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They Never Killed Zaphod Beeblebrox, Did They?

by John Cole|  May 23, 20088:08 pm| 117 Comments

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After a few glasses of wine Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters, it came to me. I hereby declare myself in the running to rule the universe.

Sure, I don’t have much else going for me and my chances for election are non-existent, but what if everyone else gets shot? I mean, surely campaigns have been sustained for dumber reasons.

Consider this an open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    May 23, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    what if everyone else gets shot?

    Hey, it happens about–what, once every hundred years or so? Better plan for it!

  2. 2.

    Crusty Dem

    May 23, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    Sorry John, I don’t think you’re qualified (only one head, for starters). You really need to crank up the felonies to make it to galactic president.

    As far as the Hillary assassination ascension discussion, BTD says it’s “indefensible”, and even Taylor Marsh called it “unbelievably unfortunate” (interesting use of the inactive, as if it were something that happened to Hillary rather than something she did), I’m pleasantly surprised. Of course, No Quarters for Old Men never disappoints with teh stupid.

  3. 3.

    demimondian

    May 23, 2008 at 8:21 pm

    I can’t have shots, or beers, or any of those things. Can I have still water instead?

  4. 4.

    Krista

    May 23, 2008 at 8:29 pm

    Still water? C’mon demi, let’s at least get you something with a bit more flavour. How about ginger ale mixed with cranberry juice, and a squeeze of lemon? It’s very tasty.

  5. 5.

    oh really

    May 23, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    Sorry, John, I heard George W. Bush, fresh off a triumphant gig as Planet Lord is planning on moving up to Ruler of the Universe. Rove’s going to run his campaign, so you don’t stand much chance.

    And in Bush’s case, I think assassination is “off the table.”

  6. 6.

    Scotty

    May 23, 2008 at 8:40 pm

    Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters? Even if everyone gets shot you’ll still be considered too elitist for partaking in such a drink, and would never have a chance.

  7. 7.

    r€nato

    May 23, 2008 at 8:49 pm

    I think The Onion owes Hillary W. Clinton a paycheck, she’s been writing their material for them the past couple of weeks.

  8. 8.

    here4tehbeer

    May 23, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    I guess, then, that I will now invoke the following Fark-ism: “Hillary – DIAF”.

    (Die In A Fire)

  9. 9.

    Warren Terra

    May 23, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    I dunno – do you qualify as a natural-born galactic citizen?

  10. 10.

    dr. bloor

    May 23, 2008 at 8:57 pm

    Sorry, John, I heard George W. Bush, fresh off a triumphant gig as Planet Lord is planning on moving up to Ruler of the Universe. Rove’s going to run his campaign, so you don’t stand much chance.

    No surprise, that. Dumbya has spent his entire adult life defying the laws of physics by falling upward; it was inevitable that he’d eventually reach a station in life where gravity is irrelevant.

  11. 11.

    Jon H

    May 23, 2008 at 9:01 pm

    Y’know, that RFK comment by Clinton looks especially bad in light of her recent evocation of Zimbabwe.

  12. 12.

    JugOPunch

    May 23, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    I don’t need to run.

    I am who am.

    I’ll decide.

  13. 13.

    null pointer exception

    May 23, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    hey all blogs seem to be having get togethers. When are juicers going to meet?

  14. 14.

    null pointer exception

    May 23, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    btw, mad props for being a DNA fan

  15. 15.

    El Cid

    May 23, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    “Look, it is completely inappropriate that the media continue to pressure me to respond to these extreme and outrageous mis-characterizations of my comments by supporters of my rival to the nomination, Patrice Lumumba…

    “…What?”

    – HRC tomorrow

  16. 16.

    Paul

    May 23, 2008 at 9:17 pm

    Sen. Clinton as Galactic President! Now there is an image that will not soon leave my head.

  17. 17.

    p.a.

    May 23, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve. If those in line ahead of me for President have an unfortunate ‘accident’, I will serve only long enough to fill every job in the Federal government via a lottery of all registered voters. They couldn’t do a worse job than the current misadministration. Athens did it, and they made out OK. Uh,
    until the Syracuse campaign. What is it with democracies and wars of choice?

  18. 18.

    mapaghimagsik

    May 23, 2008 at 9:24 pm

    Now I have to run and stay in because *something* could happen.

    Nice Cole we have here, if ya know what I’m saying…

  19. 19.

    kind of an off white

    May 23, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    No Quarters for Old Men

    Oh, that’s funny. Because of the bowl-cut or the psycopathy?

    I tried making fun of that place on the thread below but nutpicking Hillary supporters on a No Quarter thread involves citing that rare comment that has some logic to it. I couldn’t even find one this time.

  20. 20.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    May 23, 2008 at 9:39 pm

    I hereby declare myself in the running to rule the universe.

    pish, posh – such an ordinary, vulgar ambition. Surely you can do better than that.

    I want to be Major Howard DeVore, formerly of the Tang’s Security Service.

    ’cause making chaos is so much more fun than trying to run the show. That, and I want to kick ass at Wei-Qi.

  21. 21.

    drag0n

    May 23, 2008 at 9:40 pm

    Olberman’s Special Comment tonite in case anyone missed it. I suppose the folks over at talkleft will be, yawn, up in arms over it,

  22. 22.

    Mutant Poodle

    May 23, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    I do believe you need two heads to follow in Zaphod’s footsteps. And beware the Vogons.

  23. 23.

    Scotty

    May 23, 2008 at 9:50 pm

    Olberman’s Special Comment tonite in case anyone missed it. I suppose the folks over at talkleft will be, yawn, up in arms over it,

    For some reason he always says what I’m thinking in his special comments. Weird, huh?

