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You are here: Home / Popular Culture / How Do You Argue In Good Faith With These People?

How Do You Argue In Good Faith With These People?

by John Cole|  May 15, 20082:59 pm| 96 Comments

This post is in: Popular Culture, General Stupidity

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Via the Impolitic, this:

During the trial, which was held in Panama City yesterday and today, Ponce de Leon High School’s principal David Davis admitted under oath that he had banned students from wearing any clothing or symbols supporting equal rights for gay people. Davis also testified that he believed rainbows were “sexually suggestive” and would make students unable to study because they’d be picturing gay sex acts in their mind. The principal went on to admit that while censoring rainbows and gay pride messages he allowed students to wear other symbols many find controversial, such as the Confederate flag.

Not to sound like a broken record, but WTF?


Do I make you horny, baby?

Seriously. How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

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  1. 1.

    Andrew

    May 15, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    How’d that snail get into the hola fruta?

  2. 2.

    Davis X. Machina

    May 15, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    How can you get a principal’s certificate and not at least have heard of Tinker v. Des Moines, if not actually read it.

    In any event, when I was a teenager, everything made me think of sex, if not necessarily gay sex.

  3. 3.

    pharniel

    May 15, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    same people who fired a guy for wizardry.

    backwards ass motherfuckers running around this country.

    stupid backwards ass motherfuckers, so you can’t even educate them.

  4. 4.

    Kevin

    May 15, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Nice to see a school where the students are likely more mature then the principal.

  5. 5.

    kid bitzer

    May 15, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    at the same time, he does get one thing right:

    the confederate flag never makes anyone think about sex.

  6. 6.

    Zifnab

    May 15, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    I’m going to suggest that Mrs David Davis go checking through her husband’s credit card statements and dresser drawers. After seeing the long line of closeted homophobes in the Republican Party, me thinks the principal protests a bit too much.

    Does staring up at the sky after a thunder shower make you horny, Principal Davis? Do you find yourself drawn to the boy’s locker room just to… you know… hang out? GayPrincipalStillInTheClosetSayWhat?

  7. 7.

    Seitz

    May 15, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    I think the press release got this part wrong. Let me fix it:

    Davis also testified that he believed rainbows were “sexually suggestive” and would make students him unable to study work because they’d he’d be picturing gay sex acts in their his mind.

    Something tells me, however, that he already kinda likes to picture gay sex acts in his mind.

  8. 8.

    libarbarian

    May 15, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    How can you look at that snail and NOT think of sexy young naked boys.

  9. 9.

    Incertus

    May 15, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Seriously. How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    You don’t. You just mock them mercilessly, and play “It’s Raining Men” at the loudest possible volume.

  10. 10.

    Apsaras

    May 15, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    12 And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: 13 I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14 Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15 I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16 Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”

    17 So God said to Noah, “This is the sign that I am totally coming on to you, Noah. Me, you look so hot in those wet robes.”

  11. 11.

    cleek

    May 15, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    the confederate flag never makes anyone think about sex.

    oh yeah?

  12. 12.

    libarbarian

    May 15, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Seriously, that MAD TV sketch totally captures today’s movement conservatives. Replace “Sexy Young Naked Boys” with “Scary Muslim Terrorists” or “Godless Leftwing Anti-Americans” or pretty much any other boogeyman and it just describes a slightly different wing of the party.

  13. 13.

    jack fate

    May 15, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Seriously. How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    You don’t. Mock them instead.

    And yes, that snail turned me on.

  14. 14.

    wvng

    May 15, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    I can guarantee you where he gets his information. Conservapedia’s Statistics page – the gift that keeps on giving:

    Most viewed pages
    Main Page‎ [2,660,007]
    Homosexuality‎ [2,400,797]
    Wikipedia‎ [395,922]
    Arguments Against Homosexuality‎ [333,025]
    Homosexual Agenda‎ [332,971]
    Ex-homosexuals‎ [317,848]
    Homosexuality and choice‎ [312,265]
    Examples of Bias in Wikipedia‎ [294,971]
    Homosexuality and Health‎ [293,177]
    Theory of Evolution‎ [288,221]

    And yes it’s always about the same. Nothing about anal sex and cancer today, though. That’s unusual. And they seem to be moving more and more into what’s wrong with Wikipeida. Used to be all the top 9 (excluding the home page) were “teh gay.”

