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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2008 / More Of This, Please

More Of This, Please

by John Cole|  April 15, 200812:32 pm| 49 Comments

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Via Yglesias:

Ouch.

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  1. 1.

    ThymeZone

    April 15, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    John, you sound bitter.

  2. 2.

    TheFountainHead

    April 15, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    As they say in my neck of the woods: Pwned.

  3. 3.

    DougJ

    April 15, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    This is bad news for Democrats.

  4. 4.

    Rick Taylor

    April 15, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    *Waits to see if the pundits rush to McCain’s defense against these out-of-context quotes and clips by the evil 527 group*

  5. 5.

    jake

    April 15, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Monkey see. Monkey do. Monkey catapult propoganda, just like you.

  6. 6.

    DougJ

    April 15, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    And the IRS makes a move to rein these ads in on this very day. Coincidence? Don’t worry, though — the DOJ will be in charge of prosecutions:

    And although the IRS is likely to just revoke a group’s tax status and slap it with a fine, another source within the IRS said that serious violators could “go through our criminal investigations area … and it could end up at the Justice Department.”

  7. 7.

    Bernie

    April 15, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    This ad is a good start but I want to see more attacks on his bullshit “maverick” and “straight talk” reputations as well as pointing out he has a 10 year olds (instead of Bush’s 5 year old) understanding of foreign policy.

  8. 8.

    Cassidy

    April 15, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Monkey catapult propoganda fling shit

    Fixed.

  9. 9.

    Svensker

    April 15, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    What are they talking about? What recession? Fox News told me it was just a liberal media plot to make Bush look bad. That’s what I told the guy at the gas station when he demanded $40 to fill the tank. The family down the street that can’t sell their house? Delusional — it actually sold months ago for more than they’re asking, but the realtor FORGOT to tell them because the realtors all hate Bush. Dropping dollar and soaring food prices? If you squinch your eyes real hard none of that is really happening.

    Pfft. What is wrong with you torture loving elitist craptards?

  10. 10.

    Ninerdave

    April 15, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Nice.

  11. 11.

    johninpt

    April 15, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Sweet!

  12. 12.

    Svensker

    April 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Pfft. What is wrong with you torture loving HATING elitist craptards?

    Snap.

  13. 13.

    Dennis - SGMM

    April 15, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    When Bush and McCain say “we aren’t heading for a recession,” they mean it. People like them haven’t a thing to worry about. The rest of us, on the other hand…

  14. 14.

    AkaDad

    April 15, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    To be fair to McCain, it really does take a maverick to call your wife the c-word in public.

  15. 15.

    The Other Steve

    April 15, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    I agree with Yglesias… They need to start attacking McCain on national security.

    The Republican view of national security is pretty fucked up, and is outside of what used to be the mainstream view that got us through the cold war.

    It’s so very different even from Reagan. It’s so sad that they claim Reagan as their Saint.

  16. 16.

    jake

    April 15, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Waits to see if the pundits rush to McCain’s defense against these out-of-context quotes and clips by the evil 527 group

    Don’t forget the accusations of ageism for ending this horrible smear job with “The Same Old Politics.”

    Why do Democrats hate old people!?

  17. 17.

    Tsulagi

    April 15, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    That photo of McCain expressing his obvious unashamed man love for his younger Decider in public is a classic. His complete look of contentment says it all. Pretty much like the photo of Morans Guy being the classic poster boy for the Pub base.

    Dems should run that photo every chance they get, and tag it at the top with “McCain—100 More Years.”

  18. 18.

    Jen

    April 15, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    it really does take a maverick to call your wife the c-word in public.

    That’s funny. Can I crib it shamelessly?

  19. 19.

    Grand Moff Texan

    April 15, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    John McDiaper isn’t going to be the next president. It’s even too stupid for teh stoopids.
    .

  20. 20.

    AkaDad

    April 15, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    That’s funny. Can I crib it shamelessly?

    Hell yes, but it’s only because you’re shameless.

  21. 21.

    Delia

    April 15, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    And speaking of the recession depression, another fine ex-Republican who saw the light has a new book out. Kevin Phillips and it’s called Bad Money. Heard about it on NPR this morning. Apparently when dominant powers get to the point where they’re not producing stuff; they’re producing schemes to make money, they’ve jumped the shark. (See Great Britain, the Dutch Republic.) Our best course now is to gracefully let go of dreams of empire and converting the world to whatever, and become second-rate and happy. Any bets on that happening?

  22. 22.

    srv

    April 15, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    John/Tim,

    FYI, some of the best commentors on the interons at the old Intel-dump are probably not going to make the same effort at the new WaPo version. They’re already having run-ins with the hordes there (one already banned).

    The old crowd has settled here for now.

  23. 23.

    jake

    April 15, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Dems should run that photo every chance they get, and tag it at the top with “McCain—100 More Years.”

    100? He’ll be lucky if he has 30.

