Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

Republicans choose power over democracy, every day.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

Chutkan laughs. Lauro sits back down.

And we’re all out of bubblegum.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

White supremacy is terrorism.

Glad to see john eastman going through some things.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

I was promised a recession.

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

“woke” is the new caravan.

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

The words do not have to be perfect.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

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Why is Jim Gaffigan chairing the RBC meeting?

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*** Update ***

At least the Clinton position is clear: “We have no problem taking every delegate from the state of Michigan, and fair reflection would suggest that not one single voter in the state of Michigan voted for or would have voted for Barack Obama. Plus, the Obama camp is a bunch of fools for believing the DNC.”

*** Update #2 ***

Lanny Davis’s long national emotional breakdown continues.

*** Update #3 ***

Ausman to Lanny Davis– Shut up.

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  2. 2.

    Jake

    The grandstanding by folks on the Clinton side of things is really fucking tiresome.

  5. 5.

    TheFountainHead

    Wow, I attended High School government meetings with less back-biting than this.

  6. 6.

    Jake

    Can we all just admit this is bullshit?

    If something actually gets decided on MI (and let’s face it, that seems questionable), what’s it likely to be? It’ll be full seating, 1/2 a vote each, with 73 for Clinton and 55 for Obama. That’ll net all of 9 delegates for Clinton, which doesn’t fucking matter anyway, because this was over a long time ago.

    There might be variations on that which swing a few delegates one way or the other, but it’s not going to be significant. Until then, everyone gets their chance to add more hot air to the room. What a freaking waste of energy.

  7. 7.

    TheFountainHead

    I really hope that a solution for this all his already been worked out between the campaigns because otherwise this will go on forever.

  8. 8.

    TheFountainHead

    Donna Brazile is a strange cat. I like her, but she’s a strraaaaaannnnge cat.

  9. 9.

    El Cid

    I wish in my daily work life I could re-define “compromise” more frequently in the fashion which the HRC supporters are suggesting it with regard to Michigan and Florida. Yes, it’s true I may have gone outside the rules with regard to my benefits, but I would be willing to compromise, by which I mean get everything I want.

  13. 13.

    Jake

    Meanwhile, Obama today:

    We all misspeak sometimes. I’ve done it myself. So on such a basic, factual error, you’d think that Senator McCain would just admit that he made a mistake and move on. But he couldn’t do that. Instead, he dug in. And the disturbing thing is that we’ve seen this movie before — a leader who pursues the wrong course, who is unwilling to change course, who ignores the evidence. Now, just like George Bush, John McCain refused to admit that he made a mistake. And that’s exactly the kind of leadership that we’ve had through more than five years of fighting a war that should’ve never been authorized, and should’ve never been waged.

    We don’t need more leaders who can’t admit they’ve made a mistake, even when it’s about something as fundamental as how many young Americans are serving in harm’s way.

    Sounds pitch perfect.

  14. 14.

    Adam

    Ickes looked like he got punched in the face when the chair smacked him down. It was beautiful.

    I finally got fed up and couldn’t take it any more. What happened?

  15. 15.

    TheFountainHead

    Ickes wanted to “comment” and the chair said, “This is a time for questions, you can comment later.”

  16. 16.

    elf

    I listened to Sen. Levin and thought he presented a well reasoned argument/explanation for the total approach taken taken by Michigan to begin with.
    Splitting the baby in half may be the ultimate bargain made by the powers that be of the committee.

    The Clinton argument is of course flawed if not an outright untruth. And at least the msm has picked up on it.

    You know going into this I was not clear one way or the other who I was going to go with. Told my family that ultimately whomever the Party went with would get my vote.

    I thought both candidates gave well reasoned arguments at their debates and actually was pretty impressed with Clinton.

    But (and I do mean but), once her campaign started with the bullshit and victimizing and lies. Her persuasive arguments went right out the window and she totally lost me.

    I don’t need it to be the First Woman President no matter what! And I am a woman.

    What I need is for someone of integrity to take back my country!

  17. 17.

    Adam

    Hee hee. Does anyone else get a kick out of listening to people chat off-camera on the live CNN feed?

  18. 18.

    Jorge

    All I’m saying is that if the Clinton proposal passes, then I want my arm-band and .PDF file of which of my neighbors is on the enemies list ASAP. And I’ll be signing up my kids for the Clinton Youth monday morning.

