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by John Cole|  May 1, 20085:17 pm| 77 Comments

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Piggybacking on Michael’s post about the DC Madam- she was only 52.

I remember when 52 was really fucking old, and now it is just a few years older than me.

That sucks.

John +3

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  1. 1.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    May 1, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    You’re not really old until the President is younger than you. So I won’t know until sometime in November if I am officially old or not. But that is the sacrifice I must make if I want Obama to be President. That just how I roll.

  2. 2.

    Dennis - SGMM

    May 1, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    I remember when 52 was really fucking old, and now it is just a few years older than me.

    That sucks.

    I call lightweight. Wait ’til it’s a few years younger than you.

    Actually, I like most parts of being sixty. I’ve never been more comfortable in my own skin than I am now.

  3. 3.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    May 1, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    remember when 52 was really fucking old, and now it is just a few years older than me.

    It’s still pretty fucking old, JC. I bet you already had dinner around 3pm this afternoon, dincha?

  4. 4.

    ResumeMan

    May 1, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    I thought you were in your 30s John. How ’bout that. Learn something new every day.

    I remember when Reagan was shot. I was probably 13 or so. I remember my mom feeling so bad for the press secretary, James Brady, who got badly injured “he’s so young too, only 40.” I was thinking, YOUNG?!?! Hell I thought 40 was almost dead.

    I’m 41 now of course, and it doesn’t seem that Brady was quite so ancient any more…

  5. 5.

    calipygian

    May 1, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    I did a little math, and if Archie Bunker was 18 at the end of Dubya Dubya Two, The Big One, that means that his character was only 45-ish the first season of All in the Family.

    When I was a kid, I thought Archie Bunker was old as shit – and he looked it, too.

  6. 6.

    Mary

    May 1, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    You’re in your late 30s, John. You’re not allowed to piss and moan about 52 being close until you’re in your late 40s. That’s the rule. (I remember being a complete drama queen about turning 26. I want to go back and bitchslap that girl.)

    Obama is about 6 months younger than me. I can live with that. We both qualify as Gen-Xers because we were born the same year as Douglas Coupland (December 30, 1961). That’s my reasoning, anyway.

  7. 7.

    demimondian

    May 1, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Feh, Mary — that puts you as a few months younger than me.

    Child.

  8. 8.

    Mary

    May 1, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Wait a second — I’ll have to strip, get a sheet, get some flattering lighting, and get Annie Leibowitz. Be right back.

  9. 9.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    The Grand Panjandrum Says:

    You’re not really old until the President is younger than you. So I won’t know until sometime in November if I am officially old or not. But that is the sacrifice I must make if I want Obama to be President. That just how I roll.

    That’s very enlightened of you, Grand!

  10. 10.

    J. Michael Neal

    May 1, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    On online friend told me today that the HR person interviewing him asked, “What would your mortal enemies note about you?”

    I’m guessing that, “My mortal enemies would say nothing about me, because I killed them and ate their still beating hearts,” isn’t the answer that would get you the job.

    Whatever he said, he did get the job. I hate him, and all the rest of you that have jobs, down to the very bottom of my soul.

  11. 11.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    Mary Says:

    You’re in your late 30s, John. You’re not allowed to piss and moan about 52 being close until you’re in your late 40s. That’s the rule. (I remember being a complete drama queen about turning 26. I want to go back and bitchslap that girl.)

    lol I know what you mean. I used to think every inch towards 30 was getting old. The funny thing is- I feel much younger at 32 than I did at 22. In my twenties, everything was “the worst thing evah!” or it was the end of the world.

    I don’t take myself or much of anything that seriously anymore. It’s even weird to think of myself as in my 30’s until something reminds me. My Little Pony had its 25th anniversary last year and I was like “What! 25 years!? That’s not true! I had a My Little Pony when I was… oh, yeah, I guess it is true.” lol

  12. 12.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    J. Michael Neal Says:

    On online friend told me today that the HR person interviewing him asked, “What would your mortal enemies note about you?”