    [rimshot]

  24. 24.

    Susan Kitchens

    April 15, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Love the on the one hand on the other hand.

    But it’s still going to be a tough, tough race. Because the press love love love McCain. An example of terms forever tied to the candidates

    “Bitter” and “cling” will forever be tied to Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) in the same way that “Tuzla” and “the laugh” will always evoke Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) when a political junkie thinks of the 2008 Democratic race.

    And what negative words and phrases will “forever be tied” to John McCain from the GOP race, or from the general election?

    Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot. Nothing negative will cling to him. Ever.

  25. 25.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 15, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot. Nothing negative will cling to him. Ever.

    The few grand McCain spent covering bar tabs and buying shrimp for the boys on the bus in 2000 bids fair to have an ROI dwarfing even Peter Minuit’s $24 Manhattan real estate bargain.

  26. 26.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 15, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    On further research, it appears than McSame no longer even buys the press donuts, they buy donuts for him.

  27. 27.

    Jen

    April 15, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    it’s only because you’re shameless.

    Was it that clue trees reproducing through clue pollen thing? Cause, yeah, I adapted that from somewhere.

  28. 28.

    cleek

    April 15, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    McSame no longer even buys the press donuts, they buy donuts for him.

    but i bet they’re biased liberal donuts, cause, ya know, it’s the press. those nasty elitist donuts probably make little Johnny’s tummy hurt! and then the reporters all take turns dabbing a cool cotton cloth on poor Johnny’s forehead, until his tummy feels better. and they have a happy playtime in the flowers next to the lollipop farm while Johnny tells them stories about his time in the war.

  29. 29.

    Jen

    April 15, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Eh, Dunkin’ Donuts with sprinkles have got nothin’ on Krispy Kremes with the ‘hot donuts now’ sign lit. But I do like the pre-light&sweetened coffee at DD.

    He’s 72 years old. We should probably thank the press for giving him sugary saturated fats covered in artificial colorings and flavorings.

  30. 30.

    DougJ

    April 15, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    McSame no longer even buys the press donuts, they buy donuts for him.

    In Soviet Union, donut buys you. /Smirnoff

  31. 31.

    DFH no.6

    April 15, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Delia, above:

    “Our best course now is to gracefully let go of dreams of empire and converting the world to whatever, and become second-rate and happy. Any bets on that happening?”

    I’m not taking that bet. Yes, that would be the best course, but America is far too heavily invested in our mythic “exceptionalism”, and particularly in our military and our “warrior-culture”, to gracefully let go of Pax Americana.

    We will instead continue to spend upwards of $1 trillion a year on the military (a figure that includes not just the “on the books” numbers from the Pentagon, but all the ancillary military spending in places like the Dept of Energy, as well as interest payments, “supplementals”, etc.) while real, productive economic activity and the standard of living for the vast majority inexorably declines (but, of course, the rich will still get richer, so it balances out).

    We will, I’m afraid, use the remaining “superpower” that we have – military, not economic – to hang on at all costs to our Empire, lashing out at the rest of the world to, in part, assuage the “bitterness of hard-working Americans” (to coin a phrase no one, as far as I know, ever thought of before) in a vain and bloody attempt to stay on top. All of which will be, of course, good news for Republicans.

    We won’t do it anywhere near as “quietly” as the Brits, who didn’t exactly let go of their Empire without a few parting shots.

    That’s why, though I dearly wish the comment above by Mr. Grand Moff Texan (one of my favoristest writers on these Internets) were true, I fully expect President John McCain. He stands for Empire, and so, I sadly believe, do most of my countrymen.

    To channel Principal Skinner: “Prove me wrong, children. Prove me wrong.”

    And, yeah, I know, I use, you’ve likely noticed, too many commas and “quote marks”. Sue me.

  32. 32.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    April 15, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    I agree with Yglesias… They need to start attacking McCain on national security.

    Yep. (1) Bomb, bomb Iran. (2) 100 more years. (3) Confusing AQ/AQI/Iranian Shiite proxies, etc. (4) Torture (5) Not supporting a bi-partisan GI Bill moving through Congress right now (it might cause troops to leave the service to get an education! Then get a job where people don’t try to kill them! Oh noes!)

    Put’em on a loop and wear’em out.

  33. 33.

    Napoleon

    April 15, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    And speaking of the recession depression, another fine ex-Republican who saw the light has a new book out. Kevin Phillips and it’s called Bad Money. Heard about it on NPR this morning. Apparently when dominant powers get to the point where they’re not producing stuff; they’re producing schemes to make money, they’ve jumped the shark. (See Great Britain, the Dutch Republic.) Our best course now is to gracefully let go of dreams of empire and converting the world to whatever, and become second-rate and happy. Any bets on that happening?

    Two of the best books I have ever read are Phillips books. This one is his 4th on this same general subject. He has a seperate series of 3 books that blast the house of Bush. The political tragetory he has taken from writing “The Emerging Republican Majority” in 1968 and serving in the Nixon White House is amazing. He is appearing at Talking Point Memo’s book club this week.

