Clinton will concede tonight.
Unless she doesn’t.
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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.
Come on, man.
The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.
Let’s bury these fuckers at the polls 2 years from now.
Their freedom requires your slavery.
Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.
“Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.”
Hey hey, RFK, how many kids did you kill today?
Optimism opens the door to great things.
Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?
I really should read my own blog.
Speaker Mike Johnson is a vile traitor to the House and the Constitution.
Consistently wrong since 2002
If you cannot answer whether trump lost the 2020 election, you are unfit for office.
No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.
Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.
They punch you in the face and then start crying because their fist hurts.
There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.
Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.
These days, even the boring Republicans are nuts.
Stay strong, because they are weak.
I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.
Their shamelessness is their super power.
Republicans: The threats are dire, but my tickets are non-refundable!
Republicans do not trust women.
Zifnab
OMG! OMG! OMG!
KNEWS! I CAN HAZ IT?!
ThymeZone
I’ve heard no refutation of the CNN story from yesterday that her campaign has no published schedule after today. That staffers are being funded for one last trip today, either home, or to the rally tonight, and then they are on their own.
Her campaign appears to be over. It just remains now to see how she will package that up for us.
4tehlulz
BREAKING: MADE YOU LOOK! Nyaaa NYaaa.
/Cable News
DonnaInMichigan
Well so far, I have received the memo that HELL is going to be freezing over, so my best guess is that she will concede only that, Obama has the delegates, that she still has the popular vote. Meaning he will be the “party’s choice”, she will however be the “people’s choice”. That is how she will concede to anything.
Oh yea, and her speech will be another attempt at getting people to donate @ hillaryclinton.com. And that she does plan to suspend her campaign, however that doesn’t mean she has given up….in case yanno, “something bad happens” to Obama…
dmsilev
She’ll probably “suspend her campaign”, which translates to “keep raising money to pay off those debts, and keep hoping that Obama gets hit by a meteor/Larry Johnson actually produces the infamous tape of which he blathers”.
Right now, I’d settle for anything that gets Terry McAuliffe off my TV screen.
-dms
Mary
My prediction: she’ll say tonight that he has the delegates but she has the popular vote. Her campaign will be suspended as of tonight.
There is a chance that she is getting good advice and/or heavy pressure to concede and will do so by Thursday, going for anything she can get in the meantime, such as the VP nom, a cabinet position, heading the health insurance implementation, or a big speech at the convention.
It is also still bloody likely that she will suspend her campaign and will make another fight at the convention if she has any reason to believe Obama has been dinged heavily between now and August.
Meh. I’ve started drinking already.
Ripley
She’ll throw her leg up on the retaining wall, tell the judges her lace broke and ask for a do-over.
libarbarian
What does it mean to “suspend your campaign” after the last primary is over? Why would you maintain an expensive organization when there is nothing more for it to do?
Call me cynical but I think this is more Clintonian language parsing. Her “campaign” is over because there are no more primaries, but I don’t think she is going to just fall in line and really stop trying to influence the party.
libarbarian
Suspend campaign = disband the formal, legal, organization.
Suspend campaign != accept the results as final and transition to helping the winner like a good teammate.
Skalite
Seriously.
First that hockey game last night, now this.
A Detroit fan just can’t TAKE this back and forth crap for much longer.
dmsilev
You need the expensive organization if you’re going to have any hope of winning the general. Which, after all, is the real prize. Obama is already refocusing his organization on general-election states (ie giving a big speech in St. Paul MN tonight), and if Clinton was going to seriously campaign after today, she’d be doing the same instead of giving her advance teams plane tickets home.
-dms
Otto Man
Game, set, and match.
D.N. Nation
Meanwhile, over at Taylor Marsh:
Class acts, these people.
Velvet Elvis
Reminds me of of junkies I’ve known. She claims she’s going to quit until she gets a bit of a jones and then it’s back to sucking cock for Dilaudid.
Caidence (fmr. Chris)
So, all the cable news organizations were prepared for her concession, and then McAuliffe says “what concession?”
So it’s not enough for Hillary to blatantly lie herself into her own reality a’la Bush v2, but also to broadcast expectations and break them readily, publicly.
There will be a democratic contender for her seat next election, and I will vote for him or her. She is a stain upon NY.
libarbarian
From Sully:
WTF does it mean to be “associated with” the Koran?
It’s weak enough when they say someone is associated with so-and-so, but what the hell does it mean to be associated with a fucking object?
Doug H. (Fausto no more)
It means the speaker is mentally impaired and should be seperated from any sharp objects.
