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You are here: Home / Past Elections / Election 2008 / A Late Night Prediction

A Late Night Prediction

by John Cole|  May 6, 200811:34 pm| 102 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008

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Now that this really is over, this is what the Clinton/Obama factions of the party are going to look like over the next few weeks as they come back together:

Thank god this is over.

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  1. 1.

    drag0n

    May 6, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Thank god it’s not only Clinton who can play dirty politics. ALL HAIL THE CHICAGO MACHINE!

    word is Hillary has cancelled all her public appearances tomorrow.

    Chicago put a stake in her!

  2. 2.

    Porco Rosso

    May 6, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Is that why Hillary wanted to drop the cigarette tax?

  3. 3.

    Desmond

    May 6, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    You got to wonder if this is really it. Russert just said the race was over. And now with Hillary cancelling all scheduled appearances tomorrow…

  4. 4.

    DFD

    May 6, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    An insider’s view of the Clinton machine
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdE_jlyRndw

  5. 5.

    Rick Taylor

    May 7, 2008 at 12:00 am

    Hillary’s victory speech in Indiana can be seen here for those who missed it; unfortunately it’s missing the ending and the references to Michigan and Florida. Obama’s speech can be seen here.

  6. 6.

    Billy K

    May 7, 2008 at 12:01 am

    From Hillaryis44,

    It has begun:

    I’ve decided today that no matter what, I’m switching my party affiliation to Republican from Democratic. The reasons are simple. Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi and all of the other power-hungry democratic latte liberals in the DNC hate the Clintons. They hate the Clinton years and they hate the scandals and are willing to give anything and do anything to take the nomination away from Hillary. Hence, the refusal to count Michigan or Florida or have revotes, and the support of a 1-year- freshman senator with no notable accomplishments, record of bi-partisan work, or serious leadership history by party hacks like fat Ted Kennedy and horse-faced John Kerry.

    [snip]

    If Barack Obama is to win the democratic nomination, I, and many of my family and friends and people that I have called, will deliver Senator McCain a thing only of dreams: a unanimous sweeping Republican victory in November

    [snip]

    I can stand 4 more years of Bush-like politics, though I admit I don’t want to. What I won’t be able to stand, however, is a politician as corrupt, self-serving, conniving, lying, and america-hating as Senator Barack Hussein Obama sitting in the Oval Office and I will use 150% of my heart to make sure this dangerous man does not EVER be put into the position to lead our Great Nation.

    [snip]

    Democracy at its finest is when it is played fairly with no personal vendettas, and when the TRULY qualified individuals ascend to prominence. Sadly, none of these qualities can be said of Senator Barack Obama or the democratic party as a whole.

    Fucking lunatics..

  7. 7.

    MBL

    May 7, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Both Russert and Drudge have now declared Obama the nominee. Honestly? I’m willing to let them be right on that one. ;-)

  8. 8.

    Billy K

    May 7, 2008 at 12:03 am

    And more lunacy…

    Chicago Politics, folks. These guys are pros at fraud.

    Oh, and I should let you guys know that a Chicago law firm who has or had two of its members tied up with Rezko and contributions to Obama was spending an awful lot of time looking at my site yesterday. That’s all I’m going to say for now.

    Looks like some people are getting nervous.

    Maybe nervous enough to ‘make things happen’ in Lake County, Chicago-style.

  9. 9.

    Martin

    May 7, 2008 at 12:03 am

    From Ambinder:

    She’ll spend time meeting with senior staff, with key supporters, and with undecided superdelegates. She may make a surprise visit to her campaign headquarters in Arlington. She’ll attend a fundraiser in the evening that is open to the press.

    That’s the end. Let’s put all energy on McCain.

  10. 10.

    D0n Camillo

    May 7, 2008 at 12:04 am

    I am so looking forward to watching McCain and the entire GOP wind up with pony hoof prints on their foreheads. Thank God this is finally over! Well done Barack! I hope Hillary can be a good sport about this. If she throws all her energy in to getting Senator Obama elected she will go a long way towards undoing the bad feelings she’s created in the last 8 weeks or so.

  11. 11.

    SamFromUtah

    May 7, 2008 at 12:04 am

    I, and many of my family and friends and people that I have called, will deliver Senator McCain a thing only of dreams: a unanimous sweeping Republican victory in November…

    Well, they’re right about that being a thing only of dreams.

  12. 12.

    KRK

    May 7, 2008 at 12:06 am

    Al Giordano at The Field sums up the night nicely:

    They’re all so depressed over at Fox News that they’ve just handed the microphone over to Hannity and Colmes, and dismissed the talking heads for the night.