  15. 15.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    May 15, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Zifnab Says:

    I’m going to suggest that Mrs David Davis go checking through her husband’s credit card statements and dresser drawers. After seeing the long line of closeted homophobes in the Republican Party, me thinks the principal protests a bit too much.

    Does staring up at the sky after a thunder shower make you horny, Principal Davis? Do you find yourself drawn to the boy’s locker room just to… you know… hang out? GayPrincipalStillInTheClosetSayWhat?

    May 15th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Exactly. I’m betting this guy wears two wetsuits.

  16. 16.

    Zifnab

    May 15, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    the confederate flag never makes anyone think about sex.

    oh yeah?

    I’d be Nothernly Aggressive all over that.

  17. 17.

    ThymeZone

    May 15, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Well here we are again with Jerry Falwell and the Teletubbies promoting the Gay Agenda.

    Look, we have to face facts. A certain percentage of people in this country are ignorant morons. We can’t make them go away, and we can’t shut them up.

    So our calling is to out perform them. Outpersuade them, out politic them, outvote them, outgovern them.

    We’ve seen how they govern, and they have given us a great opportunity to capitalize on their failures, this year.

    Let’s seize that opportunity and take the country away from them, and then work to earn the right to keep it away from them.

  18. 18.

    Brachiator

    May 15, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Seriously. How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    Why do you think that Kermit the Frog sings about “The Rainbow Connection?”

    Talk about yer subliminal messages….

  19. 19.

    zmulls

    May 15, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    I just got fired for looking at that snail online….

  20. 20.

    johhny rotten

    May 15, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Not trying to jack the thread, but I respect the opinion of people who comment here, and I have a question.

    Could Lieberman be the GOP VP? I was reading his remarks today about Obama being a terrorist appeaser, and it really struck me how weird that was – what’s this asshole’s point? And I think he really wants another shot at the VP.

    He actually scares me more than anybody, because I could see this kind of “unity” ticket having some pull in the suburbs. Fuck.

  21. 21.

    NickM

    May 15, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    I think you’ve just found the site mascot. All he needs is nickname.

  22. 22.

    Wilfred

    May 15, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Let’s seize that opportunity and take the country away from them, and then work to earn the right to keep it away from them.

    These words, and the entire comment, should be used in a campaign ad for Barack. Well said.

  23. 23.

    zmulls

    May 15, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Then of course, there’s this classic insinuative dialogue from SPARTACUS, by blacklisted screenwriter Dalton Trumbo.

    In this scene, sensitive poet Tony Curtis washes the manly Laurence Olivier in a steamy bath:

    Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you eat oysters?
    Antoninus: When I have them, master.
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you eat snails?
    Antoninus: No, master.
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: Do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral and the eating of snails to be immoral?
    Antoninus: No, master.
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: Of course not. It is all a matter of taste, isn’t it?
    Antoninus: Yes, master.
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: And taste is not the same as appetite, and therefore not a question of morals.
    Antoninus: It could be argued so, master.
    Marcus Licinius Crassus: My robe, Antoninus. My taste includes both snails and oysters.

    *Now* look at that snail and tell me it doesn’t make you think of Teh Gay.

  24. 24.

    Halteclere

    May 15, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    I’d be Nothernly Aggressive all over that.

    I’d start North and work my way South…

  25. 25.

    The Critic

    May 15, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Yeah, I’ll go with the consensus here that anyone who goes out and admits that he thinks rainbows will make kids think of gay sex is engaging in a little projection. People most often want to ban what is most tempting to themselves. As someone once remarked, the only people who think about gay sex as much as homophobes are gay people.

  26. 26.

    Tlazolteotl

    May 15, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    What ‘unity ticket’? Joe is no longer a Democrat.

  27. 27.

    Calouste

    May 15, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    I’m surprised they didn’t start by changing the name of the school. Ponce?

  28. 28.

    Keith

    May 15, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    True story: until I was in college, I thought the rainbow sticker on cars indicated support for the Rainbow Coalition, even though the sticker & the driver didn’t seem to go together.

  29. 29.

    Seitz

    May 15, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    I think you’ve just found the site mascot. All he needs is nickname.

    And a Steelers helmet. And maybe a beer.

  30. 30.

    Dreggas

    May 15, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    Zifnab Says:

    I’d be Nothernly Aggressive all over that.

    something in her south would be burning after my sherman went through…well…wait a sec, if it’s burning it’s a bad thing.

