To remind you that no matter who Obama chooses as his running mate, it WILL BE A SLAP IN THE FACE.
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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.
They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.
No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.
Let’s not be the monsters we hate.
Fuck these fucking interesting times.
rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius
Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.
American History and Black History Cannot Be Separated
Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.
But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.
Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll
It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.
JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?
Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.
The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.
A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.
Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.
The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.
New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.
An almost top 10,000 blog!
“Squeaker” McCarthy
Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.
“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”
Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.
Happy indictment week to all who celebrate!
jibeaux
The occasional slap in the face can be very helpful for getting over oneself.
Delia
I have another slap in the face for Obama. He’s just picked up Toby Keith’s endorsement. Now I haven’t had my breakfast or my morning coffee yet, so I don’t know what the hell this means. But there it is.
Ripley
This post is a slap in the face to 99% of dKos diarists!
rob!
at this point, he could pick Hillary, and the dead-enders would STILL call it a slap in face, somehow.
cleek
but Keith just accused Obama of “acting white”…
jibeaux
It means we’ll put a boot in your ass, it’s the American waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy.
Yes, I’m a Catholic left-wing country music fan….bring on the offers from Barnum & Bailey…
cleek
Lieberman to speak at the GOP convention.
Delia
So you’re Stephen Colbert in disguise?
Incertus
Damn–cleek beat me to it. Guess I’ll just have to settle for Florida Republican Vern Buchanan being in a world of shit over fraud, FEC violations, and threatening his employees.
Brother Flaming Taser of Warm Reason
I’m not surprised. Seriously, read this article. At this point I just can’t get any more pissed off.
wasabi gasp
Leaked video of Obama deciding on a running mate.
Brother Flaming Taser of Warm Reason
I know, which makes this even odder yet.
jibeaux
D’oh!
w/r/t Lieberman, I heard that Kerry allegedly advised Obama to, above all, go with a running mate who you trust implicitly.
The wisdom of this advice becomes clearer all the time…
cleek
…reading…reading….reading…
something to keep in mind, i suppose.
flyerhawk
Investigative journalist Erick Erickson is investigating the University of Chicago’s coverup of Obama’s secret love of terrorists….
Fight the power, Erick!
Delia
Well, no one could have anticipated these developments. Hey, I’ll give you a dollar if you can get any of the US MSM to publish these astounding facts.
August J. Pollak
Would any other bloggers be interested in having a “National Blog Like Armando Day?”
It’s actually really simple, you basically just write every single post the way you normally do, only conclude it with how it shows what an stubborn uppity idiot Barack Obama is for failing to realize that he would solve all his problems with being stubborn and uppity by making Hillary Clinton his running mate.
I swear to Christ, go to TalkLeft, EVERY FUCKING ONE OF HIS POSTS IN THE LAST THREE DAYS have ended this way.
srv
Toby has said he never supported the Iraq war. But it sure sold a lot of CDs.
craig
don’t forget that the campaign that whupped Clinton is too dumb to realize the only thing they have to do to win is choose Clinton.
PaulW
This just in: I’m not getting the veep selection. THIS IS A SLAP IN MY FACE!
No, really, it was. Owwwww dammit.
jake
“HE ONLY PICKED HILLARY BECAUSE HE WAS FORCED TO BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WOULD HAVE HIM AND HE TOOK TOO LONG TO ASK AND HOW DARE HE INSIST SHE BE CALLED “VICE PRESIDENT” SHE SHOULD BE CO-PRESIDENT OR JUST PRESIDENT AND HE COULD BE “THAT OTHER GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE” AND HER NAME BETTER GO ON THE BUMPER STICKERS FIRST!”
Shit, now I want to slap myself in the face.
Dennis - SGMM
I don’t particularly care whom Obama chooses for his VP. I’m sure that he’ll have sound reasons for his choice.
I just slapped myself in the face so as not to feel left out, though.
Dennis - SGMM
Dems choosing a Veep.
cyntax
Or, I could just drive splinters under my fingernails.
gopher2b
Could these announcements be any more drawn out. I realize everyone who pays attention gets excited but its a lot of drama when the reaction of 85% of the country will be “who is that?”
