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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    Well, he showed up on one of the morning shows yesterday wearing a Hawaiian shirt and brandishing a bottle of rum. At a guess, I’d say he opened and emptied that bottle.

    -dms

  2. 2.

    Mary

    I saw that last night and … yeah. Self-parody? Narcissism? Did he walk onto that set knowing that Jon was going to put him in a little vest and give him a cup of change to shake while he cranked the hurdy-gurdy?

  3. 3.

    PaulW

    Well, it’s not performance art…

    It could be a clip from the new Jimmy Fallon travesty Hollywood Thinks I’m Funny but then again no…

  6. 6.

    Jake

    I can’t help but like Terry. Yes, he’s trying to tell everyone that up is down, but still, I think he’s fundamentally one of the good guys.

    As for Penn, Ickes, or Davis? Not so much.

  9. 9.

    Chris Johnson

    I thought it was funny :)

    It’s tempting to admire his sheer balls and insanity, too. It’s the essence of funny- he’s like one of the old silent comedians, ridiculous, probably knows it, and yet he is utterly and totally undaunted.

    I would have cheered him as he waved to the audience, even as I firmly voted against him, his candidate, and everything he stands for :) all that and I’d still give him a ‘yaaaay!’ when he wanted one. He’s got some kind of style, that’s for damn sure.

  10. 10.

    Squirrel2634

    I couldn’t figure it out, either. He’s said so many delusional things lately that I can’t tell if he’s being serious or not. One hopes that he hasn’t gone that far off the deep end, but then again, Hillary’s speech last night did sound more like a victory speech than a concession speech.

    To think – that man used to run our party. No wonder we sucked at elections.

  11. 11.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    Baghdad Bob Lives!

    During McAuliffe’s tenure as head of DNC the Democrats lost Congressional seats in every election and George Bush was elected President. And now he’s driven the Clinton campaign into the ditch and can’t get out. Aw, shucks.

  13. 13.

    dorkboy

    JStew’s 2 for 2 this week. This McCauliffe self-parody was funny and his was the best McClellend “interview” of the lot.

    OT…McBush is begging Obama to the “joint town halls” at the AIPAC conference right now. Just asking, is this really something that he can use to gain support?

  15. 15.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    C’mon folks.. look at his eyes. He is clearly coked up. Drumming his hands on the table, moving all over the place. And the eyes.

  16. 16.

    LanceThruster

    Just Some Fuckhead Says:

    Cocaine.

    I was thinking the downside of a meth bender but you might be right as the coke probably goes better with the Chivas Regal. Though as has been noted, he was carting around a quart of rum.

  17. 17.

    greynoldsct00

    He showed up on Morning Joe today with a bottle of rum as well, and then proceed to dance around the question of whether Hillary would acknowledge her loss, etc. Hair of the dog I guess if he was doing it last night too. I just find him too annoying.

  18. 18.

    Sasha

    If I didn’t know better, I would have sworn that his performance was scripted by the TDS staff and rehearsed with Stewart for some time.

  19. 19.

    greynoldsct00

    OT…McBush is begging Obama to the “joint town halls” at the AIPAC conference right now. Just asking, is this really something that he can use to gain support?

    Oh please, oh please, I can’t WAIT to hear Obama and McOldFart speaking together…you think McCain’s speech last night was bad?

  21. 21.

    Incertus

    Rosali,
    It was obviously a joke, and a retort to Stewart’s version of Clinton saying “What the fuck?”

    But yeah, McAuliffe looked like he’d decided if he was going out, he was going out in a blaze of something.

  23. 23.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    McBush is begging Obama to the “joint town halls” at the AIPAC conference right now. Just asking, is this really something that he can use to gain support?

    The Obama camp will never agree to the format of “sit in comfy overstuffed chairs with blanket on legs.” It’s a non-starter.

  25. 25.

    TheFountainHead

    Not too many people render Jon Stewart dumbfounded….says something about the level of insanity here.

  26. 26.

    Gus

    I think he’s fundamentally one of the good guys.

    Really? I think the slime just drips off the guy.

  27. 27.

    Paddy

    OT…McBush is begging Obama to the “joint town halls” at the AIPAC conference right now. Just asking, is this really something that he can use to gain support?

