Good-bye, Vito. Yeah, we know. You need to spend time with your families.
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Good-bye, Vito. Yeah, we know. You need to spend time with your families.
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cleek
Q: are the people in OR the right kind of white working class people, or are the people in KY the right kind ?
Tara the anti-social social worker
Something tells me Vito’s families may not be so keen on spending more time with him.
dr. bloor
The Magic 8 Ball Sez: Check back later today. About 10 PM EDT.
4tehlulz
Michael fails again. He gave in to the troublemakers in the previous thread.
Appeaser.
flyerhawk
So it would seem that Hillary is a fan of Karl Rove…
She is now using RUMORS of Karl Rove’s analysis to make her case.
Wilfred
It’s nice to see KY jell and get behind Clinton.
4tehlulz
I see what you did there.
Don McArthur
‘families’ .. Oh, nicely done, that.
Throwin Stones
John,
Looking forward to the Finals – Wings VS Pens
Osgood looked good last night…
cleek
sorry, no can do.
who’s the goofball who scheduled a primary the same night as the American Idol finals ?
rachel
Karl Rove wants to help Hillary Clinton to the White House. Right.
Desperation sure can make people do (and say) stupid things.
Rick Taylor
From the Clinton campaign:
Josh Marshall notes:
Thank you so much, Hillary, for telling your supporters that Obama is slapping them in the face. That’s just what we need coming up into the next election.
ThymeZone
Karl Rove hearts Hillary. Hmm. Actually, when I heard Rove speak for himself recently, he sounded like an Obama fan to me. But that’s just me.
Meanwhile, thanks to vicious attacks of Rampant Sexism(c) Hillary claims that she has the most popular votes, which is what happens when Rampant Sexists(c) attack you, and therefore, she is just about toast, or something.
Not just toast, but a crostino.
Original Lee
In other news, it appears that Jack Evans, a DC council member who was also a pledged delegate for Clinton, told a crowd of people that he was endorsing Obama. He later clarified that he intends to vote for Clinton at the convention. (Heh.)
I think some of the Clinton pledged delegates are looking at Clinton’s little hints that pledged delegates are allowed to switch their votes in the first round of balloting and thinking real hard about voting for Obama instead. Another Failed Campaign Strategy (TM).
John S.
Hillary is a gender-baiter!
Nice choice of words that “slap in the face” is. I’m sure it did not go unnoticed.
Kevin
She’s trying to court World of Warcraft players.
flyerhawk
Over at TL, Armando is blasting Richard Cohen for some sort of sexism. I can’t really figure out what the sexism is but it isn’t really worth asking.
What I find amusing is that he feels completely comfortable calling Richard Cohen, Dick Cohen, in a obvious attempt at using a male specific slur. Apparently that’s ok.
Incertus
flyerhawk,
She probably heard that from No Quarter, which brought a whole new level of stupid to the park last night on that very idea. Between Rove’s conflict of interest since he works for McCain and his claim to “the math” which worked so well in 2006, I’d say his opinion on who the best candidate would be is more than a little suspect.
jake
The Live Story Developing banner at the top of the page:
‘Drive Smarter Challenge’ Launched.
Someone at CNN is a snarky little devil.
Dreggas
Of course it’s ok. It’s always ok to belittle men and use derogatory terms like “dick”, “prick”, “asshole” etc when talking about men. It’s called a double standard and while I could care less (I’m a card carrying asshole) it is amusing to note it’s perfectly ok to gender stereotype men and, in fact, men are supposed to be a set way (dripping with Old Spice as Chris Mathews would say) but to see women in a set way is sexist.
Cain
Well folks, we’ll see how Obama does today in Oregon.. I’ve not seen any polls or anything but I hope that we’ll be seeing some serious numbers. My prediction is a 10-15 point spread and I base that on how badly my fart smelled this morning.
cain
chopper
this is hill’s way of trying to take the wind out of obama’s sails on the day he obtains a majority of pledged delegates. his campaign has denied that he intended to ‘declare victory’, but putting this accusation out there might make him tone down the celebratin’ either way. whatever it takes to keep her in the game i guess.
Xenos
The Republicans said that gay marriage would lead to polygamy, but I did not think they would be so determined to prove the point.
Incertus
Maybe for the use of the word “harridan”? Or simply because he got the facts wrong in his original column? I could buy the first–it plays into the stereotype of the nagging woman–but it’s not because of sexism that Cohen made the latter error. It’s because he’s a lazy writer.