JR
Oh, Jesus. A Democratic congresswoman from Ohio suffered an aneurysm last night. (Crazy) People are already speculating that Obama is behind it because she is a superdelegate. And Obama controls the universe, apparently.
Dennis - SGMM
The remaining 15% of the country will find reasons to assail the candidate’s choices – no matter who they are.
Davis X. Machina
Jake, I teach high school and your post, until the vice-president part at least, is a verbatim transcript of a hundred prom-time conversations. Which tells you something about the people who think and talk that way….
Martin
If Obama chose Hillary for VP, the PUMAs would claim that it demonstrated that Hillary would have beat him in the roll call vote and that the only way he could shut that down was to blackmail her and force her to be VP.
There’d be something about how he’s a sexist pig and egomaniac in there somehow, but getting into PUMA mode makes me hate myself, so I’ll leave that as an exercise to
the readernoIQ.Louise
Would someone please go wake up Harry Reid and tell him to kick Joe’s ass to the curb? Now?
(I mean, I’d much prefer something really humiliating for Joe, like maybe having his mike go silent 3 minutes into his convention speech, or figuring out how to drug him so that he unknowingly appears in a dress — but at the least I’d like Harry to make him lose any privileges related to his seniority. Sheesh.)
liberal
Louise wrote,
Well, the Senate balance and all that.
But if the Dems really do pick up multiple Senate seats and then don’t proceed to crush Loserman, the Party will have a rebellion on its hands.
Ted
The most disgusting part about it is that Obama CAMPAIGNED FOR HIM at Lieberman’s request during his goddamn senate re-election race. The guy just stabs his friends with glee.
Dennis - SGMM
Why if the balance in the Senate had changed, FISA may have passed, American forces in Iraq wouldn’t have a timeline for withdrawal, Mukasey might have been confirmed as AG and Bushco might still be thumbing their noses at Congress.
Tax Analyst
Cool…and now Obama can put out rumors that he’ll make Keith the new Secretary of Defense (The “We’ll put a boot in their ass” line should firm up Obama’s “National Defense/Diplomacy” creds, since that appears to be in line with how most Americans believe it should be handled).
And then Obama can announce his choice for VP…Natalie Maines (of the Dixie Chicks)…a woman…strong…outspoken…from the South…definitely not an “effete intellectual”…balances out the Toby Keith thing…
Hell, that’s a ticket I’d vote for, especially over that cootie-faced liar, John McCain and whatever moron or psychopath he picks as a running-mate.
TenguPhule
Rice is a four letter word, so is c***, which she is.
Yeah, I’m sure if Russia did the same deal with Cuba, she’d say the same thing.
Irony meter is broken captain.
Right, we still had a working military back then, we were less bankrupt then we are now and the world didn’t hate us.
But don’t forget Poland!
Zifnab
I just hope they kick Reid to the curb and pick Feinstein or Dodd or… hell even Hillary. We could use more ass-kicking and less bending over and taking it.
Ripley
If Obama were smart (and cheeky) he would have had Lieberman go through the vetting process, just to fuck with him and McCain.
Zifnab
Well, that’s all diplomatic bullshit to be sure, but Poland wouldn’t have rolled out the red carpet for our interceptors if Russia hadn’t been so hasty to drive tanks into Gori.
I’m sorry, but this is the right move for America to make. Russia made an aggressive action that scared the shit out of its neighbors. This is the logical consequence.
Ripley
I should have added: Then he could come out and say something like, “Joe Lieberman has changed dramatically, and dagerously, since Sen. Gore asked him to be his running mate. Just like Sen. McCain, it seems Sen. Lieberman doesn’t know what or for whom he stands for – though, it appears it’s not the American People.”
Might as well slap the guy in the face for being a prick, right?
Brachiator
This is one of the reasons why I would love it if Obama chooses Kathleen Sebelius. It would make the PUMA crowd’s hair stand on end, and make their “Hillary is the onliest woman who could ever be the prez or VP” look like what it really is, the rantings of a deranged cult.