    McCain seems to think it’s 1960, and in order for us to find out what the differences are between Obama and he are they are going to have to “travel the country in joint town hall meetings”. Someone give the geriatric fossil a clue please? It’s as if Pat Boone was daring U2 to tour with him. Honey, Barack don’t need you around to highlight the differences.

  28. 28.

    Rick Taylor

    I honestly have no idea what to make of this.

    That about sums up my experience of the Clinton campaign for the last month or so. The one thing I feel semi-confident of is Clinton wants to leave her options open and keep the uncertainty as to what she’ll do going as long as possible. She’s succeeding. Plus I don’t think she’s actually capable of campaigning her heart out for the Democratic nominee a she promises if it isn’t here. There’s just too much ego for her to campaign for anyone but herself. I’ll be delighted to be proven wrong.

  29. 29.

    Dennis - SGMM

    It reminded me of this.
    (For the YouTube-impaired) it’s the scene from “Corky Romano” where Corky gets a huge dose of cocaine and then addresses the Junior Crime Fighters.)

  30. 30.

    JZ

    Terry McAuliffe 2008 is a product of cable news. His evolution into raving lunatic was encouraged by the cable yakkers who ultimately see politics as an entertaining ruse and appreciate the fact Terry is winking to them as he lays out the crazy. He is the post-modern spinmeister, a man so unabashed in his b.s. that you have to stand back and admire what he’s created. He’s like Stephen Colbert, only his show’s about to get canceled.

  31. 31.

    Jake

    Sort of OT, but I found this post by Hillary Rosen over on HuffPo to be quite encouraging.

    I’m sure many of you have seen Rosen on TV. She was on MSNBC just the other day talking about how Hillary could still win both MT and SD. She’s no foam-at-the-mouth supporter, but a pretty strong HRC backer nonetheless.

    Read the HuffPo piece. She’s disappointed HRC didn’t get the nomination, but seems even more disappointed that Hillary didn’t do the right thing and concede last night. Here’s the money quote:

    Instead she left her supporters empty, Obama’s angry, and party leaders trashing her. She said she was stepping back to think about her options. She is waiting to figure out how she would “use” her 18 million voters.

    But not my vote. I will enthusiastically support Barack Obama’s campaign. Because I am not a bargaining chip. I am a Democrat.

  32. 32.

    Michael D.

    Just Some Fuckhead Says:

    Cocaine.

    I wouldn’t say that, but there was definitely something! I was actually going to say he must have been quite drunk.

  33. 33.

    crw

    Oh please, oh please, I can’t WAIT to hear Obama and McOldFart speaking together…you think McCain’s speech last night was bad?

    Unfortunately, extemporaneous speaking is not one of Obama’s stronger suits. He’s usually not horrible, mind you (usually – some of his debate performances were awful). He just isn’t dazzling the way he is in a set piece speech. So I don’t think the comparison in a town hall meeting format would be quite so lop sided.

    OTOH, McCain is hindered with truly discredited policy, and there’s his famous temper. So Obama would probably still come out looking better.

  34. 34.

    Rick Taylor

    Sort of OT, but I found this post by Hillary Rosen over on HuffPo to be quite encouraging.

    That piece was awesome. I also liked this part.

    So, I am also so very disappointed at how she has handled this last week. I know she is exhausted and she had pledged to finish the primaries and let every state vote before any final action. But by the time she got on that podium last night, she knew it was over and that she had lost. I am sure I was not alone in privately urging the campaign over the last two weeks to use the moment to take her due, pass the torch and cement her grace. She had an opportunity to soar and unite. She had a chance to surprise her party and the nation after the day-long denials about expecting any concession and send Obama off on the campaign trail of the general election with the best possible platform. I wrote before how she had a chance for her “Al Gore moment.” And if she had done so, the whole country ALL would be talking today about how great she is and give her her due.

  35. 35.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    I was actually going to say he must have been quite drunk.

    Yeah, as evidenced by his poor diction, slow responses and loquacious style. :)

  36. 36.

    passerby

    This is what becomes of one who sells his soul to something other than the truth. He no longer has any integrity, no core, no keel, no sense of how others perceive him.