  24. 24.

    cbear

    May 23, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    I suppose the folks over at talkleft will be, yawn, up in arms over it,

    Yep, and each one of those “folks” seem to be equipped with more arms than an octopus.

  25. 25.

    KRK

    May 23, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    Since it’s an open thread, two more signs that the last bloom really is off the Texas-by-way-of-Connecticut Rose that is GWB, even among former strongholds.

    First, the McCain campaign has had to move and “scale down” a fundraising event where GWB is to appear, from the Phoenix convention center to a private undisclosed residence, because they want to avoid (certain) protests. Scuttle off into a dark corner, why don’t you.

    Second, at VetVoice, a report on Bush’s speech yesterday at Fort Bragg:

    I must say, in my entire career, of all the military functions I’ve attended, not a single one has disgusted me as much as I was today when President Bush finally ended his remarks.

    An update notes that soldiers had been working late nights after duty hours to paint over the mold in the barracks in preparation for Bush’s photo-op tour.

  26. 26.

    srv

    May 23, 2008 at 9:54 pm

    That’s it. I’m done. I am so sick of all this shit that I embrace the dark side and accept authoritarianism in all it’s forms.

  27. 27.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    May 23, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    Give it Up, HRC

  28. 28.

    wasabi gasp

    May 23, 2008 at 10:07 pm

    On the bright side, Hillary is a great role model for a whole new generation of wildly aggressive women.

    Up until you need stitches or a bone set, fucked-up chicks are hot!!

  29. 29.

    Halteclere

    May 23, 2008 at 10:10 pm

    Second, at VetVoice, a report on Bush’s speech yesterday at Fort Bragg:

    I loved this quote:

    I fought for that Constitution, Mr. President. I’d appreciate it if you’d abide by it.

  30. 30.

    Jake

    May 23, 2008 at 10:14 pm

    Olberman’s Special Comment tonite in case anyone missed it. I suppose the folks over at talkleft will be, yawn, up in arms over it,

    Well, don’t you see? The press was just looking for an excuse, ANY EXCUSE, to keep pushing Hillaree out of the race. And this is a perfect example, by none other than that misogynist Olbermann.

    ISN’T IT OBVIOUS?!?!?

  31. 31.

    cbear

    May 23, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Would it be offensive if I remarked that Hillary has now become the “Old Yeller” of the Democratic Party and somebody is going to have to deal with her accordingly?
    Metaphorically speaking, of course.

    (h/t Dennis-SGMM: “Hillary has made herself the downer cow of the Democratic party”.)

  32. 32.

    Chris Johnson

    May 23, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    “I fought for that Constitution, Mr. President. I’d appreciate it if you’d abide by it.” “Given the opportunity to thank honorable men and women for their service to their country, the President, using a captive back drop of American Soldiers seized the opportunity to make political demands of the Senate, make ridiculous errant arguments for our entry to the Iraq war, and link Iraq to Osama bin Laden and the September 11th attacks. I must say, in my entire career, of all the military functions I’ve attended, not a single one has disgusted me as much as I was today when President Bush finally ended his remarks.”

    Wow- BURN.

    It’s such a pity these people can’t feel shame, because they deserve so much of it. He says Bush’s people had soldiers up all night PAINTING OVER MOLD of the barracks for the photo op. Holy shit, how horrible can it get?

    No wonder he probably doesn’t expect to carry off martial law anymore. he’s been shitting on the troops too long.

  33. 33.

    Crusty Dem

    May 23, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    kind of an off white – No Quarters (and yes, No Quarters for Old Men is directed at their great CIA leaders ‘do) is my favorite guilty read and I absolutely love to make fun of them. I have pretty low expectations, in general, I’m not at all troubled by stupidity; I can read Michelle Malkin or freepers or NRO without so much as a mental cringe. I find the posts and comments at No Quarters to be the most amazingly idiotic crap on the interwebs.

    FWIW, if you’re ever commenting over there, or in a discussion with the acclaimed national security genius/former CIA agent/hair stylists worst nightmare, make sure to reference this:

    http://www.slate.com/id/1008336

  34. 34.

    Chris Johnson

    May 23, 2008 at 10:41 pm

    I wanted to post on that veterans’ site, “Hey guys- I’m a civilian, and I’m really proud of you and really ashamed of Bush here”. Can’t, though- no account, and I don’t think I rate an account on the site not being a vet.

    But still- I have always been absolutely certain that at least some and probably MOST soldiers care more for this country and our Constitution and system of government than Bush does. And it turns out to be true.

  35. 35.

    cbear

    May 23, 2008 at 11:02 pm

    I just re-read my post at 10:24 and realized that, although it was purely intended as snark, and in response to HRC’s wildly inappropriate gaffe—it is also highly inappropriate as written.
    I meant that somebody within the Dem hierarchy, perhaps all of them, need to finally confront her with the facts. However, I did not make that clear.
    My apologies.
    Seriously.

  36. 36.

    Crusty Dem

    May 23, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    At Talkleft, Jeralyn says there was nothing wrong with Hillary’s comments (title of post “Making Mountains Out of Molehills”) and got BTD to retract his previous, fairly harsh criticism “I think it is clear I overreacted”. Now she’s shut down comments. Her most unfortunate sentence “The media and blog commenters are engaging in character assassination”. Psst, Jeralyn, maybe you shouldn’t use the word “assassination”, that’s sort of the problem..

    Can we start calling Armando “Little Tent Democrat”? Maybe if he got his own blog he could actually stand by what he writes..

    Funny, when the “bitter” thing came out, she wasn’t very forgiving at all, my favorite quote – “In other words, he doesn’t accept the words offended some people, only that the way people interpreted them may have been offensive. And, he dismisses them as a ‘distraction.'”. Of course, now she’s saying that Hillary’s words shouldn’t have offended anyone and it’s all just a distraction.