But I’m wondering when Obama will send the promised email announcing his VP pick. In some ways, I find this more interesting than who the actual choice will be.
Tom Hilton
Bullshit. It could be a stubbed toe instead, or a pulled muscle. It could also be anything from a stumble to a pratfall.
Maybe he meant that as a compliment.
Duros Hussein 62
Leaked video of Obama deciding on a running mate.
I thought that was breakfast at the McCain Mansion.
GSD
Expect the arrest or assassination of a high value Al Qaeda target or the exposure of a large scale terrorist plot to be unveiled during the Democratic Convention.
Bank on some breathless Barbara Starr reports from the Pentagon.
-GSD
Richardson
If he picks Jesus it will be a slap in the face to both the Jews and the Romans. Not to mention Jesus’ domestic policies would lose him at least 80% of American evangelical voters.
liberal
Dennis – SGMM wrote,
If the Senate balance had changed and the Dems were in the minority, they’d control of the committees.
Which is sufficient reason for not dissing Loserman now. (Though I’m not up to speed on the exact balance, but it’s still tight whatever it is.)
While you have a point, it’s really a different one: namely, that the Dems have done squat with notional control of the Senate (which is unfortunately true).
Tax Analyst
Oh, yeah…Rice talking about “credibility” is sort of a sad hoot. She’s got to be the least credible/least effective Secretary of State in our history. She flies around to critical areas and blows off a lot of meaningless euphemisms about “Freedom” and then flies away leaving the host folks in exactly the same position they were in before her breathless cameo appearance…”fucked”.
I don’t believe there’s a single place where this Administration and this Secretary of State has been involved that isn’t in worse shape, from a U.S. standpoint, than it was beforehand.
liberal
Dennis – SGMM wrote,
If the Senate balance had changed and the Dems were in the minority, they’d lose ontrol of the committees.
Which is sufficient reason for not dissing Loserman now. (Though I’m not up to speed on the exact balance, but it’s still tight whatever it is.)
While you have a point, it’s really a different one: namely, that the Dems have done squat with notional control of the Senate (which is unfortunately true).
jake
Yes Dr. Rice. They took a page from the U.S. playbook and decided they didn’t give a fuck. Comrade, it is time to throw a little country against the wall just to show we can!
CJ
If some of our ‘leaders’ had the brainpower to think more than one move ahead, we wouldn’t be looking at this now though, would we? The Georgia mess reminds me of the first Gulf War with the CIA telling the Kuwaitis that we’ll stand behind them and the State Department simultaneously telling Saddam that his beef with Kuwait was none of our business.
I’d love to play checkers with George Bush. For money.
CJ
liberal
Zifnab wrote,
No, Russia made an entirely predictable, understandable move given the laws of geopolitical spheres of influence.
The US is extending a military alliance to the borders of another Great Power. Now that’s provocative.
The fact that Russia’s neighbors are jittery is a fact (albeit regrettable) of great power politics. Or would you have had the USSR attack the US when we were slaughtering people in Central America a couple decades ago?
liberal
CJ wrote,
Unfortunately, the distance between the two parties on this one is much smaller than on the Iraq invasion.
4tehlulz
And Russia will make the predicable move of re-MIRVing their ICBMs and pulling out of almost every arms control treaty, since they’re feeling encircled again.
GSD
Also, Israel set the table for Russia. The Poles can build their base and then Russia can launch a pre-emptive strike and destroy the base. The Russias then can play mum and not even say a word.
Pre-emptive action, it’s what powerful nations do. Right Condi?
-GSD
GSD
Also, Israel set the table for Russia. The Poles can build their base and then Russia can launch a pre-emptive strike and destroy the base. The Russias then can play mum and not even say a word.
Pre-emptive action, it’s what powerful nations do. Right Condi?
-GSD
Delia
Here’s an interesting take on the Georgian affair.
And here’s one on how the US forgot Great Power politics.
