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shera
I think this should really be the “BSG Season 4 Premiere Anticipation Thread,” but it’s your blog.
AkaDad
BSG. Bad show, or worst show ever? Discuss.
paradox
Is it television? I have not the faintest clue as to what he means. I dont’ watch much teevee, if that’s it. I am watching the A’s tonight, of course.
Dennis - SGMM
Seems like one of those shows that you have to watch from the very beginning. When I was a habitué of another blog there were several BSG fans there. I finally broke down and watched the thing and I couldn’t make head or tail of it. Inasmuch as I don’t have the patience to sit through seasons 1-3 I’ll have to pass on season 4.
paradox
Google es mi amigo. Of course, Battle Star Galactica, the militaristic okay-writing attractive-people science fiction television.
I watched a portion of Star Trek Next Generation once; the beauty and remarkable curvaciousness of the females in those fascinating tight body suits, mm, now I remember.
It was all right, but…it was television. Text was waiting somewhere, please excuse me. Please don’t think I’m haughty or that I think less of those who watch television, har, from this guy? Ah, no. I just don’t watch much teevee.
Derek
We don’t have cable, but we buy and watch a lot of DVD’s. We own season one on DVD, and we were QUITE put out when season two of BSG came out as “Season 2.0” and “Season 2.5.” Lame.
So we watched the second season off the Netflix, but we never did get the third, and won’t till it’s on Netflix as well. We’re always about a year and a half behind the times.
The last show we regularly watched while it was being broadcast was THE WEST WING. Once that went off the air, we were finished with TeeVee. ALthough the last few seasons of that weren’t the best, it was the pinnacle of Television, in our opinion.
jake
I’ll start stocking up on the drinks and hankies for when the season ends.
I watched the very first episode and for whatever reason I couldn’t be arsed to watch the second. But I’m always glad when producers end a series because the story has come to a natural closing, rather than draw things out until the ratings tank. It was sad watching the X-Files crawl on and on and on until I wanted to give the whole thing a Kervorkian Cocktail.
John Cole
Season 5 of Angel.
Dennis - SGMM
I’m old enough to remember the show-ending episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Classiest exit evar!
IanY77
Bingo. Can’t believe they have an X-Files movie coming out again. Way to strike while the iron’s hot, guys.
And I cannot frakkin’ wait for BSG tonight.
jake
[eye roll] I thought those were wishful geek rumors, but lo and behold, IMDb says it is true and the expected release date is … July 2008.
Yeah. Sure. Good luck resurrecting that corpse in time.
If Chris Carter wants to waste millions of dollars I wish he would just send it to me.
Dennis - SGMM
Aw, c’mon, this is the same Hollywood that unashamedly picked the bones of “The Beverly Hillbillies,” “The Dukes of Hazzard,” and “Starsky and Hutch.” I’m waiting for them to announce “Good Times: the Movie.” Dyn o mite!
BJ
What the hell do you mean “Season 5 of Angel”? I rather thought that was their best season, and “Smile Time” rates easily as the favourite epsiode.
Mary
A recap for those of us joining late.
Phoebe
No, they’re all open threads.
So here:
bronx teens on obama speech [more perfect union]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9IldaegAB0
Krista
Awesome episode. Damn you Ron Moore, you bastard!
Ninerdave
Socialist.
D-Chance.
Will Mr Cole resume the Hillary posts tomorrow?
Rasmussen provides the source for what should be a fun weekend of “yeah, but what if…”s.
IanY77
Don’t blame you. I am nothing if not a wishful geek.
Desmond
Yeah, that’s highly recommended. It’s very serialized.
Paradox wrote:
BSG is really very different from “television”. For one thing, it’s on cable. For another, it treats its audience with much more respect than the average television show. And don’t think for one second that it’s like Star Trek, ANY Star Trek. The only thing BSG and Star Trek have in common is that the main setting is a spaceship. Other than that, they couldn’t be more different.
Scott H
I watched the premiere of the original Battlestar Galactica, on an Advent projection television against a movie screen, in a bar, drinking yards of beer. So, I have been kind of committed to BSG re-imagined. Luckily, BSG is, arguably, the best scripted show outside of HBO.
I recommend watching BSG sequentially. Not really an arc that one can jump into the middle and have any clue what is going on or why. The show is character driven, and, hallelujah, the good guys are more flawed, tragically misguided, unlikeable, and error prone than the bad guys – which would be the point of good drama. This is not Star Trek – which now looks just camp in comparison.
