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If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

Why did Dr. Oz lose? well, according to the exit polls, it’s because Fetterman won.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

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Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

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Sign at an anti-Palin rally in Alaska

Our nation’s foremost “expert” on energy has no idea what the hell she is talking about, and after you listen to her, you will have no idea what the hell she is talking about, either. Video here, and I half expected her to finish with “is our children learning.”

BTW, I think I speak for everyone when I say I like the sarcastic Hilzoy.

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  3. 3.

    AkaDad

    Of course she’s an expert. Raising five kids uses up a lot of energy. Your PDS is clouding your judgment.

  4. 4.

    The Reformer

    Wow, what does the right see in her? And what the hell were Alaskans thinking in voting for this woman as governor. She is so not ready to be a leader of our government. I pray to God Obama wins and all those whinny right wingers will go home. This election is just getting to be ridiculous.

  5. 5.

    Delia

    I think ‘Dick in a Skirt’ is more appropriate, since she is running for VP.

    Then the next question is, does she have a man-size safe in her office? And who or what is in it?

  6. 6.

    Joshua Norton

    Also a few notes for McSame.

    1. Spain in not in Latin America.
    2. Spain is a member of NATO.
    3. SPAIN IS NOT IN LATIN AMERICA.
    4. See #2.

  7. 7.

    cleek

    any sane person will like any Hilzoy.

    i love how Blitzer absolutely refuses to call a lie a lie. “some” say you gotta stay “balanced”!

    what fucking waste of protein.

  11. 11.

    PeterJ

    About ‘Dick in a skirt’, check out this article about a Tampa Bay focus group.

    Independent voter Bill Chever, 56, another Air Force veteran from St. Petersburg, said he has voted Republican four times and Democrat three times in the last seven presidential races. He likes and trusts Obama but not Obama’s party. Democrats have done nothing of consequence while controlling Congress, Chever said, but he’s particularly bothered that the Palins are not cooperating in the “Troopergate” investigation into whether she fired the state police chief for not firing her former brother-in-law from the Alaska state police.

    “Here we go with Dick Cheney and his group that’s not going to talk to anybody,” Chever said. “She is Dick Cheney with a dress on.”

    I really like Sarah Palin. She brings so much joy.

  12. 12.

    Ted

    You just know that Palin quote will trigger TBogg to post that pageant contestant video again. The one about Americans not able to afford maps.

  13. 13.

    jenniebee

    And what the hell were Alaskans thinking in voting for this woman as governor

    From what I’ve read about it, Alaska is flatly unable to consider a Democratic candidate, and the Republican incumbent had become wildly unpopular. As abusive of power as Ms. Palin is, from what I’ve read she’s not particularly corrupt by Alaska standards. People in the party were relieved that someone was standing up as an alternative to the incumbent and voters in general were relieved to have a plausible excuse to vote against a Democrat, and that’s how she got to be governor.

    I propose Alaska’s new state motto should be: “If you thought our mosquitos were pernicious blood-suckers, you should see our politicians!”

  17. 17.

    Greg D

    What she is really trying to say, and you are confusing the issue, especially given the proximity to Russia and the early morning hockey practice drives, where she can obviously see the real concerns of the voters in and around the whole of the great American electorate, is that when you look at the big picture, and it is a big picture, Alaska is also at the top of America and remember that those Canadians are right there on the border…just waiting. So yes, She is an expert on energy…god you guys are so stooopid!!!

  18. 18.

    Delia

    Slightly OT, but did you know that according to NoIQ, the Obama campaign is paying people $7 an hour to troll on their precious site? I won’t directly link, but:

    How The Trolls Win – Required Reading

    Or. Why they earn their $7/hour*.

    Last night was a perfect example of the reasoning behind the Obama campaign hiring paid trolls. It also demonstrates what happened on other blogs this year to drive away, or quiet the voices of reason. I hope that every loyal No Quarter member will follow what I say, suck it up and make a conscious effort to keep No Quarter an Oasis in the desert of the Internet.

    So my questions are: how do I sign up for this work? I could use a little extra cash, and it doesn’t seem that hard, but I do want to get paid. And also, how much do you think the trolls around here are getting paid? $3? $3.50? That much?

  19. 19.

    gbear

    Wow, what does the right see in her?

    Someone who will force a woman carry and deliver the baby of a man who raped her. They think that’s a good thing.

  20. 20.

    r€nato

    Well we can kiss goodbye to national health care, the final phase of Grover Norquist’s scheme to prevent creeping socialism by Republican looting of the US Treasury was enacted today.

  21. 21.

    Ted

    Someone who will force a woman carry and deliver the baby of a man who raped her. They think that’s a good thing.

    What’s interesting is that the pay for your own rape kit thing is resonating. Women I know who I normally consider to be politically completely unplugged are talking about it, in shocked outrage. If that’s one of the first or few things they learn about Palin’s mayorship, it’s not going to help McCain’s ticket one bit.

  22. 22.

    PeterJ

    So my questions are: how do I sign up for this work? I could use a little extra cash, and it doesn’t seem that hard, but I do want to get paid. And also, how much do you think the trolls around here are getting paid? $3? $3.50? That much?

    I want to know too. I’ve been thinking of switching to McCain so that I could take advantage of their Troll outreach program(tm), but if Obama does it too, then I don’t have to switch. Great news :)

  23. 23.

    jrg

    Our nation’s foremost “expert” on energy has no idea what the hell she is talking about,

    The thought of this moron going toe-to-toe with Biden makes me smile. Palin has no idea what’s going on, she’s just throwing out buzzwords.

    Is she suggesting that the solution to our energy problems is to stop importing and exporting oil? That’s what it sounds like at the end… At the beginning, she’s trying to wax scientific, but she has no idea what any of the words mean.

    Even if Palin was not a moron, she would be completely hamstrung as a message machine. She’s a woman, but she can’t talk about women’s issues. She’s a Christian, but her views are off the table for fear of losing the middle.

    Beyond her illusory ability to speak to those two demographics, she’s stuck. Even someone much smarter than her would be hamstrung. Since what she “knows” is off-limits (womanhood, motherhood, Christianist “values”), she’s going to do nothing but hurt McCain’s campaign.

    Bottom line, Palin is clueless, and will remain boxed in. If McCain was not losing it (cognitively), he would have seen this coming a mile away. McCain is now alone in this race.

  24. 24.

    bostondreams

    FunHouse, AJ Strata is a moron, without a doubt. I read some of the posts over their. I especially liked the one that suggested that part of the reason you had this economic crisis is because of Affirmative Action..Check out the post on ‘Obama Campaign’s hands all over crisis.’