    And now those two have to stay up until there’s a result.

    Is there such a thing as having too much fun?

    Turns out that becoming the “All Jeremiah Wright – All the Time” channel didn’t really pan out like they expected.

  13. 13.

    MBL

    May 7, 2008 at 12:06 am

    Unanimous? Good luck.

  14. 14.

    Davis X. Machina

    May 7, 2008 at 12:07 am

    It’s like none of those people ever lost an election.

    I’ve been a state convention delegate for Jerry Brown/Uncommitted & Paul Tsongas. I’ve worked on the Mo Udall and Ted Kennedy campaigns as a lad.
    Hell, my mom said that at the age of 4 I stomped around the living room during the 1960 singing the jingle from the Stuart Symington campaign. In Boston. In a Catholic house.

    These things happen.

  15. 15.

    firebrand

    May 7, 2008 at 12:07 am

    At least the Hillaryis44 people are admitting that they’re really Republicans. Some honestly coming out of them for a change.

  16. 16.

    Billy K

    May 7, 2008 at 12:08 am

    WHY CAN’T OBAMA CLOSE THE DE-

    oh wait…

  17. 17.

    The Other Steve

    May 7, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Ok… looks like the numbers aren’t going to close up. 99% reporting and it’s still around 20k votes seperating.

    Clinton people will go into their “a win is a win” schtick.

    But this seriously cripples clinton’s chances.

  18. 18.

    PeterJ

    May 7, 2008 at 12:11 am

    From Hillaryis44,

    It has begun:

    My guess is that there is a number of republicans on TalkLeft, TaylorMarsh, Hillaryis44 and NoQuarters, and the rest of the pro Hillary blogs. Now that Clinton is no longer any use for them they will try to get the readers to vote for McCain. Also, there are some rather stupid people there too.

  19. 19.

    firebrand

    May 7, 2008 at 12:12 am

    Damn. Hillary’s back up to about 22,000 with 99% of precincts reporting. Oh well. Doesn’t change the fact that Lake County and the state of Indiana was the game-changer. Wooo! IN!

  20. 20.

    KRK

    May 7, 2008 at 12:12 am

    Billy K Says:

    From Hillaryis44,

    Seriously, though. Isn’t that site like the same 50 people circle jerking in comment threads? Is that really a threat? Even if you add up all the netroots who’ll go to their deathbeds whispering yes…she…will…, what small fraction of voters are we talking about?

  21. 21.

    Mary

    May 7, 2008 at 12:13 am

    CNN called IN for Clinton, but still … she’s toast.

  22. 22.

    MBL

    May 7, 2008 at 12:15 am

    I’m in Indiana, and I have NEVER felt so happy about losing.

    That said, I have to be up for work in… Christ, I don’t want to do that math. Going to bed now, kids.

  23. 23.

    Rick Taylor

    May 7, 2008 at 12:15 am

    No Quarter has a transcript of Clinton’s Indiana speech.

  24. 24.

    L. Ron Obama

    May 7, 2008 at 12:24 am

    I’ll believe it’s over when I hear it direct from Hillary.

  25. 25.

    D0n Camillo

    May 7, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Clinton people will go into their “a win is a win” schtick.

    But this seriously cripples clinton’s chances.

    If she needs to save face, fine. But she’d better realize that it’s over and act accordingly. Her Obama kneecapping days are over. She is going to have to work at healing the divisions she helped open in the last few weeks if she wants to have any sort of future in Democratic politics.

  26. 26.

    Soylent Green

    May 7, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Now that this really is over

    Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

    I’ve been checking out the comments at Marsh and 44 and NoQ. The folks dressed from head to toe in aluminum foil are either admitting no setback whatsoever or raging that the Lake County returns are fake and the fix was in.

    Hillary will bow out no sooner than the 20th in Kentucky, June 3 at the latest. She will already be thinking ahead to her next Senate run, which will be in jeopardy.

  27. 27.

    nightjar

    May 7, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Billy K Says:

    From Hillaryis44,

    It has begun:

    When your Queen to be is awaiting Coronation, it’s got to hurt when you learn she’s only Cinderella and it’s damn near midnight.

  28. 28.

    Tattoosydney

    May 7, 2008 at 12:27 am

    While I try to resist quoting more Hillaryis44 rubbish, I find it hard not to.

    My favourite so far:

    You know journalists, the media could be reading this board and getting ideas …. I am happy she won Indiana…it was supposed to be the big tie-breaker!