Barbara
I am guessing that the money issue is now front and center and there is no easy solution. I think that additional contributions can only be made to an active campaign, so withdrawing might have implications that suspension would not. I mean, it’s not like anybody could have predicted that this might happen, well, anyone who defines their interests within a time span never exceeding one or two weeks.
But that’s why smart candidates drop out when they realize that there is no way for them to fund a campaign except with debt, from themselves, their vendors, or someone else. It’s not easy to find a legal solution to retire campaign debt. The only thing she has going for her is that as a current officeholder, it can be funnelled to her senate campaign.
montysano
Harriet Christian says Obama is an “inadequate black male”. Other Clinton supporters seem to fear this.
So…. which is it?
ethan salto
Through some extremely high-level contacts in the Clinton campaign, I’ve managed to obtain exclusive advance footage of Clinton’s concession speech this evening in New York.
I’m perfectly happy to share this with the Balloon Juice readership, but please refrain from sending it out to larger media entities.
Dennis - SGMM
Things I am already tired of hearing:
Clinton is a pants suit filled with anger and victimhood which she managed to convey to many of her supporters. She would bring slightly more to an Obama ticket than a potted plant would.
mantis
I have a theory on this. First, anonymous campaign officials tell reporters that she is conceding (something), then when the story comes out the campaign goes ballistic denying it, and decries the media for trying to push her out of the race. This filters down to her supporters who go nuts, saying it’s sexist (everything is) and wrong, etc. Then they ask for more donations to keep Clinton’s campaign going against all the forces in the world (the now evil media, Obama, reality) that want her to quit, sexistly.
It’s all a ploy to get enough money to pay back debts. After today the only people she needs to persuade are the supers, and you don’t need advertising or travel money for that. It’s all about the debt.
About the sexism, I defer to Nigel.
grumpy realist
My take on it is first, we got message mixture between the medium-level non-crazy crowd that realize It’s All Over, Folks, and the high-level batshit-level crowd knowing they have totally burned their boats and want to do the political equivalent of Samson pulling down the place. (“If we can’t get it, we’ll make sure you can’t either, nyah nyah nyah!”) Pretty childish, but then this entire politico-media system seems to be run on a high-school level.
Second, Hillary is still hoping to pull in $$$ to pay off all the debts–it gets much much harder once she officially concedes. As it now stands, she can still wheedle $50 checks from the Diehard Optimist crowd. Who’s going to throw $$ her way once she’s left the field?
Third, she can use the threat of dragging this out incessantly/making a stink at the convention/etc. to bludgeon chase/power/whatever out of the supposed leaders of this crowd. Too bad the Democratic Party heads have the spines of jellyfish, otherwise they would play hardball right back at her and say ANY behavior aside from graceful concession and rounding up support for Obama will result in her being blackballed on Capitol Hill and in any political campaigns she runs in the future.
Sheesh–it’s just like dealing with any screaming 3 year old in a tantrum–you spank them and send them to their rooms.
evie
She’s never quitting. People might as well stop looking for it.
Sergio
If she concedes I am going McCain.
Judy
Hillary reminds me of a woman whose man wants to leave but she clings to him begging him not to go. She is making herself look pathetic to everyone I know. There is no shame in admitting defeat – only in clinging to a “dead horse” Go gracefully Hillary
Tracy Oliver
The media is trying to pressure Hillary out of this race. They are publishing stories of Hillary conceding when she has no intention of doing so.
If Hillary concedes there really will be no general election contest anyway because Obama can’t win.
McCain is the media’s choice for the next president. I think that the main reason for this choice is because he will do absolutely nothing productive for this country.
He will provide meaningless support to the status quo, continue pushing for more time to achieve a victory in Iraq, and cover up any evidence of missing POW’s in Vietnam.
Fannie
There you go again, pushing her out. It’s not over!
She will emerge the winner of this election.
Gary Bonner
OK This race is WAY too stressful for me to continue to follow, so consider this my parting comment on this circus that is posing as “election coverage.”
Here is why Hillary shouldn’t become President. She is a good politician, but she doesn’t actually stand for anything and she doesn’t actually have any core beliefs. She stands for what ever will get her elected.
Think about it. Her campaign was failing in the beginning, because she ran on being the “experienced strong leader – commander-in-chief” type of leader who would be ready on “day one” to take the world stage and kick butt. That didn’t work. She floundered for a while, conducted a few more “focus groups,” hired a few more pollsters and figured out how to tap into the worst instincts of the remaining voters. She became the “champion of the ‘hard working white people’ and the ‘blue collar’ baroness. It’s not that she believes anything in particular, but that she figured out how to “connect” with a group of people by telling them what they wanted to hear.