  25. 25.

    Kali's Little Sister

    You just know that Palin quote will trigger TBogg to post that pageant contestant video again. The one about Americans not able to afford maps

    I heard Miss Teen South Carolina saw this and is insulted at the comparison with Palin.

  26. 26.

    PeterJ

    Check out the post on ‘Obama Campaign’s hands all over crisis.’

    Don’t forget the post where he breaks Godwin’s law in the title.

  28. 28.

    Lie baby, lie!

    Wow, what does the right see in her?

    Someone who will force a woman carry and deliver the baby of a man who raped her. They think that’s a good thing.

    Yeh, even if her daddy and brother took turns raping her.

  30. 30.

    bostondreams

    Don’t forget the post where he breaks Godwin’s law in the title.

    Ah yes, Obama worse that good ol’ Joe “the world without Hitler is insane so I will kill my whole family’ Goebbels. THAT was a good post! I almost couldn’t tell it was satire. Wait, it WAS satire, wasn’t it?

  31. 31.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    I agree she is “Dick in a skirt”. Besides, everyone knows 9iu11ani is Bush in a skirt.

  32. 32.

    gbear

    You just know that Palin quote will trigger TBogg to post that pageant contestant video again. The one about Americans not able to afford maps

    I like the post that TBoggs has up today encouraging women to donate to Planned Parenthood in Sarah Palin’s name, and then giving the address of the McCain campaign headquarters. Apparently when you donate to Planned Parenthood in someone’s honor, P.P. will send a card to that person informing them that you donated in their name.
    They’re hoping to flood Palin with thank you cards, which I think is just an amazingly great form of protest.

  33. 33.

    Lie baby, lie!

    A scene at the police station in Wasilla when Sarah was mayor:

    Victim: “Officer, my daddy and brother raped me.”

    Police Officer: “Now little girl, we’re going to take you to the hospital and have the doctors examine you. But first I have to ask you, do you have $1200 to pay for the Forensic Rape Kit the doctors will use to collect evidence when they examine you?”

  34. 34.

    John McCan't

    [quote]
    Delia Says:

    Slightly OT, but did you know that according to NoIQ, the Obama campaign is paying people $7 an hour to troll on their precious site? I won’t directly link, but:

    How The Trolls Win – Required Reading

    Or. Why they earn their $7/hour*.

    Last night was a perfect example of the reasoning behind the Obama campaign hiring paid trolls. It also demonstrates what happened on other blogs this year to drive away, or quiet the voices of reason. I hope that every loyal No Quarter member will follow what I say, suck it up and make a conscious effort to keep No Quarter an Oasis in the desert of the Internet.

    So my questions are: how do I sign up for this work? I could use a little extra cash, and it doesn’t seem that hard, but I do want to get paid. And also, how much do you think the trolls around here are getting paid? $3? $3.50? That much?
    [/quote]

    If Americans won’t pick lettuce for $50 an hour what makes you think they’d troll for $7 an hour?

  37. 37.

    PeterJ

    Ah yes, Obama worse that good ol’ Joe “the world without Hitler is insane so I will kill my whole family’ Goebbels. THAT was a good post! I almost couldn’t tell it was satire. Wait, it WAS satire, wasn’t it?

    I read the title, that was enough, wasn’t going to give him any more hits…

    ———

    OT, but some more info about the GOP delegate that met karma.

    He met her in the bar of the swank hotel and invited her to his room. Once there, the woman fixed the drinks and told him to get undressed. And that, the delegate to the Republican National Convention told police, was the last thing he remembered. When (Gabriel Nathan Schwartz) awoke, the woman was gone, as was more than $120,000 in money, jewelry and other belongings.

    The thief’s take stunned cops. “It’s very, very, very rare,” Minneapolis Police Sgt. William Palmer said. “I can think of a couple of burglaries where we had that much stolen, but it’s the first time I’ve heard of this kind of deal.”

    “It’s embarrassing to admit that I was a target of a crime. I was drugged and had about $50,000 of personal items stolen, not the inflated number that the media is reporting from an inaccurate police report,” he said.

    I’m wondering, did he lie in the police report about how much was stolen and when the story broke he decided to backtrack? Perhaps he decided that he should be given $70,000 for his humiliation? I mean the guy obviously lacks morals so it wouldn’t suprise me.

  38. 38.

    Garrigus Carraig

    I know it’s a cliché to say so, but I really do feel dumber after reading that transcript. It sounds like she is saying Alaska gets first dibs on U.S. oil.

  39. 39.

    gbear

    You just know that Palin quote will trigger TBogg to post that pageant contestant video again. The one about Americans not able to afford maps

    I like the post that TBoggs has up today encouraging women to d0nate to Planned Parenthood in Sarah Palin’s name, and then giving the address of the McCain campaign headquarters. Apparently when you d0nate to Planned Parenthood in someone’s honor, P.P. will send a card to that person informing them that you d0nated in their name.
    They’re hoping to flood Palin with thank you cards, which I think is just an amazingly great form of protest.

  40. 40.

    Joshua Norton

    Besides, everyone knows 9iu11ani is Bush in a skirt.

    I’ll bet dollars to donuts that the real “Bush in a Skirt” is Bush.

    I just know he has a little Chanel number hidden away in a closet somewhere.

  41. 41.

    Ecks

    I just spent the past hour catching up on 23/6, which was funny, but not as funny as the talking point on John McCain’s website (HT PeterJ for the link)

    The Issue: Partisanship
    There are serious issues at stake in this election, and serious differences between the candidates. And we will argue about them, as we should. But it should remain an argument among friends; each of us struggling to hear our conscience, and heed its demands; each of us, despite our differences, united in our great cause, and respectful of the goodness in each other.

    ROFLMFAO. John’s suggested hints for making sure the tone of the argument stays friendly: Insult your opponents character early and often, make sure to tell outrageous lies. Maybe have one of the two topmost leaders of your party say something warm and fuzzy and full of nothing but truth and sunshine, such as… oh, I don’t know…

    this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform – not even in the state senate.

    This is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word “victory” except when he’s talking about his own campaign. But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed … when the roar of the crowd fades away … when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot – what exactly is our opponent’s plan? What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he’s done turning back the waters and healing the planet? The answer is to make government bigger … take more of your money … give you more orders from Washington … and to reduce the strength of America in a dangerous world. America needs more energy … our opponent is against producing it.

    Victory in Iraq is finally in sight … he wants to forfeit.

    Terrorist states are seeking new-clear weapons without delay … he wants to meet them without preconditions.

    Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America … he’s worried that someone won’t read them their rights? Government is too big … he wants to grow it.

    Congress spends too much … he promises more.

    Taxes are too high … he wants to raise them.

    Way to listen to your conscience and respect the goodness Sarah! That’s a point I can talk about.

  42. 42.

    Cromagnon

    I’ll take Bush in a skirt to Dick in a skirt anyday

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dick in a skirt

  43. 43.

    r€nato

    I know it’s a cliché to say so, but I really do feel dumber after reading that transcript.

    Now you know how they make Republicans out of otherwise ordinary, decent people. Listen to that shit enough and pretty soon you’re too stupid to tie your shoes without Sean Hannity telling you which one to do first.

  44. 44.

    r€nato

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dick in a skirt

    there might be if you weren’t expecting one…

  46. 46.

    james

    Seriously, she needs to never stop talking.

    Never.Stop.Talking!

    Maybe she can go into the Smithsonian as opposed to any sort of elected office, she is literally a national treasure.

  48. 48.

    gbear

    Hmm, my last comment just got stuck in moderation. Is ‘d0nate’ a dirty word?

    Nope, ‘donate’ wasn’t the reason.

    You just know that Palin quote will trigger TBogg to post that pageant contestant video again. The one about Americans not able to afford maps

    TBoggs has another great post today who’s subject cannot be mentioned without triggering moderation. I was trying to link to this great protest of Sarah Palin’s ideologies.

  51. 51.

    r€nato

    Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.

    “What Senator McCain meant to say was… um… uh… he didn’t have any health insurance for five and a half years! POW! POW!”

  52. 52.

    Delia

    Alan Says:

    Hey, check this out. McCain take responsibility for the banking meltdown.

    Well, this is too good not to quote:

    OK, a correspondent directs me to John McCain’s article, Better Health Care at Lower Cost for Every American, in the Sept./Oct. issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the American Academy of Actuaries. You might want to be seated before reading this.

    Here’s what McCain has to say about the wonders of market-based health reform:

    Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.

  53. 53.

    Alan

    I found it via Huffington Post. But it wasn’t headlining the site like it is now. :)

    That one quote will probably end the election for McCain. Hopefully.

  54. 54.

    gbear

    OK, now my comments are out of moderation. My life has meaning again, but now I look like a moron. I hate everything.

  55. 55.

    Delia

    My life has meaning again, but now I look like a moron. I hate everything.

    It could be worse. You could be a wingnut or a troll working for points on the McCain website. Then you’d look like a moran.

  56. 56.

    tBone

    Slightly OT, but did you know that according to NoIQ, the Obama campaign is paying people $7 an hour to troll on their precious site?

    The trolls are just afraid that if they don’t keep up the pressure, Agent Flowbee will finally have an opening to release the “Whitey” video. Which, incidentally, also includes a scene of Barack windsurfing while wearing a turban and shouting “Death to America!” It’s true.

  58. 58.

    Conservatively Liberal

    yeah but our oil haz electrolites!

    Plus it has red, white and blue double and triple covalent carbon-carbon bonds and extra shiny valance electrons! To even consider commingling it with common oil is a sacrilege.

    If Palin is the smartest oil person in the nation, our oil people must be pretty fucking stupid. Her answer was painful to listen to and I may have killed a few brain cells processing that load of bullshit. What is really sad is that there are people who will ignore this and continue to support her.

    It is at the point that anyone who comes in here to defend Palin needs to be pointed at, mocked and ridiculed for being the idiot they surely are.

    Fuckwits.

  59. 59.

    Stuck in the Fun House

    the Obama campaign is paying people $7 an hour to troll on their precious site?

    That 7 bucks/hr should come with a year of intensive therapy afterwards, with a lifetime supply of Ratfuck Remover.

  61. 61.

    montysano

    Well we can kiss goodbye to national health care, the final phase of Grover Norquist’s scheme to prevent creeping socialism by Republican looting of the US Treasury was enacted today.

    Hey baby, we’re all Socialists now! I for one welcome Komrade Norquist into the fold.

  63. 63.

    Mary

    More evidence that Palin is a lying liar about Troopergate.

    An internal government document obtained by ABC News appears to contradict Sarah Palin’s most recent explanation for why she fired her public safety chief, the move which prompted the now-contested state probe into “Troopergate.” … Palin on Monday argued in a legal filing that she fired Monegan because he had a “rogue mentality” and was bucking her administration’s directives.

    “The last straw,” her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program. The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape.

    The McCain-Palin campaign echoed the charge in a press release it distributed Monday, concurrent with Palin’s legal filing. “Mr. Monegan persisted in planning to make the unauthorized lobbying trip to D.C.,” the release stated.

    But the governor’s staff authorized the trip, according to an internal travel document from the Department of Public Safety, released Friday in response to an open records request.

  64. 64.

    tBone

    It is at the point that anyone who comes in here to defend Palin needs to be pointed at, mocked and ridiculed for being the idiot they surely are.

    I hate to quibble with a good rant, but I’m pretty sure this has been the policy here ever since Palin was announced.

  65. 65.

    montysano

    It is at the point that anyone who comes in here to defend Palin needs to be pointed at, mocked and ridiculed for being the idiot they surely are.

    Has anyone come around here to support Palin? If so, I’ve missed it.

    While Tbogg may be the Demonic Conservative Ridicule Machine (ouch….. dangling modifier. Stay in school, kids!), Balloon Juice holds its own. Fools are not suffered in silence.

  66. 66.

    tBone

    Has anyone come around here to support Palin?

    blogreeder has, but I guess spoof characters don’t really count.

  68. 68.

    The Moar You Know

    The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape.

    Thank goodness, Alaska is #1 in something. I was beginning to think Sarah Palin might not have been as good at her job as was advertised.

  69. 69.

    Mary

    (Pssst — Danton! I posted that link, too, as the words “More evidence”. But the more links, the better. Just don’t let John catch you posting naked URLs, as he’s a bit paranoid about the page breaking. OTOH, it seems as if he’s out carousing tonight, so he’ll probably come back as John+7 and announce that he loves us all THIS much.)

  70. 70.

    Delia

    Has anyone come around here to support Palin?

    I found where they all went. Someone sent me a link to a Times Online story about Palin’s Kenyan witch-hunter pastor, and it turns out the Christianist weirdos swarmed the comments section, defending Palin and witch-hunting and making sure that all the Brits think we’re all a bunch of raving lunatics over here.

  71. 71.

    Brachiator

    The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape.

    If this is the case, what does it say that some people are viewing Alaska as some small-government, right thinking extra Christian haven for family values?