    Hmmm. I think Fox already has all of the talking points they need (although they don’t seem to be working).

  29. 29.

    Davis X. Machina

    May 7, 2008 at 12:28 am

    She is going to have to work at healing the divisions she helped open in the last few weeks if she wants to have any sort of future in Democratic politics.

    There’s always the Lieberman-independent-barony route, or Bull-Moose-ism.

    Watch for sudden upticks in TR references.

  30. 30.

    Ben

    May 7, 2008 at 12:28 am

    I’ll admit I don’t get it. It’s been clear for a while that Hillary intends to stick around until mathematically eliminated (and maybe longer), even though the delegate lead has long been nearly insurmountable. So unless a massive number of superdelegates declare support for Obama in the near future, I see little reason to think this is any more over than it was a month ago. She won’t win, of course, but that won’t stop her from bloodying Obama up until the convention.

    I hope I’m wrong about this.

  31. 31.

    Chuck Butcher

    May 7, 2008 at 12:33 am

    A bit of a miss on NC

    Indiana just closed, I think a near split; NC I’d bet 9%. As for OR, pluk is an idiot, Hillary will get waxed. Not by any stretch of imagination is OR anything like OH, IN, PA, or NY.

    May 6th, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    I thought I’d do a better prediction on NC, 14 vs my 9 is more than a bit bad.

  32. 32.

    cbear

    May 7, 2008 at 12:34 am

    This primariented stuff is hard work.

  33. 33.

    L. Ron Obama

    May 7, 2008 at 12:36 am

    Remember when she closed the Feb 22 debate with “It’s been an honor”, and everyone proclaimed it a valedictory and you felt some sympathy for her, and then she stabbed Obama repeatedly in the gut with a sharpened toothbrush for over two months?

    That’s why all this talk of “over” is premature and wishful thinking. I hope to God you’re right.

  34. 34.

    drag0n

    May 7, 2008 at 12:36 am

    THE RACE IS NOT OVER FOR THE PRESS

    It is over for us tho. That was a concession speech. If she keeps fighting it is just to keep Democrats in the press.

    As long as she stops attacking Obama we need to leave her alone….

  35. 35.

    Davis X. Machina

    May 7, 2008 at 12:38 am

    As long as she stops attacking Obama we need to leave her alone….

    If she stops attacking Obama, she’ll disappear.

    Na Ga Ha Pen.

  36. 36.

    cbear

    May 7, 2008 at 12:40 am

    g’nite Grandpa

    g’nite myiq

    g’nite Mary Ellen

    g’nite phuk

    g’nite John-Boy

  37. 37.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    May 7, 2008 at 12:41 am

    I hope I’m wrong about this.

    You are. MONEY. She may not want to quite but her major funders will no longer be bundling those donations for her. Tonights result will force her funding sources to take a good hard look at Clinton’s chances of prevailing. They are much closer to zero tonight than they were this morning.

    She’ll stay in but probably won’t campaign much now.

  38. 38.

    Jim

    May 7, 2008 at 12:44 am

    Sean Hannity is the world’s greatest putz. You can tell he is so desperate to bring Obama down. He is pushing the Ayers thing so damn hard, inflating the relationship between Obama and Ayers, and egging Rove into agreeing with him (which Karl is all to happy to do).

    Oh, and the Talk Left folks are beyond suicidal. I hadn’t realized that Obama was the spawn of Satan. Guess I’m going to have to change my candidate. Fucking nitwits.

  39. 39.

    Rick Taylor

    May 7, 2008 at 12:45 am

    And a youtube of the second part of Hillary’s victory speech in Indiana.

  40. 40.

    Brachiator

    May 7, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Ben Says:

    I’ll admit I don’t get it. It’s been clear for a while that Hillary intends to stick around until mathematically eliminated (and maybe longer), even though the delegate lead has long been nearly insurmountable.

    Senator Clinton may have set up her own exit strategy.

    Al Gore, interviewed on the NPR program “Fresh Air,” was asked what he thought about Hillary Clinton’s gas tax holiday proposal. While he tried to be as diplomatic as possible, and offered a more nuanced proposal related to energy taxes, it was clear that his answer categorically excluded Senator Clinton’s idea, and also implied that it was environmentally irresponsible.

    Now, if some reporter asks her straight out what she has to say about Gore’s lack of support for her gas tax plan, would she have the cojones to dismiss him as another out-of-touch elitist? Such a stance would also imply that he was wrong about climate change, him being an elitist and all.

    I’m not sure that she realizes the corner she has backed herself into.