  31. 31.

    Ned Raggett

    May 15, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    In any event, when I was a teenager, everything made me think of sex, if not necessarily gay sex.

    Quite right. And sometimes, there’s a story where the first paragraph puts me right back in those times.

  32. 32.

    Tax Analyst

    May 15, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    johhny rotten Says:

    Not trying to jack the thread, but I respect the opinion of people who comment here, and I have a question.

    Could Lieberman be the GOP VP? I was reading his remarks today about Obama being a terrorist appeaser, and it really struck me how weird that was – what’s this asshole’s point? And I think he really wants another shot at the VP.

    Only if he wore a wetsuit.

  33. 33.

    phobos

    May 15, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    And a Steelers helmet. And maybe a beer.

    Snaily McRainbow.

  34. 34.

    Scrutinizer

    May 15, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Marci Milfs went to Urban Outfitters to find clothes for her teenage son.

    Oh, no way that story’s real. Either that, or Marci has a lot of problems with her last name.

  35. 35.

    Jay in Oregon

    May 15, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    Quite right. And sometimes, there’s a story where the first paragraph puts me right back in those times.

    No way.

    *rubs eyes*

    There’s no FUCKING way you found a story where the prudish mom’s last name is “Milfs”.

  36. 36.

    Jay in Oregon

    May 15, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Wow, Scrutinizer ninja’ed me.

  37. 37.

    SamFromUtah

    May 15, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    the only people who think about gay sex as much as homophobes are gay people and can’t admit it to themselves.

    Fixed.

  38. 38.

    libarbarian

    May 15, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    taste is not the same as appetite,

    Wow. That is more profound than it appears at first site.

  39. 39.

    libarbarian

    May 15, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    sight. Duh

  40. 40.

    Ned Raggett

    May 15, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Friend actually found it first and posted the link in a similar ‘oh you might find this interesting.’ I clicked, read the name and nearly choked on my iced tea.

    Frankly, the fact that it’s written by one Scott Pesznecker is even worse. This whole thing is a Judd Apatow movie waiting to happen.

  41. 41.

    wobbly

    May 15, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Rainbows make me think of Jesse Jackson. Banning them is RACIST!

  42. 42.

    Halteclere

    May 15, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Along I30 somewhere between Dallas and Texarkana there is someone’s ranch on the north side of the road, called the “Rainbow Ranch”. The marque spanning the entrance if of a large rainbow and includes the designation of the military division that I assume the owner was a part of.

    I always wonder: was the owner a “don’t ask, don’t tell” kind of soldier, or, for the past 40 years, has he been pissed that his ranch’s symbpl has been co-opted? (Or maybe he doesn’t even care).

  43. 43.

    Dreggas

    May 15, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    How does one reason with these people?

  44. 44.

    Ted

    May 15, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Used to be all the top 9 (excluding the home page) were “teh gay.”

    You’d think they’d take down that popular page meter. It’s quite embarrassing for them.

  45. 45.

    protected static

    May 15, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    He’s probably a vet of the 42nd Infantry.

  46. 46.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    May 15, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Could Lieberman be McThuselah’s running mate? I guess it’s possible, but I wouldn’t put real money on it. There are plenty of genuine Republicans who would boast wider appeal (not to mention exhibit an obvious pulse).

    I mean, seriously, can you picture a ticket that screams “old and tired” more than McThuselah/Lieberman?

  47. 47.

    Fledermaus

    May 15, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    Ask them if they like gladiator films?

  48. 48.

    Perry Como

    May 15, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Things that make principal David Davis think of gay sex:
    – Rainbows
    – Triangles
    – Things colored like a rainbow
    – Rainbow colored triangles!
    – The guy he’s sucking off in a public park restroom

  49. 49.

    Halteclere

    May 15, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    protected static Says:

    He’s probably a vet of the 42nd Infantry.

    Ah – that’s it. I recognize the logo and the “42nd” now.

  50. 50.

    libarbarian

    May 15, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    The guy he’s sucking off in a public park restroom

    Or the guy who is sucking him off.

    Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?

  51. 51.

    CapMidnight

    May 15, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Ask them if they like gladiator films?

    I like movies set in women’s prisms.

