Anecdotal evidence that there will be no bounce for Hillary from her latest episode of kitchen sink chucking:
Little says he switched his party registration from Republican to Democrat so he could back Obama in the upcoming Pennsylvania primary on April 22. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s criticisms Sunday that Obama’s comments were “elitist and divisive” haven’t moved him.
“I don’t think he put his brain in gear before he engaged his mouth,” Little said. “But he apologized. … I think he has the right ideas, and I like hearing him talk. I put him in sort of the same mold as the Kennedys, JFK and Bobby.”
Little’s support for Obama puts him in the minority in heavily Republican York County — particularly in the small boroughs, such as Jacobus, which is about 50 miles northwest of Baltimore. People here, as resident Barbara Larson put it, “vote on the gun issue, and the pro-life issue.”
Still, in more than a dozen interviews here, even conservative Republicans couldn’t muster the sort of outrage over Obama’s remarks that Clinton backers were expressing Sunday. For example, Clinton partisan Stephen Reed, the mayor of nearby Harrisburg, said Obama’s remarks “lacked judgment. They lack understanding.”
Several McCain supporters here said the comments wouldn’t play well among rural Americans. But nearly everyone allowed that, in fact, many small-town residents are indeed bitter.
“Hell, yeah, they’re bitter,” said Harold Creager, a retired phone company technician who was sipping coffee in Rutter’s, a convenience store. “George Bush has been a disappointment. The economy. Jobs. Immigration — we’re being invaded.”
So, in case you are keeping score, yes, American voters are dumb enough to vote for Bush twice (and I include myself in that number, sadly). They are not, however, dumb enough to sit around and listen to an Ivy League educated lawyer who has spent all but two of the last 40 years living in a Governor’s mansion, the White House, and a NY mansion and who made 110 million over the past six years call someone else elitist.
In before he’s not a real Democrat and doesn’t count.
gods, i wish Obama would win PA and just end this thing. the shocked look on Hillary’s face would be priceless.
i know its not going to happen, for a minute or two i’ll pretend as though it could.
Here in the midwest people are angry and bitter. They are hurting and as Obama said, no one is hearing them. Or cares. And we see our money going to Iraq for Bushes cronies and his pie in sky ideas. We see congress getting rich off our backs by passing legislation that hurts us. The list is long.
We have been talking about the same thing obama did last week for a long time.
We also hate NAFTA. It is a symbol for all the pain we have been experiencing here.
The only fallout I see is in the media. They are playing molehill politics. They create an issue out of nothing while presuming to speak for us. They talk down like we are stupid and want pandering. No pundit knows crap about how we feel. They created this storm for their drama and we think they are raving idiots. Dancing gently around the problem is not going to solve it.
And the pandering by the Clintons shows how elitist and tone deaf they really are. Do they think we are buying their over reaching act this weekend?
To see an example, CNN has a poll about Obama’s comments. 3/4 say they are not insulted. And look at how Clinton was received last night when introduced and how Obama was received. That tells the story.
Just for the record, they are regularly dumb enough to sit around and listen to Halliburton CEOs, rich kids of oil families, and second or third or fourth generation multi-millionaire real estate dealers and casino lobbyists and Wall Street moogles and radio jokeys call someone else elitist. I flip on Limbaugh or Hannity or one of the other wingnut mouth organs and these richest of the rich regularly tell us all who the elitists in the country are.
I think Hillary’s “elitism” claims don’t fly because the only audience it would fly with has gone through twenty years of seething, frothing, blind-eyed CDS and wouldn’t listen to a word she said no matter what she was talking about.
This, combined with the fact that Obama is exactly right – many people in Pennsylvania and other blue-collar states are in fact rather bitter and pissed off – makes her attacks bounce right back against her.
About fucking time somewhat acknowleged the obvious. People ARE pissed off, bitter, angry, scared. I’m not sure WTF Clinton is trying to claim, but O-face was absolutely correct.
Still rob, that would be priceless to see. I hope he holds her to a single digit lead. If he does that, she is toast.
John, take it from us small town guys, bitter it is. Even those on the right who can be honest will grudgingly admit that he is right. I loved the ‘I am not bitter’ buttons the Clinton campaign tried pushing to their supporters. Even they were not enthused with the idea of pushing this as an insult.
