osama bin Laden or something?

    Pumpkinhead was making it sound like she was hiding illegal donations by loaning her campaign money.

    If she was that dumb they would have nailed her and Bill 16 years ago.

  120. 120.

    John S.

    At least Russert is being an equal opportunity dickhead

    Which effectively is handing a victory to Obama.

    Russert had the daggers out for Hillary from the start and tried to get her off her game. Being a dick to Obama at the end is just him covering his ass so he can pretend like he wasn’t biased.

    I can’t even believe I just said that.

  121. 121.

    ScottS

    Obama made Clinton look small with “reject and denounce.” Game, set, match for this debate I think.

    The lame Russert questions should put to rest any remaining sense that Clinton is vetted and Obama isn’t, or won’t be able to bat those things back when the meanie Republicans bring it. He’s parried well. And I give Russert credit for interrupting bullshit answers from both candidates.

  122. 122.

    t jasper parnell

    When did, by the way, debate come to mean interrogation? Isn’t supposed to be a clash between individuals on the basis of a given proposal?

  124. 124.

    ThymeZone

    Hillary jumping in—she rejects the support of anti-semites,

    Yeah, really important if she is running for president of New York City.

    Hillary out-rejects Obama on anti-semitism? Good grief, we have some desperate commentary going on here.

  125. 125.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Like there’s gonna be a $1 million donation listed there from Osama bin Laden or something?

    Doubtful. However, I’ve had enough of secretiveness over the past few years. It’s become standard procedure, with the exception of Arnold Schwarzenegger, for a candidate to release his or her income tax returns. That Hillary does not just naturally suggests that there’s something that she doesn’t want Democratic primary voters to know.

  126. 126.

    myiq2xu

    Russert tried a Russia gotcha but it didn’t work on either one, except Hillary had problems pronouncing the new dudes name.

    Aw fuck, I was typing and Russert did a what if again

  127. 127.

    myiq2xu

    Doubtful. However, I’ve had enough of secretiveness over the past few years.

    The Clintons don’t need annual medical exams cuz the press looks at every mole, wart and polyp on both of them.

  129. 129.

    Mary

    Obama is being smart about turning away the hypothetical re Kosovo, and is also being gracious about the Clinton administration and how they set up the States to work well with the international community in Europe.

  132. 132.

    Mary

    Ooh — Obama regretting his lack of action re the horrendously stupid Schiavo vote. Points out that as a prof of constitutional law he should have known better. Nice!

    Taking control with final statement. More grace towards Clinton, suave handling of messianic expectations about him, while nailing down the nomination for himself tonight. I hope.

    I have a passport and a credit card. Is there any way somebody can sneak me into a voting booth this fall? Please?

  133. 133.

    caustics

    Eh. I’m starting to wonder if this whole “I’m Tim Russert! I have a giant head! I’ll fuck anything that MOOOVES” is mostly about commerce.

    I mean, half the Freepers admit to watching Kieth Olberman just to see the TWPITW.

  135. 135.

    4tehlulz

    Josh Marshall smells the Likud smearing of Obama in Russert’s Farrakhan fixation:

    the covert campaign to smear Obama with the Jewish community is a topic of great importance that I’ve been meaning to hit on and haven’t done enough on it yet. At least we know now that Russert’s enlisted with the cause.

  136. 136.

    Ninerdave

    Ever wonder what’s going through Clinton’s mind when Obama is paddling on in his last question?

  137. 137.

    p.a.

    This is all Abe Lincoln’s and Stephen A. Douglas’ fault. The press/media has been trying to reproduce those debates for 150 years. What they don’t seem to realize is that if Russert, Matthews or any other talking head had moderated those debates the way they do ours, there would have been nothing worth remembering or trying to emulate.
    Also, has there been any modern politician who can be described as erudite since, who? Stevenson?
    Almost forgot to blame, who was it, Theodore White? The hagiographer of the Kennedy-Nixon debates. His fault too.

  138. 138.

    Mary

    Whoa. Hillary is basically conceding. She sounds so defeated.

    No smartassery here. If there’s anything genuine left between her and Bill any more, I hope he’s there for her tonight, because I think this is the night she finally saw it all slip away from her.

  142. 142.

    myiq2xu

    Ever wonder what’s going through Clinton’s mind when Obama is paddling on in his last question?

    Where the hell is Bill and what’s he up to?

  144. 144.

    4tehlulz

    Russert: A second cousin of your wife once bought a bean pie from the Nation of Islam; does this mean you want to kill all the Jews?