    By the way, I think that Gore also strongly implied during the interview that the appropriate challenger would “know when it was time to go,” well befoe the convention, even though he declined to formally endorse anyone.

  41. 41.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    May 7, 2008 at 12:58 am

    net result for the night:

    In NC, Hillary’s pickup truck got ticketed, towed and sent to the crusher.

    In IN, She hangs on by a gas cap and pump fumes.

    It’s over.

    It’s really, really over.

    Even the horse-race obsessed media idiots aren’t trying to pretend otherwise.

    Poblano at fivethirtyeight puts it into perspective:

    11:20 PM
    Another milestone of sorts: if you COMBINE the results from Pennsylvania, Indiana, and North Carolina, it now appears that Obama will have gained in the popular vote between those three states.

    It may take a week or two for it to sink in, what a historic night this was.

  42. 42.

    KRK

    May 7, 2008 at 1:07 am

    And the eyes of the nation turn to West Virginia….

  43. 43.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    May 7, 2008 at 1:12 am

    Just so no one misunderstands my last comment, IMHO the intersection of “horse-race obsessed media idiots” and Poblano equals the null set.

  44. 44.

    NR

    May 7, 2008 at 1:19 am

    Chris Bowers said it best tonight:

    So, please correct me if I am missing something, but if a shift of 4-5% and two or three delegates in Indiana and North Carolina is enough to end the Democratic nomination, then why didn’t anyone frakking tell us that the campaign was so close to ending? Why was there this massive kabuki theater pretending that it was still a close campaign where Clinton had a legitimate chance at winning? Why were Clinton’s attacks on Obama repeated again, and again, and again, without anyone mentioning that Clinton was a desperate candidate hanging by a thread who would probably say anything in order to stay afloat?

    The reason is simple: the established media was never covering the Democratic nomination campaign. They were, instead, covering some form of kabuki theater where reality is ignored and liberals are ritually gutted on the public stage for the pleasure of elite, rich, white, male pundits who like to pretend they know what is in the mind of the “common man” or some other formulation that is equally rustic, offensive and laughable. That is all that we have been watching since the Wisconsin primary, since the delegates have not improved for Clinton since the Wisconsin primary (and have actually gotten much worse, if you include the supers). If we had been watching something else, then tonight would not be the end of the campaign, because nothing really changed tonight. If this is the end, then the last two and a half months have been a Clinton-fueled fairy tale, which is basically a white-hot lie about the nomination campaign. Puns intended in the previous sentence.

  45. 45.

    Soylent Green

    May 7, 2008 at 1:22 am

    And the eyes of the nation turn to West Virginia….

    Where Cole casts the deciding vote. That one-vote margin determines whether this continues.

  46. 46.

    Darkness

    May 7, 2008 at 1:26 am

    Oh, toss the girl a supreme court nomination and be done with it.

    Heads will explode. Deserving heads.

  47. 47.

    r€nato

    May 7, 2008 at 1:37 am

    the Talk Left folks are beyond suicidal.

    Really? I’d be willing to lend a hand.

    Any Democrat who says they’ll vote for McCain before they’ll vote for Obama is an idiot, a retard, as bad as Lieberman.

    Look at the Supreme Court and tell me you’d rather have McCain appointing the next 2 or 3 justices, rather than a Democrat. Say that with a straight face.

    I’m pretty sure these folks will come home by November if not sooner, but geez… the tantrums are not very becoming of alleged ‘adults’.

  48. 48.

    John Cole

    May 7, 2008 at 1:39 am

    I can’t sleep, I am so excited.

    John +2 (and wine at 1:30 sucks)

  49. 49.

    firebrand

    May 7, 2008 at 1:45 am

    There’s one thing to remember about all of this, people. Remember in all those horror films where the good guy manages to kill the evil slasher, and then he/she creeps up on the bad guy to see if he/she is dead, and the bad guy jumps up for one last attack? THAT is where we are now. Take nothing for granted here, everyone. I’m only going to breathe a sigh of relief once Hillary’s given an official concession speech.

  50. 50.

    Ninerdave

    May 7, 2008 at 1:52 am

    NBC calls it for Hillary.

  51. 51.

    Cain

    May 7, 2008 at 1:53 am

    Looks like kos linked to BJ then crashed it. oops! :-)

    cain

  52. 52.

    Ninerdave

    May 7, 2008 at 1:54 am

    wine at 1:30 sucks

    Just starting at 1:30? Yeah. That sucks. I’d recommend NyQuil.

  53. 53.

    John Cole

    May 7, 2008 at 1:57 am

    http://hillaryis404.org/

    Awesome on so many levels.