One of the customers I was helping yesterday are a retired couple, very religious too. The husband asked me about Obama and his bitter statement (he knows I am a political nut), and I told him of the context it was delivered in and pointed him to a couple of web sites where he could get the whole quote and the context. The fact that this guy was checking out Obama tells me that even his wife and him are curious about him. They are very nice people, and are not happy with the direction of their party. He did not say that they were supporting Obama, but there was no negative discourse. When I explained the situation to him, he agreed that Obama was right about some people being bitter.
I think this latest attempted kneecapping is going to backfire on Hillary.
Also, the Clintonistas are calling in to C-SPAN’s Washington Journal and pretending they are Republicans who are voting for Hillary. It is blatant as hell, but pretty funny to listen too. My wife can spot them as fast as I can now…lol! Most are women, but I have heard a few men slip in too. They are easy as hell to spot due to the fact that though her supporters sound like wingnuts, they sure can’t play them very well.
So many posts this morning! Someone’s been drinking coffee and chasing his cat around today.
I don’t think I can take any more Hillary inanity. The Bush administration decides that the Fourth Amendment doesn’t apply to them, and we have to hear about bowling and guns from Annie Oakley.
Dennis - SGMM
The outcome in PA won’t matter to the Clinton campaign. Nor will the outcomes in the succeeding primaries. Clinton wants to be president to punish Bill, to put him in his place and rub his nose in it. Just like Bush wanted to be president to punish his father. It’s all about revenge. They’ll drag her kicking and screaming off of the podium.
true, but it would matter to the media. if she loses PA,(again, i know–AINT GONNA HAPPEN) then the fundraising dries up, superdelegates swarm in and endorse Obama, and the press stops pretending she has a shot.
her coverage would be reduced to Huckabee Level, kind of like “oh, and Hillary said something today. Anyway, back to Obama.”
but until then, she still gets equal parity in the coverage, which is f**ked up beyond belief.
I am bitter. But if you put a little carob on me, I am sweet. I don’t see what all this kerfuffle is about, really.
But cereally, here’s the thing about the old politics (the Rove style, now known as the Clinton style): The whole schtick depends on throwing your opponent into a panic and getting him tied up in your argument.
Obama doesn’t fall for the trick. He just keeps saying his pretty reasonable, sensible stuff and making his adversaries look like blithering idiots for trying to attack him. He doesn’t lower himself to their level.
That alone is enough reason for me for vote for him. And to give him latitude to occasionally say something that one would want to restate to get it right. And to have policy positions that don’t exactly match my own.
I’m looking forward to the McCain v Obama debates.
Don’t underestimate the dumbness of the American people.
The dumbest person I know is my sister in law’s father. He votes only on one issue-guns. He will always vote republican because “the democrats will take my guns away”. The man is socially liberal and believes in a live and let live philosophy yet cares only about one thing. The economy can go to hell, the country can go to hell, but he needs his guns. According to my sis-in-law a lot of rural Pennsylvanians (democrats and republicans) think like this. There is a reason why the country is the way it is today, a reason why Karl Rove’s strategies work. Its the people stupid!
Fear not. We have a secret weapon this year. It’s called turnout. The dumb voters will simply be outvoted.
Unfortunately, I don’t think the problem is just Hillary. I blame the media. Or, if the media companies are correct in their apparent belief that the market demands this, the public.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard. — H. L. Mencken
I really should see Network some day. From what I’ve read, it looks really interesting. Even though it was released six years before I was born, I can’t imagine it being more relevant then than it is today.
Loviatar sock puppeting for "F"
I was questioned previously on why I always link you and Sullivan when I complain about your Hillary Clinton posts, I think this weekends rampage answers that question.
Also as far as my checking-in and reading, you’ve sunk to Sullivan level (check in rarely and skip everything headlined Clinton). It may not matter much and you’ll continue to have your ditto heads and I’ll still occasionally check-in, but you’ve lost one reliable reader this weekend.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
Hey Hey! My Obama gear arrived. I bought a long-sleeved tee and two rally signs for my office window (gotta represent in ChiTown).
I will be up to $112 donated when I send in my $25 pledge this week (I accidentally picked up the phone and couldn’t say no to the Obama caller).
All $112 has come since “The Pig in the Pantsuit” said that she and McCain had crossed the CinC threshold while Obama had only given a speech.