    He backed the wrong horse. Tactics that used to work are no longer effective in the least. The populace has caught on to this after 8 years of bald face lies.

    We’re more jaded now and cannot be so easily manipulated. The crazed Hillary supporters, e.g. Harriet Christian, are not aware of how they are being used for Hillary’s expedient means.

    McAuliff is the mouthpiece and bandleader of this strategery and he knows he’s a naked failure.

    I don’t think he is to be admired, he is a very painful-to-watch cautionary tale. Pitiable.

    T

  37. 37.

    ThymeZone

    It’s as if Pat Boone was daring U2 to tour with him. Honey, Barack don’t need you around to highlight the differences.

    Win.

  38. 38.

    Dennis - SGMM

    OTOH, McCain is hindered with truly discredited policy, and there’s his famous temper. So Obama would probably still come out looking better.

    McCain has already made a colossal blunder in surrounding himself with the sort of neocon fools who enthusiastically clapped their flippers at every Bush lie, mis-statement, blunder and gaffe. He is that rare piece of political work whose chances would improve in direct proportion to how little was seen and heard of him. To push for arenas where his age, bankrupt ideas and bizarre speaking style will be directly contrasted with Obama just goes to prove that he and his campaign are out of touch with reality.

  39. 39.

    firebrand

    John Cole Says:

    …

    I honestly have no idea what to make of this.

    I do. Terry McAuliffe has finally and completely lost his ever-loving mind.

  40. 40.

    The Other Steve

    Oh, it’s all over the intertubes!

    David Brooks on MSNBC

    Obama‘s problem is he doesn‘t seem like a guy who can go into an Applebee‘s salad bar and people think he fits in naturally there. He has to change to be more like that Applebee‘s guy and as he‘s done that he‘s become much more transactional.

    Eugene Robinson’s response is good

    He‘s not an Applebee‘s guy? Is he an Olive Garden guy? I tend to take it more seriously when it‘s delivered by people who actually eat at Applebee‘s more than once in a decade.

    The thing is… Applebee’s doesn’t have a salad bar.

    I love how condescending Brooks is about regular people when the guy stinks of elitism to hog heaven.

  41. 41.

    Dennis - SGMM

    I do. Terry McAuliffe has finally and completely lost his ever-loving mind.

    Well, how would you feel if you’d been chairman of the DNC for four years, signed on with a candidate who possessed all of the advantages that Clinton did and then lost? Because Democrats don’t do wingnut welfare, McAuliffe will soon be reduced to standing on freeway off ramps with a cardboard sign reading “Will do politics for food.”

  42. 42.

    The Other Steve

    Sort of OT, but I found this post by Hillary Rosen over on HuffPo to be quite encouraging.

    A very good article, thanks for pointing that out.

  43. 43.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    McAuliffe will soon be reduced to standing on freeway off ramps with a cardboard sign reading “Will do politics for food.”

    No way. That sleazy fucker will just try to steal items from the Applebee’s salad bad when no one is looking.

  45. 45.

    SmilingPolitely

    McCain wants to ride Obama’s wave and pretend he isn’t another Bush-y; all the while, Johnny-boy has the likes of Karl Rove and other Bush/Cheney hacks whispering in his ears.

    And from June to the August Democratic Convention? Can the Republicans and Hillary’s campaign be any more transparent?

    Win-win for McCain/Hillary. Not so much for Obama.

  46. 46.

    jibeaux

    Not 3 days ago Hilary Rosen was arguing HRC just needed to stress that electability argument to the supers. (It didn’t work the first 691 times they tried it, but the 692nd’s the charm!) Still, I’m glad that she’s issued herself a passport back from Hillaryland and into reality. I hope she finds some folks to bring with her.

  47. 47.

    The Other Steve

    W00T!

    Montana choose it’s GOP candidate for Senate in the primary last night.

    The guy selected? He ran against Baucus in 2002 for the same Senate seat… as a Green Candidate. He’s apparently ran for office a dozen times, and never wins. He’s the old fart you throw out there when you got nothing else.

    And it was a competitive primary with FIVE CANDIDATES.

    BWAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!

  48. 48.

    Dennis - SGMM

    He’s the old fart you throw out there when you got nothing else.