    If this is the case, what kind of person would discourage the government for paying for rape kits?

    If this is the case, what kind of person would insist that opposing abortion even in cases of rape or incest represents a positive ethical principle?

    If this is the case, what kind of person would even tangentially support Alaskan separatists?

    And what does it say that McCain and the Republicans see Palin as the representative of the best of “American” values?

  72. 72.

    zzyzx

    To be honest, I think Palin will do OK in the debate to some degree. She’s just going to ignore the questions and attack Obama with all of her answers. It’ll be lame but it might work.

  73. 73.

    zuzu's petals

    I want to know too. I’ve been thinking of switching to McCain so that I could take advantage of their Troll outreach program™, but if Obama does it too, then I don’t have to switch. Great news :)

    Oh my word, I can’t believe it. I always thought people were joking when they asked trolls how many McCain points they were earning, but …. oh my god, they’re serious.

  74. 74.

    zzyzx

    To be honest, I think Palin will do OK in the debate to some degree. She’s just going to ignore the questions and attack Obama with all of her answers. It’ll be lame but it might work.

  75. 75.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    so he’ll probably come back as John+7 and announce that he loves us all THIS much.)

    Oh, I better stay up then. When he isn’t ignoring me, he’s abusing me. I could go for some commentsexx.

  76. 76.

    jcricket

    More evidence that Palin is a lying liar about Troopergate.

    My guess is, absent stonewalling, there would enough to convict her. With stonewalling, it’s tougher, but we all know why she’s stonewalling – because she knows she’s in deep fucking shit if anything resembling the truth comes out.

    It’ll all come crashing down soon enough – her hands are all over TrooperGate like Rove and Cheney’s hands were on the Wilson/Plame thing.

    And the cover-up used to be worse than the crime, but Republicans have mastered the art of running out the clock to a level I would not have thought possible. They beat Exxon and WalMart and Scientology, who fight lost lawsuits for so long the original people who filed the suit end up dead.

  77. 77.

    Jon H

    “I’m wondering, did he lie in the police report about how much was stolen and when the story broke he decided to backtrack? ”

    I bet all he really had stolen was his ass cherry.

  78. 78.

    Montysano

    Real Time with Bill Maher was very nice tonight: Maher, Prof. Krugman, Sully, and Naomi Klein. (Sorry, but the 3rd panelist, Will.I.Am, just didn’t bring much game.) Like many here, I’ve had my differences with Sully, but I like his passion. His “choosing Palin = McCain unfit” is dead on.

    Wow: a little KO, a little Rachel, some Maher, and I feel like I gained back the IQ points that Hannity stole earlier today. Sweet jezus I despise that prick.

  79. 79.

    Third Eye Open

    “And I put my binoculars between her kneecaps and I have seen where empires have fallen”

    /+4 North Coast Old Rasputin Imperial Stout

  80. 80.

    Delia

    Oh my word, I can’t believe it. I always thought people were joking when they asked trolls how many McCain points they were earning, but …. oh my god, they’re serious.

    Well, they work even cheaper than L thought. For points. And way cheaper than what Agent Flowbee thinks the Obama trolls are being paid to bother the beautiful minds at NoIQ. So what do you get for McSame points? Bumper stickers? Yard signs? Baseball hats? Or if you earn lots of troll points do you get to be head of FEMA in the McSame Administration?

  82. 82.

    wasabi gasp

    Palin’s tits will be thoroughly prepped to deliver a commanding performance during the debate. Her lipstick will be especially luscious just in case her mouth interrupts her tits.

  84. 84.

    jcricket

    Or if you earn lots of troll points do you get to be head of FEMA in the McSame Administration?

    I think you get Lehman brothers stock, or something :-)

  85. 85.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Palin’s tits will be thoroughly prepped to deliver a commanding performance during the debate. Her lipstick will be especially luscious just in case her mouth interrupts her tits.

    Wow. That’s a debate I’d cum to.

    And knock off the sexist shit, people. This is your final final warning.

  86. 86.

    J. Michael Neal

    My guess is, absent stonewalling, there would enough to convict her. With stonewalling, it’s tougher, but we all know why she’s stonewalling – because she knows she’s in deep fucking shit if anything resembling the truth comes out.

    I have no idea why you would assume this. The last several weeks makes it clear that there is no correlation between the importance of a subject, and whether Palin will lie about it. The probability of the latter is 1, and so its correlation with any other item is 0.

  87. 87.

    jcricket

    I have no idea why you would assume this.

    I don’t think it’s the overall importance of the subject, but the more important it is to Palin’s brand (the more she has used an anecdote about the subject to burnish her self-image) the more committed and outrageous the lies seem to become.

    So the idea that she’s just “hockey-mom” or for “honest government” will be destroyed by a vindictive and false campaign against a state trooper and his boss. Being vicious, scheming, backstabbing pricks doesn’t exactly win people over. People might accept it from a man, but it’s doubtful Palin could win with that image.

    So I believe the lies are all about image protection. Either that, or as you said, she’s pathological and a sociopath, so the lies come fast and furious with no real reason behind them.

  89. 89.

    Kevin

    she’s pathological and a sociopath, so the lies come fast and furious with no real reason behind them.

    This one. She’s a Republican.

  90. 90.

    zuzu's petals

    So I’ve been trying to think what commedienne (sp?) Palin reminds me of with smarmy, insincere, breathy way she has of saying things, along with the little hand clasp and wink.

    I keep thinking of Molly Shannon’s NPR lady or Cheri Oteri’s morning TV chimpmunk, but there’s somebody that she’s just dead-on channeling … who is it?

  91. 91.

    bootlegger

    I know it’s a cliché to say so, but I really do feel dumber after reading that transcript. It sounds like she is saying Alaska gets first dibs on U.S. oil.

    Worse, actually. She is making the argument that the US would begin an oil embargo so that all that newly drilled oil will stay right here for Murkans. Rather than sell it on the global market, we’ll keep it to ourselves. That should go over well with our trading partners.

  92. 92.

    jcricket

    So I’ve been trying to think what commedienne (sp?) Palin reminds me of with smarmy, insincere, breathy way she has of saying things, along with the little hand clasp and wink.

    She’s got Bush’s stupidity and lack of curiosity. Cheney’s vindictiveness, paranoia and disdain for the law. And Inhofe’s Christianism.

    Republican Frankenstein’s monster is what she is. They’re a gonna regret nominating her, I feel.

  93. 93.

    Ed Marshall

    I’m still not sure where we are on the media landscape. They *know* that deregulation is always better. In this case, I’m going to have to wait for the editors of Reason to figure out how this is true.