    I’m guessing that, “My mortal enemies would say nothing about me, because I killed them and ate their still beating hearts,” isn’t the answer that would get you the job.

    It depends on the job. For instance, you could probably get employment with KBR.

    Whatever he said, he did get the job. I hate him, and all the rest of you that have jobs, down to the very bottom of my soul.

    Umm… sorry?

  13. 13.

    Zuzu

    May 1, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    Actually, I like most parts of being sixty. I’ve never been more comfortable in my own skin than I am now.

    I have a couple of years before I hit 60, but I agree. Plus, given the boomer track record for defying expectations, I think it really is true that 60 is the new 40.

  14. 14.

    demimondian

    May 1, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    Ironically, I don’t much like the Cyrus portrait. Leibowitz has done much, much better, in my opinion; there’s nothing interesting in the subject as shown in the photo.

    (Now, to be fair to Leibowitz, I can’t rule out the possibility that the wicked wicked woman meant to say exactly that about her subject. And, if she meant to do so, then that photo is the pictorial equivalent of Atrios’ blog post this morning.)

  15. 15.

    Incertus

    May 1, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    Scary how that shit happens, isn’t it?

    And in the open thread spirit, we’re having fun with horrible album covers over at my place, if anyone would care to drop by. You have to be old enough to remember what an album is, but I daresay that’s not an issue with you lot.

  16. 16.

    Zuzu

    May 1, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    I’m 41 now of course, and it doesn’t seem that Brady was quite so ancient any more…

    I can never get over it when I see a picture of someone who looks pretty old and beat up to me…and discover that they’re actually younger than me.

    For instance …

  17. 17.

    Tsulagi

    May 1, 2008 at 6:05 pm

    John +3

    Well, if I come back later and see a post titled: “Hillary–I’d Hit That!”, I’ll know you stopped counting and you’re well into the second bottle.

  18. 18.

    RSA

    May 1, 2008 at 6:07 pm

    You’re in your late 30s, John.

    But John rants like a much older man. . .

  19. 19.

    demimondian

    May 1, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    John rants like a much older man…

    Sorry, but nobody rants like TZ…

  20. 20.

    Incertus

    May 1, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    I can never get over it when I see a picture of someone who looks pretty old and beat up to me…and discover that they’re actually younger than me.

    Yeah, but that happens to you when you’ve had your soul sucked out of you by the Demon Prince of the 83rd Dimension.

  21. 21.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    May 1, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    For instance …

    Goddammit, include warnings for those links please.

    I was looking at porn in another browser window. Was.

  22. 22.

    J. Michael Neal

    May 1, 2008 at 6:13 pm

    Whatever he said, he did get the job. I hate him, and all the rest of you that have jobs, down to the very bottom of my soul.

    Umm… sorry?

    I’ve been unemployed for more than a year. I’ve probably put in 400 applications over the last six months, and gotten three interviews. They all turned me down because I’m overqualified.

  23. 23.

    Zuzu

    May 1, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    Yeah, but that happens to you when you’ve had your soul sucked out of you by the Demon Prince of the 83rd Dimension.

    True.

  24. 24.

    Jim

    May 1, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    Want proof of how stupid Fox & Friends is? Taking clueless bastards to a whole new level. From the Dana Perino school of Journalism (“The Cuban Missile Crisis had something to do with missiles in Cuba, right?)

  25. 25.

    DougJ

    May 1, 2008 at 6:20 pm

    It’s a strange and sad thing that in DC today, if you pimp girls out for a few hundred dollars an hour, you’re a social leper who is driven to suicide, but if you pimp a war that costs 10 million dollars an hour, you’re given a cushy job writing editorials at a prestigious newspaper.

    Would that Kristol, Brooks, Gerson, Hiatt, and the rest had the sense of shame and embarrassment that this poor woman had.