    Is that a bit over the top?

  20. 20.

    patroclus

    I believe our children are our future. Teach them well and let them lead the way!

  21. 21.

    Jake

    It seems that Lanny Davis had a major hissy fit in the lobby

    Lanny has been a walking, talking hissy fit for at least the past month. I want someone to drop kick that asshat.

  22. 22.

    mbuchel

    I think it was Atrios that wrote that it was worth supporting Obama if only for the reason that Lanny Davis wouldn’t be on TV much any more.

  23. 23.

    Tom in Texas

    Lanny Davis is a hack, but at least he isn’t certifiably retarded.

    Of the eight Hillary supporters I quiz at the protest (six of them women), only one says she’d even consider voting for Obama in the fall. “It’s sad. I’m a lifelong Democrat and the party’s been taken over by these Obama people who say they want ‘change,'” gripes Linda of Horseheads, New York, outside the Marriott as a honking car decorated with a painting of Hillary, a glued-on bust of Cleopatra, and a tampon drives by. Linda, she says, has already gone to the state Board of Elections to learn how to write Hillary’s name in in November. “So much has been stolen from her.”

    Justine, a self-described “diehard Democrat” from Greensboro, North Carolina, objects to the write-in idea. “It’s gonna help Barack if you don’t vote against him,” she says. She and her friends got Sinclair to autograph their copies of the “Murder, Drugs, Gay Sex” flier. One of those friends, Jeannie, is living proof that, at least for some people, the long primary has done its damage. “When [Obama] first came out, we just thought he was too young,” she explains. “But now I don’t think he’s qualified at all.”

    They feteed Larry Sinclair, for cryin out loud. Clinton fans supporting someone who is baselessly making sexually charged allegations.

    Fuck ’em. I’m through trying to play nice or reason. These people are either plants or beyond help.

  24. 24.

    Jake

    There really aren’t too many Clinton surrogates who’ve come off looking respectable throughout all of this. Maybe Evan Bayh? Rendell at times at least has shown an unwillingness to tow the Clinton party line.

    That’s about it, no?

  25. 25.

    Adam

    Lanny Davis losing it is emblematic of everything else going down in the campaign, sadly — a lot of people are just pissed off and lashing out. He even admitted that he didn’t expect to win even with the entire delegation. If that’s the case then there was nothing substantive to get bad about. That’s what’s happening now.

  26. 26.

    Ninerdave

    Howard Dean may hope that the “healing will begin today,” but two blocks away from the northwest Washington Marriott where the DNC’s Rules and Bylaws Committee is meeting right now to try to figure out Florida and Michigan, the Hillary protesters are occupying an utterly alternate (and healing-free) universe: a universe in which one of the big lawn rally’s speakers yells that the Democratic Party no longer is in the business of “promoting equality and fairness for all”; in which a Hillary supporter with two poodles shouts, “Howard Dean is a leftist freak!”; in which a man exhibits a sign that reads “At least slaves were counted as 3/5ths a Citizen” and shows Dean whipping handcuffed people; and in which Larry Sinclair, the Minnesota man who took to YouTube to allege that Barack Obama had oral sex with him in the back of a limousine in 1999, is one of the belles of the ball.

    via c/b

    I don’t want these people in the Democratic party. Beat it, start a third party, join the GOP.

    I am so sick and tired of authoritarians and people who live in alternate realities influencing politics. Beat it. DIAF.

  27. 27.

    sunny

    I don’t want these people in the Democratic party. Beat it, start a third party, join the GOP.

    Just imagine a Democratic president who was elected by and beholden to African Americans, young college students, highly educated leftist “elites”, and plenty of left-minded working class whites.

    as opposed to..

    Appalachian yahoos, Reagan Democrats, centrist “serious people”, and self important, passively racist, whiny feminists.

    We can yank this country left, even if the rest of them are kicking and screaming.

    I’m a white, middle-aged, working class, SOUTHERN WOMAN, just as a btw, and I’ve been saying for YEARS that Hillary Clinton is a neocon. I wouldn’t vote for her for love or money.

  30. 30.

    Jorge

    Let’s not let the nuts who will drive hundreds of miles to protest their own party somehow get any more credit than they deserve.

  31. 31.