    The Republicans are indeed a top-down party.

  49. 49.

    dorkboy

    It’s as if Pat Boone was daring U2 to tour with him.

    Isn’t U2 one of the foreigns? Gimme steady old Pat Boone any day! That’s some music you can set your watch to…check that, your grandfather clock to.

  50. 50.

    KevinD

    David Brooks on MSNBC

    Obama‘s problem is he doesn‘t seem like a guy who can go into an Applebee‘s salad bar and people think he fits in naturally there. He has to change to be more like that Applebee‘s guy and as he‘s done that he‘s become much more transactional.

    Do people who go to Applebee’s use words like “transactional”?

  51. 51.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Do people who go to Applebee’s use words like “transactional”?

    Only when they’re discussing magnetohydrodynamics.

  52. 52.

    Phoenix Woman

    John, RE: Obama’s appearance at the Xcel Center last night —

    Not only did he appear at the planned Ground Zero for the RNC, his visit was just two days after the Republican Party of Minnesota ended their own state party convention, complete with such luminaries as Karl Rove and Tom “silcone breast implants are good for women” Coburn. As somebody said on Daily Kos, it was the classic “im in ur base killin ur dOOdz” thing. (It was made even better when McCain dared set up his own attempt at pwnage, only to trip over his own tongue.)

  53. 53.

    Rick Taylor

    I honestly have no idea what to make of this.

    Actually I think it stinks. He’s basically saying hahaha, you know all that bullshit i’ve been feeding you all this time? Well I knew it was bullshit all along.

  54. 54.

    Dennis - SGMM

    (It was made even better when McCain dared set up his own attempt at pwnage, only to trip over his own tongue.)

    That was an understandable error: McCain was so involved with shaving his nose and ears that he forgot to shave his tongue.

  55. 55.

    PanAmerican

    The campaign collapsed and Hillary is now in debt to her eyeballs. Not just the FEC stuff – God only knows what and to whom they owe off the books. Bill won’t be flying around in his own 727 anymore. Underlings like Lisa Caputo will get whacked from Citigroup in short order.

    So yeah, they’re pretty well fucked and freaking out.

    The real question is were they intentionally bled dry after Super Tuesday?

  57. 57.

    SmilingPolitely

    P.lukasiak via Talk Left comments:

    personally, I was much more impressed with McCain’s sincere tribute to Hillary than I was with what Hillary said about Obama, or Obama about Hillary.

    Right now, the only way that Obama can fix things is to make it clear that there IS NO NOMINEE, that the nomination will not be determined until the convention, that the superdelegates can and should feel free to choose the person that they think makes the best candidate and President, and that he is preparing to run IN CASE he is the nominee.

    Now, I know that this is not in his character… but if he wants the wounds to heal, that is what he needs to say — AND ACT like he means it.

  58. 58.

    ThymeZone

    To push for arenas where his age, bankrupt ideas and bizarre speaking style will be directly contrasted with Obama just goes to prove that he and his campaign are out of touch with reality.

    They are exceedingly desperate. This is a Hail Mary pass at the start of the game.

    The only possible rationale for this is that they want to draw out Obama and mine for material to use against him later. They are willing to take a serious poll hit to do it, which would underline the level of their desperation.

  59. 59.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Now, I know that this is not in his character… but if he wants the wounds to heal, that is what he needs to say—AND ACT like he means it.

    Shorter P.lukasiak:

    If Obama is serious about winning, ne needs to let Hillary win.

  60. 60.

    firebrand

    SmilingPolitely Says:

    P.lukasiak via Talk Left comments:

    personally, I was much more impressed with McCain’s sincere tribute to Hillary than I was with what Hillary said about Obama, or Obama about Hillary.

    Right now, the only way that Obama can fix things is to make it clear that there IS NO NOMINEE, that the nomination will not be determined until the convention, that the superdelegates can and should feel free to choose the person that they think makes the best candidate and President, and that he is preparing to run IN CASE he is the nominee.

    Now, I know that this is not in his character… but if he wants the wounds to heal, that is what he needs to say—AND ACT like he means it.

    So, in other words, p.luk is basically being the same raving lunatic that he has been for the past few months. Wholly unsurprising.