  26. 26.

    Zuzu

    May 1, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    And of course there are times I really, really am glad I’ve decided to just age gracefully.

    Gloria Vanderbilt, age 84

  27. 27.

    cleek

    May 1, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    yeah… this is the first election where one of the candidates is anywhere near my age. Obama’s the age where he could’ve been a friend’s older brother.

    time is some scary shit.

  28. 28.

    Fledermaus

    May 1, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    One article says that she had been saying that she would kill herself rather than go back to jail. Sad.

    Yet Scooter Libby never even served a single day.

    (Fledermaus soon to be +4)

  29. 29.

    Dug Jay

    May 1, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    The new Clinton TV ad set to roll out this weekend in Indiana and North Carolina kicks ass, BIG TIME. The closing two lines say all that a voter needs to consider:

    “Senator Obama is asking for your vote to become your President. Ask yourself whether you would even buy a used car from him.”

  30. 30.

    cleek

    May 1, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    Obama nicely smacked Hillary McCain around on the gas tax pander…

  31. 31.

    Krista

    May 1, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    My Little Pony had its 25th anniversary last year and I was like “What! 25 years!? That’s not true! I had a My Little Pony when I was… oh, yeah, I guess it is true.”

    Are you serious? 25 years? Fuck me, that’s depressing.

  32. 32.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    May 1, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    @cleek: Thanks for the link —

    Meanwhile, Obama once again stated his opposition to such a holiday while also campaigning in Indiana. “This isn’t a real solution. This is a gimmick,” he said. “And this is what Washington does whenever there’s a big problem. They pretend that they’re solving it to try to get though a political season but they don’t really solve it. And unfortunately, after John McCain made the proposal ,I guess Sen. Clinton thought it was gonna poll well, so she said, ‘Me too, I’ll do the same thing.’ and so now it’s the McCain-Clinton proposal to suspend the gas tax.

    Ouch! Thats going to leave a mark.

    He then said, “You know people are more concerned about looking good for the cameras and for politics than they are at actually solving problems. You remember when George Bush five years ago put up a big sign in front of an aircraft carrier saying ‘Mission accomplished’ in Iraq. I’m sure they thought that was good politics. Except five years later we’re still in this war in Iraq.”

    And Obama gets the twofer.

  33. 33.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    Krista Says:

    My Little Pony had its 25th anniversary last year and I was like “What! 25 years!? That’s not true! I had a My Little Pony when I was… oh, yeah, I guess it is true.”

    Are you serious? 25 years? Fuck me, that’s depressing.

    Maybe it’s depressing, initially, but, come Krista! We’re women in our 30’s! We’re totally empowered and stuff!

  34. 34.

    John Cole

    May 1, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    My Little Pony had its 25th anniversary last year and I was like “What! 25 years!? That’s not true! I had a My Little Pony when I was… oh, yeah, I guess it is true.”

    Guy version- Try watching the Pens/Rangers game with the announcers reminding you every five minutes that Jagr has been in the league for 18 fucking years.

  35. 35.

    J. Michael Neal

    May 1, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    Guy version- Try watching the Pens/Rangers game with the announcers reminding you every five minutes that Jagr has been in the league for 18 fucking years.

    It’s Versus. Your best bet is the Mute button.

  36. 36.

    Krista

    May 1, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    Maybe it’s depressing, initially, but, come Krista! We’re women in our 30’s! We’re totally empowered and stuff!

    As well as having the aforementioned great rack.

  37. 37.

    A Different JC

    May 1, 2008 at 7:39 pm

    Thanks for that link cleek, and The Grand Panjandrum for highlighting the best stuff. Note it was a three-fer: he zapped McCain, Hillary and compared them both to Bush. He may not be able to bowl, but he can hoop.

  38. 38.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    Krista Says:

    Maybe it’s depressing, initially, but, come Krista! We’re women in our 30’s! We’re totally empowered and stuff!