    Obama has Rubin in his corner, and Rubin isn’t going to say anything different than that. He’s waiting for Reason, or anyone, to tell him how he didn’t fuck up.

    This sucks, if Obama wins we wind up with another round of Rubinomics where the democratic candidate has to forget about his domestic agenda and balance the budget. I don’t even know if that’s possible now. We wind up electing Obama and he has to save the bond market by being “responsible” after watching the GOP have an incredible, wasteful, orgy of pouring money into sand.

    What is the purpose of the democratic party? Who wants to elect the guy to finally clean up the mess the GOP leaves around every time?

  94. 94.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Who wants to elect the guy to finally clean up the mess the GOP leaves around every time?

    No one likes to clean toilets either but we all like to go in a sparkling clean and fresh bathroom.

  95. 95.

    Jonathan

    I personnaly believe that U.S. Americans are should get the oil so because some people out there in our nation don’t have oil and I believe that our energy like such as in Alaska and the Russia, everywhere like such as and I believe that they should our drive over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future. [for our children]

  96. 96.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    I personnaly believe that U.S. Americans are should get the oil so because some people out there in our nation don’t have oil and I believe that our energy like such as in Alaska and the Russia, everywhere like such as and I believe that they should our drive over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future. [for our children]

    LMFAO.

  97. 97.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Ya know, it’s kinda off topic and dangerously close to that earlier line I drew in the sand but I think beauty pageant contestants oughta be given a choice of answering the essay question or just wildly flashing their tatas at the end of the program. It just doesn’t seem fair to disadvantage the truly beautiful people.

  98. 98.

    Ed Marshall

    No one likes to clean toilets either but we all like to go in a sparkling clean and fresh bathroom.

    Yeah, but doesn’t it suck?

    A trillion dollars was a big scare number, don’t get me wrong, that’s one hell of a number. If you run the numbers the way want that was what was going to explode social security in some date twenty years down the road. We’re not going to adjust for inflation or anything, we’ve got that today to bail out complete idiocy that was foreseen years back by the unwashed hippies of liberal bloggerdom.

    WTF!!!

  99. 99.

    Kevin

    I keep thinking of Molly Shannon’s NPR lady or Cheri Oteri’s morning TV chimpmunk, but there’s somebody that she’s just dead-on channeling … who is it?

    Marge Gunderson’s retarded cousin?

  100. 100.

    KT

    I personnaly believe that U.S. Americans are should get the oil so because some people out there in our nation don’t have oil and I believe that our energy like such as in Alaska and the Russia, everywhere like such as and I believe that they should our drive over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future.

    Brilliant!

  101. 101.

    capelza

    I just have to say something about Bonehead..er I mean..Bob Owens and his personal Beauchamp Saga. The fuckwit actually says that Hatley is just a footnote to Beauchamp!

    [quote]But Hatley’s guilt or innocence in a separate matter is of little more than a footnote in Beauchamp’s stories, all three works of fiction that editor …[/quote]

    I swear to God…

  102. 102.

    Brachiator

    Our nation’s foremost “expert” on energy has no idea what the hell she is talking about, and after you listen to her, you will have no idea what the hell she is talking about, either.

    Earlier tonight I watched Bill Moyers interview Kevin Phillips, who declared simply that McCain has no knowledge of economics.

    Why are the top news anchors and reporters afraid to state the obvious, that Palin has not demonstrated understanding of any national economic, political, or foreign policy issue.

    Republicans may have a faulty universal translator that filters “oil babble babble ignorance molecule” into “America first! America first! McCain McCain POW!” But it is useless to pretend that Palin has any surface, let alone depths.

    jcricket Says:

    Being vicious, scheming, backstabbing pricks doesn’t exactly win people over. People might accept it from a man, but it’s doubtful Palin could win with that image.

    The Republican faithful simply deny the truth of these reports or shrug if off to Palin protecting her family. The base eat this stuff up.

  103. 103.

    Conservatively Liberal

    I hate to quibble with a good rant, but I’m pretty sure this has been the policy here ever since Palin was announced.

    I know, but it just had to be said again. ;)

    Someone sent me a link to a Times Online story about Palin’s Kenyan witch-hunter pastor, and it turns out the Christianist weirdos swarmed the comments section, defending Palin and witch-hunting and making sure that all the Brits think we’re all a bunch of raving lunatics over here.

    Watch the wingnuts dig up an obscure link between her pastor and Obama (they’re both humans!) and then claim it was a setup and that Obama is a witch-hunting islamofascist teacher of sex to kindergartners.

  104. 104.

    jcricket

    The Republican faithful simply deny the truth of these reports or shrug if off to Palin protecting her family. The base eat this stuff up.

    Right, like that study everyone’s quoting showing that feeding Republicans 100% sourced refutations of their beliefs causing more of them to believe the originally false information.

    With that kind of anti-truth cycle (it’s like a disease that responds to medication by killing you faster) WTF can you do?

    You have to grow the pie. Get more Democrats registered. Something Obama is certainly considered to have done. You have to GOTV. You may not be able to convert the cultists, but there’s a huge unwashed mass of “political athiests” that can (at least theoretically) become converts. I hate using that kind of religious language, because it’s not how I view my support for Obama (I was a Hillary supporter) – but it is how I view my support for the ideals of the Democratic party.

  105. 105.

    TenguPhule

    And what does it say that McCain and the Republicans see Palin as the representative of the best of “American” values?

    Rape is the first cherished traditional family value of the Big Daddy party.

    Making the Victims pay for it afterwards is just icing on their double-dildoed wetsuit.

  106. 106.

    TenguPhule

    No one likes to clean toilets either but we all like to go in a sparkling clean and fresh bathroom.

    Some people snap and shoot the dirty fucker who ruins the bathroom right after they just finished cleaning it.

    Just saying….

  107. 107.

    KT

    A trillion dollars was a big scare number, don’t get me wrong, that’s one hell of a number.

    I got bored one night and made a calculator to translate huge dollar amounts into more tangible concepts. Given the dimensions and weight of a dollar bill, here’s what $1 trillion yields:

    Weight: 20,042 elephants
    Length: 40 times the distance to the moon (when laid end to end)
    Height: 6786 miles. Almost exactly the distance from New York to Tokyo. (when stacked one on top of another)

  108. 108.

    Ed Marshall

    With that kind of anti-truth cycle (it’s like a disease that responds to medication by killing you faster) WTF can you do?