  54. 54.

    r€nato

    May 7, 2008 at 2:02 am

    f’in brilliant.

  55. 55.

    isit2009yet

    May 7, 2008 at 2:05 am

    http://hillaryis404.org/

    Awesome on so many levels.

    Beautiful…

  56. 56.

    myiq2xu

    May 7, 2008 at 2:08 am

    Obama said Indiana was the tiebreaker. He lost.

    When will he be giving his concession speech?

    BTW – Nighty-nite cbear!

  57. 57.

    r€nato

    May 7, 2008 at 2:09 am

    it kinda figures that someone who can’t do the math on the gas tax holiday, also can’t do the math on the delegate count.

  58. 58.

    Ninerdave

    May 7, 2008 at 2:15 am

    Since Myiq and Pluk come and shit all over threads here I thought I’d return the favor.

    Is it just me, or are the Hillary sites locked down pretty hard. I’ve been banned from TalkLeft within 10 minutes, Hillaryis44 requires an account AND they moderate comments. Taylor Marsh wants an account and I know MyDD bans. This is what I’d expect from RedState, not really a Dem blog.

    I don’t see that here, or Kos (although I guess people can get heavy with the troll rating), or Bennen (although he doesn’t seem to attract the fanbois).

    Just throwing that out there before bed.

  59. 59.

    r€nato

    May 7, 2008 at 2:21 am

    This is what I’d expect from RedState, not really a Dem blog.

    indeed. Not exactly the kind of behavior which would dispel the notion that Hillary is Republican-lite.

    Thank goodness Obama won. I would have gritted my teeth and voted for Hillary W. Clinton in the general, but man that would have been tough.

  60. 60.

    r€nato

    May 7, 2008 at 2:28 am

    Repair list for party (5.00 / 3) (#9)
    by Stellaaa on Wed May 07, 2008 at 01:57:49 AM EST
    Change rules to winner take all.
    Eliminate Super delegates.
    Eliminate caucuses.

    OK, I can see rationales for #2 and #3, but winner-take-all? That’s an awful, very Republican idea. Democrats didn’t seem to think winner-take-all Electoral College was a bright idea in 2000; why would it be a bright idea as a way to choose our nominee???

    Throw the baby out with the bathwater because they didn’t get their way. I hope these folks come to their senses before long. It’s not like Joe Lieberman got the nomination. Obama will be a fine candidate; he’s just not the candidate they would have preferred.

  61. 61.

    neil

    May 7, 2008 at 2:29 am

    Even if you create an account Taylor Marsh won’t let you post.

  62. 62.

    Gemina13

    May 7, 2008 at 2:41 am

    Calling the posters on HillaryIs44.com and MyDD crybabies is really an insult to many babies. At least when they cry, you can be sure of three things: they’re wet/soiled, hungry, or sleepy.

    Over on Kos, there are a couple of diarists–Hillary supporters–demanding that Obama supporters plead and beg them to support BO as the Democratic nominee. Not, “OK, it’s been a bloody primary, our candidate lost, so we’ll support whoever wins the nomination.” But, “Our candidate lost, and we hate you for winning the battle, so suck on our left nuts until we feel like voting for the candidate NOT running for Bush’s third term.”

    I’ll happily reach out to any Hillary supporter, considering I was ready to vote for her last November. However, I kiss ass for no one. If that’s what these morons on Kos, HI44 and MyDD want, they can bend over and plant one on their own back cheeks, especially if they get McCain elected.

  63. 63.

    Zuzu

    May 7, 2008 at 2:44 am

    Fucking lunatics..

    I’d guess they and the ones like them live in all-blue or all-red states and feel they can afford their cheap grandstanding.

    Either that or they never loved their country.

  64. 64.

    Rick Taylor

    May 7, 2008 at 2:46 am

    Who are you on Talk Left, Niner Dave?

  65. 65.

    Zuzu

    May 7, 2008 at 2:49 am

    I am so looking forward to watching McCain and the entire GOP wind up with pony hoof prints on their foreheads.

    Well, if McCain stands by his pledge to refrain from smear tactics, I look forward to a race run on the issues. I said IF.

  66. 66.

    Martin

    May 7, 2008 at 2:50 am

    Winner take all is a terrible idea. It essentially boils down to rule by majority class.

    Mississippi is almost 40% black and still has the stainless banner on the flag. Votes GOP reliably. That 40% has virtually no voice in national politics.