  61. 61.

    ThymeZone

    the only way that Obama can fix things is to make it clear

    If fucking lukasiak were a spoof, he could not possibly write more hilarious and delusional material.

    Man, what a complete intellectual collapse we witnessed with that guy. Fucking unbelievable.

    Obama, fix things? He is sitting on an almost certain election to the White House right now. He doesn’t have to fix anything. His opponent is a corpse.

  62. 62.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Shorter P.lukasiak:

    If Obama is serious about winning, he needs to let Hillary win.

  63. 63.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Isn’t importing a pluk comment from another blog sort of like importing dog shit by air?

  66. 66.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Isn’t importing a pluk comment from another blog sort of like importing dog shit by air?

    It’s kinda like going out and catching a venereal disease instead of waiting for your wife to bring one home.

  67. 67.

    greynoldsct00

    Isn’t importing a pluk comment from another blog sort of like importing dog shit by air?

    It’s kinda like going out and catching a venereal disease instead of waiting for your wife to bring one home.

    ROFLMAO!!!

  68. 68.

    Neal

    Isn’t importing a pluk comment from another blog sort of like importing dog shit by air?

    It’s kinda like going out and catching a venereal disease instead of waiting for your wife to bring one home.

    Bottled water all over the keyboard. Holy shit.

  69. 69.

    YellowJournalism

    The entire time I watched this I waited for him to rip off a mask and reveal that he was really Tom Cruise in disguise.

  70. 70.

    Chuck Butcher

    I watched McAuliff run the DNC into the dirt with the logical extension of the 50%+1 and DLC big money concentration. Howard Dean could not have been more of a contrast and he’s had to fight the McAuliff hangers on every foot of the way. Dean showed results and then Obama picked it up and took an underdog candidacy to the win.

    I am unamused by Terry. Yes, I think he has enough sense of humor (I’ve seen it) to caricature himself on a comedy show. As a disclaimer I’ve been a part of the fight to undo his damage to DNC so I do have a dog in that fight.

  71. 71.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    dorkboy Says:

    OT…McBush is begging Obama to the “joint town halls” at the AIPAC conference right now. Just asking, is this really something that he can use to gain support?

    June 4th, 2008 at 10:54 am

    McCain thinks this is a clever way to get access to the large crowds Obama draws. After last night, McCain and the Republicans know they won’t be able to compete with the visuals an Obama rally projects so they’re trying to get McCain a piece of the action by sponging off of Obama and have “joint” appearances.

  72. 72.

    libarbarian

    He is sitting on an almost certain election to the White House right now

    Lets not all start sucking each others dicks just yet.

  74. 74.

    Conservatively Liberal

    p.luk p.hukstain is a blathering idiot. He couldn’t argue his way out of a wet paper bag. He went off into the deep end of the Hillary pool using the high dive, but he didn’t notice the pool was empty.

    Now he’s just another chunk of roadkill on the information superhighway. The best thing we can do is keep running him over until the road crews come along to scrape the remains off the roadway.

    Terry is a scumbag, and the sooner he slinks away and disappears into the pages of history, the better for all of us. I have a feeling he is going to try and find a way to survive this, and if he does then we have not heard the last of him.

    In fact, I bet we have not heard the last of anything from these people yet. No way.

  75. 75.

    JGabriel

    Libarbarian:

    Let’s not all start sucking each others dicks just yet.

    (Looks around the room at the rest of my fellow blog commenters)

    Uh, how about we never do that?

    Just, you know, throwing that out there as an option.

    .

  76. 76.

    rob!

    that sound you hear is p.luk, crawled up under his desk in the fetal position, crying.

  77. 77.

    Desert Rat

    Frankly, there are two things I am grateful over in 2008, and neither one of them is the defeat of Hillary:

    1. The exposure, finally and for all to see, of Mark Penn as a buffoon and a charlatan who couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him the “c” and the “a”.

    2. The utter self-parody that Terry McAuliffe has become. Frankly, he damn near trashed the party as DNC chair with his routing all resources to about 15 states every 2 years, and its good to see him emerge as the Baghdad Bob of the Clinton campaign. Dude was full of shit then. He’s even more full of shit now.