  37. 37.

    Sleeper

    May 23, 2008 at 11:11 pm

    If I remember correctly, the President of the Galaxy wasn’t really running things. He was just in place to make enough of a distraction and to look so ridiculous that people (or Vogons or sentient superintelligent shades of blue or what have you) wouldn’t notice who was really running the show.

    …I was going to make an analogy to the Presidency of Iran, but considering Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney’s relationship, I guess there’s no need to go overseas to find an analogy.

  38. 38.

    Warren Terra

    May 23, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Can we start calling Armando “Little Tent Democrat”?

    I don’t know who coined it, but I saw, and have been using, “Pup Tent Democrat”.

    It gets the small size and the childishness.

  39. 39.

    Person of Choler

    May 23, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Alcohol is a depressant. Lay off the juice for a couple of weeks and the world might look like a brighter, more pleasant place.

    You might see fewer universe-wrecking conspiracies by ChimpyMcHitler, Lucifer Cheney, and Beelzebubette H. R. Clinton.

    It might further become obvious to you that Our New Lord and Savior Barak (we dare not speak his middle name) Obama will overcome the evil machinations of Lucifer Rove and, come next January, begin his reign of Peace, Harmony, and Progress.

  40. 40.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 23, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    So long Hillary! Thanks for all the fish!

  41. 41.

    cay

    May 23, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    Thanks John, for restoring my sanity. I am an early Obama supporter and friends would make comments about his race and the possibility of an assassination being reasons to not consider his candidacy. For Hillary to bring it up and for her supporters to deny this Kennedy reference as anything but political belies the character of Hillary’s campaign. Barack has his dignity and Hillary has nothing.

  42. 42.

    Crusty Dem

    May 23, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Thanks, Warren, Pup Tent Democrat it is.

  43. 43.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    May 23, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Now she’s shut down comments.

    That’s the worst thing that’s happened since Zimbabwe!

  44. 44.

    KRK

    May 23, 2008 at 11:40 pm

    Chris Johnson Says:

    I wanted to post on that veterans’ site, “Hey guys- I’m a civilian, and I’m really proud of you and really ashamed of Bush here”. Can’t, though- no account, and I don’t think I rate an account on the site not being a vet.

    Chris, I don’t think you have to have any connection to the military to have an account or comment there. I just lurk, myself, but I’ve read lots of comments there that seem to be from non-military folks. The site is an off-shoot of their effort to publicize and get support for vets running for public office, so I’m sure they’d be happy to have support/interest from all quarters.

  45. 45.

    mr. whipple

    May 23, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    wasn’t this pretty much bound to happen?

    i mean, she’s been out of it since february. no way to to win, except thru catastrophe of some sort. but she forges ahead on a wave of lies and spin.(yes, we still have a GREAT shot at this…send us $ today!).

    at each stage the rhetoric get more insane…race baiting, doing shots, talking like annie oakly, nuke iran, make up fake popular vote count metrics, lying, lying and more lying, load up your supporters and their walkers and bus them to the DNC to stage a polyester sweatsuit coup…it just gets more and more nuts.

    but no one *says* it’s nuts. the supers sit on their hands. staff stays loyal. the press looks the other way unless she says something so bizarre they feel compelled to report it. democrats as a whole think the whole thing is peachy and want it to go on forever. what’s the harm?

    it’s been a long, sad, charade. and in part it’s because people that should have said ‘enough’ never had the guts to say so.

  46. 46.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 23, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    I just tossed another $25.00 in the kitty for Obama via the ActBlue link for Balloon Juice.

    Gotta feed the Magical Unity Pony, and I want it to eat the bestest oats! :)

    Up to 308 donors, and $18,075.00! I would say that we are doing a great job of keeping the MUP fed. :D

  47. 47.

    myiq2xu

    May 23, 2008 at 11:54 pm

    Now I understand why y’all supported G-dub twice.

    You’re fucking morons.

    Even RFK Jr. defended her.

    But keep trying to gin up the fauxrage

  48. 48.

    Ripley

    May 23, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Serious question:

    When will Hillary’s vendors be paid? $20million+ in debts, how many printing shops and caterers, etc. are waiting for their money?

  49. 49.

    Incertus

    May 23, 2008 at 11:56 pm

    Of course, No Quarters for Old Men never disappoints with teh stupid.

    I know. I hope they hang around once the primaries are completely over, because I get a good post or two a week out of those dumbasses.

  50. 50.

    Warren Terra

    May 23, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    Now I understand why y’all supported G-dub twice.

    Is this some use of “y’all” with which I am unfamiliar? I can assure you that I have never supported Dubya, and I was against his war in Iraq from the beginning of the drumbeat.

    If your candidate could say the same, she’d be the nominee.

  51. 51.

    KRK

    May 24, 2008 at 12:03 am

    So what were people really saying about the 1992 campaign?

    NYT, March 20, 1992
    Former Senator Paul E. Tsongas of Massachusetts withdrew from the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination today, a decision that many in his party said all but insured the selection of Gov. Bill Clinton of Arkansas.

    Mr. Tsongas announced his departure at a news conference in Boston, where he said his campaign did not have enough money to continue. His move leaves only former Gov. Edmund G. Brown Jr. of California to compete with Mr. Clinton in the remaining primaries and caucuses in 21 states.

    Without adequate money to win, Mr. Tsongas said, “the alternative was to play the role of spoiler.”

    “That is not what I’m about,” he continued. “That is not worthy. I did not survive my ordeals in order to be the agent of the re-election of George Bush.”

    Mr. Clinton is already close to the halfway mark in the number of delegates needed to win the nomination and has a 7-to-1 edge over Mr. Brown, who is running a maverick, anti-establishment campaign. Many Democrats said that barring an unexpected collapse by Mr. Clinton’s campaign, it is difficult to see how Mr. Brown can overtake the Governor.