    Octavian

    I don’t want these people in the Democratic party. Beat it, start a third party, join the GOP.

    I don’t want them in the Democratic party either. The behavior of these people is just revolting.

  32. 32.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Clinton is managing to poison the well for a woman president just as comprehensively as she poisoned the well for Universal Health Care. She (And Bill) botched that one so badly that it wasn’t brought up as a possibility in the next three presidential elections.
    On the other hand, DOMA, NAFTA, DADT, the AUMF and Kyl-Lieberman were fine with Hill and Bill. The Clintons are the Crisper Drawer of Democratic issues.

  33. 33.

    Jack H.

    The Clinton campaigns detachment from reality scares me. There seems every reason to believe that she would govern in much the same style as Bush has. The unwillingness of Bush/Rove to engage on a reality based plane with everything instead geared towards grasping and retaining power is their most damaging legacy. ‘Creating your own reality’ may work for NLP/Randian businesspeople, but it sure doesn’t work well as a governing principle.

  34. 34.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Keep in mind that HRC can’t win even with the most generous awarding of delegates so the Clinton folks are creating massive ill-will for absolutely nothing.

  35. 35.

    Georgia Pig

    I think John nailed it when he called this a hostage crisis. I really just don’t get what the Clintonites are after. It’s like Dog Day Afternoon, for Chrissakes.

  36. 36.

    El Cid

    I just don’t get why MI & FL get to give the big middle finger to every other state in the union and yet play the victim role.

    If they avoid any sanction, you bet your bottom dollar that every other state is going to date their next primary whenever the hell they want, early or late, and then scream and shout disenfranchisement if anyone ever says ‘boo’.

  37. 37.

    PeterJ

    I think John nailed it when he called this a hostage crisis. I really just don’t get what the Clintonites are after. It’s like Dog Day Afternoon, for Chrissakes.

    They want to reduce the gap in pledged delegates, then they would use the time from now up to the convention to argue that Clinton is more electable and therefore super delegates should vote for her and not Obama.

  38. 38.

    cleek

    If they avoid any sanction, you bet your bottom dollar that every other state is going to date their next primary whenever the hell they want, early or late, and then scream and shout disenfranchisement if anyone ever says ‘boo’.

    anyone expect Clinton will be there to support them and protect them from sanction, if they do ?

    no ?

    hmm.

  39. 39.

    sunny

    Just some fuckhead, I don’t think it’s all for nothing, not from the point of view of the Clintons. I’ve been suspicious of the outright desperation and naked grasping coming from these two consummate political pros for some time.

    It’s almost like they *have* to win, like they have *no choice.*

    Recall it was Bill Clinton who swept GHWB admin scandals and crimes like Iran/Contra and BCCI under the rug in the name of “bipartisan cooperation”. If not for that “generosity”, the Bush name would have been mud for all eternity, some of them would be in prison, and GWB wouldn’t have been able to win a race for dog catcher.

    Now I think we are seeing Bush thug tactics right out of the Rove playbook because The Bush Crime Syndicate are afraid they won’t be able to steal the election for that doddering old fool McInsane. They want to hedge their bets for a sure fire cover-upper of Bush crimes, Clinton. The Clintons are being pushed, backed, promoted, and even defended by the likes of Limbaugh and Bill Kristol.

    Yes it’s a conspiracy theory, but given the facts, not at all implausible.

  40. 40.

    jake

    It’s sad. I’m a lifelong Democrat and the party’s been taken over by these Obama people who say they want ‘change,’” gripes Linda of Horseheads, New York

    Are you sure that’s Horseheads?

    She and her friends got Sinclair to autograph their copies of the “Murder, Drugs, Gay Sex” flier.

    Right. That’s it. Get out. Go fuck yourself quietly under a bridge. Ta!

  41. 41.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    I just don’t get why MI & FL get to give the big middle finger to every other state in the union and yet play the victim role.

    Florida and Michigan aren’t playing the victim. The Clinton surrogates in Florida and Michigan are playing up the victim angle to foment discord and sabotage Obama’s chances in November.

    HRC can’t win, any seated delegates won’t mean shit, so there’s only the one aim left.

  43. 43.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    The committee is over an hour late coming back from lunch. So with almost 30 members and each one of them getting to speak we could be in for at least 5 more hours of this shit. Jesus.