  52. 52.

    cleek

    May 15, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Could Lieberman be the GOP VP?

    he’s said multiple times that he’s not interested in the job. and certainly being a swing senator is a more powerful position than VP.

    but, you never know…

  53. 53.

    Punchy

    May 15, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    OT:

    Can we argue with the AP?

    Headline on MSNBC:

    House rejects Iraq war funding bill

    Sounds like the Dems hate the troops, right? Now read the first few lines:

    The House on Thursday passed a Democratic plan sharply boosting education benefits for Iraq-Afghanistan veterans and awarding people whose unemployment benefits have expired with a 13-week extension.

    I ask yet again…what in the FUCK is going on? Passing a bill is now rejecting that bill? Wha?

  54. 54.

    ThymeZone

    May 15, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    being a schwing senator is a more powerful position than VP.

    Adjusted to comply with the theme of the thread.

  55. 55.

    Tsulagi

    May 15, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Seriously. How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    Seriously, what possibly leads you to believe you could given that level of stupid. These are the same people who nod knowingly when one of their chief Deciders of Family Values proclaims SpongeBob a stealth icon promoting a gay orgy lifestyle. Some people you’re just never going to reach. Your only hope is that Darwin can.

  56. 56.

    Andrew

    May 15, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Now look at that snail and tell me it doesn’t make you think of Teh Gay.

    I don’t think I will ever see snails in a heterosexual manner again.

  57. 57.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    May 15, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    This is the most amazing Hardball I’ve ever seen. Finally someone calls the right-wing noise machine out. I’ve sat through some pretty piss-poor television for a long time to witness that.

  58. 58.

    Blue Buddha

    May 15, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Punchy Says:

    Can we argue with the AP?

    Headline on MSNBC:

    House rejects Iraq war funding bill

    Sounds like the Dems hate the troops, right? Now read the first few lines:

    The House on Thursday passed a Democratic plan sharply boosting education benefits for Iraq-Afghanistan veterans and awarding people whose unemployment benefits have expired with a 13-week extension.

    I ask yet again…what in the FUCK is going on? Passing a bill is now rejecting that bill? Wha?
    May 15th, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    The headline is quite deceptive, because they don’t get to that point until the 4th paragraph:

    It comes on the heels of the unexpected defeat of a $163 billion bill covering the costs of funding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Republicans withheld support for the funding measure in protest of Democratic tactics. That kills the war funding for now, but it’ll be revived next week in the Senate.

  59. 59.

    Demdude

    May 15, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Just watched Chris Matthews shut down a Bushie. The Asshat kept going on and on about a appeasement. Matthews asked him to explain what Neville Chamberlin did wrong before WWII. The bushie couldn’t explain what it was.

    Matthews can be a clown most of the time, but this was entertaining.

  60. 60.

    Rick Taylor

    May 15, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Actually, people who argue rainbows will make people think of gay sex are downright reasonable compared to people who can’t handle basic math. At No Quarter, they’re posting that Hillary wins the nomination if the super-delegates vote as the Obama campaign has argued they should.

    Larry has been chomping at the bit to get this posted! And now it is! LARRY JOHNSON KNOWS that this means that the Obama campaign — by its own metrics — has awarded the nomination, if done fairly, to HILLARY CLINTON.

    You see, if the super-delegates support the choice of the voters in their state, according their spread sheets Clinton will beat Obama by 2 super-delegates! Even more if you count Michigan and Florida. Therefore, by the Obama campaign’s own rhetoric, the nomination should be Hillary’s. If they’d ever argued that pledged delegates ought to be ignored, which of course they haven’t.

    I’ll be interested to see if this argument gets picked up by other pro-Hillary sites.

  61. 61.

    Jess

    May 15, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    I like movies set in women’s prisms.

    I’ve never heard it called that before…

  62. 62.

    Punchy

    May 15, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    The headline is quite deceptive, because they don’t get to that point until the 4th paragraph:

    Thanks. In my rage, I missed that. Pretty important, natch.

    /blushes

  63. 63.

    b. hussein canuckistani

    May 15, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    I have a theory that Seinfeld will do more than anyone else to destigmatize the ghey in the minds of upcoming generations. In the past, when two hulking, muscular Florida football players are confronted by homosexuality, the expected response was violent revulsion. Now, it can be laughed off with a clever catch phrase “Not that there’s anything wrong with that!”. Let them hear it often enough and they may start to believe it, or at least not be threatened by it.