    What I would like to see is an electorate map drawn up. One with proportionate population rules identical to the district map except that each electorate district must be split evenly across three congressional districts. Win the electorate district, win the electoral vote. Throw some add-ons for state wins – maybe 2 to represent each senate seat. That’s a 20-ish % electorate vote bump for statewide wins.

    Now you have an electoral map that is fuck-all hard to gerrymander because selling out a congressional district will probably cost you an electoral vote and vice versa. Plus, it forces you to campaign nationally.

  67. 67.

    r€nato

    May 7, 2008 at 2:57 am

    Well, if McCain stands by his pledge to refrain from smear tactics

    Shit, you know how that is going to go, don’t you? We have seen it already. McCain surrogate says Obama is a secret Muslim or reminds everyone of his middle name, McCain disavows slur/smear. Lather, rinse, repeat.

    “I condemn any attempt to associate my opponent with TERRORISTS! Just because his middle name is HUSSEIN, it doesn’t mean HE IS A TERRORIST!“

  68. 68.

    Martin

    May 7, 2008 at 3:00 am

    McCain stands by his pledge to refrain from smear tactics

    McCain will. Every other GOP won’t. And McCain will get bonus points for reminding the rest of the GOP that it’s bad form to call Obama a nigger.

  69. 69.

    John Cole

    May 7, 2008 at 3:02 am

    I am just going to throw this out there that insomnia blows.

    I have been trying to fall asleep for four hours, and am now in the desparation phase, where I plead and make deals to just fall asleep do I can get a few hours before I have to wake up.

  70. 70.

    Martin

    May 7, 2008 at 3:04 am

    I think tomorrow will be the day:

    The king of the pundits, Mark Halperin, drops a tantalizing hint about General Wes Clark, a strong Clinton supporter and fellow Arkansan:

    “The biggest question: Will any of her supporters (including Wes Clark) say publicly or privately she should quit?”

    We like General Clark here at AMERICAblog, and have a bit of a history with him. In fact, we’ve heard that Clark did call Hillary tonight, telling her it’s time to quit. Perhaps the general’s most dangerous mission to date.

  71. 71.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 7, 2008 at 3:05 am

    Boy, I leave town for a few days and look what happens. Obama is still winning, and he wins some more. Go figure. ;)

    I have missed out on harassing the regular asshats here, but we have been having so much fun on our travels that I have stayed away from the computer since we took off last week. I only got on tonight because we are taking off tomorrow and heading to La Pine, Oregon for the evening and then off to home the next day.

    I am glad to see that IN was close and NC was a clear win! A win in IN would have been nicer, but this is still a good result for Obama. Hillary needs to graciously exit, stage right, now. I know that she is not dropping out yet, but she knows it is over for her.

    Now its time to watch Obama play roadrunner to McPain’s coyote. I am sure the right will be hauling out their Acme hardware to stop Obama, and I hope he is as successful at stopping them as the roadrunner has been.

    And with the same spectacular results… ;)

  72. 72.

    El Doh

    May 7, 2008 at 3:06 am

    TalkLeft’s full of people claiming Obama’s a stealth Republican who is about to pick a Republican running mate. He’s also apparently completely unelectable as only Liberal Elites and Black people vote for him.

    If he were to someone be elected — which can’t happen because, of course, he is unelectable — he will destroy social security and do all sorts of other heinous yet unspecified acts, though.

    Oh, and several won’t vote for him because Florida and Michigan didn’t count soon enough (?) — can someone explain the logic to that to me, please, given no-one will actually be seated until August?

    The other head-exploding excuses for not voting for Obama is “he’s a loser” and he’s run an incredibly dirty campaign full of misogyny and right wing talking points(!) — apparently, Hillary was too nice, held back far too much instead of REALLY going for the jugular.

    It makes MyDD look sane.

  73. 73.

    Martin

    May 7, 2008 at 3:06 am

    I have been trying to fall asleep for four hours, and am now in the desparation phase, where I plead and make deals to just fall asleep do I can get a few hours before I have to wake up.

    TiVo Tip: When I need an afternoon nap I turn on Wolf Blitzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  74. 74.

    Zuzu

    May 7, 2008 at 3:14 am

    Look at the Supreme Court and tell me you’d rather have McCain appointing the next 2 or 3 justices, rather than a Democrat. Say that with a straight face.

    I had a little hope that McCain would be moderate on the score, ’till I saw this.

    WaPo

    Now that I think about it, I guess it was all too predictable. The guy has absolutely no sense of shame left.

  75. 75.

    John Cole

    May 7, 2008 at 3:14 am

    Fuck them all.