    ***

    But the attitude among many party leaders today was that the race was winding down. Many said it was time for the party to begin turning its attention to the battle against Mr. Bush.

    “I think we have the chance to bring the party together around the presumptive nominee as early as I’ve ever seen it,” said Steven Grossman, the chairman of the Massachusetts Democratic Party. Phil Angelides, the chairman in California, said, “Today is really the day we start the general election campaign against George Bush.”

    So Tsongas withdrew March 20, 1992, leaving only Clinton and Brown still campaigning. There were still 21 state primaries and caucuses to go, and Clinton had less than half of the delegates needed to lock the nomination. Nonetheless party leaders were beginning to refer to him as the presumptive nominee and saying the that general election had begun.

    Wasn’t that awfully sexist of them?

  52. 52.

    Incertus

    May 24, 2008 at 12:03 am

    Warren Terra Says:

    Is this some use of “y’all” with which I am unfamiliar? I can assure you that I have never supported Dubya, and I was against his war in Iraq from the beginning of the drumbeat.

    We don’t actually exist, Warren. We’re figments of the imagination. All True Democrats support Hillary Clinton and are overreacting when she says stuff like she has for the last week.

  53. 53.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 12:04 am

    Awwwww! Pup Tent Democrat is plumb tuckered out:

    Pre-Memorial Day Weekend Open Thread
    By Big Pup Tent Democrat, Section Blog Related
    Posted on Fri May 23, 2008 at 06:04:17 PM EST

    I realize I am too wrapped up in every bit of this crazy political season. So I am done writing for the night and maybe tomorrow.

    Poor guy. Probably suffering from a lack of oxygen in the tent. Oh, wait! What’s that? Really?!

    Newsweek Poll: Clinton Beats McCain, Obama Tied
    By Big Pup Tent Democrat, Section Elections 2008
    Posted on Fri May 23, 2008 at 08:59:31 PM EST

    Newsweek poll sez:

    Obama 46
    McCain 46

    Clinton 48
    McCain 44

    …

    He got his second wind! That, or his overworked shop compressor was able to re-inflate the big gas bag.

  54. 54.

    Incertus

    May 24, 2008 at 12:05 am

    Dammit, that’s supposed to say “we figments are overreacting.”

  55. 55.

    Crusty Dem

    May 24, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Oh look, myiqsqrt2 with a drive-by. I assume you’re here because Jeralyn shut down comments at Talkleft. You should go to No Quarters and spend some quality time with your intellectual peers, those are the “democrats” who voted for G-dub twice.

  56. 56.

    myiq2xu

    May 24, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Warren Terra Says:

    My step-dad’s name was Warren. He was an fuckhead too

  57. 57.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Even your beloved Obama supporter Rachel Maddow admitted that Obama can’t win against McCain on Race for the White House. All you who voted for Obama, thanks for putting McCain in office. I hope you enjoy your male dominated world.

    And stop with the Hillary bashing on her comments today, she misspoke and apologized. Get over it.

  58. 58.

    Rick Taylor

    May 24, 2008 at 12:14 am

    Now I understand why y’all supported G-dub twice.

    You’re fucking morons.

    You know it’s a cheap shot constantly and gratuitously bringing up John’s past mistakes when he’s more than owned up to them himself. I don’t think you really set a precedent for that. Otherwise, years from now, during the Obama administration, every time someone wants to shoot you down, they’ll just say, well we all know you’re a moron who went on and on and on and on about how Obama couldn’t possibly get the Democratic nomination and then when he did kept going on about how it was giving the election to McCain.

  59. 59.

    Bey

    May 24, 2008 at 12:19 am

    All you who voted for Obama, thanks for putting McCain in office

    Anytime, pencils.

    Misspoke, my ass. This was her fourth citation of RFK’s candidacy and the second direct reference to his assassination. It was deliberate and she overstepped this time.

  60. 60.

    Rick Taylor

    May 24, 2008 at 12:19 am

    “I don’t think you really set a precedent for that” should have been “I don’t think you really *want to* set a precedent for that”

  61. 61.

    Warren Terra

    May 24, 2008 at 12:19 am

    myiq~u, thanks for your absurd and somewhat Freudian statement regarding the first part of my chosen nom de comment.

    If you used your massive IQ to think about it for just a bit you might realize that “Warren Terra” is, in all probability, not my actual name. It is in fact a somewhat juvenile pun I chose when I started commenting on blogs, a reference to our President’s “War On An Abstract Noun”. You remember, the war that your candidate so enthusiastically embraced when she was cheerleading us into Iraq.

  62. 62.

    Bey

    May 24, 2008 at 12:24 am

    That’s not your real name??!! I’m shocked and, yes, dismayed that you won’t bravely stand behind your posts with your real name like myiq2xu does. He’s getting a tad spittle-flecked again, poor dear.

  63. 63.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 12:25 am

    All you who voted for Obama, thanks! for putting McCain in office

    No problem, glad to help!

  64. 64.

    Rick Taylor

    May 24, 2008 at 12:27 am

    All you who voted for Obama, thanks for putting McCain in office.

    Are you planning to vote for Obama in the general election, assuming he wins the nomination?

  65. 65.

    Crusty Dem

    May 24, 2008 at 12:30 am

    Wow, myiqsqrt2 is particularly cranky tonight. I guess watching his candidate flush her chance at being on the ticket makes things a bit rough.

    My step-dad was an idiot who thought he was smarter than everyone else too.

  66. 66.

    Sasha

    May 24, 2008 at 12:31 am

    And stop with the Hillary bashing on her comments today, she misspoke and apologized. Get over it.

