Christian evangelicals in the south loves ’em some waterboarding and thumbscrews!!. I live in the South. Thankfully, in Atlanta, which is pretty much completely different than the rest of the bunch – at least in Atlanta proper.
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cleek
Jesus was tortured. and if it’s good enough for Jesus, it outta be good enough for Mohammad Q Jihadi!
Michael D.
Jesus didn’t exist. So, by extension, he couldn’t have been tortured.
Ned Beatty
Queue up the “Dueling Banjos”
Xanthippas
I’m particularly impressed by the 28% who believe their beliefs on the permissibility of torture are derived from the Bible or their Christian teachings. Jesus might want to correct some of his followers when he meets them face to face (not that it’ll do us any good of course.)
LiberalTarian
Those people are no followers of Christ. They are christianists, and the two should not be confused.
They revel in the suffering of others and follow false prophets. If I were them, I wouldn’t be in such a hurry for the rapture.
eglenn
Smyrna (northern Atlanta suburb), not so much. 5 McCain signs on my street alone. [sigh]
r€nato
I look forward to more lectures from christianists about how atheists are, by definition, immoral and how atheism led to communism and Nazism.
SGEW
Yeah, I’ve been seeing this trend for quite a while now (anyone remember that whole snuff film “The Passion of Mel Gibson’s Nipples,” or whatever it was called?). Cue 24. Heat up with the recent torture-porn films. Mix with apocalyptic old time religion and new-age “invisible war” nonsense. Voila! Torture supporters.
(I have a private wager with a friend as to when we’ll see self-flagellation hit small town America – I’ve already won the witch-hunting bet recently).
These people are anti-American, and a danger to the Republic.
There. I’ve said it.
David in NYC
The poll … found that 57% of [white Christian evangelicals] said torture can be often or sometimes justified …
[snip]
The findings of this poll … compared to a Pew Research Center poll from February that found that 48% of the general public think torture can be justified.
So, apparently, being a white Xtian evangelical TEACHES you to like torture.
Who would Jesus torture, indeed?
r€nato
of course they are. They want a theocracy.
pharniel
jesus would have totally tortured those sinners, and they would have had it comming.
SGEW
South Park is more relevant now then ever before:
Mel Gibson Loves Torture
Ah. That’s th’ stuff.
Brachiator
Huh? Jesus probably existed. Whether he was divine — as opposed to merely fabulous — is another question altogether.
I am one of those people who admired The Passion of the Christ (even though I am furiously agnostic). But I could never understand how committed Christians could talk about how moved they were by the images of Jesus being tortured and yet go on to defend the shameful way that the Bush Administration has condoned torture.
But of course, you had the Republicans at their convention refusing even to use the word “torture” in describing McCain’s war prisoner ordeal but at the same time putting him on a pedestal for enduring years of brutality.
By the way, I will even give Christian mythology credit here. Unlike many of the frauds who came later and infect other religions, who want their followers to keep them plied with goodies, one message of early Christianity has Jesus saying to his followers: You will be tortured and persecuted for believing in me. But not only am I going to suffer for you, I will give myself to suffer alongside you.
How ironic, then, that people who call themselves Christian have become the enablers of sadists and torturers.
And Bush is a modern Pontius Pilate, seeking to wash his hands of responsibility by claiming that he is doing what he is doing in the name of national security.
SGEW
Sadly, this is an old, old story with Christianity. The terrible historical details are well known, and too depressing to list here.
Same old, same old.
(And the sincere answer they would give to the “who would Jesus torture” question: Jesus would torture Jews, Muslims, Pagans and Unbelievers. Duh.)
Brachiator
Fixed. This is sadly a feature, not a bug, in most religions.
r€nato
torture is bad when they do it because they are infidels.
torture is ok when we do it because jeebus is on our side.
what a shame we still have to listen to this shit in the 21st century.
Mylegacy
Would Jesus torture? Don’t see why not, he’s a follower of god-zilla.
Think about this, Jews, Muslims and Christians, the people of the “Book” believe that a god, created the universe, made us in his image, and then, in just one example of his personally explicit crimes, he purposely drowned everyone, except for the few that fit in a 40-cubit boat. The god they believe in, from their own “Book,” is a self-confessed homicidal mass murderer!
What is so alarming, is not that these deluded people believe this nonsense, but that they worship the homicidal mass murderer that did all this, and countless more murders; they worship him and look forward to spending eternity with this nutcase.
And they wonder why “normal” people think Christians, Jews and Muslims are “nutcases.”
Delia
Fixed again.
Xenos
The term you are looking for is “Domestic Enemy of the Constitution.”
Why did Washington hate America?
SGEW
Speaking of George W. (tha Original, y’all):
– Gen. George Washington, January 8, 1777.
Notorious P.A.T.
I’m shocked–shocked, I say!–that followers of a god that killed the children of Egypt to punish its king, that destroyed the entire city of Sodom to punish some of its residents, and sent his only son to Earth for the express purpos of dying a horrible death, should find torture acceptable.
Notorious P.A.T.
Why did Washington hate America?
You mean George “America is not a christian nation” Washington?
This is sadly a feature, not a bug, in most people, religious or not
Oh please. You see anyone running around Sweden advocating torture?
Blue Buddha
My parents moved to Atlanta in the early 90’s, and as my mother puts it: Atlanta is a nice cultural and cosmopolitan city… unfortunately, it’s surrounded by Georgia.
And yeah, inside the Perimeter is a much different world than outside the Perimeter.
Xenos
Ever sat through a Swedenborgian sermon? There is no need to torture other people.
Bootlegger
Let us not forget more recent examples where their god took out New Orleans because of teh gays and let the terrorists succeed because of our general sinfulness. If this is their god I think we need a weapon to take the damned thing out. It keeps slaughtering people, these people keep worshipping it, and its about time we put a stop to the damned thing! Any suggestions on how we destroy the god of the Christ Death Cult? Not easy if it’s omnipotent, but if Picard can handle the Q then certainly Americans can stand up to the greatest existential threat in our history!
Brachiator
BBC News, May 21, 2005
There are few things more despicable than a people who preach human rights, and then enter into backroom deals to deliver people to their torturers.
And of course, back in the day, the Swedes — as Norsemen — engaged in rape, looting, torture and pillage just for grins and giggles. It is amazing, though, how they worked most of this out of their system.
Sweden went from this:
To this:
Maybe there is yet hope for us all.
Shaggy
Michael, I live about a little east of you.
The guy who lives across the street doesn’t even put out a recycling bin. Isn’t shrugging your shoulders at torture the next logical step?
Shaggy
Michael, I live a little east of you.
The guy who lives across the street doesn’t even put out a recycling bin. Isn’t shrugging your shoulders at torture the next logical step?
gocart mozart
“He was handed over to US authorities who chained and hooded him and flew him to jail in Egypt.”
Brachiator, are you saying that trusted the Bush administration is now officially a human rights violation?