    As well as having the aforementioned great rack.

    Exactly! And we’re not ashamed, as the shirts I wear can attest to. So we’re older, wiser and still sexy. (Not to mention humble.)

  39. 39.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    John Cole Says:

    My Little Pony had its 25th anniversary last year and I was like “What! 25 years!? That’s not true! I had a My Little Pony when I was… oh, yeah, I guess it is true.”

    Guy version- Try watching the Pens/Rangers game with the announcers reminding you every five minutes that Jagr has been in the league for 18 fucking years.

    Unisex version- Pac-Man will be 28 years old later this month!

  40. 40.

    myiq2xu

    May 1, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    As well as having the aforementioned great rack.

    I’ll know I am old when I hear the phrase “great rack” and my first thought isn’t “tits”

  41. 41.

    cbear

    May 1, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    As well as having the aforementioned great rack

    I can’t speak for the other guys here, but I don’t really have anything I’m dying to comment on—pls feel free, totally free, to continue your discussion….

  42. 42.

    scrutinizer

    May 1, 2008 at 7:46 pm

    Genine? Krista? You two gonna start cruisin’ the strip in a pink Caddy or somethin’?

  43. 43.

    Krista

    May 1, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Hey, there is a serious dearth of female commenters on here, particularly ones in my peer group. Let me have my bonding, goddammit.

    Although knowing my luck, Genine is really DougJ or one of the other trolls, and I’ve just been reeled in like a trout.

  44. 44.

    Krista

    May 1, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    Unisex version- Pac-Man will be 28 years old later this month!

    And Scott Baio is 49…and pregnant.

  45. 45.

    cbear

    May 1, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    let ’em talk boys, fer chrissakes let ’em talk.

  46. 46.

    AkaDad

    May 1, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    As well as having the aforementioned great rack.

    I think I’ll be smoking 4 cigarettes today.

  47. 47.

    Andrew J. Lazarus

    May 1, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    Thanks to Dick Cheney, when I hear about a great rack I assume it’s an enhanced interrogation device.

  48. 48.

    scrutinizer

    May 1, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    Hey! I think cruisin’ the Strip in a pink Caddy would be fun. Bond on, by all means.

  49. 49.

    cbear

    May 1, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Let me have my bonding, goddammit.

    Oh hell yeah, bonding, that’s very, very important for you girls. Can we assist?

  50. 50.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Krista Says:

    Hey, there is a serious dearth of female commenters on here, particularly ones in my peer group. Let me have my bonding, goddammit.

    Although knowing my luck, Genine is really DougJ or one of the other trolls, and I’ve just been reeled in like a trout.

    Oh, no, I’d never do that to you… or anyone else! I’m all for the bonding, this is fun!

    Besides, I’m sure the guys wouldn’t mind the bonding if we were in baby-doll jammies at a slumber party or in bikinis by the pool rubbing sunscreen on each other or whatever imagery comes to mind for cbear. lol

  51. 51.

    scrutinizer

    May 1, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Thanks to Dick Cheney, when I hear about a great rack I assume it’s an enhanced interrogation device.

    Me, I never think that. Although that brought a passage from The Letter of Marque to mind:

    “…as just now I conceived the chapter in which Sophonisba confines Roderigo in the Iron Maiden on pretence of wanton play and begins to turn the screw…”

    Ah, that wanton play—

  52. 52.

    scrutinizer

    May 1, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Besides, I’m sure the guys wouldn’t mind the bonding if we were in baby-doll jammies at a slumber party or in bikinis by the pool rubbing sunscreen on each other or whatever imagery comes to mind for cbear. lol

    …moan…

  53. 53.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    And Scott Baio is 49…and pregnant.

    You know, I’m very egalitarian and all, but a guy saying he’s pregnant too is just wrong, imo.

  54. 54.