    [shrug] She made a Tarrasque-sized gaffe. People are going to talk.

    But since Obama’s campaign isn’t trying to make an issue of it (unlike the Clinton campaign and Bittergate), the sound and fury will probably die down sooner rather than later . . . unless of course, she says something else really ill-thought out.

  67. 67.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 12:41 am

    Misspoke, my ass. This was her fourth citation of RFK’s candidacy and the second direct reference to his assassination. It was deliberate and she overstepped this time.

    Exactly so why all huffy right now?

  68. 68.

    tattoosydney

    May 24, 2008 at 12:44 am

    Myiqhasleftthebuilding and pencils appearing within minutes of each other…

    Coincidence or John McCain’s cheques clearing at the same time?

  69. 69.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 12:45 am

    But since Obama’s campaign isn’t trying to make an issue of it

    Isn’t trying to make an issue out of it? It’s been all over MSNBC today. Come on. The Obama loving press jumped all over this today. Please, give me a break. It’s not even news as has been pointed out this is the 4th time she’s made this same comparison. Only now all the Obama fans get upset. methinks doth protest too much now that Hillary has the lead in the popular vote.

  70. 70.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Are you planning to vote for Obama in the general election, assuming he wins the nomination?

    I don’t know, Honestly. I live in a state that will go Democrat regardless. Given that, probably not.

  71. 71.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Kos has a post up talking about the latest Hillary cash cow who is saying that the party will not get any money out of the deep pockets who support Hillary unless she gets to be VP. Kos basically said that the old dinosaurs just don’t get it. Obama has shown that we just don’t need them any more. Obama has proven that numerous small donors are worth more than a few large donors. John’s ActBlue link bears this out. With $18,075.00 raised from 308 donors, that works out to just over $58.00 a donor.

    Which leaves all kinds of room for more donations as they as needed. The ‘power brokers’ are watching control slip from their fingers, and they are getting desperate. No doubt that Hillary and Bill have made all kinds of promises and/or deals to attract the big money. I think that plays a big part in Hillary and her collapse. They wrote checks that are going to bounce right off their asses, as they should.

    Obama has doesn’t have to play that game. He brought a new game to town, and he is kicking ass. If the DNC follows suit by joining up with Obama in the general, I will send some small donations their way too. And they will see the same damn thing Obama is seeing. The people are pissed, and they are willing to pay to take back their party. Now the party can go back to representing the voters and their families.

    They won’t have to sell their souls to the deep wallet brigade any more. They can actually represent us without pandering to big money. Obama is offering a way for the people to take back their party, and we are helping him do it.

    This is history people, and we are making it happen.

  72. 72.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 12:49 am

    Rick Taylor Says:
    “I don’t think you really set a precedent for that” should have been “I don’t think you really want to set a precedent for that”

    You know Rick, get a fucking life. When you critique grammar or spelling on a blog…and a blog that doesn’t allow edits…you lose.

  73. 73.

    KRK

    May 24, 2008 at 12:51 am

    methinks doth protest too much now that Hillary has the lead in the popular vote.

    Nope, she still doesn’t. And it still wouldn’t matter if she did. Good effort working that in though.

  74. 74.

    myiq2xu

    May 24, 2008 at 12:55 am

    Here’s what the Scary Smart One had to say:

    I’m reading the reports on the mendacious attacks the Bogger Boyz are making on Hillary by completely perverting her comments about RFK.

    […]

    What is my point here? Namely, that the Left Blogosphere has always behaved like this, they have always swarmed and spewed at their favorite target of hate, the Clintons, and that their embrace of Obama is purely instrumental. They don’t give a damn if he can win the general. They are obsessed with preventing the Clintons from returning to power. If he can do that, then they’ll be back to bashing him since he will have served his useful purpose.

    Keep trying to create your own reality, it won’t help.

  75. 75.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 12:56 am

    pencils, you really need to be sharpened. You are plainly dull and not making a point. First you claim that she only made a mistake. Then when it is pointed out that she has made the same ‘mistake’ four times, you ask ‘so what’s the big deal this time?’.

    Are you even paying attention to what you are saying?!

    You: ‘She made a mistake.‘

    Us: ‘Well, she has done this four times, so this is not a ‘mistake’.‘

    You:’Well, if she has done this four times now, what’s the big deal?‘

    Us: ‘Go stick your head in an electric pencil sharpener.‘

    For a pencil, you ain’t very sharp, but you are sure fun to laugh at. Maybe that’s your intention? If so, congratulations.

    If not, find the pencil sharpener.

  76. 76.

    KRK

    May 24, 2008 at 12:56 am

    pencils Says:

    You know Rick, get a fucking life. When you critique grammar or spelling on a blog…and a blog that doesn’t allow edits…you lose.

    Project much?

    He was correcting a mistake in the immediately prior comment made by him.

    Self-correction. Give it a whirl.

  77. 77.

    Rick Taylor

    May 24, 2008 at 12:57 am

    You know Rick, get a fucking life. When you critique grammar or spelling on a blog…and a blog that doesn’t allow edits…you lose.

    That was my own post I was fixing. Yes, it’s annoying I couldn’t go back and edit it; however I wanted to be sure people understood what I was trying to say.

    I don’t know, Honestly. I live in a state that will go Democrat regardless. Given that, probably not.

    You’re perfectly within your rights to vote how you think is right; if Hillary were to win the nomination at this point, given the methods she’d have to use I’d have to think long and hard about my vote. But then you’ve got a lot of nerve coming in and lecturing people simply for voting for the candidate they think is best, telling them they’re putting in McCain in office, when you’re not even willing to support the likely Democratic nominee.