And here’s one more, about St. John’s general love of war, and his general meddling in the Georgian Affair and desire to make the world explode.
Ken
Bloggers whine. That is all they are good for. See anyone doing anything to elect Obama. Me neither.
So if Obama loses it will be for the same reason Gore lost, yeah, yeah, he won. Stuff it.
He will lose because the whiney lefty’s have no idea how to work on an election.
They will spend the next months argueing about who is more progressive and why no one listens to me.
What a pathetic group. They all tried to shove Edwards in our face. Proves how bright they are.
Laura W
You know, their relationship has been on my muddled mind since yesterday when I saw two clips of them together, perhaps from yesterday. She’s got her right arm in the sling, and they are disembarking a plane. She’s grabbing onto the rail with her left hand and to my eyes (and I watched this very carefully twice), he is doing nothing at all to assist or ensure her safety. The next scene is in a diner and he is already seated at the table while she tries to pull her chair up behind her as she seats herself, with one hand. Is she dead to him or what? How classless can the man be? (that can be rhetorical.)
That led me to recalling W’s beaten-to-death comment about “marrying up”. Much like McCain’s “drunken sailor spending” and “bear DNA” scream-when-I-hear-them, rote quips. Of course for him to use the marrying up line would imply that he married up from his first wife, so surely that’s the catch there.
Trollop and c**t episodes aside, every time I look at Cindy I just know that to some degree she is on the receiving end of a good amount of emotional and verbal abuse from her hot-tempered, mean-mouthed old Maverick. I’m going back to dwelling on the Obama’s relationship now. It doesn’t piss me off. And call me old fashioned or gullible, but I used to get a little mushy inside when Barack would hold Hill’s chair at the debates. At least he was conscious enough to realize that the little gesture of graciousness was called for, for christ sake.
(Speaking of christ, Maher was great on King last night. King was loopy as usual. Best part was near the end when the breaking news came of the Dave Matthews band guy dying. King says: “And he was only 66!” while the screen showed 46, and “he died from complications of a TV accident”.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
oh really
Feinstein? You’re kidding, right?
DBrown
Really? Causing a nuclear power that has thousands of city-killer nucs onto a hair trigger to block missles from a country that doesn’t have nukes nor will have them even in tens years is good for the US? Spending a few billion more American taxpayer dollars to protect an area that has a GDP bigger than us is good?
Were is any of this stupidity good for us? What to ‘hurt Russia over Georgia
J. Michael Neal
No, this isn’t the right move. I’m not opposed to doing things that piss off the Russians per se. I’m opposed to doing things that piss off the Russians pointlessly. Installing a missile defense system that doesn’t work is pointless. Personally, I’d also draw the line at NATO admittance to the countries already in. Ukraine, maybe at some time in the indefinite future, but they have to settle their border dispute with the Russians first.
Delia
Good catch, there, Laura. Those are the psychological cues all right, for both of them.
Now wait for it:
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“But he was a POW and a war hero. Are you questioning this man’s integrity?!!!!!”
Punchy
I read this as “Blog like Armadillo Day”, and for, like 30 seconds, could NOT figger out how an armadillo would blog. About exoskeletons? The tastiness of insects? Stumped, I tell ya.
I’m a retard.
Laura W
Delia, I WORE MCCAIN’S POW BRACELET WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL. I was directly responsible for his release. Thank me in Ketel One Citroen.
I accept your apology.
Noah
What John McCain will do as soon as he is elected!
Bootlegger
Did anyone follow the link to the “he” VP story? Some CBS reporter made a big deal out of Obama using the “he” pronoun when describing his VP. But when he said “he”, Obama was clearly referring to Cheney, as in “he won’t run my foreign policy.” So some idiot apparently thinks this means he has a man in mind for VP. Oy.
Marshall
I predict that the Obama VP choice will be a surprise. They have had excellent discipline throughout, and it would make sense to have some false flag candidates to hide their true choice.
So, I am going to go out on a limb and predict Wes Clark.
Delia
And then there’s the humiliating way the Saint treated Cindy by whoring her at the Miss Buffalo Chips Contest. No way an old fly boy didn’t know what was going on.