  79. 79.

    libarbarian

    Libarbarian:

    Let’s not all start sucking each others dicks just yet.

    (Looks around the room at the rest of my fellow blog commenters)

    Uh, how about we never do that?

    Just, you know, throwing that out there as an option.

    Then why the fuck am I still hanging around here?

  80. 80.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Then why the fuck am I still hanging around here?

    Don’t run off too quickly. No one agreed with him.

  82. 82.

    greynoldsct00

    Meanwhile, over at Hillaryis44, they’ve started the kumbaya and the group hug:

    When will Obama concede?

    Eeeuw…why’d you make me go there…they’re insane

  83. 83.

    montysano

    Ya know, last night I was feeling good, feeling hopeful, and even feeling a bit generous towards HRC.

    Then came that surreal bit of performance art known as her “concession speech”. Today I see this new Republican ad.

    Fuck ’em. No more Clintons, no more Bushes. Please, please go away and stay gone.

  84. 84.

    Dismayed Liberal

    Come on! How can you miss the Harvey Keitel reference from Pulp Fiction?

  85. 85.

    libarbarian

    Wow.
    Hillaryis44 honestly has an article When Will Obama Concede?

    birdgal Says:

    Why would any conservative Republican vote for a candidate, seeped in Marxism, anti-semitism, white hatred, and hatred of America?

    CJ Says:

    what will americans do if that whitey tape comes out

    sh++ hits the fan oh i hope

    Paul F. Villarreal (AKA Universal) Says:

    As we’ve all talked about, these coupists need to understand that there will be real-world blowback for what they have done. MarDee learned that, and she needs to be just the first.

    You don’t just eff over the majority of your party and think that everybody’s going to forget that.

    texan4hillary Says:

    Obama has not won, nor will he win, unless two things happen first-

    1) Secures 2210 votes in Denver.
    2) Clinton leaves/quits the race.

    There are many more, but few as delusional as this

    Berkeley Vox Says:
    June 4th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Plus, if she runs as an independent, think of how she’ll be positioned against Obama and McCain. It’s perfect for her. She can say that she is running as an “Independent Democrat,” and that when she wins the White House, she will return to the Democratic party, for starters.

    Then you’ll have McCain sticking with his new mantra, “there is the right change, and the wrong change,” and he’ll blast Obama for all his sketchy connections and hate-filled church, etc., and Obama will blast McCain for being GW Bush, the sequel — i.e., more of the same.

    Clinton will say she’s neither. She’ll be perfectly situated, right in the middle. Voters won’t want Obama’s radicalism and naivete, but they won’t want McCain’s tired old stay-the-course policies, either. She will win.

    Wow. Just, wow.

  86. 86.

    Tony J

    McCain thinks this is a clever way to get access to the large crowds Obama draws. After last night, McCain and the Republicans know they won’t be able to compete with the visuals an Obama rally projects so they’re trying to get McCain a piece of the action by sponging off of Obama and have “joint” appearances.

    Now, that there is a good point. I’m sitting over here in the UK, where the MO of even the ‘lefty’ MSM is to repeat ad nauseum the US MSM’s conventional wisdom and save the actual ‘journalism’ for deployment elsewhere. So this week I’ve had to suffer editorials in the bloody Guardian, fersucksake, telling me that Hillary/Tuzla is EXACTLY THE SAME ONLY NOT AS BAD as Obama/Auschwitz, and thus Obama has a HUGE credibility problem, and Hillary has to talk her supporters down from the rooftop BUT NOT AS URGENTLY OR AS MUCH as Obama has to give her whatever she wants to bring her onside, because Obama has a HUGE problem with getting women and whites to vote for him.

    And all the time, tucked in a paragraph or two, there’s John McCain, portrayed as the maverick opponent of everything bad Bush ever did, whose straight-talking and moderate record make him attractive to Independents and crossover Democrats, and whose problems with lobbyists and preachers are only ever mentioned in comparison and in passing.

    And not a single word about how weak the Republicans are looking this year. They can’t fill venues, their candidate is still getting substantial protest-votes in the primaries the GOP has left, and every time he goes in front of a camera to attack Obama he comes across as a deluded old man offering nothing but more of the same to a country that desperately wants change.