Obama, on the other hand, has remained remarkably consistant about what his core beliefs are. You might not agree with him, but I have not seen any attempts on his part to “re-invent himself” during the campaign. When ever I hear a politician is trying to “re-invent” themselves, it almost always means, they are transitioning into – morphing into – a fresh new series of lies about who they really are.
It sickens me that the media plays along and refuses to call Clinton on her “blue collar” make over. Before Pennsylvania, I never saw Clinton wearing powder blue pantsuits with too much eye shaddow. Since Pennsylvania she has even changed her accent. This is rediculous.
Wake up America. Our leaders should be chosen from among the very small handful of sincere leaders who just happen to have ideas and approaches that capture the imagination of the American people and propel us forward into a positive future.
The first Clinton Presidency was a disaster because the Clintons did not have a set of core beliefs. Thier strategy was to morph themselves into what ever public opinion seemed to expect. They made no real attempt to mold and craft consensus. That type of amoral approach to governing is extremely dangerous and lends itself to all manor of excess which eventually lead to Bill’s impeachment.
Don’t be fooled friends.
Gary Bonner, Baltimore, Maryland
mimi
If people want to vote for McCain cause Hillary is loosing that is their right. However it implies that their selection is not based on issues because no two people could be furher apart on ideas than McCain and Hillary. And no two people could be closer than Hillary and Obama. But as I said this is a free country one can choose whomever for whatever reason even if it defies logic but then one should not complain when gas prices keep rising the army is in Iraq for 100 years and all the other thins we have had to endure.
DougJ
Either way, this is bad news for Democrats.
Tracy Oliver
The country is not ready for change and I think Gary Bonner’s message really illustrates point.
“OK This race is WAY too stressful for me to continue to follow…”
Don’t worry Gary, you will not see a woman or black man in the white house any time soon. You also don’t have to hide behind the core beliefs and values facade argument anymore, that was last election.
kjk
The mainstream media just proves every day with every story that they are not to be trusted. Now it’s the Associated Press ( again ). Hillary’s campaign manager says they are full of CRAP ( again ).
It’s this very same off-the-edge media that dubbed Obama their fair haired boy early on without doing any hard reporting on him which gave him the boost he needed to even be anywhere near Hillary.
Slick speeches might get you (close) to a party nomination without even winning mainstream America ( Which Hillary HAS DONE and Obama has NOT ) but it the whole ‘fair haired boy’ thing and more slick speeches written by other people won’t get you the change of address to Pennsylvania Ave.
NO ONE can achieve the nomination on the first roll call at the convention since the super-delegates are NOT reuquired to stand up and cast votes. That happens behind closed doors at the DNC discretion. That means that, according to the rules ( which Obama is so fond of insisting everyone MUST follow ) that after the first roll call fails to noiminate a candidate… ALL DELEGATES ARE RELEASED AND FREE TO VOTE FOR WHOEVER THEY WANT. ALL OF THEM.
So much for the numbers game the media has been playing.
All bets are off at that point.
Hillary will win on the SECOND ROLL CALL at the convention.
All she has to do is show up.
GO HILLARY!
Lee
I would be very sorry to see Hillary drop out. She is the better candidate, and she would be a much better President. So now I guess we get to hear the Obama supporters accuse the McCain supporters of being racists, every-time one of them disagrees with their candidate. Don’t the Obama supporters understand that it’s not racism, it’s the fact that their candidate lacks judgement, lacks experience, has spent his entire campaign criticizing, but has put forth no solutions … and, has surrounded himself with
a continuous precession of despicable anti-American racists. Although I’m a registered Democrat, but like Harriet Christian – youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s – I can barely recognize today’s highjacked democratic party … and, I feel like it’s moved away from me … that’s why, like millions of other democrats … if Obama becomes the democratic candidate, I’m voting for John McCain in November.
grumpy realist
Sheesh, given some of the comments above, I think I should start moving my $$ into Euros and Chinese RMB….
Any of you who think that the US economy wouldn’t fall flat on its face if McCain pulls an attack on Iran doesn’t understand economics. Hello, Straits of Hormuz? Hello, $300/bbl oil price shock?
Besides, given the amount of $$ and manpower we’ve squandered on Iraq, who’s going to fight it and who’s going to pay for it? McCain, as per his admission, has absolutely no knowledge of economics. (His silly proposal about the federal gasoline tax shows that.) Yeah, right, put it on the Chinese credit card….which works until they say “by the way, we’re going to take over Taiwan now, and no, you’re not going to do anything about it, because as soon as we stop buying your gov’t bonds, your economy turns turtle. Have a nice day.”
I ask, have you all gone mad?
FS
None of the rumors are true, except the one about Hillary giving birth to Angelina Jolie’s twins on tonight’s evening news.