I hope you’re right, but an Adlai Stevenson quote comes to mind.
The Other Steve
Thus far everybody I’ve seen harping on about this Obama statement has come from California or New York.
It’s amazing the number of elite pundits who think they can speak for middle America.
The sad tale of David Brooks.
Jim Webb, 2006.
fuck you, Hillary,
Hillary has overplayed this so badly. I mean, she’s still trying to win the Democratic primary, not the general, and you’re not going to do that while bashing Al Gore and sharing talking points with Grover Norquist. She should count herself lucky if there’s not a serious backlash. The Annie Oakley thing makes her look like a sad joke.
Rasmussen’s tracking poll shows a 5 point movement in favor of Obama today. It’s not sensible to get wrapped up in the day-to-day noise of tracking polls, but that’s as big a one-day change as it’s shown in a while.
How can I not keep score? This is the ‘news’ that runs nonstop while the President and his minions sit around the bar ordering up torture a la carte. When are the war crimes trials. All else is hooey at this point.
I still can’t believe Hillary dissed Gore at the Jesus Forum thing. He already hates her. That was just really stupid.
The Grand Panjandrum
He has many strengths (charisma, intellect, and campaign orgazining, etc) but his ability to turn supposed lemons into lemonade might the single strength that puts him over the top and win the election. He is not afraid of losing to Clinton or McCain. That adds a dimension to his campaign that is as refreshing as … a glass of lemonade in July.
Ol’ Annie Oakley never had a chance to get her six-shooter out and stave off the stampede. The Tuzla Tigress is about to be trampled.
Loved him, went out with my parents when they registered voters in ’56 while working for the Young Democrats club here. Saw Stevenson at the 1960 convention.
But anyway, the dynamics this year are different. I think it’s a realignment year, and the old assumptions are going to be out the window. Much to the chagrin, first of Clinton, and then of McCain.
Shorter John Cole’s blockquote:
Everyone but the Clinton partisan (a politician, btw) agrees, Obama is right.
You are absolutely right! I should have known better the past few days when I channeled my inner Rush Limbaugh and spent the entire week-end attempting to portray the Democratic front-runner as divisive, elitist, out of touch, and a snob while promoting right-wing narratives about the middle class and embracing the shitty techniques the GOP has used to divide the electorate on wedge issues.
Oh, wait. That wasn’t me who did that. What are you mad at me for?
Seriously, if you all do not understand how destructive and how poisonous Hillary’s bullshit the past few days is and the long-term damage it does, then you are dumber than me, a two-time Bush voter. It really is that simple.
I’m guessing you’re responding to a spoof, JC. “F” is the reason I had to change my party affiliation. “F” had decided s/he didn’t want me to be a Democrat any more. It was kind of sad, but how can you argue with “F”?
Concern troll is concerned.
Ohhh I hope so. I don’t trust anectdotal evidence, but it would be wonderful if this sort of attack was ineffective or even backfired for once. Pennsylvania’s coming soon, so maybe that will tell us one way or another.
Speaking to a progressive audience that believes the state should be the source of everything, Obama diagnosed small town America with terminal clinginess in an effort to explain away their infatuation with God and guns, as well as their discomfort with multiculturalism.
Of course! How else could one explain this widespread neediness and craving for protection but through the failure of the state to provide. These insidious ailments– God and Guns– are simply the result of emotional imbalance.
Thank Mother Earth for Dr. Obama.
A Different JC
Silver lining. I keep looking for the silver lining in Hillary’s continued presence in the primary. From my blog: One benefit I came up with is based on the campaign finance limits. Each individual donor can give up to $2300 to each candidate. However, as far as I can tell, $2300 can be given for the primary and another $2300 for the general. Hence why Hillary’s fundraising numbers are deceptively high: most of her new money is coming from old donors who’ve maxed out for the primaries. She’s in debt and can’t spend her new money except in the general (which she won’t get). Obama on the other hand is still raking in dough for primaries from millions of small donations of new donors.
So the silver lining is that since Hillary is forcing Obama to go state-to-state in the primary battles, and since Obama would have to do this *anyway* during the general election, he gets to double-dip! He gets to use primary money on what is functionally a general election enterprise. Tah-dah!
Oh great, another elitist MUPpet insulting middle America. There goes the porcine vote.