    Its time for some tequila anejo. If I start sounding too crazy an hour or so from now its the tequila and the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of my rants. On the other hand if by some miracle I type something incredibly brilliant it was all me.

  44. 44.

    Otto Man

    According to this WaPo reporter, the unannounced superdelegates — the supposed audience for all this mind-numbing political theater — have essentially tuned it all out ever since the Indiana and NC primaries.

    I’ve spent the past several months talking to as many super-delegates as any reporter in America, I’d guess, since I cover on a day-to-day basis about 280 of them here on Capitol Hill.

    I hate saying this, because all the Clinton people are going to flip out and say, You’re biased, you’re biased, you’re biased. So go ahead and flip out if you want, but the simple basic truth is that the super-delegates stopped paying attention to the Clinton-Obama race about a couple days after the Indiana and North Carolina primaries.

    They’ve stopped paying attention to the primary, and instead they’re focused on an Obama-McCain matchup in November. That’s the basic, simple, definitive reality that has happened in this race. The “undecided” super-delegates at this moment are not going to “decide” any time soon, because to them the race is over, they’re just waiting for Clinton to drop out.

    This is turning into the Sixth Sense, where everyone realizes Hillary’s been dead for a while except her.

  45. 45.

    JL

    P lukasiak is over at emptywheel’s blog trying to explain to her how the MI rules work. He’s not winning.. lol Somehow I don’t miss him on the blog.

  46. 46.

    nightjar

    . lol Somehow I don’t miss him on the blog.

    Dealing with Pluk is like being stuck in an elevator full of used car salesmen.

  48. 48.

    Dennis - SGMM

    It’s funny to hear Clinton and her surrogates harp on the fact that, by their Rovian math, she has the lead in the popular vote. I’m sure that President Gore would agree.

  50. 50.

    Dennis - SGMM

    This is turning into the Sixth Sense, where everyone realizes Hillary’s been dead for a while except her.

    “I see dumb people.”

  51. 51.

    Blue Buddha

    Dennis – SGMM Says:

    It’s funny to hear Clinton and her surrogates harp on the fact that, by their Rovian math, she has the lead in the popular vote. I’m sure that President Gore would agree.

    The only way she has a “lead” in the popular vote is if you count FL & MI, conveniently leave out IA, NV, ME & WA, and assume that not a single one of the ~240,000 uncommitted voters in MI was going to vote for Obama anyway.

    And yet she’s the one whining about how “voters are being disenfranchised”.

  53. 53.

    Leo

    Keep in mind that HRC can’t win even with the most generous awarding of delegates so the Clinton folks are creating massive ill-will for absolutely nothing.

    Ex-fuckin’-actly.

    That’s what’s so insane here. If Clinton simply recognized this reality and dropped out (as Romney and Edwards both did), the delegates would be seated according to some kind of consensus and that would be that.

  55. 55.

    JL

    Blue, Depends on the meaning of disenfranchised, I guess. The Clintons have their own dictionary.

  56. 56.

    Blue Buddha

    JL Says:

    Blue, Depends on the meaning of disenfranchised, I guess. The Clintons have their own dictionary.
    May 31st, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    True. It all depends on what “is” is.

  57. 57.

    Dulcie

    They just announced on MSNBC that Barak Obama just resigned from Trinity United Church of Christ.

  59. 59.

    Ninerdave

    They’ve stopped paying attention to the primary, and instead they’re focused on an Obama-McCain matchup in November. That’s the basic, simple, definitive reality that has happened in this race. The “undecided” super-delegates at this moment are not going to “decide” any time soon, because to them the race is over, they’re just waiting for Clinton to drop out.

    Then fuckin’ declare and put this to bed you spineless pussies.

  61. 61.

    TheFountainHead

    I’m wondering if maybe some of these uncommitted superdelegates have stayed that way because they knew this all was coming.

  62. 62.

    Scotty

    They just announced on MSNBC that Barak Obama just resigned from Trinity United Church of Christ.

    You know that will turn into “Obama renounces his Christianity” somewhere along the way.

  63. 63.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Dealing with Pluk is like being stuck in an elevator full of used car salesmen.

    Pluk is the white shoes with a white belt of political discourse.

  64. 64.