At least, SciFi Channel is letting the story arc play out, unlike what the (I hear recently canned) programming chief at HBO did to their best shows save The Wire, and BSG hasn’t been jerked senseless as TNT & then SciFi did with the Babylon 5 series and its spin-offs.
Agreed, a story should end when it is over. Nobody wants to remember Battlestar Galactica 1980. If you don’t know, don’t ask.
tBone
Except that a) that was their best season and b) the story hadn’t come to a natural close, which is why the last few episodes seemed so rushed and the ending felt so incomplete.
And Ron Moore and Michelle Forbes.
John Cole
I am not arguing season 5 of Angel was bad. The season with pregnant Charisma exploding the story line was bad.
I was referring to the following comment:
Season 5 was not how they wanted to end it. That does not mean it was bad, but it was not where he wanted to go with it.
LOLLOLOL
Excellent news for Hillary!!!
If you count FL MI and WA and throw out all the caucuses then Hillary is tied in the popular vote!! This is excellent news.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/4/194623/0323
MJ
Scott I agree, the last season of the original BSG was awful. I anticipated that the remake of BSG was going to be awful too. I was wrong it’s been a great show.
Anybody know why this season took so long to get on the air? The previous season ended about 16 months ago.
LiberalTarian
Killing Farscape before the story arc ended–now that was brutal.
They eventually came up with “The Peacekeeper Wars,” but the story was tepid at best, and the magic dissipated.
I’m really happy they didn’t do that to BSG.
Rick Taylor
D-Chance. Says:
The popular vote is a topic of discussion over at TL tonight. The general consensus seems to be it’s highly significant that Hillary is very nearly tied with Obama in the popular vote, when you exclude the four states that didn’t release popular vote totals because they held caucuses, include both Florida and Michigan, and assign Obama zero votes from Michigan as he wasn’t on the ballot. I don’t understand why they people would think this sort of information would have any influence on the super-delegates or anyone else.
Zuzu
I was so sick of the constant whining and complaining and basic screwed-up-edness of the Six Feet Under characters that I actually said “Thank God!” out loud when Nate died in the last season.
Then I cried my way through the last scene of the series finale.
SFU finale
Billy K
AkaDad, I hope you die soon; slowly…painfully.
LiberalTarian, Farscape sucked. Everyone figured this out eventually. That’s why its “send-off” was tepid at best.
BJ commenters are pissing me off tonight.
Pseudofool
Finally saw the premiere on scifi.com. Good stuff. I hate the “to be continued” business though, isn’t like every episode like that?
sal
Quit watching so much tv, you dopes.
You’ll spend about 25 years of your life asleep anyway. Why waste your other 50 years on crap?
The Moar You Know
That was, to put it nicely (as you seem to have some issues at the moment), a little over the line.
Michael D.
Hell, second half of Season ONE of Angel.
dbrown
(No spoiler’s)
BSG Season 4 Premiere: 25 minutes of solid storyline packed in 60 minutes of viewing time. The edge is gone – looks like they need ‘acts of God’ just to solve simple plot issues or create ‘excitment’ (More secret angel-like Cylons – please! ENOUGH already!)
That works in VERY limited doses (the #6 and her male counterpart were a fun twist and even edgy) but that shtick is getting old when it angels are always required to keep the primary story/plot going and solve ‘impossible’ situations all the time – just call in agents of God – bingo, problem solved and aren’t we so clever.
Clever is as clever does and that is missing in this episode.
jake
I’m going to guess the writers strike had something to do with it.
borehole
Sal, I’m gonna need photographic proof of you living life to its fullest–racing a Formula 1, working with Habitat for Humanity, what have you.
Otherwise, you’re just one more snob letting his preconceptions get in the way of appreciating the awesomeness of the Zoic FX team and Michael Hogan.
AkaDad
Would dying in a fire be acceptable? Or you could lock me in a room and force me to watch BSG, where I would most certainly die of boredom. :-)
JGabriel
borehole:
I’ve thought pretty highly of the Zoic team ever since Firefly, but they really did a fantastic job with the opening battle scene in BSG this week. Especially when you consider that the BSG SFX supervisor has been told to cut costs this season, to save up for the finale.
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Nicole
You know, the comic book series of “Angel” has been pretty good- it picks up where Season Five ended. I’ve never been a comic book reader, but the writing is very true to the characters. Likewise the Buffy series.
And good BSG season premiere!