    Compare speeches. If you can not figure out why Barack givesyou an opportunity to vote for someone rather than voting for Clinton to vote against McCain, you are an idiot.

    They will come around. Barack is a good man.

  76. 76.

    Jon H

    May 7, 2008 at 3:20 am

    “At least the Hillaryis44 people are admitting that they’re really Republicans. Some honestly coming out of them for a change.”

    Ya know, the Bushies were awfully fond of playing up the 41/43 thing. I don’t recall Democrats ever particularly fetishizing the numbers that way.

  77. 77.

    Zuzu

    May 7, 2008 at 3:21 am

    Compare speeches. If you can not figure out why Barack givesyou an opportunity to vote for someone rather than voting for Clinton to vote against McCain, you are an idiot.

    They will come around. Barack is a good man.

    Compare speeches, smeeches. The guy will wrassle ‘gators in the White House.

    Top Ten Barack Obama Campaign Promises

  78. 78.

    Zuzu

    May 7, 2008 at 3:26 am

    I have been trying to fall asleep for four hours, and am now in the desparation phase, where I plead and make deals to just fall asleep do I can get a few hours before I have to wake up.

    Lie in a quiet, dark or semi-dark room (duh). Count your breaths, up to 10. Then again. And again.

    Never fails for me.

    Good luck.

  79. 79.

    Jon H

    May 7, 2008 at 3:38 am

    Why does HillaryIs404.org show a picture of a shar-pei?

  80. 80.

    Jon H

    May 7, 2008 at 3:44 am

    My theory on why the media is giving up now: they are pathetic superstitious creatures, and are following the ‘omen’ of the Clinton-backed filly at the Kentucky Derby losing to ‘Big Brown’, and then being euthanized.

    Which I actually do find kinda freaky. The only way for random events to more completely suggest the universe giving her the finger would be if she had woken up Monday morning with a pattern of huge pimples on her forehead spelling out “QUIT, DAMN YOU!”.

  81. 81.

    firebrand

    May 7, 2008 at 4:19 am

    myiq:

    Hillary said NC would be the game changer. She lost.

    When will she come out and admit that the campaign’s over?

  82. 82.

    PeterJ

    May 7, 2008 at 4:27 am

    I have been trying to fall asleep for four hours, and am now in the desparation phase, where I plead and make deals to just fall asleep do I can get a few hours before I have to wake up.

    Don’t watch any coverage of Clinton before going to sleep. You’ll have a hard time falling asleep and when you finally do, you’ll have nightmares.

  83. 83.

    PeterJ

    May 7, 2008 at 4:32 am

    Clinton is this year’s version of Nader from 2004, only still running because of the support of republicans that want the democratic candidate to fail.

  84. 84.

    Paul Weimer

    May 7, 2008 at 4:41 am

    I am just going to throw this out there that insomnia blows.

    I have been trying to fall asleep for four hours, and am now in the desparation phase, where I plead and make deals to just fall asleep do I can get a few hours before I have to wake up.

    It does truly suck, John. Been there, done that, have t-shirts.

    The day after at work is the real killer. Every hour feels like a year in purgatory.

  85. 85.

    Phoebe

    May 7, 2008 at 4:59 am

    John,
    Have you tried a bit of melatonin with your wine? I have found that combination to be very effective but you need to do it earlier than now – try it tomorrow at the time that you’d actually want to go to bed.

    Also, the more exercise you get in a day, the easier sleep will come.

  86. 86.

    bago

    May 7, 2008 at 5:12 am

    Now drop and give me platitudes.

  87. 87.

    jake

    May 7, 2008 at 5:23 am

    What’s all this about “over,” doc?

    The outcome caused the candidate and her campaign to intensify their efforts to persuade party leaders to include the results of disqualified contests in Michigan and Florida, both of which she won. The Democratic National Committee’s Rules and Bylaws committee is scheduled to meet on May 31 to consider two challenges pending on whether, and how, to seat delegates from those states.

    …

    Campaign officials said they would remind superdelegates that Indiana was a state that Obama aimed to win early on and at one point described as a tiebreaker in the race. They also said the results showed that Clinton continued to gain the support of the white, working-class voters they contend will be key to winning Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and other swing states in November.

    This is why I don’t feel sorry for her ass.

  88. 88.

    bago

    May 7, 2008 at 5:23 am

    Also, Ambien. If you fail to sleep you at least get a half assed lsd style trip out of it. Not battering your GABA pathways pays off.

  89. 89.

    bago

    May 7, 2008 at 5:29 am

    And Mass Effect. Buy it.