  34. 34.

    The Other Steve

    April 15, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Eh, Dunkin’ Donuts with sprinkles have got nothin’ on Krispy Kremes with the ‘hot donuts now’ sign lit.

    Not if you happen to prefer cake donuts… Krispy Kreme had the worst donuts ever. Yuck.

    I don’t know what the hell that company was thinking, and I’m glad they went bust.

  35. 35.

    Rick Taylor

    April 15, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    I agree with Yglesias… They need to start attacking McCain on national security.

    6) McCain saying

    he’d defer to Petraeus when deciding whether to send troops from Iraq to Afghanistan

  36. 36.

    cleek

    April 15, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    I don’t know what the hell that company was thinking, and I’m glad they went bust.

    they hardly went bust. there are nearly 400 Krispy Kreme shops out there right now.

    i had a couple of cream-filled today, in fact.

  37. 37.

    maxbaer (not the original)

    April 15, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Ouch, indeed.

  38. 38.

    DFH no.6

    April 15, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    Krispy Kremes are a Southern thing. Northern types (such as moi) don’t get it, mostly.

    I mean, they’re OK, but nobody much misses them in Phoenix, now that they’ve split. Most of us here are expatriates from the Midwest, with few Johnny Rebs adding their, umm… “heritage” to the mix.

    Doesn’t keep the place from being rock-ribbed Republican, sad to say.

  39. 39.

    Jen

    April 15, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    You have to get the glazed Krispy Kremes. The store is half a mile from my office. Do you have any idea the will power it requires to keep those babies off my thighs? I would have to do the Krispy Kreme Fun Run!

  40. 40.

    jake

    April 15, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    OT: Mittens is sniffing McCane’s Depends.

    Senator McCain is very well aware of the spending programs in Washington, which ones need to be cut back, which ones need to be grown. He understands also how to relieve the pressure on the American taxpayer,” Romney said hours before McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, delivered an economic address in Pittsburgh.

    I McCain picks him to be Veep can hear the Mitt Rombots now:

    “Of course I wouldn’t want anything to happen to McCain, but if (gosh I feel so awful for even saying this) he did die (of natural causes and peacefully in his bed though that would be a horrible for America) …”

  41. 41.

    ThymeZone

    April 15, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    they hardly went bust.

    Some of their franchise operators went bankrupt, including the ones here in Arizona.

    They overexpanded and overreached, really. Their stock has been in freefall for a while.

    And in one person’s opinion, their donuts suck.

  42. 42.

    g-rant

    April 15, 2008 at 9:59 pm

    And in one person’s opinion, their donuts suck.

    Agreed. If I wanted sugary goo, I’d eat syrup. If I want a fucking donut, well fried, soft inside, with nice icing, I’ll get a proper one at a local bakery or make ’em myself.

  43. 43.

    binzinerator

    April 15, 2008 at 10:16 pm

    That was a very nice bitch slap.

  44. 44.

    binzinerator

    April 15, 2008 at 10:22 pm

    He’s 72 years old. We should probably thank the press for giving him sugary saturated fats covered in artificial colorings and flavorings.

    So calculating. So cruel.

    But I like you!

  45. 45.

    binzinerator

    April 15, 2008 at 10:45 pm

    Seriously, though, Jen’s post made an image from the vid jump out. It was when McSame says “I think our fundamentals are strong.”, near the beginning of the clip.

    It was the way he was standing. Legs wide apart, a bit hunched over. A bit wobbly. Just like a very elderly person who is unstable on his feet.

    This guy would become the oldest President to take office.

    Just what the nation needs. A enfeebled, mentally deteriorating leader who has adopted all the failing and unpopular policies of the war criminal George Bush.

    I really do think some of this ‘flip-flop’ business of ‘Maverick’ McCain is early dementia, especially when I consider his reversals on torture. Yes ambition is a big factor. But it seems to me to be also a signifier of eroding judgment, on something which ought to be so deeply rooted in his psyche that one would think — hope — had made an indelible impression upon any rational mind.

    But that’s just it. I have my suspicions that there is more than winger ideology at work here. I suspect McCain now is where Reagan was in 1987, and in more than policy positions.

  46. 46.

    DougJ

    April 16, 2008 at 12:03 am

    If I want a fucking donut, well fried, soft inside, with nice icing, I’ll get a proper one at a local bakery or make ‘em myself.

    Elitist.

  47. 47.

    Gregory

    April 16, 2008 at 9:32 am

    Heh. Indeed!

  48. 48.

    capelza

    April 16, 2008 at 11:35 am

    That image of McCain hugging Bush has always looked so pathetic it made me wince for McCain. But then I remember that he can not lift his arms to give the taller Bush a manly shoulder hug. It never dawned on me till now.

    But besides that, what everyone else said…

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