Harley
Quickly. Angel Season Five was actually very very good. And as Nicole mentions, Season Six, comic book version, is pretty damn good. Almost makes you wish they’d had a shot to put it on the little screen.
It’s a good Whedon idea. Continue your narrative in another form.
over_educated
hey did you know Wil wheaton read this blog? he mentioned you on his blog a few days ago.
jnfr
The battle scenes in this episode were really excellent. I kept thinking JMS must be green with envy that he didn’t have that crew working on B5 (with that budget too, of course).
I just wish networks would stop frakking with various sci-fi series timing and episode arcs. B5, Angel, Firefly, well, nearly all SF series, have suffered from network interference.
Anyway, incredible episode last night. I’m very glad to have this back.
MJ
The writers strike may have added to the time it took to get season 4 on TV but it doesn’t explain all of it. At the end of season 3, I think it was around January 2007 they announced season 4 would start in January of this year.
tBone
I watch about 3 hours of TV a week. BSG is one of those hours.
This is a polite way of saying “go fuck yourself.”
Desmond
I hear you tBone. I watch(ed) about 3 television shows regularly; BSG, Lost, and The Wire, but now the Wire’s finished.
And I can’t think of anything better to do while BSG is on other than to not miss one of the best television shows ever.
Krista
Yeah, Michelle Forbes was awesome. I loved her character, so I’m glad that they made “Razor” to give her even more backstory and depth.
Yet another thing I love about BSG. The female characters on there aren’t secondary. Every last one of them is a total badass. Some are mostly good, some are mostly bad, and most are a complex mix of the two. For most actresses, roles like Admiral Cain come around once in a lifetime, if ever.
And borehole, glad to see the love for Michael Hogan. I think he’s been sorely underrated, but when you look back, he’s provided most of the really heartbreaking moments on the show.
Storytelling is a tradition as old as language, my friend. Even those whose lives have been full of accomplishment, adventure and accolades have appreciated the joy of spending an hour losing themselves in a well-written story. It’s one of life’s pleasures, as is sleep. Believe it or not, this comments section contains people who live very full, productive, and busy lives. And in the end, you’ll be rotting in the ground just like the rest of us. But while we chose to spend our leisure time enjoying a good story and good acting, you’ll have chosen to spend your leisure time being a judgemental douche.
JGabriel
Krista:
You know, I’m pretty sure most of us here can do both.
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capelza
Everything Krista said…
And people who give BSG a superficial glance, really, during the Bush Admin, with all the accompanying lack of balls from the media, politicans, etc on the war on terrah…a little show on SciFi..dared to do this…
Spoiler, sort of ~ When do people go from terrorist to freedom fighter..who are the bad guys, who are the good guys? Are the Cylons the bad guys (and my personal question, are they us?)…
Hey, I want to see the new X-Files movie…
But I miss Firefly most of all.
tBone
That’s kid stuff. I can simultaneously be a judgmental douche and a sanctimonious prick while watching TV and posting on this blog. Multi-tasking, bitches!
borehole
JGabriel (not that you’re still here), about halfway through season 2 I figured out what Zoic does that sets their stuff so far apart. The effects themselves aren’t that much more sophisticated than anybody else’s, but they treat a big CGI scene like a real film shoot. They’re not just randomly jerking the nonexistent “camera” around; watch a scene with a Viper doing a fly-by, and you’ll see the camera get blown sideways by the exhaust. I just caught the Sci-Fi marathon, and
DON’T READ THIS, COLE
when Six nukes Cloud Nine, a piece of debris flies right into the camera and breaks it. Making the “camera” subject to environmental stimuli seems like such an obvious tack to take, but man, everything else with spaceships just seems so static and crappy now.
Krista: “Not all of ’em.” Devastating line-read. I’ve heard that Hogan’s the entire writing staff’s favorite, not that I couldn’t have guessed.
Pseudofool
We’ll if you watch exclusively–any show–for plot or twists you’re bound to be dissapointed. BSG has always been character and theme driven, neither of which is hackish, simple, or predictable.
Krista
**SPOILER ALERT**
That scene made me bawl my eyes out. He’d been through more hell than anybody during that whole time, and yet, when the cheering started, he was just…invisible.
**END SPOILER ALERT***
I hope when BSG ends that Michael Hogan gets lots of nice, meaty roles sent his way. The man’s a treasure.
bago
At the very least I hope he finds out who jarked off in his frakkin coffee…