“If I’ve lost
CronkiteCandy Crowley,” replied President JohnsonBarack Obama, “I’ve lost middle America.”
The BJ MUPketeers can’t be happy about this poll. It shows MUP done by 20% in PA. I’d call that a bounce.
now that hurts.
People aren’t bitter. Those are just Obama plants making you think people are angry and bitter. Hillary wants you to
pull yourselves up from your bootstraps“roll up your sleeves” and be resilient.
MJ, meet RH Potfry and his hysterical “conservative satire” blog. Y’all should get along great!
I put as much faith in that ARG poll as I do this Zogby poll.
Oh, so Obama plagiarized Jim Webb?
This is even worse news for Democrats.
Oh come on John, is this the face of an elitist?
MJ cites an ARG poll. That outfit has a terrible track record and was showing a tie last week. MJ must be another low-info Hillary supporter.
Hey John, if Dan Rooney makes an endorsement, doesn’t that mean “Game Over”?
Jen! Are you a fan? I know we have many fans who are closeted conservatives…
Uh oh. Suddenly, polls dont matter when they go against one’s candy. But they mattered when everyone was trying to show how Obama would fare better against McCane.
Consistency’s a bitch, aint it?
You don’t understand satire very well, do you?
ARG polls never matter, dipshit.
I swear to the heavens, I was going to call the damned cable company today and cut back to basic, and now this.
Dammit. Where’s my commenter Amazon tip jar.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me a third time … er … I pity da fool!
C’mon John, you know the remaining Republican voters (all 12 of them) will lap up the talk of elitist egg heads when McCain starts spewing it.
I am with Punchy- you don’t get to say polls count one day and they don’t the next day. I really don’t know what to think about most polls, and don’t want to delve into their methodologies, so I generally do not cite them unless there is a clear trend across a variety of different polling companies.
The ARG poll could be an outlier, or it could be a bad sign for Obama, but you don’t just get to dismiss it if you have been relying on them in the past. Personally, the only poll that matters is in a few weeks when people vote. If Hillary doesn’t win by 15-20%, all the hand-wringing is pointless.
The Other Steve
Meanwhile back at the ranch
BTD points to a TAPPED article and this choice quote from Bill Clinton’s book.
Oh dear. What does BTD have to say?
Well it’s time to move on. There’s no need to talk about this any more.
LOL! Frankly, I think this is a debate we ought to be having, right now, right here. Come on BTD, why you so scared?
At the horse track, polls are called “tip sheets.”
You can buy them at the gate on the way in, or pick them up off the ground for free a short time later.
Hmm. I seem to have mislinked. Distracted by sniper fire, and a little buzzed from the Crown Royal, sorry.
Duck, run, and try again.
Jen! Are you a fan?
You don’t understand satire very well, do you?
Hmmm…apparently just a tad better than you, darlin’.
A Different JC
A good place to calibrate polls (as many here I’m sure know) is the Real Clear Politics page. If and when they use ARG, for some reason they have an asterisk by the name (I don’t know why, but RCP doesn’t use ARG for it’s RCP Average). As far as I remember, Survey USA has had the best track record for polling during the big-state primaries and they had Clinton up by 18 pts last week. We should wait for their post-Bitter poll to judge whether Hillary got a bounce.
SUSA and Rasmussen have been the best polling outfits this cycle. If you’re gonna look at any polls, I would recommend those two.
Exactly. The Republicans, aided by the media, will be able to do a lot with the “elitist” charge, just as they did with Gore and Kerry. But the audience for that smear is mostly people who won’t listen to a Clinton, so her embrace of Rovism isn’t getting her very far. You can’t run a Republican campaign for the Democratic nomination, as Lieberman found out.
Polls that have been accurate get more weight than those that haven’t, like ARG. And any poll that shows a 20-point swing in a single week is immediately suspect. You can’t just lump them all together as “polls” and say that if you accept one you have to accept them all. Nobody who’s been following polls thinks ARG is reliable this cycle. That’s why you didn’t see me touting them last week when they showed a tie. QPac and Survey USA have been much better. Even BTD thinks ARG is crap.
538 suggests these Clinton-aided flareups are hurting both Dems.
shocking, i know.