    Principal Goofball is fighting a losing battle.

  64. 64.

    Blue Buddha

    May 15, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Demdude Says:

    Just watched Chris Matthews shut down a Bushie. The Asshat kept going on and on about a appeasement. Matthews asked him to explain what Neville Chamberlin did wrong before WWII. The bushie couldn’t explain what it was.

    Matthews can be a clown most of the time, but this was entertaining.
    May 15th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    Yeah, Matthews has veered left again in the past month or so. In the past year or so, he’s been bouncing all over the place between kissing Bush’s ass and bashing him. I think it’s because he’s been hanging out more often with Olbermann lately.

  65. 65.

    Jess

    May 15, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Required reading for David Davis.

  66. 66.

    r€nato

    May 15, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Seriously. How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    Wear two wet suits and a dildo up the rear?

    As someone once remarked, the only people who think about gay sex as much as homophobes are gay people.

    My father is an ENORMOUS homophobe (at least when it comes to gay men… he would probably think lesbians getting it on is hot). He hates them with a passion. I am absolutely certain that if they announced tomorrow that the gays were going to be rounded up and put to death, he’d be OK with that. No joke.

    If it weren’t for the fact that he has a violent temper which I didn’t wish to provoke, I’ve long wanted to point out to him that if gay male sex disgusts him so much… he probably shouldn’t spend so much time thinking about it.

  67. 67.

    nightjar

    May 15, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Why do you think that Kermit the Frog sings about “The Rainbow Connection?”

    Talk about yer subliminal messages

    Davis went on with his repartee.

    I’ve suspected that little slippery amphibian for a while now. He’s not only maybe gay, but green as well. How anti-American can you get.

  68. 68.

    Genine

    May 15, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Dreggas Says:

    How does one reason with these people?

    You can’t. And what they’re doing really pisses me off. It’s bad in the blogsphere, but to spew that crap on television is just too much.

    The crap on the NARAL boards is disgusting and now they’re doing this.

    These crazies need some backlash of their own. They’ve become that which they fight against and I doubt they’d even see that.

    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful thing.

  69. 69.

    Grand Moff Texan

    May 15, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Davis also testified that he believed rainbows were “sexually suggestive” and would make students unable to study because they’d be picturing gay sex acts in their mind.

    Davis needs it in the ass. Now, and real hard.
    .

  70. 70.

    Dreggas

    May 15, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    Genine Says:

    Dreggas Says:

    How does one reason with these people?

    You can’t. And what they’re doing really pisses me off. It’s bad in the blogsphere, but to spew that crap on television is just too much.

    The crap on the NARAL boards is disgusting and now they’re doing this.

    These crazies need some backlash of their own. They’ve become that which they fight against and I doubt they’d even see that.

    Cognitive Dissonance is a powerful thing.

    I couldn’t start it myself, being only a card carrying member of va-jay-jays for America, but given the diaries on the GOS about the disgust with how NARAL was treated and the general disgust with, what I can only conclude, is the femi-nazi wing that supports Clinton and has been doing this shit it my behoove those so upset by these actions to start a counter argument/group of their own and unite…just a thought.

  71. 71.

    Dreggas

    May 15, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Genine

    Now they have an organization

  72. 72.

    Joshua Norton

    May 15, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Teh Stupid – it’s spreading!

  73. 73.

    ImJohnGalt

    May 15, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    I was reading his remarks today about Obama being a terrorist appeaser, and it really struck me how weird that was – what’s this asshole’s point? And I think he really wants another shot at the VP

    What’s really strange is that didn’t Barack endorse and campaign for Leiberman when Lamont was primary-ing against him, and wasn’t Leiberman Obama’s “mentor” as a freshman Senator?

    What an asshole Lieberman is.

  74. 74.

    binzinerator

    May 15, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    Davis also testified that he believed rainbows were “sexually suggestive” and would make students unable to study because they’d be picturing gay sex acts in their mind.

    In his mind, he means. Seriously, the sun comes through the clouds, the water vapor diffracts the light into its constitutent component wavelenghts, and we see a rainbow and think “Hey look! That’s so beautiful! A rainbow!”… and this guys sees the same rainbow and thinks “Hey look! That’s so sick! Faggots sucking each other!”

    WTF, indeed.

    the confederate flag never makes anyone think about sex.

    oh yeah?