I wonder how Good Pastor Warren deals with the cognitive dissonance.
cyntax
Better than Armando.
Laura W
Way too bad Schuster got big NBC spanking for accusing another prez candidate of pimping out a female relative on the trail because if there were ever an appropriate place to turn that phrase…
smiley
Michael Moore is urging Caroline Kennedy to choose herself, a la Cheney.
Conservatively Liberal
Corrected.
Naah. Another bowl or two of the good skunky stuff and you will be right back to norml. Remember, it’s ‘tokin’, not ‘token’. ;)
Regarding blogging like Bloviating Tiresome Douche, it requires a lobotomy so I will pass.
Grumpy Code Monkey
It’s not like 1962 is ancient history, after all. Except now fucking Putin is Kennedy and Commander Decider Guy is Kruschev.
We are so fucked.
I thought they all blew up after McCain’s “in the 21st century, countries don’t invade other countries” statement.
Bogon fluxes have officially reached toxic levels. These jackasses are doing their goddamnedest to get us all killed. Defend Europe and the US from long-range missiles launched from fucking IRAN?! Who the fuck do they think they’re kidding? Besides an unfortunately large swath of the American voting public, I mean…
LanceThruster
Please don’t pick a total douche. Anyone even modestly acceptable will be fine.
For my money:
No to Biden or Clinton
Yes to Dodd, Richardson, Clark, or Kucinich (or even those others on the short list – Bayh or Kane or Sebilius)
w vincentz
Not to interrupt the profound topics presented in this face slappin’ open thread, but it has been anounced who will deliver the keynote speech at the GOP convention…some guy named Rudy Gu9-11iani. Wonder if he’ll do it in drag?
Delia
Wow. Do you think he’ll mention 9/11?
Maybe we can have a 9/11 — POW-cross-in-the-dirt face off. I wonder who will win. They’re both pretty crotchety.
OriGuy
This is how you treat someone who doesn’t do what the party needs done. Harry Reid, take note.
CA Assemblywoman Nicole Parra (D-Hanford) refused to vote for the budget unless it included a water bond for the November election.
OriGuy
Standing in the middle of a Texas highway, waiting to get run over.
Corner Stone
I had something pithy and smart for this but this fucking hamster driven POS website ate it. Fucker.
Basically – rebel by who? And why the fuck would they care? The D leadership has absolutely proven that they don’t give a shit about any constituency. Rebel all you want to Mr. Fancy Pants. And then you can go fuck off like the rest of us because THEY DON’T GIVE A SHIT.
binzinerator
You think it’s pointless and so does anyone with an ounce of sense — because you start with the premise that it’s about a missile system and what stands to be gained by the US.
It isn’t about the missle system, so it doesn’t matter whether it works or not. And it isn’t about what’s good for the US, either.
It’s about the political advantage the Bushies can give to McCain, and what benefit can be made of it by the GOP.
Risking war with Russia over something that doesn’t work when we have no military capacity to back up our position is exactly what a Bushie would consider doing if they thought their party could benefit from it, even if doing so would be pointless or even reckless for the country.
It’s pointless and unnecessary risk for our country, but not for the GOP.
Conservatively Liberal
Yup, not for the War Party! They live to see others die in wars that they start, and if they can leverage that into continued control of our country then all the better in their view. I hope the McCain/draft reinstatement sticks with some people. That woman was right, if they keep thrashing our military to death they will not have anyone to go after Osama Bin Forgotten unless they reinstate the draft.
If parents (especially ones on the right) think that they or their children are going to have to fight this fight and possibly die, you can bet support for McCain would dry up in a flash. The only reason Bu$h had initial support for this war is because most people did not have to worry because their child was not serving in the military. You can bet that the support for the war in Iraq would have been far less if it was to be true ‘shared sacrifice’ on the part of ALL Americans.
The GOP has been gaming the system for years now, and people are getting tired of it. Are they tired enough? We will find out this fall. If they vote McCain in, then we deserve the disaster that will surely follow.