  78. 78.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 1:00 am

    myiq2xu GoatBoy Says:

    I love the smell of hot goat sex in the morning. You know, one time I was loose in a goat pen… for 12 hours. When it was all over, I looked up. I couldn’t find one standing… not one stinkin’ goat. The smell… you know that hot goat sex smell? The whole pen. Smelled like… victory.

    Some day this war’s gonna end…

    What ever happened to that goat in the AFLAC commercial? I notice that it disappeared about the same time you started your hot goat sex fetish.

  79. 79.

    Crusty Dem

    May 24, 2008 at 1:06 am

    Is myiqsqrt2 just upset because he sold his bike and video games and gave the money to Bill Clinton?

  80. 80.

    Rick Taylor

    May 24, 2008 at 1:12 am

    Just to give my own opinion one last time before bed, I actually do agree that Hillary Clinton most probably made a mistake. I don’t think she was intending to suggest that Obama might be assassinated; I think she was intending to subtly draw a comparison of herself to RFK. I do think some people, including some on this blog, over-reacted. On the other hand, what she did say was a genuine gaffe; it was kind of bizarre, tone deaf, open to mis-interpretation, and I don’t think her apology addressed what offended people. Given that, one doesn’t need to posit a conspiracy by Obama to understand why it’s getting the coverage it is. Obama has made gaffes of his own and gotten roasted himself; I’ve said before all politicians make gaffes, what’s important is how they recover from them. Also, I don’t think this particular episode is nearly as important as the previous things she’s said and done (Zimbabwe, Florida 2000, white working class voters support me, etc.).

  81. 81.

    myiq2xu

    May 24, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Conservatively Liberal Says:

    I am John McCain’s bitch!

    Really, she is, she said so herself.

    Now CL, I’m sorry you were ganged-banged by a herd of goats at your grandpa’s farm when you were young. Losing your ass-cherry like that must be traumatic.

    But quit fantasizing about me in a goat mask recreating the most powerful sexual experience in your life.

    Really, I’ll get a restraining order if you keep calling me.

  82. 82.

    wasabi gasp

    May 24, 2008 at 1:17 am

    I hope you enjoy your male dominated world.

    I hear ya, Pencils. We may have a list of pressing issues that deserve the full thrust of our attention – War, Economy, Energy – but Vagina is always at the top of mine.

  83. 83.

    John Cole

    May 24, 2008 at 1:20 am

    I am really trying to be mature about this, but when she said this shit, two hours later I went for a couple glasses of wine and a filet mignon with a bed of asparagus and a grilled romaine salad appetizer with a thirty dollar cigar for dessert to celebrate.

    Since then, I have met up with a girlfriend, and we went out and I had three stiff margaritas and we went home.

    And now, I go through the comments of this thread, and I watch the desperation of the Hillary defenders, and I am inclined to light yet another cigar- Hillary is gone, and we, the country, have dodged a bullet.

  84. 84.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 1:20 am

    Us: ‘Go stick your head in an electric pencil sharpener.’

    The only thing lamer than pointing out spelling and grammar mistakes (on a blog that doesn’t allow edits) is to try and belittle someone on their choice of handle. Care to actually try and make a point? Probably not…being an Obama fan boy words are very important

  85. 85.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 1:23 am

    I am really trying to be mature about this

    Coming from someone who has a category called: “I can no longer rationally discuss the Clinton Campaign”

  86. 86.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 1:25 am

    A quote from a nutjob link at the turd mine (Hillaryis44):

    Trying to make a point about how long primary battles have gone on in the past, Hillary Clinton said the following: “My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it.”

    I might have said the same thing. Frankly, If RFK had not been killed in June, I would have forgotten that primary races have indeed been known to last that long. But the O-Bots interpreted this remark differently: They say — get this! — that Hillary was calling for Obama to be assassinated.

    No, I’m not kidding. Moulitsas even published calls for Hillary to be killed.

    (Update: I contacted a Secret Service field office and read off the death threat against Hillary published on Daily Kos. The person I spoke to seemed to take the matter seriously, and he has promised an investigation.)

    Hillbots are determined little fuckers, aren’t they? No matter how badly their candidate fucks up, they just reverse it on to Obama and his supporters. Now if anyone is calling for Hillary to be killed, I DO want the Secret Service to pay them a visit. But to say that ‘Moulitsas even published calls for Hillary to be killed‘ is really a stretch of the imagination. That, or they are just dropping too much acid.

    Here is the short version of the whole mess: If Hillary had not said what she did, none of this would have happened.

    Is that too fucking hard to understand? For you so-called ‘low information voters’, it probably is.

  87. 87.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 1:25 am

    I hear ya, Pencils. We may have a list of pressing issues that deserve the full thrust of our attention – War, Economy, Energy – but Vagina is always at the top of mine.

    I know it’s snark, but you couldn’t be more right.

  88. 88.

    Lupin

    May 24, 2008 at 1:27 am

    Life is funny. What’s happening at TalkLeft is the reverse of what happened to Balloon Juice.

    You see commenters becoming more and more blinded, fanatical and impervious to simple reason by the day. They’ve reached the redstate stage and cruising towards LGF.

    I didn’t know “Big Tent Democrat” was Armando. But why is he kowtowing to Jeralyn? Does she have photos of him with the goat?

    As I posted there, the Newsweek post is hardly convincing. I went to Real Clear Politics to read more and what did I see, right on their front page:

    # Polls: McCain v. Obama

    * PA: Obama 45, McCain 43
    * OH: Obama 48, McCain 39
    * NV: McCain 46, Obama 40
    * NH: Obama 48, McCain 43
    * MS: McCain 54, Obama 39

    General Election: McCain vs. Obama
    RCP Average
    Obama
    47.8
    McCain
    43.1
    Obama +4.7

    General Election: McCain vs. Clinton
    RCP Average
    Clinton
    46.0
    McCain
    44.5
    Clinton +1.5

    MAt the stage we are in, I don’t find this kind of statistical data (often within the margin of error) convincing.