    Which is more or less the same way they report on British politics. Nevermind. I guess they’re as dedicated as the US MSM to the idea that every political race has to be kept artificially competitive or no one will want to read about it.

    Lets not all start sucking each others dicks just yet.

    No, but it’s certainly way past time you can expect to have it out and point at it in an expectant way.

  88. 88.

    libarbarian

    Actually no, the most pathetic thing in their hope for the “Michelle Obama Tape” to come out.

    The “tape” is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity’s site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

    So the tape has supposedly been publicly available for years and yet somehow not a single copy has popped into visibility despite all this talk?

    This is fake-moon-landing type idiocy.

  89. 89.

    tBone

    Right now, the only way that Obama can fix things is to make it clear that there IS NO NOMINEE, that the nomination will not be determined until the convention, that the superdelegates can and should feel free to choose the person that they think makes the best candidate and President, and that he is preparing to run IN CASE he is the nominee.

    Now, I know that this is not in his character… but if he wants the wounds to heal, that is what he needs to say—AND ACT like he means it.

    At this point, p.luk could probably create a fair-sized beach with the amount of sand he’s carrying around in his vagina.

  90. 90.

    Catfish N. Cod

    In other news:

    Hilary Rosen: I am not a bargaining chip, I am a Democrat!

    -1 spokeswoman for failing to concede last night.

    C&C’s Stuck In Reverse Effect has begun. Let’s see how well Hillary can campaign for negative delegates! She’s -2 on the day already (one of whom is Walter Mondale).

    Jimmy Carter: Don’t pick Clinton for VP

    Carter, who formally endorsed the Illinois senator last night, cited opinion polls showing 50% of US voters with a negative view of Clinton. In terms that might discomfort the Obama camp, he said: “If you take that 50% who just don’t want to vote for Clinton and add it to whatever element there might be who don’t think Obama is white enough or old enough or experienced enough or because he’s got a middle name that sounds Arab, you could have the worst of both worlds.”

    Thank you, Mr. Carter, for some clear thinking.

  91. 91.

    Neal

    No, but it’s certainly way past time you can expect to have it out and point at it in an expectant way.

    Figures. Bunch of sexist Obamabots here just waving there dicks in the air…

    Seriously, guys, this thread is killing me. Keep it up!

    Pun intended, I guess.

  92. 92.

    Conservatively Liberal

    Hillary supporters are laying on the charm:

    (SC Rep James) Clyburn told FOX News Radio’s “Brian and the Judge” that the callers identified themselves as Hillary Clinton supporters. Clyburn, an African-American and the third ranking House Democrat, said a white intern in his office was so upset by the calls that she had to be consoled by other workers and left the office early.

    “We got more vitriolic, nasty phone calls, really racially tinged phone calls in my congressional office, so much so, until one of the interns, a young lady who is not a stranger to politics … and she is not a black person, she left the office, had to be consoled because of the kinds of phone calls from people who identified themselves as Hillary Clinton supporters,” he said.

    “I was absolutely shocked, could not believe that this happened. I could understand people saying, ‘Why are you doing this or why would you not support Hillary Clinton?’ but to call me the kinds of names I have not heard since the ’40s and ’50s,” he said.

    Clyburn said some of the callers threatened to “sabotage this election.” He added that he does not think Clinton understands her role in unifying the party.

    From a diary at Kos.

    Are we sure we want to talk these people down from the edge? I say let them jump.

  93. 93.

    Rick Taylor

    Hillary supporters are laying on the charm

    That same diary showed some of the saner supporters. Reading Rendell was especially heartening:

    There’s no bargaining. You don’t bargain with the Presidential nominee. Even if you’re Hillary Clinton and you have 18 million votes, you don’t bargain.

    John likes him as a VP pick; sounds good to me.

  94. 94.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Are we sure we want to talk these people down from the edge?

    Hell no. I’ve been saying for months it would be better to lose without them than win or lose with them. Obviously, it would be best to win without them, and I believe that’s possible, but the next best thing is to come as close as possible to winning without them. They aren’t going to stop having elections after this one and the Democratic tide that is going to sweep into Congress is more than enough to keep a doddering old fool in check.