    Goddammit. I clicked on it while at work. I shouldn’t have done it. I wasn’t thinking it through. I shoulda known better. Hell it was from Cleek. I did know better. Having a screen full of confederate flags is bad enough for the co-workers to see, but that AND swimsuit hotties? Hoo boy. No way to explain that that makes me look good.

    And oh yes this carpetbagger would bag her on the carpet. In a New York minute.

  75. 75.

    Bedlam UK

    May 15, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Best way to fix the country / world, take all the ‘safety’ labels off everything and let nature take its course.
    Death of the moron Society

    ‘warning; coffee is hot’
    ‘warning; wet floor is slippery’
    ‘warning; rainbows cause gay sex’

  76. 76.

    Dreggas

    May 15, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Davis also testified that he believed rainbow showers were “sexually suggestive” and would make students Him unable to study because they’d he’d be picturing gay sex acts dirty sanchez’s in their his mind.

    Fixed.

  77. 77.

    Brachiator

    May 15, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Fledermaus Says:

    How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    Ask them if they like gladiator films?

    There was an SCTV parody of Ben-Hur, which featured two Roman Centurions greeting each other with,

    “Hail, Gluteus!”

    “Hail, Maximus!”

    ThymeZone Says:

    being a schwing senator is a more powerful position than VP.

    Does this mean that California is now officially a schwing state?

    My father is an ENORMOUS homophobe (at least when it comes to gay men… he would probably think lesbians getting it on is hot).

    Does this make him a size anti-queen?

  78. 78.

    El Doh

    May 15, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    he’s said multiple times that he’s not interested in the job. and certainly being a swing senator is a more powerful position than VP.

    but, you never know…

    He’s said a lot of things that turned out to not be true, so I wouldn’t count that for much.

    His position of power is a most compelling argument, though if the Democrats get some spine and take his committee assignments away from him that would reduce his influence.

    Don’t see that happening though. Don’t see him being offered VP spot either, so it doesn’t really matter.

  79. 79.

    ImJohnGalt

    May 15, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    If the dems take a few Senate seats so that Leiberman’s vote is no longer the swing vote, I can certainly see him losing his committee assignments, especially with President Obama in the White House applying power to the Senate Leader to castrate his old mentor. Especially after bullshit like this.

    “So, how are you going to appease ME, Leiberman?”

  80. 80.

    The Briscoe Kid

    May 15, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Did you know that snails have both a penis and a vagina. And they’re into S&M. Seriously.

    Isabella Rosselini shows us how snails do it in Green P0rno

  81. 81.

    OriGuy

    May 15, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Leiberman is going to be working out of the Senate broom closet starting in 2009.

    As far as the gay marriage affecting the turnout in November, how many people will go to the polls to vote against teh gay that wouldn’t turn out to vote against that colored boy? Seems like there’s a lot of overlap in those constituencies.

  82. 82.

    DragonScholar

    May 15, 2008 at 6:06 pm

    How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    You can’t.

    That’s the point.

    These people do not want a discussion. Their views are irrational, and a rational action would challenge them. So they remain irrational.

    Thus they ignore you if you are rational, and if you ever act irrational, they’ll note how irrational you’re acting.

    Thus they refuse to work with you on intelligent, civil grounds, leaving ignoring them, going around them, or irrationality your only choice.

    Thus mockery, as noted, is as close as we can get to a rational discussion.

  83. 83.

    p.a.

    May 15, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    Damn you John Cole! That rainbow snail is making me obsess about mucous-enabled, gay and hermaphroditic (h.t. Briscoe Kid) mollusk sex.

    – p.z. meyers

  84. 84.

    Genine

    May 15, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    Dreggas Says:

    Genine

    Now they have an organization

    This shit is really making my blood boil. I try to be calm and reasonable whenever possible, but I’m ready to put my foot up the asses of some of these women.

  85. 85.

    Dreggas

    May 15, 2008 at 6:54 pm

    Genine Says:

    Dreggas Says:

    Genine

    Now they have an organization

    This shit is really making my blood boil. I try to be calm and reasonable whenever possible, but I’m ready to put my foot up the asses of some of these women.

    This is the stuff that ticks me off combined with the attacks on NARAL and the general ANYONE WHO DOESN’T SUPPORT HILLARY IS A TRAITOR TO THEIR GENDER! I get ticked about those who say anyone not voting for barrack is racist (though there is evidence given WV of racial factors in exit polls). I don’t believe all Clinton supporters are like this but the fact that these people would pull this is a disgrace.

