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ORLY?

by John Cole|  March 10, 20087:27 pm| 42 Comments

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Buried in a story on CNN about the presence of a number of pharmaceuticals in our tap water is this little nugget:

A sex hormone was detected in the drinking water of San Francisco, California.

Hrmm. The LIEBERALS ARE SPREADING TEH GAY!.

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  1. 1.

    Conservatively Liberal

    March 10, 2008 at 7:31 pm

    I read somewhere awhile back that hormone levels in municipal drinking water may be affecting child development by bringing on puberty earlier. I would not be surprised to find that to be the case. We have literally been pissing in our drinking water for a long time, so this is just another form of recycling!

    ;)

  2. 2.

    libarbarian

    March 10, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    The LIEBERALS ARE SPREADING TEH GAY!.

    If they’re spreading it, who the hell is catching it?

    Oh yeah, conservative politicians.

    Reminds me of a quote from Blackadder III when Blackadder is filling out the “Member of Parliment Application Form” for Baldrick

    Blackadder: Criminal Record?
    Baldrick: None, whatsoever!
    Blackadder: Oh, you’re going to be an M.P. for God’s sake! I’ll just put down ‘fraud’ and ‘sexual deviancy’.

  3. 3.

    srv

    March 10, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    Haggard, Sen. Wide-Stance – they’re all canaries in the coal mine.

  4. 4.

    demkat620

    March 10, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    And we would have got away with it too, if not for you meddling kids!

  5. 5.

    myiq2xu

    March 10, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Considering the previous threads today:

    Q: How do you make a hormone?

    A: Don’t pay her.

  6. 6.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 10, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    I was on the phone with the general manager from our water distirct earlier today discussing this story. She said that this has been on the backburner for a while now, and that it’s going to open a whole new can of worms.

    As science gets better, testing gets better, but the big fights come over what should be tested for. She also assured me that our drinking water is unaffected because there is no wastewater upstream from the river we get our water from.

    I have now opened a beer.

  7. 7.

    Keith

    March 10, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I use reverse osmosis at home. I’ve always been under the assumption that short of distillation, it’s the purest water you can get. I’ve heard interviews this morning where (possible) experts say bottled water isn’t free n clear, but I would figure that hormone and pharmecutical molecules are too big to get through an RO filter. But then, I’m not an expert.

  8. 8.

    Pb

    March 10, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Heh. You should see what they’re doing to the fish. See also, xenoestrogens, notably Bisphenol A, and the enormous amounts of plastic out there that isn’t going away.

  9. 9.

    DougJ

    March 10, 2008 at 8:41 pm

    The war against gay hasn’t gone well in San Francisco. Particularly in the Castro triangle.

    It may be time to use the q-word here.

  10. 10.

    Birdzilla

    March 10, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    No wonder all those persons living in HANOI ON THE BAY are so ultimatly weird queer and out of their minds someones slipping strange stuff in their wacky water

  11. 11.

    AkaDad

    March 10, 2008 at 8:58 pm

    I hope this catches on here in Massachusetts, because I’ve always wanted to try out teh gay.

  12. 12.

    Dulcie

    March 10, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Wow, that was crazy even for you, Birdzilla!

  13. 13.

    tBone

    March 10, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    No wonder all those persons living in HANOI ON THE BAY are so ultimatly weird queer and out of their minds someones slipping strange stuff in their wacky water

    Pharmaceutical residues in drinking water can have all kinds of horrific effects. For instance, Birdzilla was hatched in a runoff ditch behind a Pfizer plant.

  14. 14.

    tBone

    March 10, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    I hope this catches on here in Massachusetts, because I’ve always wanted to try out teh gay.

    How can you be a Massachusetts resident and not have a least one gay marriage under your belt? I thought it was a state law, along with mandatory annual abortions.

  15. 15.

    AnneLaurie

    March 10, 2008 at 9:32 pm

    Anybody else flash on Torchwood and Jack Harkness’ little speech about “the taste of east-rogen in the rain”?

  16. 16.

    demimondian

    March 10, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Pharmaceutical residues in drinking water can have all kinds of horrific effects. For instance, Birdzilla was hatched in a runoff ditch behind a Pfizer plant.

    That’s a terrible thing to call Hillary — and to accuse her of hatching Bird is particularly low.

    Oh. Wait. You wrote “ditch”. Never mind.

  17. 17.

    jake

    March 10, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    A sex hormone was detected in the drinking water of San Francisco, California.

    Fuck the Gay Bomb, bitches! WR IN UR H2O, MAKIN U KW33R.

  18. 18.