    Even so, I don’t think our prospects are that hideous. We’ve got a realignment election coming up. Our party’s racist old fools are going to naturally realign with the Republicans. (How we’ve kept them this long is beyond me.) Conversely, sane Republicans (like JC) and independents are going to realign with Democrats. We’ll see who has more marbles on November 9th.

  95. 95.

    Catfish N. Cod

    Oh, and I checked the Internet Archive for records of that tape’s availability. If that tape exists, it wasn’t on sale in 2005 or 2007 from the Trinity United Church of Christ website. You could pick up plenty of Jeremiah Wright sermons, though, if that floats your boat.

    In fact, sermons are the ONLY video available from TUCC. Funny, that. Who could imagine that a CHURCH would not be offering POLITICAL VIDEO?

    By the way, according to the program, the speaker at the 2004 Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Women’s Forum was Jesse Jackson, not Michelle Obama.

    The sad thing is that this tape doesn’t have to actually exist to have a nonzero effect. Some small percentage of America will believe that tape exist no matter what evidence is brought forward, just like they believed that Saddam’s WMD were in Syria and Vince Foster was assassinated on the Clintons’ orders.

    This is what Al Gore was talking about in his book on American politics. We need to establish a principle in America that everyone turns the big guns on stupid rumors and publicly ridicules them until their believers wear paper bags on their heads.

  96. 96.

    Neal

    Are we sure we want to talk these people down from the edge? I say let them jump.

    Amen…but alas, it’s politics and we need them. I wish that weren’t the case.

  97. 97.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Oh, and I checked the Internet Archive for records of that tape’s availability. If that tape exists, it wasn’t on sale in 2005 or 2007 from the Trinity United Church of Christ website. You could pick up plenty of Jeremiah Wright sermons, though, if that floats your boat.

    Maybe it was a Wright sermon where Michelle Obama got so worked up she jumped up and yelled “Kill Whitey!” Ya know, like in white churches where they yell “Amen” and “Preach It” and “Praise Jesus! during a good sermon.

  98. 98.

    Jess

    I’m waiting for the Onion to do a headline like:

    Holy Fucking Hell! America Nominates Black Male For President!

    Did you see the Onion headline after the MUP’s first Wright/race speech? “Black Guy Asks Nation for Change.”

  99. 99.

    Jess

    The entire time I watched this I waited for him to rip off a mask and reveal that he was really Tom Cruise in disguise.

    Win!

  102. 102.

    The Other Steve

    Are we sure we want to talk these people down from the edge? I say let them jump.

    I’m not opposed to pushing.

  103. 103.

    oh really

    Rum? Cocaine? I’d say PCP. I doubt if a half a dozen rounds from an elephant gun would even slow him down.

  104. 104.

    OriGuy

    Clinton will say she’s neither. She’ll be perfectly situated, right in the middle. Voters won’t want Obama’s radicalism and naivete, but they won’t want McCain’s tired old stay-the-course policies, either. She will win.

    The Goldilocks approach to politics. That trick never works, Bullwinkle.

  105. 105.

    Googootz

    The strategy is now “fake it until you make it.” Keep the true believers, the tin-foil hat koolaid drinkers pumped. Constantly recite the same non-facts until they become conventional wisdom.

    Perpetuate the illusion Obama can’t win it without Clinton on the ticket.

    Once she’s on the ticket, then (1) they lose the general election, in which case Obama’s done and Clinton gets another shot in four years; or (2) Obama/Clinton wins, and President Obama gets steam-rollered by Hillary and Bill.

    Yup.

  106. 106.

    chuckieboyc

    Fuck hill, fuck bill, fuck mcauliffe, fuck carville (mr. matalin), fuck davis, fuck wolfson, fuck caputo, fuck begala, fuck dowd, it’s like a festering sore that has miraculouly disappeared. It was not nice knowing y’all, goodbye and bad luck.

  107. 107.

    chuckieboyc

    Fuck hill, fuck bill, fuck mcauliffe, fuck carville (mr. matalin), fuck davis, fuck wolfson, fuck caputo, fuck begala, fuck dowd, it’s like a festering sore that has miraculouly disappeared. It was not nice knowing y’all, goodbye and bad luck.

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