  145. 145.

    myiq2xu

    The press/media has been trying to reproduce those debates for 150 years. What they don’t seem to realize is that if Russert, Matthews or any other talking head had moderated those debates the way they do ours, there would have been nothing worth remembering or trying to emulate.

    Russert wants to nail a candidate with a question like the one to Dukakis about if he would change his mind about the death penalty if his wife was raped and murdered.

    He isn’t trying to elict information from the candidates to help people decide who to vote for, he wants to ask a “gotcha” that will tank a whole campaign.

  146. 146.

    p.lukasiak

    Obama wins this one by default. Hillary was off her game tonight, and Obama was on his — and he did a good job of handling Russerts cheap shots.

    Funniest moment was that Hillary was abviously not sure of the name of Putin’s guy — and Obama couldn’t even come up with it after Russert pronouced it.

  147. 147.

    myiq2xu

    Funniest moment was that Hillary was abviously not sure of the name of Putin’s guy—and Obama couldn’t even come up with it after Russert pronouced it.

    I thought it was when she said “You ask a lot of hypotheticals” and he interrupted with “This is reality”
    and she spanked him with “No, it’s not.”

  149. 149.

    jake

    If you knew the terrorists had a killer robot would you build a REALLY BIG killer robot and order it to stomp the terrorists flat or would you build a bunch of tiny killer robots and order it to fly up the terrorists noses and scramble their brains?

    Tim Russert may be a useless media meat puppet, but he’s not alone.

  151. 151.

    Dug Jay

    Sen. Byrd Hospitalized After Fall

    WASHINGTON (AP) — A spokesman for Sen. Robert Byrd says the 90-year-old lawmaker is in the hospital after taking a fall at his home.Byrd, who is third in line to the presidency, was taken to Walter Reed Army Medical Center after complaining of back pain. He is staying there overnight for observation.His spokesman, Jesse Jacobs, says it’s not clear whether Byrd suffered any broken bones.

    John Cole is soliciting contributions to send flowers to the good Senator.

  152. 152.

    myiq2xu

    Obama wins this one by default. Hillary was off her game tonight, and Obama was on his—and he did a good job of handling Russerts cheap shots.

    I’ll agree with the first sentence of that.

    Neither candidate could shine with Timmeh’s fucked-up questions.

    “Fuck you Tim” probably wouldn’t go over well with most voters.

  153. 153.

    Cain

    So is there a video replay of this debate? I don’t think I’ve seen one yet. Damn west coast timings…

    cain

  155. 155.

    myiq2xu

    So is there a video replay of this debate? I don’t think I’ve seen one yet. Damn west coast timings…

    Just chug a pint of your favorite poison and count your blessings

  157. 157.

    Cain

    damn, there goes my stash of gin and tonic…

    at least I didn’t break out the long island ice teas. I really want to remember the night before.

    cain

  159. 159.

    myiq2xu

    Voltron as far as Old School is concerned.

    You call that old school?

    Try “Danger Will Robinson!”

  162. 162.

    Delia

    So is there a video replay of this debate? I don’t think I’ve seen one yet. Damn west coast timings…

    cain

    Count your blessings and watch Animal Planet or something.

  164. 164.

    Cain

    Time to start the Tim Russert questions:

    Hypothetically, if I grabbed my ankles and showed you the goods, would you still have voted for NAFTA?

    cain

  166. 166.

    Walker

    Ninerdave Says:
    You’ve got to be fucking kidding me:

    Be careful who you frag. Having eliminated all terrorism in the real world, the U.S. intelligence community is working to develop software that will detect violent extremists infiltrating World of Warcraft and other massive multiplayer games, according to a data-mining report from the Director of National Intelligence.

    The Reynard project will begin by profiling online gaming behavior, then potentially move on to its ultimate goal of “automatically detecting suspicious behavior and actions in the virtual world.”

    This is way too early in the thread, so there is probably no point in responding. However, I work in this area, so I just thought I would speak up on this. This is not what you think. They aren’t looking for violent in-game people.

    It is actually well-known that certain organizations have been using MMO economies (e.g. gold buying and selling) for money laundering purposes. That’s what they are trying to catch.

  167. 167.

    Cain

    Senator Clinton, you know I came from a blue collar household and unlike many blue collar workers I like to ask inane questions that have no bearing on a candidate’s viability, my question is: I have this bump on my penis and it’s angry red and it hurts, I’ve tried creams and gels and the like but I’m not able to keep down the swelling. Do you think I should see a doctor or perhaps I should just wait and let it go down by itself?

    cain

  168. 168.