    Blue Buddha

    TheFountainHead Says:

    I’m wondering if maybe some of these uncommitted superdelegates have stayed that way because they knew this all was coming.
    May 31st, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Part of me thinks that they’re waiting until all the RBC & primaries are finished, and then make their announcements. I expect a shitload of SD commitments coming in by the end of next week.

  65. 65.

    sunny

    Looks like Florida won’t be seated 100% and Clinton supporters are shouting “Denver! Denver! Denver!”

  66. 66.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Pluk is the white shoes with a white belt of political discourse.

    P. Tarluc?

  67. 67.

    El Cid

    15 – 12 motion to seat all FL delegates denied. sunny’s comment is correct.

  68. 68.

    TheFountainHead

    Wow. Watching this is insane. Like, this is what losing your mind must feel like.

  69. 69.

    Dug Jay

    According to the Clinton camp, he’s leaving Trinity Church to go rejoin and become a teacher at the madrassa he left years ago in Indonesia.

  72. 72.

    dreggas

    Am I the only one that thinks the Clinton supporters there were acting like total asses WRT Florida? No sense of decorum whatsoever.

  73. 73.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Am I the only one that thinks the Clinton supporters there were acting like total asses WRT Florida? No sense of decorum whatsoever.

    Pretty disgusting, but I expect it will get worse.

  75. 75.

    sunny

    no Dreggas, you are not the only one. It sounded like the kicking hissy fits of spoiled, bratty, overprivileged children.

  77. 77.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Ickes substituted his personal judgment for the entire state of Michigan when he voted for the sanctions in the first place. So his profanity-laced tirade doesn’t really carry any weight with me.

  78. 78.

    El Cid

    Harold Ickes on seating the MI delegations as recommended by Carl Levin but with each delegate having 1/2 vote: it’s “hijacking” the people’s votes. It’s this tiny unelected group speaking over 600,000 voters. He is “stunned” that we have the “gall” and “chutzpah” to substitute for those 600K voters — but “you bet your a** the process was flawed”, but since all elections are flawed, big whoop. So what, a lot of people didn’t vote? A lot of people did.

  80. 80.

    Dulcie

    Am I the only one that thinks the Clinton supporters there were acting like total asses WRT Florida? No sense of decorum whatsoever.

    I couldn’t understand what they were saying at first. I thought they were screaming “Attica!!! Attica!!!”

  82. 82.

    Ninerdave

    You know that will turn into “Obama renounces his Christianity” somewhere along the way.

    People still think he’s a Muslim…

  84. 84.

    El Cid

    Ickes: “Mrs. Clinton has instructed me to reserve her right to take this to the Credentials Committee.”

    There you go.

  85. 85.

    TheFountainHead

    Voting to “disenfranchise” voters is cool in 2007, but not 2008 if you’re Harold Ickes.

  87. 87.

    dreggas

    sunny Says:

    no Dreggas, you are not the only one. It sounded like the kicking hissy fits of spoiled, bratty, overprivileged children.

    I am so glad that this is televised and people can see just who the real spoiler supporters are.

  88. 88.

    JL

    Ickes is not group hugger.

    Small miracles. The idea of a group hug with Ickes is icky..

  89. 89.

    JL

    Ickes is not group hugger.

    Small miracles. The idea of a group hug with Ickes is icky..

  90. 90.

    sunny

    Icky threatening to take it to the Credentials Comm.

    I’m telling you folks, John, Rachel, and me have it right.

    It’s going all the way to Denver. Take it to the bank.

  91. 91.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    Blue Buddha Says:

    Sounds to me that Hillary supporters are just a bunch of DFHs whiners and crybabies.

    May 31st, 2008 at 5:57 pm

  93. 93.

    Shabbazz

    The Clinton supporters are acting nuttier than a porta potty at the peanut festival.

  96. 96.

    SamFromUtah

    It’s pretty ugly when old white people riot.

    Somehow this makes me think of a Band-Aid with a purple heart drawn on it. I can’t imagine why.

  98. 98.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    All that applause by the committee after Al Roker finished speaking was a collective smackdown of Ickes.

  99. 99.

    gypsy howell

    I don’t think Hillary’s supporters in the room, with all their outbursts and hootin’ and hollerin’, are helping her at this point.

    Go ahead, take it to Denver. By then, she, and her dead-ender supporters, will be shown to be complete friggin’ loons. It’s only going to get worse for them.