    Hit them in the back of the head with a ball-peen hammer. Seriously, I don’t know. What do you do with an idiot who believes things that aren’t true and gets more set in their way when you point out to them that they are wrong. It’s hard as hell to make the ignorant to understand they they are ignorant. It’s like how 90% of drivers think they they are above-average drivers.

  109. 109.

    Kevin

    Hilarious

    “The only difference between what the Fed did and what Hugo Chavez is doing in Venezuela is Chavez doesn’t put taxpayer dollars at risk when he takes over companies – he just takes them.”

    – Jim Bunning, Republican

  110. 110.

    zuzu's petals

    Timothy Egan lands one:

    People should stop picking on vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin because she hired a high school classmate to oversee the state agriculture division, a woman who said she was qualified for the job because she liked cows when she was a kid. And they should lay off the governor for choosing another childhood friend to oversee a failing state-run dairy, allowing the Soviet-style business to ding taxpayers for $800,000 in additional losses.

    What these critics don’t understand is that crony capitalism is how things are done in Alaska. They reward failure in the Last Frontier state. In that sense, it’s not unlike like Wall Street’s treatment of C.E.O.’s who run companies into the ground.

    Look at Carly Fiorina, John McCain’s top economic surrogate — if you can find her this week, after the news and her narrative fused in a negative way. Dismissed as head of Hewlett-Packard after the company’s stock plunged and nearly 20,000 workers were let go, she was rewarded with $44 million in compensation. Sweet!

    Thank God McCain wants to appoint a commission to study the practice that enriched his chief economic adviser. On the campaign trail this week, McCain and Palin pledged to “stop multimillion dollar payouts to C.E.O.’s” of failed companies. Good. Go talk to Fiorina at your next strategy session.

    NY Times

  112. 112.

    Kevin

    Like many here, I’ve had my differences with Sully, but I like his passion. His “choosing Palin = McCain unfit” is dead on.

    Sullivan bugs the hell out of me. I’m watching that Maher episode right now, and that ass won’t let anyone finish a comment without interrupting.

    Maher is a douchebag as well, but I’ve known that for a long time.

  113. 113.

    zuzu's petals

    Kevin Says:

    Like many here, I’ve had my differences with Sully, but I like his passion. His “choosing Palin = McCain unfit” is dead on.

    Sullivan bugs the hell out of me. I’m watching that Maher episode right now, and that ass won’t let anyone finish a comment without interrupting.

    I felt the same way. He had some good points, but geeze, what a blowhard.

  114. 114.

    Tattoosydney

    Someone sent me a link to a Times Online story about Palin’s Kenyan witch-hunter pastor, and it turns out the Christianist weirdos swarmed the comments section, defending Palin and witch-hunting and making sure that all the Brits think we’re all a bunch of raving lunatics over here.

    It’s scary over there…

    For the thousands who live in this country under the oppression of gangs and drug dealers (the bible calls that sorcery) with literally thousands gunned down on our streets I bet they wished someone would come in and run those vermin off even if it is called a “witch hunt”. Without the details I would assume this is a similar situation. For the mindless Christian hating liberal, when is the last time you saw an evangelical Christian stone someone or cut someone’s head off? Yet, it is the liberals who scream “choice” as they institutionalize butchering millions of defenseless children and can see no wrong in that but are shocked at the thought of this “witch hunt” conducted by “Sarah Palin”. You do a good job of justifying it as progressive. The German’s didn’t call it Choice or Progressive they called it the Final Solution yet you call Republicans Nazis. Just wait, Islamic law is now recognized in the UK and with Obama’s call for “Change” the U.S. will be next. Then all the gays, drug heads, rappers, Hollywood elitist, left wing media, teens with attitudes, abortionist, feminist and even evangelical Christians will truly see what religious oppression is all about. We don’t need change we need leadership BACK to the fundamentals that made our nation great. For those of you who think America is the Great Racist Satan, the poorest black man in Chicago is better off than half the people in Africa because of this great nation. You libs are quick to call someone racist and to say the religious right is intolerant of others yet your own racism, intolerance, hypocrisy, double standard and stupidity cannot stand the honest scrutiny by anyone with intelligence. In Jan.08 there were 35 Americans killed in the entire war zone of Iraq and the democrats howl yet in only one American city, Detroit, there were 39 killed in the same month. Where is your outrage? And by the way man-made Global Warming is nothing more than the tool of Socialist/Communist Elitist who could find no other way to destroy Capitalism, our economy and take away our freedom. But it’s all for the sake of our Children. I think this covers the basics.

    Governor Palin? Is that you?

  115. 115.

    Kevin

    I felt the same way. He had some good points, but geeze, what a blowhard.

    You’re right.

    What I want to see is Sully, Christopher Hitchens and Alexander Cockburn in a three-way fistfight. I’d probably pay to see that.

  116. 116.

    JGabriel

    Ed Marshall:

    Seriously, I don’t know. What do you do with an idiot who believes things that aren’t true and gets more set in their way when you point out to them that they are wrong.

    You say: “Dad, can we change the subject?”

    .

  117. 117.

    Rick Taylor

    The thing I dislike most about Republicans (and there’s a lot to choose from) is that they are perfectly happy to put incompetents in power if they think it will help them win. Bush was a perfect example; who cares if the President is a light weight? He has name recognition which will help him win. So I think that’s why I’ve been especially better ever since McCain chose Palin and with very few exceptions, they have not raised a peep.

  118. 118.

    zuzu's petals

    What I want to see is Sully, Christopher Hitchens and Alexander Cockburn in a three-way fistfight. I’d probably pay to see that.

    No kidding.

  119. 119.

    28 Percent

    Right, like that study everyone’s quoting showing that feeding Republicans 100% sourced refutations of their beliefs causing more of them to believe the originally false information.

    I read about that “study” so called and it is true that it only goes to show you how scared “scientists” are of FAITH and PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT. It is just like the MSM to push that on you non-believers and you eat it up I am not surprised because you will believe anything.

    THINK FOR YOURSELVES AND BELIEVE THE BIBLE

  121. 121.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    What do you do with an idiot who believes things that aren’t true and gets more set in their way when you point out to them that they are wrong. It’s hard as hell to make the ignorant to understand they they are ignorant.

    With the wingnuts it isn’t about facts, or knowledge vs. ignorance, or policy, or anything like that. It is just pure tribalism.

    They are the Red tribe.

    You and I are the Blue tribe.

    And they want us voted off the island – in some cases they’d actually like to see us killed.

    There isn’t any “because” to it – this sense of tribalism and threat and fear and anger and aggression directed against an alien “other” is their starting point, the core of their identity. Without it they have nothing to hold on to.