    There was a diary over at the GOS by one saying they would vote for McCain and didn’t care about the Supreme Court because they were past the age to have children. They said they didn’t care about equal pay because they own their own business etc. etc. It was absolutely horrid.

  86. 86.

    Tsulagi

    May 15, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    Now that I’ve seen that rainbow snail a few more times, I’m becoming convinced it’s a lesbian. She’s starting to look hot. Nice curves.

  87. 87.

    HyperIon

    May 15, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    why don’t they change the name of the school first?

    ponce – a man who is effeminate in his manner and fussy in the way he dresses

  88. 88.

    HyperIon

    May 15, 2008 at 7:01 pm

    Calouste Says

    oops…ya beat me to it.
    (i searched for “ponce “, not “ponce”.)

  89. 89.

    Genine

    May 15, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    This is the stuff that ticks me off combined with the attacks on NARAL and the general ANYONE WHO DOESN’T SUPPORT HILLARY IS A TRAITOR TO THEIR GENDER! I get ticked about those who say anyone not voting for barrack is racist (though there is evidence given WV of racial factors in exit polls). I don’t believe all Clinton supporters are like this but the fact that these people would pull this is a disgrace.

    I’m with you there. I get pissed off about gender identity politics, just as I do about racial. It’s all bullshit! I am seriously thinking about using my new blog with some counter-measure. But I don’t know if I want to. I really have to think about it. I have to be calm and rational and right now I am pissed and rational. lol

    Like I said, these people are the very thing they fight against. But that makes sense when you really think about it.

  90. 90.

    Martin

    May 15, 2008 at 7:09 pm

    How do you engage in legitimate debate with people who think that rainbows make people think of gay sex?

    Because rainbows actually make the people you want to debate think of gay sex and they assume that applies to everyone else.

    Crazy people can be hard to diagnose because they just figure that everyone hears voices and there’s nothing wrong with them. I think a big hunk of the ‘family values’ crowd is the same way – they’re trying to protect everyone else from the weird shit that they almost exclusively suffer from.

  91. 91.

    grumpy realist

    May 15, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    Methinks the queen doth protesteth too much….

  92. 92.

    jake

    May 15, 2008 at 7:59 pm

    Davis also testified that he believed rainbows were “sexually suggestive” and would make students unable to study because they’d be picturing gay sex acts in their mind.

    Aaak! One of the uninitiated has discovered the Gay/Judy Garland connection. He must be destroyed.

    Jesus Two Stepping Christ. This shit is so stupid you’d have to break it down word by word to give the mocking it deserves. I bet he’s busily cutting California off all of the maps in the school.

  93. 93.

    Darkrose

    May 15, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    You just mock them mercilessly, and play “It’s Raining Men” at the loudest possible volume.

    Hallelujah!

  94. 94.

    protected static

    May 16, 2008 at 1:38 am

    As far as the gay marriage affecting the turnout in November, how many people will go to the polls to vote against teh gay that wouldn’t turn out to vote against that colored boy? Seems like there’s a lot of overlap in those constituencies.

    How much time have you spent among church-going blacks? Hell, even many non-church-going blacks… There’s a lot of resistance to gay rights among African Americans, some of it based in religion, some of it in the perception that gays are riding on the coattails of the civil rights movement, some of it in the particular tropes of black masculinity…

    That said, there’s a lot of support for gay marriage in CA, and it’s become less of a hot-button issue among many but the most rabid. Toss in Obama’s potential to deliver a large youth turnout where there’s a lot of support for gay rights overall, and it may turn out alright (he says, hoping he’s right).

  95. 95.

    protected static

    May 16, 2008 at 1:41 am

    (And I’m all in favor of vicious mockery myself, albeit with a slightly different soundtrack… There’s a time and place for rational engagement, and on the other hand there’s this crap. Mockery it is.)

    (cue up Thrill Kill Kult’s ‘Sex on the Flag’ cranked to 11)

  96. 96.

    Visceral

    May 16, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Rainbows make THEM think of gay sex, because as we’ve seen, an awful lot of these anti-gay types are into kinky gay sex when no-one’s looking.

    It’s like a lot of gay people themselves say: if you see gay, if you think gay, you are gay.

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