  90. 90.

    jake

    May 7, 2008 at 5:34 am

    My fellow BJers, today I renew my calls for John Cole to take his ass to doctor before he drops dead.

    Seriously man, when you’re not begging Morpheus to hit you with a sock full of sand you’ve got some sort of creeping crud.

    Do you want to be laid up when Hillary cracks and runs after Obama screaming “NO WIRE HANGERS!!”

    Do ya?

  91. 91.

    Davis X. Machina

    May 7, 2008 at 5:35 am

    If this is the end, then the last two and a half months have been a Clinton-fueled fairy tale, which is basically a white-hot lie about the nomination campaign.

    .

    Give Chris Bowers credit — change ‘white-hot lie’ to ‘fairly accurate summary’ and it’s on the nose.

  92. 92.

    Genine

    May 7, 2008 at 5:38 am

    John Cole Says:

    I am just going to throw this out there that insomnia blows.

    I have been trying to fall asleep for four hours, and am now in the desparation phase, where I plead and make deals to just fall asleep do I can get a few hours before I have to wake up.

    I gave up. I’m just going to work early and coming home early to nap.

  93. 93.

    NickM

    May 7, 2008 at 5:51 am

    C’mon – wasn’t everyone looking forward to Hillary campaigning in West Virginia and Kentucky? Can’t you just see her taking a slug of corn squeezins from a jug at the end of every speech and saying “Ooooh – White Lightnin'” like the George Jones song?

  94. 94.

    John Cole

    May 7, 2008 at 6:12 am

    My fellow BJers, today I renew my calls for John Cole to take his ass to doctor before he drops dead.

    I have talked to a doctor, and there is nothing they can do as my insomnia is so sporadic. I have a bout where I do not sleep for one or two nights every 3-6 months, then I sleep like a damned baby the other 6 months. And when I say sleep like a baby, I mean I fall asleep within 2-3 minutes of my head hitting the pillow.

    That is what makes these bouts so frustrating. Plus, I walked 4 miles and did 40 minutes on the exericse bike yesterday. Pisses me off.

  95. 95.

    Mary

    May 7, 2008 at 6:18 am

    John, did you walk indoors or outdoors? And can you get a real bike and try going outside? I find that if I take my exercise indoors only, versus getting outside and seeing the world change as I move, it makes a real difference to my energy levels and state of relaxation.

  96. 96.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    May 7, 2008 at 6:27 am

    Look at the Supreme Court and tell me you’d rather have McCain appointing the next 2 or 3 justices, rather than a Democrat.

    Honestly, I can’t imagine Hillary would do a better job there than McCain. Why shouldn’t I think that if a bunch of Republicans started telling her what an awesome justice John Yoo would be, she’d just go along to get along like with the gas tax holiday?

    What I won’t be able to stand, however, is a politician as corrupt, self-serving, conniving, lying, and america-hating as Senator Barack Hussein Obama sitting in the Oval Office

    These people are a stone’s throw from denouncing the “reality-based community”.

  97. 97.

    4tehlulz

    May 7, 2008 at 6:32 am

    Let the Hilltards Republicans whine. It will make teh MUP’s victory in November all the sweeter.

  98. 98.

    nightjar

    May 7, 2008 at 7:02 am

    I have a bout where I do not sleep for one or two nights every 3-6 months, then I sleep like a damned baby the other 6 months. And when I say sleep like a baby, I mean I fall asleep within 2-3 minutes of my head hitting the pillow.

    Normal.

    Dr. Nightjar, Acme School of Medicine

  99. 99.

    PaulB

    May 7, 2008 at 7:15 am

    McCain will.

    Nope. He’s already broken his “pledge” when he trumpeted far and wide that Obama was the choice of Hamas.

  100. 100.

    John Cole

    May 7, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Genine, you don’t answer your email, do you?

  101. 101.

    Genine

    May 7, 2008 at 9:04 am

    John Cole Says:

    Genine, you don’t answer your email, do you?

    Yes, I do. :P

  102. 102.

    Zuzu

    May 7, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    It does truly suck, John. Been there, done that, have t-shirts.

    The day after at work is the real killer. Every hour feels like a year in purgatory.

    I’ve always been a bit of a night owl, but am convinced all those years of doing my schoolwork once my kid went to sleep affected my metabolism. I tend to get my second wind around 9 pm.

    Yes, the day after is heck on wheels, worse because you tend to amp up on caffeine which only makes you more restless later. Me anyway.

    Howsomever…now that I’m retired I find a sort of naughty thrill in staying up late and sleeping in. Yes, I am turning into a geezer.

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