    You can’t reason with that mentality, there are no terms of common ground with which to begin a conversation with them, and if you attempt to create such common ground, it will get redefined as an attack on them.

    Example: just look at how they reacted to Bill Clinton’s welfare reform. Were they happy that he caved in to their ideology? Heck no – they were royally PO’d that he took away one of “their issues”, which just made them angrier and increased their sense of being threatened.

    Any attempt at compromise with these folks is just seen by them as an attempt to blur boundaries between the tribes, boundaries which must be protected above all else to prevent them from being contaminated by contact with the alien “other”.

    It is like a religion centered around notions of purity and pollution – more like State Shinto than Xtianity.

  122. 122.

    inugai_kenzo

    zuzu’s petals Says:

    So I’ve been trying to think what commedienne (sp?) Palin reminds me of with smarmy, insincere, breathy way she has of saying things, along with the little hand clasp and wink.

    I keep thinking of Molly Shannon’s NPR lady or Cheri Oteri’s morning TV chimpmunk, but there’s somebody that she’s just dead-on channeling … who is it?

    delurking to say–going further back are you thinking of nora dunn as pat stevens–that merv griffin expression of concern as she leaned forward? “ooooo.”

    …or kathy lee…

    ken + Cheladas (hi folks!)

  123. 123.

    Jonathan

    THINK FOR YOURSELVES AND BELIEVE THE BIBLE

    Ok, so…

    “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.” – Exodus 21:20-21

    28 Percent, do I have to use a certain kind of rod? Can I just use a PVC pipe from Home Depot or more like a straight up 2 by 4. I don’t mean to sound anal, I’m just trying to think for myself here…

  126. 126.

    The Moar You Know

    THINK FOR YOURSELVES AND BELIEVE THE BIBLE

    I’m shocked this hasn’t been engraved on a courthouse in the South somewhere.

  127. 127.

    The Moar You Know

    28 Percent, do I have to use a certain kind of rod? Can I just use a PVC pipe from Home Depot or more like a straight up 2 by 4. I don’t mean to sound anal, I’m just trying to think for myself here…

    Real Christians use 5/8″ rebar. Builds arm muscles, and that slave ain’t gettin’ up after a session with one of those.

  128. 128.

    Jonathan

    OMG !!!

    5/8″ …

    You are so ignorant… The bible took place in Mesopotamia in like 2000 BC and the metric system wasnt even invented yet!!

    SO THERE! STUPID LIBERAL!

  129. 129.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    As community service, let me remind you that this is the weekend when the batteries in your spoof detector are due for their annual replacement. Mine uses a 9-volt, but your model(s) may be different.

  130. 130.

    oh really

    Late to the thread, but whenever the subject is Palin* I feel compelled to opine that I think she is a complete idiot, a danger to herself and others, and undoubtedly the worst choice for VP that I’m aware of — and that’s saying something given the existence of J. Danforth “Mr. Potatoe Head” Quayle.

    Quayle always made me think of a game show host. Tonight in the NYTimes Charles Blow’s Op-Ed has the following intro:

    Support for Sarah Palin among Republicans seems just as superficial as she is. When asked why they liked her, the answers described a talk-show host, not a vice president.

    Talk show host versus game show host. Who’s the intellectual winner in that contest?

    *Or McCain, who looks and sounds dumber every time he opens his mouth.

  131. 131.

    The Moar You Know

    OMG

    5/8” …

    You are so ignorant… The bible took place in Mesopotamia in like 2000 BC and the metric system wasnt even invented yet!!

    I’M NO LIEBURUL I CAN’T EVEN READ.

    I forgot, I don’t have to use scientific terms here. Let me put it in terms all of us good Christians can understand:

    .62 caliber. That’s the diameter of rebar you want to use to beat righteousness back into your slave with.

  132. 132.

    rikyrah

    it is stunning.

    I never thought we’d find someone that could make Dubya’s comprehension of the English language seem Shakespearean in comparison.

    But, here she is: Caribou Barbie.

  133. 133.

    oh really

    THINK FOR YOURSELVES AND BELIEVE THE BIBLE

    Hahahahahaahahahahahhaha. That’s rich. Think for yourselves and believe the Bible.

    What am I supposed to do about all the mistakes, inconsistencies, physical impossibilities, and bullshit?

    I will say this, if I believe the Bible, I believe God is a genocidal maniac. I also believe bats are birds, people used to live for hundreds and hundreds of years, and there really is a way that Noah crammed all those animals (predators and prey alike) on that boat he built.

    Sorry, it’s nonsense and any person of modest intelligence who hasn’t been brainwashed into complete idiocy can see that it’s nonsense.

    Hell, my cats aren’t that smart and even they don’t believe a word of the Bible. (I used to read it to them at bedtime, but they couldn’t relate to the New Testament and the Old just made them that much more bloodthirsty.)

    THINK FOR YOURSELVES AND BELIEVE THE BIBLE

    Why are you yelling? Do you think that yelling makes your statement any less silly?

  135. 135.

    zuzu's petals

    But it’s the sort of breathy, insincere, smarminess you see here, for instance (starting @8:20), the “blunders were made,” “the beauty of American elections” … that just seems like such a parody.

  136. 136.

    TenguPhule

    What do you do with an idiot who believes things that aren’t true and gets more set in their way when you point out to them that they are wrong.

    There is no problem that doesn’t have a simple solution provided you’re willing to shed enough blood for it.

  137. 137.

    Conservatively Liberal

    As community service, let me remind you that this is the weekend when the batteries in your spoof detector are due for their annual replacement. Mine uses a 9-volt, but your model(s) may be different.

    Mine is nookular powered. ;)

    Support for Sarah Palin among Republicans seems just as superficial as she is. When asked why they liked her, the answers described a talk-show host, not a vice president.

    Their heads are full of bible crap so there is no room for anything like reason, objectivity or depth of character. They like simple decisions. If there is an R next to the name, then that is all they need to know. If you ask them why they support someone don’t expect an answer that will make sense to normal people.

    It’s just the way they are wired shorted out.

  138. 138.

    Chuck Butcher

    I’ve reached a point of impotent rage. I lost an hour long composition on my blog, gone. The site was hanging up so I tried to copy to save it – bye bye. I have no idea.

    Palin has made such a mockery of politics as VP candidate that she is quite literally immaterial. Nothing said here or in the media is going to dissuade her coterie and by now, no thinking person will pay attention to her.