  100. 100.

    Dennis - SGMM

    It’s going all the way to Denver. Take it to the bank.

    Hillary will take it to the courts. She’s just as delusional as Bush at this point.

  101. 101.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    Its over. Clinton netted 24 Pledged Delegates. Obama still has the majority of the Pledged Delegates. (he will have approx 1753 with 1734 being the majority of all PD’s.)

    Shorter Harold Ickes: Waaaaaaaaahhhhhh!

    Ickes statement for Clinton about taking this to the Credentials Committee is actually good for Obama. The SD’s will now move enmasse to Obama. It really is over.

  102. 102.

    sunny

    Looks like 59-69 MI solution has passed but one of the members has asked for a repeat of the vote count.

  103. 103.

    AnneLaurie

    I am so glad that this is televised and people can see just who the real spoiler supporters are.

    Because thank FSM for our unbiased media which values facts and justice over mere entertaining pictures!

    Yeah, there are a lot of Hillary supporters willing to make themselves targets for mockery on the teebee. How fortunate that we here at Balloon Juice have never let ourselves be swayed from the light of pure reason in favor of padded statistics, or flight suits.

  104. 104.

    gypsy howell

    Once again, the vote doesn’t go Hillary’s way and her supporters refuse to submit to the will of the voters.

  105. 105.

    dreggas

    Again let me say I am glad this is televised. I want youtubes the next time any asshat talks about Obama supporters.

  106. 106.

    JL

    Ickes and Hillary would prefer another 4 years of the Bush Administration than unite. I’m not sure that our economy can take it.

  107. 107.

    TheFountainHead

    This is like the Twlight Zone. I am really glad I had the patience to watch this. Also, FYI, I think C-SPAN is going to replay all of this in prime time tonight, or in other words, as soon as it wraps up.

  109. 109.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    Ha ha ha ha! I guess the crazy Clinton supporters out in the hallway are shouting “Don’t taze me bro!” at the security guards. Jesus I hope someone posts a Youtube video.

  110. 110.

    TheFountainHead

    And the Hillary supporters are still yelling “Madame President!”

  111. 111.

    w vincentz

    Actually, this was very cool. FL and MI get their proposals approved. Barack advocated for seating them. Fowler (Hill supporter) came out for unity.
    Overall, good day for Barack.
    Game almost over for the Hillary crowd (geesh, the rioted!)
    Ickes will hold out, but heck, he goes way back with the clintons (deputy chief of staff for Bill), so I didn’t expect much from him.

  112. 112.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Denver! Denver! You go, girl! Push it to the limit. That way you and your lame-ass husband can be relieved of the unbearable tension of pretending to be Democrats.

  113. 113.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    Ickes and Hillary would prefer another 4 years of the Bush Administration than unite. I’m not sure that our economy can take it.

    No, it can’t. But when you have $109 million in the bank I suspect you get a little cavalier about the economy.

  115. 115.

    sunny

    Clinton statement: “We reserve the right to appeal this decision to the Credentials Committee”.

    Scorched earth, just as we suspected.

  116. 116.

    Conservatively Liberal

    I like Chuck Todd’s comment that the DNC is no longer under the control of Bill and Hillary, that this is ‘Obama’s party now’. I can live with that…lol!

    Whether or not Hillary and her supporters will admit it, this is over next week and that is the end of it. Obama has an insurmountable lead, and no matter how they parse it he is indeed winning.

    Hillary’s supporters were fairly disruptive at the end there, and listening to a bunch of ladies chanting “DENVER! DENVER!” wasn’t really that impressive.

    Funny thing about Democracy though, it seems that Hillary’s supporters don’t like it very much. Rules? They don’t seem to like them much either. Same with their gal losing, they don’t seem very happy about it.

    The comments at Hillaryis44 are priceless, they are in total meltdown.

    Dealing with Reading Pluk‘s blathering screeds is like being stuck in an elevator full of used car salesmen using a power drill ventilate your head.

    Improved.

  117. 117.

    croatoan

    assume that not a single one of the ~240,000 uncommitted voters in MI was going to vote for Obama anyway

    Their position was completely unfair. Exit polls showed that 35% of the people who voted in the Michigan primary would’ve voted for Obama if he’d been on the ballot.

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