  89. 89.

    Phoenix Woman

    May 24, 2008 at 1:28 am

    Wow, Armando finds one poll to cling to, apparently so he can please Jeralyn. Meanwhile, all the other polls over the past few days show Obama pulling well ahead of McCain nationally, even in states like Virginia and Florida. (Remember Florida? Hillary thinks she owns it.)

    Meanwhile, Obama has eight staffers on the ground in Georgia. McCain has none. NONE. Check this out:

    Obama is doing so well (20+ / 0-)

    in signing up new voters. In addition, his campaign has got bodies on the ground in a number of states that McCain has written off, either because he thinks they won’t vote for him or because he thinks they will.

    Obama has eight people working in Georgia, a Republican stronghold. McCain has none.

    A friend of mine (a political reporter) just attended the recent Republican convention in Georgia. He said they are terrified. They know they can hold on to some seats, but they are terrified of an Obama candidacy and its downticket possibilities.

    We’re talking 1936 and 1964 here, folks. Democratic majorities in Congress that would suffice to neuter McCain even if he did win – and he won’t. By this time next year, President Obama will be seeing his appointees sail smoothly through Congress. Let Hillary rant and rave — the more she does, the more even the hardest-core among her backers realize that a) she’s done, and b) she did it to herself.

  90. 90.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 1:29 am

    myiq2xu GoatBoy Says:

    Open Invitation To All:

    Do you want to join p.lukasiak, kwAwk and me in the goat pen? You would have to share with us until you can get your own goats, but sloppy seconds is better than nothing.

    Naah, I will pass on that invite GoatBoy. BTW, have you figured out that baby goats are called kids? You have? I should have guessed.

  91. 91.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 1:29 am

    Conservatively Liberal Says:
    A quote from a nutjob link at the turd mine (Hillaryis44

    blah blah blah blah, nutpicking blah blah, nutpicking blah, blah

    What is y’all say around here…fixed?

  92. 92.

    pencils

    May 24, 2008 at 1:33 am

    Luplin & Phoenix,

    When you look at the entire electoral map, Clinton wins by a landslide over Obama. That is why I’m so concerned that to Obama folk who have taken over the Democratic party are making a grave mistake.

  93. 93.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 1:33 am

    I hear ya, Pencils. We may have a list of pressing issues that deserve the full thrust of our attention – War, Economy, Energy – but Vagina is always at the top of mine.

    Do go on!

    /drool

  94. 94.

    Rick Taylor

    May 24, 2008 at 1:36 am

    The only thing lamer than pointing out spelling and grammar mistakes (on a blog that doesn’t allow edits) is to try and belittle someone on their choice of handle.

    Did you not read the previous posts? I was correcting my own mistake, for readability’s sake, as my previous didn’t make sense as written.

  95. 95.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 1:38 am

    pencils Says:

    My real name is Richard, but the bullies at school always called me ‘Pencil Dick’ in the locker room after PhysEd. I liked the name so much that I decided to shorten it and use it here.

    Great. Now please zip up your pants and leave.

  96. 96.

    Rick Taylor

    May 24, 2008 at 1:39 am

    Coming from someone who has a category called: “I can no longer rationally discuss the Clinton Campaign”

    At least he knows it’s true. :)

  97. 97.

    Rick Taylor

    May 24, 2008 at 1:43 am

    Here’s a link in case you need it, pencils.

  98. 98.

    Tom in Texas

    May 24, 2008 at 1:44 am

    pencils:

    John isn’t the only one incapable of rational thought concerning Clinton. He’s just the only one to admit it. That tag works just as well for your sycophantic burbling of a website, Armando’s twitterings, or the multitude of other bloggers who left behind any semblance of rational thought* when they became part of Team Hillary!

    * — if they had any to start. I’m still not sold on Taylor Marsh ever being readable as a blogger)

  99. 99.

    cbear

    May 24, 2008 at 1:46 am

    Really, I’ll get a restraining order if you keep calling me.

    myiqey-
    Aren’t you just the slightest bit embarrassed to be in the company of pencils, and the other Sun Queen cultists?

    C’mon dude, she fucked up. I know she fucked up. You know she fucked up. The ghost of Reagans’ dick knows she fucked up. Everybody knows she fucked up. Hell, even she knows she fucked up.
    Obama didn’t make her do it. The Muppers didn’t make her do it. The MSM didn’t make her do it. The devil didn’t make her do it. She did it to herself.
    She. fucked. up.
    End of story.

  100. 100.

    myiq2xu

    May 24, 2008 at 1:53 am

    End of story.

    You got yourself a goat mask, didn’t you?

    Okay, say what you have to to score, but the boys from Pelican Bay told me that ass is loose and sloppy.

    Call me when you’re done.

  101. 101.

    cain

    May 24, 2008 at 1:59 am

    I am really trying to be mature about this, but when she said this shit, two hours later I went for a couple glasses of wine and a filet mignon with a bed of asparagus and a grilled romaine salad appetizer with a thirty dollar cigar for dessert to celebrate.

    Ya should have gone here It’s a place only a carnivore would love. I don’t think I’ve ever had so much meat in my life. I was going for a birthday party, but I suppose it could have been a good been a decent “hillary fuckup” party too. I’m still groaning… all that meat… ugh.. I’m in protein hell…

    cain

  102. 102.

    ImJohnGalt

    May 24, 2008 at 2:02 am

    myiq, it’s ever so progressive of you to spout your homophobic rejoinders. I sure do want Democrats like you in the party.

    Not.

    Thank goodness you’re a s’pooh’f.