    Biden will have to in the debates and the crux of that is to not appear condescending to her stupidities or disrespectful of her shortcomings. Her pitbull with lipstick schtick will morph into poor lil wooomun picked on by mean old guy if he fillets her, which should be easy for Biden. I’d say the trick is for Joe to be the folksy, friendly, very astute man he is and just let her hang herself.

    I quite honestly think the Democrats, as a campaign, are farthest ahead to let Palin damage Palin/McPOW with no particular help. The media’s fuse for being lied to has shortened lately – well Gregory and Blitzer seem to think opinions vary or some such – but the Democrats can safely ignore her.

    I think there is a lot more to be gained by trying real hard to drive McPOW into a frothing rage, and that should be pretty easy to do. He has buttons all over him with big push me signs and oppo should be able to define them into nice narrow targets. He’s been showing some real signs of stress lately – be nice to help him along…

  139. 139.

    Martin

    I’ve reached a point of impotent rage. I lost an hour long composition on my blog, gone. The site was hanging up so I tried to copy to save it – bye bye. I have no idea.

    Sorry, uh, wait… your blog was fucking up and driving you to rage and you came HERE to post? I have an easier time permanently scrawling my thoughts into an inert gas than getting the submit button to work here (or double posting, just to twist the knife a little).

  140. 140.

    Chuck Butcher

    In two years I’ve lost one or two posts here. I think I’ve doubled a couple times. Generally my problem is getting in. This bunch keeps me amused so complaining here might provide some – you just did.

    The gone post had spit and mouth foam all over it. As an actual lefty by today’s standards I am watching our Republican govt engage in socialism and it’s driven me bug fuck crazy. Now I want some, I want single payer health care to start and I want all income of any sort taxed, no FICA cut off, and if you’re a CEO making over 20X your average worker, everything over that including private jets, executive washroom, options, all of it taxed at 70%. All wealth in the top 10% taxed at 60%, all of it, nothing hidden away. Only break is for active money – money in concrete working assets – ie factory buildings, equipment – and no your fucking yacht doesn’t count as a small business S-corp. Capital gains and inheritance taxes at 25% once 250K TOTAL income is passed, mortgage deduction for 1 house and none for houses in top 10% valuation. Overseas-ed money taxed at 60%, all corps taxed on US operations no matter where headquartered & offshored headquarters no military or nat security contracts.

    By the goddam way, the FED can start making its Payment In Lieu of Taxes to my fucking county. You rat bastards are holding huge property tax income and paying nothing despite your contract to do so when you federalized the land. I don’t give a rat’s patoot about timber payments and I don’t want to hear about welfare, you sons a bitches pay the fuck up. By rights we can take it back and by god what you’re supposed to pay amounts to a hill of spit versus the value of the taxes we’d collect on it. Over half my county of 3500 square miles is in your reneging hands. How’d you like losing half your county’s income while you still have to take care of it you eastern welfare mouthing sonofabitch Congressman?

    There, I feel a little better…

  141. 141.

    Xenos

    It is old, although I have not seen it posted here, but this is exactly what I was reminded of during the Gibson interview, with that horrible, choked, duplicitous voice of hers.

    I am so happy someone could be bothered to edit the video to make that happen. The internet can be a beautiful thing.

  143. 143.

    slip

    zuzu’s petal’s says:

    So I’ve been trying to think what commedienne (sp?) Palin reminds me of with smarmy, insincere, breathy way she has of saying things, along with the little hand clasp and wink.

    I keep thinking of Dustin Hoffman as Dorothy Michaels in Tootsie.

  144. 144.

    PeterJ

    Palin’s tits will be thoroughly prepped to deliver a commanding performance during the debate.

    Reminded me of this.

    Warning. Disturbing video that might bring back haunting memories of the 2000 Florida election, Giuliani crossdressing, and will most likely induce severe nausea.

  145. 145.

    Dennis - SGMM

    Palin’s style reminds me of those commercials for cleaning products and utensils not found in stores.
    “It slices, it dices, it removes stains! Call now and we’ll double your order! That’s right; a two-hundred dollar value for only $19.95!”

  146. 146.

    Dennis - SGMM

    While looking up something completely different I stumbled across the FDIC Failed Bank List.
    Ameribank, based in Northfork, WV, is the latest to go under. That makes twelve banks that have gone into FDIC receivership this year. The FDIC is still solvent thanks to fees paid over the years by banks. Maybe it’s time to impose a transaction fee on Wall Street to build a bailout fund for the next bubble.

  148. 148.

    ellie

    Hey Chuck! I completely agree. This Wall Street bailout has made me so goddamn angry I can barely see straight. We all know how it is going to go down: in a year or two, when the mess is a distant memory, fucktard Republicans will wail against any new proposed regulation as having a strangling effect on business. And the Dems will roll as they do. And the taxpayer will pay for it again and again.

    I am just glad my socialist father isn’t alive to see this. It probably would have killed him, if W getting elected twice didn’t already.

  149. 149.

    jcricket

    BTW, you know who also doesn’t blink? Steve Forbes. And we all thought electing that yahoo was a bad idea.

    Any attempt at compromise with these folks is just seen by them as an attempt to blur boundaries between the tribes, boundaries which must be protected above all else to prevent them from being contaminated by contact with the alien “other”.

    I concur, which is why I think convincing the people that don’t vote, and the
    moderates who aren’t so rigid is a better strategy. I know that means writing off 30% of the population until they change on their own (or more likely, die off), but you don’t need that percent to win an election at the national level.

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    jcricket

    If elected, Sarah Palin will only flag molecules that are wearing flag pins.

    She’s against embryonic flag molecule research too. Which is the pressing moral issue of our time.

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    PC

    She’s against embryonic flag molecule research too. Which is the pressing moral issue of our time.

    That’s all well and good, but what is her stance on manimals?

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    Tax Analyst

    Cromagnon Says:

    I’ll take Bush in a skirt to Dick in a skirt anyday

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Dick in a skirt

    Hey, keep your Dick out of my skirt, will ya’, buddy?

    Sheesh…there might be children out there watching…at least wait until they go away.

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    Brachiator

    zuzu’s petals Says:
    So I’ve been trying to think what commedienne (sp?) Palin reminds me of with smarmy, insincere, breathy way she has of saying things, along with the little hand clasp and wink.

    I’m not sure which comic Palin might most be like, but her combination of ignorance and arrogance reminds me of the absurdly funny SNL Celebrity Jeopardy skits, with an increasingly exasperated Alex Trebeck (Will Ferrell) astounded at the “answers” provided by Sean Connery (Darrell Hammond)

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    Birdzilla

    Why dont this tupid liberal screwball wear a skirt instead then everyone can reconise him as a stupid liberal doofus

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