Eh. Tis true, ARG has sucked, as many have consistently noted:
Dennis - SGMM
Ditto heads? Fuck you, you’re obviously in the wrong place anyway. “Don’t let the door hit you…”
Hm, I wouldn’t if I were you, and the “b-quote” button is for blockquotes so it doesn’t look like you’re talking to yourself.
If you’re a liberal pretending to be a conservative who does conservative satire focused almost entirely on Canadian wingnuts and used cars, yeah, I don’t have time for that. Good luck and all though.
I don’t trust ARG in general, but that doesn’t mean that I’m not worried. I get worried every time one of these throw everything at Obama and maybe something will stick attacks happen. I just want Obama to lower the gap. If he can keep that down and then blow her away in NC, then it will be over, but until then, I always worry.
i doubt it. the same day he gets NC, she’ll get IN.
wingnuts to iraq
i love how the guy they quote in the article says EXACTLY what open does, that the Republican’s in rural PA vote on Guns and Abortion.
wingnuts to iraq
err., i mean “Obama”, not “open”. What a weird typo.
The Other Steve
Well Obama just received the coveted Pittsburgh Steelers endorsement
Tunch and I are on bad terms right now. Yesterday I put clean sheets and a clean comforter on the bed at around 7pm. After John Adams west coast run on HBO, I jumped into bed, excited about my clean sheets, and jumped firmly into a freshly hosed bed.
The bastard must not have pissed all day long it was so soaked. I have no idea why he did this, and I know he does not have a urinary tract infection, because we were just at the vets the other day.
I may have to throw the god damned mattress out.
Damn. The Other Steve was first.
MSNBC tv is running a video loop of HRC at a campaign appearance this morning … where she is beeing booed for bringing up the Obama “bitter” remark.
Too new, probably, to be on the website yet, but I am looking for it.
I know how you feel John. I live in NY State, so I voted for each Clinton twice.
…and then I woke up in January seeing Hillary “debate’, which for her means, lie and distort, and I wondered what did I ever get from backing The Clinton’s except this sick feeling that even if other people are worse or as bad as they are, The Clinton’s are self-serving, morality-sapping, liars.
I wish they would take their 100’s of millions and go live with the kind of wealthy people they love to serve.
Here is the disgusting bitch making the speech this morning, and being groaned at by the audience.
Then, watch the Obama follow. Compare and contrast, indeed.
IN won’t be enough IMO. I think Obama keeps it close and if he can regain the losses in popular vote (what a stupid metric) and delegates from PA in NC, there’s just not enough elections left for Clinton to pick up the gap.
I wish I could view NBC videos at work to watch that. Someone needs to put that on you tube.
but, she’s known that for a long time. she’s going to continue clawing at Obama the way she has been, hoping he’ll trip and hurt himself. you know, the same thing she’s been doing for the past two months.
Clearly, Tunch hates America.
There is really no reason to call her a bitch and injecting sexism into this already tedious race. Just call her an asshole.
MSNBC again running the story from this morning, at length now, theme is Clinton has overplayed the thing, the audience wants to hear about jobs and economy, not the attack stuff.
Clinton looks VERY bad in this segment.
Lovely, she goes immediately from talking about how we need to be focusing on issues and what really matters, to complaining about Obama “attacking” her, to attacking Obama by focusing on something that has nothing to do with issues and doesn’t matter.
i like how Hillary, who served, for six years, on the board of a company known for pushing manufacturing overseas and decimating Main Streets all across America, has the gall to say she’s in touch with the working class, that she’s all about helping the little guy.
what a crock
I saw the clip of the audience’s reaction to her comments this morning — not exactly boos, but a bunch of “no”s and a lot of groaning — and have to agree.
This is the end of this dumb line of attack. If she brings it up again at another event, they’ll likely storm the stage. Even if she doesn’t, now she’s the one who looks out of touch.
Re: the christening of the mattress, sounds like someone due for a rechristening to “Steely McBeam.”
I agree about “bitch”. Using it accomplishes nothing but giving ammunition to the people complaining about the “boiz” trying to keep a good woman down because of their sexism. No doubt people opposed to Margaret Thatcher and Elizabeth Dole were also just a bunch of sexist yahoos.
Thank you for linking to the video. I had no idea that Hillary was the Official NRA candidate.
I just can’t wait until Chelsea is old enough to be president. The daughter of two pathological liars, a person who already sucks up to the wealthy and has no values, Chelsea Clinton is perfect to carry on The Clinton’s Name.