    Krista

    May 1, 2008 at 8:09 pm

    Besides, I’m sure the guys wouldn’t mind the bonding if we were in baby-doll jammies at a slumber party or in bikinis by the pool rubbing sunscreen on each other or whatever imagery comes to mind for cbear. lol

    Keep this up, and we’ll increase the hits on this site quite a bit, methinks.

  55. 55.

    Tsulagi

    May 1, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Besides, I’m sure the guys wouldn’t mind the bonding if we were in baby-doll jammies at a slumber party or in bikinis by the pool rubbing sunscreen on each other or whatever imagery comes to mind

    Do you have a webcam? Take direction?

    ;)

  56. 56.

    cbear

    May 1, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    Keep this up, and we’ll increase the hits on this site

    lots of things are increasing, but can we avoid the pregnant men part of the bonding process? it’s very distracting.

  57. 57.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    Krista Says:

    Besides, I’m sure the guys wouldn’t mind the bonding if we were in baby-doll jammies at a slumber party or in bikinis by the pool rubbing sunscreen on each other or whatever imagery comes to mind for cbear. lol

    Keep this up, and we’ll increase the hits on this site quite a bit, methinks.

    Then John can up the fundraising goal from $15,000 in two weeks to $30,000 in two weeks.

    ‘Cos we got it like that!

  58. 58.

    cbear

    May 1, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    I gotta $100 bucks burning a hole in my pocket right now….any ideas on how I could spend it??

  59. 59.

    bwaage

    May 1, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    “Rich people, god bless us!”

    Imagine what cable news would be like for the next week if it was Obama that said that.

  60. 60.

    Krista

    May 1, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    Hm. You might be on to something. If the donations reach $15,000, we start elaborating more on this alleged pyjama party, with new chapters being added for every $5000 reached.

    Bwah-ha-ha!

  61. 61.

    Genine

    May 1, 2008 at 8:38 pm

    Krista Says:

    Hm. You might be on to something. If the donations reach $15,000, we start elaborating more on this alleged pyjama party, with new chapters being added for every $5000 reached.

    Bwah-ha-ha!

    Brilliant! But it’s John’s blog and its known for high-brow political discourse.

    Wouldn’t we change the nature of this blog and affect the readership? What about the regulars? They’re so delicate and sensitive…

  62. 62.

    Wilfred

    May 1, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    Sami al-Haj -6:

    An al-Jazeera cameraman detained by American forces in Afghanistan was last night released after spending nearly six years imprisoned without charge at Guantánamo Bay.

    Sami al-Haj, 39, was arrested on the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan on December 15 2001, while on assignment to cover the war against the Taliban. Although he had a valid visa to work in Afghanistan, US intelligence alleged that he was an al-Qaida operative, and he was transferred to Guantánamo in June 2002.

    6 years without charges and without trial, not a word in a US paper, here

  63. 63.

    demimondian

    May 1, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    But it’s John’s blog and its known for high-brow political discourse.

    Umm, John?

    Have you changed to blog while I was on hiatus? Somehow, delicate regulars and high-brow political discourse aren’t things I’ve thought of when BJuice has been mentioned in the past.

  64. 64.

    ThymeZone

    May 2, 2008 at 2:14 am

    Have you changed to blog while I was on hiatus

    Apparently something called “bonding” is de rigueur now.

    Maybe we can get together some coupons for Super Glue?

  65. 65.

    Michael D.

    May 2, 2008 at 4:36 am

    Try watching the Pens/Rangers game with the announcers reminding you every five minutes that Jagr has been in the league for 18 fucking years.

    I used to collect hockey cards. I have a few of Jagr’s rookie cards.

    I’m 38. I thought I was older than most of you, honestly. I’m surprised by how many older (than me) people read this blog.

    One thing I will note is that 60+ doesn’t seem so old to me any more. Not because I am getting older myself, but because I have spent several weeks over the past 3 summers at my parents’ RV park in Lakeland Florida. Everyone is 60+, and few act it.