  103. 103.

    cbear

    May 24, 2008 at 2:03 am

    the boys from Pelican Bay

    Me and the old gang from the SHU feel real bad about making you wear that cute little pantsuit with the Farmer John flap, buddy. We were just having a little fun with the new fish, and didn’t realize it was going to scar you for life.
    Sorry.

  104. 104.

    Conservatively Liberal

    May 24, 2008 at 2:04 am

    myiq2xu GoatBoy Says:

    Did I ever tell you guys that I love goats? No, really! I LOVE goats! You know, LOVE? Does anyone have a goat that I can borrow? Mine are a little worn out. That’s why I really come over here, I am only looking to get a little goat.

    Nope. No goats here GoatBoy. Don’t give up though! You know, as an alternative you could try sheep if you get really desperate. No? Hung up on goats eh? Oh, you mean you are hung up on well hung goats.

    That puts everything in a whole new perspective.

  105. 105.

    Ninerdave

    May 24, 2008 at 2:42 am

    John isn’t the only one incapable of rational thought concerning Clinton. He’s just the only one to admit it. That tag works just as well for your sycophantic burbling of a website, Armando’s twitterings, or the multitude of other bloggers who left behind any semblance of rational thought* when they became part of Team Hillary!

    Not exactly sure what you’re trying to say here Tom, but John’s admitted he can’t stand the Clintons, thus the reason this blog exists. It’s only since Kos said it’s ok to hate the Clintons that it’s become fashionable.

  106. 106.

    Chuck Butcher

    May 24, 2008 at 2:43 am

    If the DNC follows suit by joining up with Obama in the general, I will send some small donations their way too.

    Just for the record, the Obama campaign is directly modeled on the DNC’s. Yes, DNC was there first. Granted being the Party mechanism isn’t nearly as charismatic as Obama, but it has worked pretty damn well. Oh yeah, you know those very cool computerized voter lists and turf cutting models they’ve used to such success – DNC. I’ve had the pleasure of watching the Dean model so dismissed by the DLCers and Penns and McAuliffs as la-la land hooey absolutely kick their asses. I know this because I’ve been up to my ass in the process for two years. You cannot know how gratifying it is to be kicking those POS asses.

    DNC gets an automatic contribution each month from my credit card.

  107. 107.

    Ninerdave

    May 24, 2008 at 2:43 am

    Woot!

  108. 108.

    cain

    May 24, 2008 at 3:27 am

    Chuck,

    That is freakin awesome. They killed Dean’s campaign but just like Empire Strikes Back, Dean became even more powerful after he was struck down. Rock on, Dean! I still say he would have made a fucking awesome president. Dean is Obama’s successor.

    cain

  109. 109.

    Chuck Butcher

    May 24, 2008 at 4:23 am

    I liked Dean a lot, but that phoney media scream thing killed that long before I had any say. I had moments then when I thought I might actually get pretty much represented in a POTUS contest. It’ll be cold day in hell before that happens again, I’ll just have to get along with Obama.

  110. 110.

    nogo war

    May 24, 2008 at 8:35 am

    Trillian: You idiot! You signed the order to destroy Earth!
    Zaphod: I did?
    Arthur: He did?
    Trillian: Love and kisses Zaphod? You didn’t even read it, did you?
    Zaphod: Well, I’m president, I don’t have a lot of time for reading.
    Trillian: My whole planet destroyed because you thought someone wanted your autograph!

  111. 111.

    Sasha

    May 24, 2008 at 9:41 am

    But since Obama’s campaign isn’t trying to make an issue of it

    Isn’t trying to make an issue out of it? It’s been all over MSNBC today. Come on. The Obama loving press jumped all over this today. Please, give me a break. It’s not even news as has been pointed out this is the 4th time she’s made this same comparison. Only now all the Obama fans get upset. methinks doth protest too much now that Hillary has the lead in the popular vote.

    The press hopped on the Bittergate express as well y’know, but I don’t see Obama or his staff going out and actively making talking points out of Hillary’s lapse. (Again, unlike Clinton who seized the opportunity to paint her fellow Democrat as an elitist — a talking point normally associated with the GOP.)

    And unless you’re using something besides the traditional base 10 numeral system to count, Obama is ahead by pretty much every objective metric, including popular vote.

  112. 112.

    w vincentz

    May 24, 2008 at 9:42 am

    I’m hoping to get some good deals on some slightly used pant suits at the local thrift shop very soon.
    I’ve got dibs on the yellow one. I might double my money when I put it up on ebay.

  113. 113.

    PaulB

    May 24, 2008 at 9:43 am

    Keep trying to create your own reality, it won’t help.

    ROFL…. Oh, the irony, coming from that poster. Tell us again how Clinton can win the nomination, won’t you?

  114. 114.

    PaulB

    May 24, 2008 at 9:46 am

    When you look at the entire electoral map, Clinton wins by a landslide over Obama.

    Actually, no she doesn’t. Nor does McCain. Has it really escaped your notice that Obama has beaten Clinton? And that this sort of thing doesn’t happen if your favored candidate “wins by a landslide”? Man, what a stupid post.

  115. 115.

    KRK

    May 24, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    cain Says:

    They killed Dean’s campaign but just like Empire Strikes Back, Dean became even more powerful after he was struck down.

    Wait, no, that can’t be right. Dean is the Empire? Does that make me a Stormtrooper? I thought I was part of the Rebel Alliance!

  116. 116.

    w vincentz

    May 24, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    KRK,
    Dean = Chewbaca
    Barack = Lando
    Hillary = Jabba (but worse)

    Young Jedi, Yoda told you to follow the force. The Rebel Alliance will prevail. Watch out for the sand people.

  117. 117.

    bago

    May 25, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    He was an fuckhead too

    Coming from a username that brags about IQ, this elevates that quote to offical moran status.

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