    Clockwork Buddha

    Hypothetically, is it wrong to pay Al Qaeda to farm gold for me? I don’t want to support the terrorists, but I hate getting ganked by rouges and I needs the phat l00tz.

  169. 169.

    wasabi gasp

    I have this bump on my penis and it’s angry red and it hurts, I’ve tried creams and gels and the like but I’m not able to keep down the swelling. Do you think I should see a doctor or perhaps I should just wait and let it go down by itself?

    The point is moot

  171. 171.

    Conservatively Liberal

    Russert: “If Cuba and the Soviet Union invade the United States, and everything goes to hell, will you commit to supporting vigilante action within the first six hours of the invasion?”

    If anyone needs a radiator pissed in, just let me know. I will be glad to fill’er up.

  173. 173.

    DougJ

    Russert was truly awful. Williams and Matthews are awful too.

    Why can’t we have Bob Schieffer do them all? Not that I love the guy but he doesn’t embarrass himself.

  174. 174.

    Conservatively Liberal

    One nutjob on Hillaryis44.org is waaaaayyyyy out there:

    I’m silently praying Tim Russert chokes on a frog.

    actually, I hope Timmy chokes on Barack Obama’s nasty, grimy, baby cock. Right after Larry Sinclair, TEd Kennedy, John Kerry, and Oafrah WinFred :D ;)

    i really want to reach through my screen and slap obama and then pinch Russert’s OBESE FACE really really hard

    Obama is a FUCKING SON OF A BITCH LIAR. HE WILL BURN IN HELL WHEN HE DIES. Same with Russert, except Hell would be too nice of a sentence for this dinghole bitch-faced crook.

    PLEASE GOD. Do Americans a favor and kill off Tim Russert :) I wouldn’t mind either way whether he died quietly or violently :) But please, this man is a douche bag to the 100th degree and needs to be gone gone, bye-bye :)

    I don’t really mind not having Kerry as president. I think had he been president, the democrats would be in a bad position today.

    AS SOON AS BAMBI LOSES THIS YEAR, BE IT THE DEM NOMINATION OR THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, I BEGIN MY CAMPAIGN AGAINST HIM HERE IN CHICAGO. I WILL CANVASS EVERY DAMN CONDO IF I HAVE TO TO POINT OUT HOW CROOKED AND PATHETIC THIS ASSWIPE IS.

    I hope Obama chokes on coke during his sleep.

    This Hillary ‘supporter’ sounds like a spoof or a lunatic. Either way, the rest of the nutjobs are embracing this loony.

    Reading their debate thread is like watching mental patients discuss a football game that they are watching. It is unreal.

  175. 175.

    Cain

    He’d ask better questions if we had a sniper in the balcony with a rifle and scope pointing at his balls telling him that he’d shoot if he didn’t have a decent question.

    Maybe it’s time we went to war with the washington press. I’m sure they have weapons of mass disgust.

    cain

  176. 176.

    DougJ

    CL, there’s a disturbing amount of this in threads on liberal blogs these days. It’s like it’s contagious and the right-wing blogs are giving it to everybody. It needs to stop.

  177. 177.

    over it

    One nutjob on Hillaryis44.org

    Is there anything other than nutjobs at Hillaryis44.org?
    I have seen nuttin’ but nasty from that site.

  178. 178.

    myiq2xu

    This Hillary ‘supporter’ sounds like a spoof or a lunatic. Either way, the rest of the nutjobs are embracing this loony.

    Hey! I don’t make fun of you while you’re working!

  180. 180.

    myiq2xu

    The creepiest thing about that post is all the smiley faces.

    There are two or three commenters here (or one, and a couple sockpuppets) who have done about 20 similar posts.

    As I tried to point out earlier in this thread and in an earlier one, it’s not funny, it’s pathetic.

    I can go find unhinged Obots too, but what’s the point?

    We don’t know who these people are or the context of their posts. Are they serious or snarking? Are they trolls?

    For all we know the people posting those comments here also posted the originals under another alias over there.

  181. 181.

    PC

    For anyone not following (my wife kept it on Tivo (yes, I’m pathetic)) Clinton routed Obama in the first half, Obama wrecked Clinton in the second half.

    Either one would destroy the maverick.

  182. 182.

    Clockwork Buddha

    Either one would destroy the maverick.

    Unless Johnny storm in all crazy-strengthed from Double Jello Tuesday at the Home…

  183. 183.

    AnneLaurie

    Also, has there been any modern politician who can be described as erudite since, who? Stevenson?

    Since it’s mandatory whenever the late AS is mentioned:

    Stevenson supporter: “After tonight’s debate, Mr. Stevenson, surely every thinking American will vote for you!”