    AkaDad

    March 10, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    How can you be a Massachusetts resident and not have a least one gay marriage under your belt?

    I’m a slacker.

    I thought it was a state law, along with mandatory annual abortions.

    That’s a misconception. We don’t mandate abortions, we just encourage them.

  19. 19.

    Asti

    March 10, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Wyrmwyd!

  20. 20.

    tBone

    March 10, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    That’s a terrible thing to call Hillary—and to accuse her of hatching Bird is particularly low.

    Despite my raging case of CDS, I do still consider Hillary to be mammalian.

  21. 21.

    demimondian

    March 10, 2008 at 10:00 pm

    I thought it was a state law, along with mandatory annual abortions.

    They prefer to refer to them as “examinations”, however.

  22. 22.

    Asti

    March 10, 2008 at 10:06 pm

    Who drinks water from the spigot these days anyway? Worst thing that could happen is you take a bath in something that makes your body hair fall out.

  23. 23.

    tBone

    March 10, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Who drinks water from the spigot these days anyway?

    Where do you think bottled water comes from?

    Once these pharmaceuticals get into the water cycle, it’s hard to avoid them.

  24. 24.

    Asti

    March 10, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Where do you think bottled water comes from?

    Have you ever heard of a spring?

  25. 25.

    demimondian

    March 10, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Have you ever heard of a spring?

    Yes, and so has tBone. I repeat…where do you think bottled water comes from?

  26. 26.

    Asti

    March 10, 2008 at 10:32 pm

    I drink Spring water, where does your water come from?

  27. 27.

    w vincentz

    March 10, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Brokeback reservoir.

  28. 28.

    demimondian

    March 10, 2008 at 10:39 pm

    My water comes from mountain springs…by way of my municipal water systems.

  29. 29.

    Asti

    March 10, 2008 at 10:44 pm

    My water comes from mountain springs…by way of my municipal water systems.

    Well, then it’s mislabeled.

    From Wiki:

    Bottled water manufacturers must ensure that their products meet the FDA established standard of identity for bottled water products.[9]. A bottled water product identified under a specific category, such as mineral water, spring water, artesian water, etc., must meet requirements established by the government or be considered misbranded.

    Code of Federal Regulations, Section 21, subsection 165.110 defines identity information for categories of bottled water:[10]

    drinking water – The lowest common denominator of potable water categories, meeting the basic EPA/FDA standards
    ground water – The name of water from a subsurface saturated zone that is under a pressure equal to or greater than atmospheric pressure.

    artesian water, also known as artesian well water – The name of water from a well tapping a confined aquifer in
    which the water level stands at some height above the top of the aquifer. (Water that will rise above the water table if tapped) Artesian water may be collected with the assistance of external force to enhance the natural underground pressure.

    How often is “artesian water” tested to meet these standards? The law says there is no mandatory testing, instead: “On request, plants shall demonstrate to appropriate regulatory officials that the water level stands at some height above the top of the aquifer.”[11]
    mineral water – The name of water containing not less than 250 parts per million (ppm) total dissolved solids (TDS), coming from a source tapped at one or more bore holes or springs, originating from a geologically and physically protected underground water source. Mineral water shall be distinguished from other types of water by its constant level and relative proportions of minerals and trace elements at the point of emergence from the source, due account being taken of the cycles of natural fluctuations. No minerals may be added to this water.
    purified water – The name of water that has been produced by distillation, deionization, reverse osmosis, or other suitable processes and that meets the definition of “purified water” in the United States Pharmacopeia, 23d Revision, January 1, 1995. Also may be called.
    Alternatively, the water may be called “deionized water” if the water has been processed by
    deionization, “distilled water” if it is produced by distillation, “reverse osmosis water” if the water has been processed by reverse osmosis, and “—— drinking water” with the blank being filled in with one of the defined terms.

    sparkling water – The name of water that, after treatment and possible replacement of carbon dioxide, contains the same amount of carbon dioxide from the source that it had at emergence from the source.

    spring water – The name of water derived from an underground formation from which water flows naturally to the surface of the earth.
    Spring water shall be collected only at the spring or through a bore hole tapping the underground formation feeding the spring. There shall be a natural force causing the water to flow to the surface through a natural orifice. The location of the spring shall be identified.

  30. 30.

    demimondian

    March 10, 2008 at 11:00 pm

    Um…you might want to go reread some of what you just posted. In fact, my municipal water is (a) harvested from mountain springs, just as I said, and (b) likely to be of significantly higher quality than the water you drink.