Who needs an Out House in their Living Room? America has The Clinton’s.
Maybe Hillary will name Juanita Broderick her running mate to show she can REALLY reach across the aisle.
Does Tunch like going to the vet?
Yep. This is the last time we’ll hear her take this line of attack. She’s lucky they didn’t rush the stage.
she looks tired, and that haircut sucks.
i like how she almost promises to bring “Universal haircare” to Americans.
i’m not sure the groaning isn’t aimed at Obama, though.
No, the groaning is aimed at her.
She said “I’m sure you all are disappointed at his comments” and they immediately respond with “No, no” in a dismissive way.
Watched it about 2 years ago for the first time, and I was astounded not only at its relevance but its prescience. Well worth your time.
And for JC: If he’s not sick, Tunch is pissed at you about something, perhaps caffeinated chase scenes, and he’s taking it out on you in one of the few ways he can.
It’s about Obama pulling the rug out from under the republican election strategy. They’ve been courting the bitters for years.
There’s nothing wrong with her bringing up what Obama said. The problem is that they let anyone into these meetings, this one was probably filled with deadbeat Obamaniacs. If only there was a way to make sure that only Clinton voters would attend…
…Got it! If they could make the audience sign some sort of agreement, to show that they are loyal to Clinton. Some sort of oath? That would surely stop these things from happening.
b. hussein canuckistani
We used to have a cat that would deliberately cough up hairballs on books, furniture and even children’s homework. When she started scratching and biting babies, that was the final straw, and she was given to friends.
Some cats are just bad.
b. hussein canuckistani
d’oh, wrong thread
You fail bhc. You should have let that comment stand on its own and see if someone tried to respond to it.
You fail bhc. You should have let that comment stand on its own and see if someone tried to respond to it.
Yeah, I was trying to figure out the Hillary-cat metaphor.
Is this MSNBC video stuff online? Did I miss the link? I can’t seem to find it on the website.
Oh, duh. It appears to be frontpaged. Nevah mind.
“Network” is a must see. 32 years old and still just as relevant today as it was then.
The Jensen/Beale boardroom scene is fabulous.
You’re wrong about that. But I think that may be true about Tunch. Some of you folks need a score card as to not confuse the Clinton trolls from the right wing trolls.
Regarding that poll I sited. I agree with what John said, it really is hard to know at this point if it is accurate or not.
Nice Clinton metaphore.
Did Hillary really cough up a furball?
I saw the boos in PittsB. Gosh, she looks old.
Still no response to the invite to go club some harp seal pups, don’t know why since she hates those little quacky critters. If she seings a baseball bat like she does a 12 guage, those cute white babies don’t stand a chance.
On the other hand, if her schedule is full, maybe she and Johnny McSame need to go to Europe again and do shots of vodka again. I’ve heard she drank him under the table. Anything to get away from Bill for a while.
To continue the rant, Barack should put a few commercials together that show unemployed steel workers on their way to church. Follow up with a prayer session involving disabled Iraq vets at Walter Reed.
Is Hillary offering universal health care or hair care in that clip TZ? Now universal hair care sounds like something elitists would offer, right? ;) Jeez, she looks wiped out in that clip. Maybe she is doing too many straight shots while hanging out with “real men”, and someone slipped her a mickey. She needs to go home and get some sleep.
Contrasting the Obama clip and her clip, it is clear that she struck out big with this crowd. Could it be that his ‘bitter’ remark is reflected in the manufacturing segment that this crowd represents?
Gee, I wonder…
If I had hair, I would be strongly in favor of universal haircare for Americans.
I will settle for scalp treatment rebates.
He must be bitter about being chased around all day by a latte-drinking academic elitist.
That’s the first time I’ve ever heard of anyone training a cat to think that a mattress is Hillary Clinton.
Give that kitty a sardine!
The Clintons are UnAmerican
Trickary “Sniper Fire” Clinton is trying to keep the heat off of her for her Bosnia lies. Lies that came out of her mouth about 5 times on the campaign trail. She will say and do anything for a vote.
It’s so disgusting how she twisted the man’s words. Even in his tone, when he talked about “clinging to guns and religon, etc. to frustration” you can tell that he was sorrowful for them.
Obama is the real people’s president!