    Adlai S: “Unfortunately, Ma’am, that’s not nearly enough — you need a majority to win.”
    Also, I eighty-fifth the suggestion that Russert be forced off the airwaves and/or chocked on his own smarm, whichever is guaranteed to get him out of my universe forever. He and Chris Matthews are living evidence that TPTB have less respect for us than I do for the Ebola-infected cockroaches they so closely resemble.

  184. 184.

    Conservatively Liberal

    I am sure that there are O-bots that are obnoxious, but they seem more of the exception than the rule. You can stroll over to Hillaryis44 any time and the insanity is on tap, 24/7. Nonstop.

    Myiq, you would fit right in over there. ;)

  185. 185.

    cmoreNC

    t jasper parnell Says:

    Tim Russert is an ass.

    No he’s not! Russert is an ass-hat!

    What’s the difference, you might ask? Well, it’s sort of like the difference between “denounce” and “reject”. Except you’ve got a hat also thrown in somewhere.

  186. 186.

    Wilfred

    Imagine the reaction if Nixon had complained about getting the first question all the time or his opponent being treated with kid gloves. Hillary is a pussy – the terrorists would eat her alive.

    ‘Denounce and reject’ will come back to shit on McCain’t – wait till he’s asked about comments by the lunatic Christian preachers on Islam and Muslims.

  187. 187.

    zzyzx

    “Myiq, you would fit right in over there. ”

    No one who can form a complete sentence that doesn’t include Rezko in it would fit in there. I read the site for the same reason I read rr-bb.com; it’s a fascinating insight into a completely different world.

  188. 188.

    Cassidy

    “Fuck you Tim” probably wouldn’t go over well with most voters.

    A candidate saying this would probably clinch the nomination just out of sheer shock value and honesty.

  189. 189.

    jake

    We don’t know who these people are or the context of their posts. Are they serious or snarking? Are they trolls?

    Which is why “ZOMG, I’d NEVER vote for Candidate X, his supporters are sooo mean!” be some crazy shit.

    Unless you’re looking for an excuse to quit voting.

  190. 190.

    The Other Steve

    I don’t have MSNBC, didn’t watch the debate.

    Watched CNN this morning, and NPR in the car. (trust me, it’s difficult watching the radio while driving)

    The big take away from the debate…

    “Senator Clinton, her campaign at least, has constantly sent out negative attacks on us,” Obama said. “We haven’t whined about it.”

    I say… Well played, sir. Well played.

  192. 192.

    4tehlulz

    I think it is incredibly important that Democrats make hay out of this.

    Agreed. If more Democrats thank him for this, more Republicans will stay home in the general.

  193. 193.

    Zifnab

    Russert wants to nail a candidate with a question like the one to Dukakis about if he would change his mind about the death penalty if his wife was raped and murdered.

    He isn’t trying to elict information from the candidates to help people decide who to vote for, he wants to ask a “gotcha” that will tank a whole campaign.

    Next Question: “Mr Obama, would you like to ride in my mobile assault vehicle?”

    Yeah, it’s like watching a bad stand-up comedian try to get a cheap laugh. Modern journalism lacks talent. And the producers for these shows couldn’t find it with ten Edward R. Murrows tied to a pole.

  194. 194.

    Zifnab

    I think it is incredibly important that Democrats make hay out of this. I mean, they congratulate John McCain on being an honorable man trying to run an honorable campaign, so unlike previous ones.

    Haha. I can totally see the 527 ads now.

    “Thank you, John McCain, for standing up on dignity and respectability. You are truly an example for your party and your country, and we embrace you as an American Senator and an honorable Presidential Contender.”

    “This message paid for by Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, and George Soros.”

  195. 195.

    Punchy

    Unless Johnny storm in all crazy-strengthed from Double Jello Tuesday at the Home…

    /scratches chin

  197. 197.

    ThymeZone

    Cue don Meredith, this party’s over.

    If Obama’s the alternative, McCain’s support among independents drops from 52 percent to 36 percent.

    Im sure lukasiak will be here soon to run his shell game over the numbers and whine that it’s all Tim Russert’s fault.

    Please help the fat lady into her gown, she has a concert next Tuesday.

  198. 198.

    Clockwork Buddha

    Unless Johnny storm in all crazy-strengthed from Double Jello Tuesday at the Home…

    /scratches chin

    Is that a chin scratch in a “What the Pfargtl?” kinda way? Or just a generic pondering kinda way? Or a “they make a cream for that” kinda way?

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