    For instance, in the case of Arrowhead…where is the spring? Do you know? Have you examined the area around it? Do you know how it comes to be in the bottling plant?

    Most bottled water is actually reprocessed municipal water.

  31. 31.

    ThymeZone

    March 10, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Arrowhead (Nestle) source webpage.

  32. 32.

    Asti

    March 10, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Um…you might want to go reread some of what you just posted. In fact, my municipal water is (a) harvested from mountain springs, just as I said, and (b) likely to be of significantly higher quality than the water you drink.

    For instance, in the case of Arrowhead…where is the spring? Do you know? Have you examined the area around it? Do you know how it comes to be in the bottling plant?

    Most bottled water is actually reprocessed municipal water.

    Did you even read what I posted? I’ll post it again. I repeat:

    spring water – The name of water derived from an underground formation from which water flows naturally to the surface of the earth.
    Spring water shall be collected only at the spring or through a bore hole tapping the underground formation feeding the spring. There shall be a natural force causing the water to flow to the surface through a natural orifice. The location of the spring shall be identified.

    Demi, you’re a putz sometimes. By the way, you keep saying “bottled water”, I said “spring water” you DO KNOW there is a difference?

  33. 33.

    ThymeZone

    March 10, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    likely to be of significantly higher quality than the water you drink.

    The water in your birdbath is probably better than my city water. Our city water is taken from a system of lakes and reservoirs that are used for bathing and boating, then the water is passed through special tanks that degrade its flavor and make it cloudy and disgusting. Finally, the water is taste tested by dogs who make sure that it tastes worse than the water that drips out of your exhaust pipe.

    I mean, the exhaust pipe on your car, not your personal one.

  34. 34.

    jake

    March 10, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Worst thing that could happen is you take a bath in something that makes your body hair fall out.

    Or you could wash in the aqueous emission provided by KBR.

  35. 35.

    Conservatively Liberal

    March 10, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    One local guy was selling water by the gallon, and he described the process used to purify the water on the jug label. Turned out that the process was the one that the city used to purify the city water, and the guy was just filling his tanker truck and jugs of it from his house.

    The brand name of it should have been a tip off: Water Tap Bottled Water

    Hey, at least he was being honest!

  36. 36.

    Asti

    March 10, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Well, granted, that may be the drinking water in Iraq, I thought we were discussing the drinking water in our locale?

  37. 37.

    Pb

    March 11, 2008 at 12:01 am

    I do enjoy drinking the spring water when I’m up in Maine, from Poland Springs. And we do it one better, by actually filling the jugs ourselves from the spring.

  38. 38.

    jake

    March 11, 2008 at 12:02 am

    I mean, the exhaust pipe on your car, not your personal one.

    For that, you have to get your water from the Hudson or the Anacostia.

    If the water from either of those unofficial dumps was solely used for bathing and boating people would freak out. “What is this stuff? Where’s the metallic tang? How come it doesn’t strip the enamel from my teeth? Why the hot water melt my sinuses?!”

    Thank the FSM for Brita filters say I!

  39. 39.

    myiq2xu

    March 11, 2008 at 12:19 am

    Who drinks water from the spigot these days anyway?

    Teh gayz.

    I hear they like a large, throbbing spigot.

  40. 40.

    Asti

    March 11, 2008 at 1:18 am

    I hear they like a large, throbbing spigot.

    That ain’t no spigot, that’s a shaft. Spigots pump out water.

  41. 41.

    tBone

    March 11, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Demi, you’re a putz sometimes. By the way, you keep saying “bottled water”, I said “spring water” you DO KNOW there is a difference?

    You’re right, different kinds of bottled water have different kinds of labeling requirements.

    However, I think demi’s point was that there is no real benefit to drinking “spring water” over tap water. In fact, bottled water (whatever the source) doesn’t have to meet the same purity requirements as municipal tap water, although it may be more aesthetically pleasing. There are also significant environmental costs involved in the packing and shipping of bottled water.

    As for the original point of discussion – once pharmaceuticals make their way into the hydrologic cycle, they spread everywhere – including into aquifers. Drinking spring water is no guarantee that you’re not being exposed to them.

  42. 42.

    HyperIon

    March 11, 2008 at 11:48 am

    modern analytical instrumentation allows determination of many compounds at very low concentrations (ppt even). this is not news. these compounds have been in the water for years and have been detectable for years. none are at “actionable” levels, as set by EPA and other “regulatory” agencies. they reflect what we have been doing to the water supply….effectively pissing in it as someone wrote upthread.

    but doing something about this is not easy…another fine mess we’ve gotten ourselves into (over the past 60 years or so).

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