ThymeZone
TMI violation.
Rick Taylor
According to a diary over at mydd, Terry McAuliffe’s office sent the release to the press.
cleek
as i was told over and over the last time i visited Feministing, men are neither capable nor allowed to judge whether something is sexist or not. only women can do that.
and that’s why i now avoid Feministing.
rachel
I thought I’d read somewhere that Armando had banned himself, but I guess not, huh?
Cain
oh..sorry about that. I’ll keep my farts to myself next time.
cain
Paul
I’m honestly surprised.
I still maintain that the Democrats still won’t pick up the seat this fall, though.
The Grand Panjandrum
Jesus! Is that still on? oh puhleeeeeezz! Everyone who counts is watching the Dancing With the Stars results show tonight. (Much better outfits and better looking people!)
Dreggas
Yeah see that’s where I call bullshit.
dlw32
This one got me.
Kmeic Denied Communion
Now you can be denied a sacrament not based even on your beliefs but on those of someone you endorse.
cleek
once i realized how much crazy it takes to assert something like that, i figured i was better off walking away quietly.
Bot LaBeer
McCain is going to try and do his best to trash Obama in the early part of today’s news cycle. Grandpa will be talking to a group of Cuban expats on Cuban Independence Day and tossing out the “Obama’s going to appease Castro” crap.
flyerhawk
Thought you guys might like to read an email I received from my cousin in Portland, 35 year old stay at home mother of 3.
Genine
That’s screwed-up. I’m sure Jesus wouldn’t approve.
But religion stopped having anything to do with Jesus a long time ago. lol
Cain
I canvassed on Saturday, and I’ll be doing phone banking today and whatever else the campaign needs help in. There are a lot of people of various sizes, ages, and colors volunteering. I see a lot of older women, one explanation I heard was because they tend to have a greater volunteering spirit (which I agree with) and not particularly because of any demographic. One older lady told me she hasn’t volunteered for a political campaign since McCarty.. Damn, that’s awhile. :) I almost said “McCarty who?”
I’ve seen some wierd ass stuff too.. a woman came in asking for an Obama sign, she said she needed one because her husband had a hillary sign up front and she wanted to put her candidate up there too. I joked that there must be some really interesting discussions in her household for that dichotomy after she left.
There is a LOT of political stuff going on with the various races, especially the congressional race between Jeff Merkeley and Steve Novack and Secretary of State. Gordon Smith the Republican has been attacking Jeff Merkeley especially. So there is a lot of political theater going on this time around. They are all good candidates so nobody is losing here. I voted for Novick.. that man seems to be on the ball. Jeff Merkeley is good too though.
One last thing, Obama’s secret service code name is called “Renegade” according to the comments on this thread I gotta admit that’s kind of cool name. I’d prefer “Harbinger” though.
cain
flyerhawk
Latest SUSA poll for Oregon…
Obama up 13
Rick Taylor
Just for a day or two.
Incertus
I think that they were probably trying to point out is that men–myself included–might not see something as sexist, especially if we say it, because we know our intent wasn’t to be sexist. But intent isn’t really the issue, because in a lot of cases, we’re talking about things that we’ve done as a society for so long that we consider them normal, or that we’ve done so long that we don’t even know why we do them anymore, but that have their basis in sexist acts. My reaction these days is, if a woman tells me something is sexist, I don’t get defensive–I just ask her to explain to me how and why, and I find that most of the time, I learn a little something. The key is to give them the benefit of the doubt, because they have to live with shit that men can’t even begin to dream of.
Dreggas
I might catch flack for this but the reality is I am not responsible for other people’s feelings. Each one of us is responsible for how we respond to a given remark, situation, whatever. While I try to be relatively sensitive to people’s quirks and try not to be offensive most of the time I do not have the power to control how a person reacts or feels. They, themselves have that power and choose how to react whether by instinct or other metrics.
I used to let everything everyone said about me affect me. I gave them that power and control. It took a long time for me to realize they only had that power because I let them and once I took it back and didn’t let shit get to me I became a lot happier.
cleek
i can understand that part (it’s the “capable” half). i don’t buy it, but i understand the point.
but when someone says, in effect, “as a man, you don’t get to decide what is sexist and what isn’t”, i walk away. to me, someone who explicitly claims exclusive and ultimate authority over something for their gender is not someone who’s looking for equality with another gender.
(and, oops. the site was Feministe, not Feministing. apologies to the presumably fine people at Feministing, which i don’t read either.)