  66. 66.

    Jasonconga

    May 2, 2008 at 5:59 am

    hello from germany! beautiful weather, going to the gym soon and then a private english lesson with the money manager of a prince, then eating a schnitzel and going to see some live reggae music at an irish pub. Have to meet the new girlfriend’s parents tomorrow. That’s as open as it gets…

    cheers

  67. 67.

    grandpajohn

    May 2, 2008 at 8:03 am

    I remember when 52 was really fucking old, and now it is just a few years older than me.

    Yeah well wait until you are staring 71 in the face on your next birthday then you can really start pondering on where the hell all those years have gone and thinking about all those things you were going to do with your life that somehow never got done.And worst of all realizing that the results of the actions of those fucking assholes that have been destroying our country for the last 8 years means that in all probability my and most everyone else’s here children and grandchildren are facing a lower quality of life than the one that we lived, since we not members of the privileged rich of this country.

  68. 68.

    grandpajohn

    May 2, 2008 at 8:09 am

    You have to be old enough to remember what an album is, but I daresay that’s not an issue with you lot.

    Hey, I’m old enough to remember when 8 track tape players were the hottest thing going and you were nothing if you didn’t have one in your car.

  69. 69.

    Bob In Pacifica

    May 2, 2008 at 8:19 am

    Fifty-two. Right in my wheelhouse. When you’re looking for a woman you want one that can remember what you remember. And a woman who has momentarily forgotten what you’ve forgotten.

  70. 70.

    grandpajohn

    May 2, 2008 at 8:22 am

    He then said, “You know people are more concerned about looking good for the cameras and for politics than they are at actually solving problems. You remember when George Bush five years ago put up a big sign in front of an aircraft carrier saying ‘Mission accomplished’ in Iraq. I’m sure they thought that was good politics. Except five years later we’re still in this war in Iraq.”

    At least there is one straight talker in this campaign, but it ain’t McBush and it ain’t Hil

    Meanwhile, Obama once again stated his opposition to such a holiday while also campaigning in Indiana. “This isn’t a real solution. This is a gimmick,” he said. “And this is what Washington does whenever there’s a big problem. They pretend that they’re solving it to try to get though a political season but they don’t really solve it.

    Time to stand up and shout Amen, the true straight talk express has finally arrived

  71. 71.

    Buck

    May 2, 2008 at 8:45 am

    I remember when 52 was really fucking old, and now it is just a few years older than me.

    Right there with you. The older I get the better Grandma’s are lookin’

  72. 72.

    Woodrowfan

    May 2, 2008 at 8:50 am

    At a certain age when a man sees a pretty college coed he should be thinking “wow, I bet her Mom is HOT!”

  73. 73.

    Jamey

    May 2, 2008 at 8:54 am

    Actually, I like most parts of being sixty. I’ve never been more comfortable in my own skin than I am now.

    That’s because it’s stretched out to fit…

  74. 74.

    Jamey

    May 2, 2008 at 9:04 am

    You know, I’m very egalitarian and all, but a guy saying he’s pregnant too is just wrong, imo.

    That’s because you’ve never had to work as hard as I have to regain your boyish figure…

  75. 75.

    grandpajohn

    May 2, 2008 at 10:17 am

    At a certain age when a man sees a pretty college coed he should be thinking “wow, I bet her Mom is HOT!”

    well that age must be past 70 because I haven’t reached it yet. I still prefer to look at the hot college cutie over her mom, but then maybe I am just a perv

  76. 76.

    chopper

    May 2, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Right there with you. The older I get the better Grandma’s are lookin’

    if i see the term GILF thrown around here in all seriousness, i’m outta here forever.

  77. 77.

    Ted

    May 2, 2008 at 9:45 pm

    It might suck to be getting old – hell, I’ll be forty next year – very early next year too – and I’m not looking forward to it one bit – but then what’s the alternative?

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