This is something I cannot understand about fundy xians. They are “God warriors,” and “invaders,” “infiltrators.”
If their philosophy is sound, people are attracted. If they are genuinely kind and loving, again, people are attracted. How come Ghandi got it, “be the change you want to see in the world,” but these fundies don’t? Why don’t they heed the Sermon on the Mount??
Xianists lack faith. Their karma ran over their dogma. Crazy people who condemn everyone else do not attract trust and faith. Plus, if you meet someone thumping their Bible like crazy, you cannot trust them. They’ll rob you blind, and if you catch them, then they’ll say the devil was talking to them and they were deceived.
Must’ve been the devil who made Palin lie and lie and lie in her speeches.
4.
SpotWeld
Can we get someone with a good foundation in American history to let us know if this really is the nuttiest campaign in modern history, or if it just feel like it?
Seriously, we must be in the top 5 here at least?
5.
mantis
I read about the witch hunter a little while ago. I’m so glad there’s video.
Gee, I wonder if the media would be more interested in this if the candidate being blessed by a Kenyan witch hunter were someone else.
6.
Comrade Jake
This might actually get traction in the media, because the pastor is black.
7.
Porco Rosso
Oh god,
Listening to Bush…
What is making that awful rubbing noise…
8.
demkat620
How can anybody call us anything other than a banana republic? Are we a country or a parody?
We need to find the 19% who approve of Bush and lock them up. They are a danger to themselves and others.
9.
Jon H
“Can we get someone with a good foundation in American history to let us know if this really is the nuttiest campaign in modern history, or if it just feel like it?”
I keep saying, this election is being driven by the ghost of Hunter S. Thompson.
10.
Jon H
So did Bush say that a new Depression is a “gathering threat”?
I can’t stand to listen to the moron.
11.
SGEW
But witch-hunting and the “invisible war” against the “enemies of God” are All-American and stuff. Rev. Wright was all, like, “God d@mn America” and “kill all the white people” and all that.
Also remember: in the Episcopal church’s recent the schism, the crazy gay-hatin’ ones joined the Anglican faction in Kenya. They got the gold standard of gay hatin’ and witch huntin’ over there.
This stuff is as weird as the whole Catholic-Celtic crossover (mistletoe and fertility symbols and all). Now we have the Fundamental Evangelical/African Witch-Hunting crossover. But it’s been going on for a while.
12.
JackieBinAZ
For some reason, this song has been stuck on my mind all afternoon…
In fact, some of the most basic details, including the $700 billion figure Treasury would use to buy up bad debt, are fuzzy.
“It’s not based on any particular data point,” a Treasury spokeswoman told Forbes.com Tuesday. “We just wanted to choose a really large number.”
I always wondered why this number was being treated as gospel. No one seemed to ask where that particular figure came from, and apparently there was no solid rationale behind it. As more and more stuff like this comes out, it’s all the more reason why we should be taking our time to do this right.
14.
SGEW
. . . this election is being driven by the ghost of Hunter S. Thompson.
It all makes sense now! Hunter S. Thompson, by filling his body with immeasurable amounts of psychotropic materials, purposely sacrificed himself at the altar of Politics and then launched his noneuclidian hypno uber molecules into the atmosphere via Fist Cannon. Once past the stratosphere, the HST radiation seized the memosphere, and is manipulating events by increasing the Crazy Factor by several orders of magnitude.
It’s the only possible explanation.
15.
Comrade General Stuck
But witch-hunting and the “invisible war” against the “enemies of God” are All-American and stuff. Rev. Wright was all, like, “God d@mn America” and “kill all the white people” and all that.
Hell, that’s just common chit chat in many fundie churchs here in the lower 48. They would watch this and get a collective hardon. The only minor possible difference would be switching “demon” for “witches”. Speaking of which , maybe we could git this soothsayer voodoo priest of Palin’s to come around exorcise whatever the fuck is possessing this sorry ass server.
16.
SGEW
Here’s a good question to ask Palin:
“Do you believe in an invisible war against God’s enemies that requires Christians to sacrifice their lives if need be?”
It’s a yes or no question. If “no,” she’s alienated that whole Evangelical base. If “yes,” she’s crazy koo koo ca ca, and cannot be trusted near executive power.
. . .
You know. If things worked the way I wanted them to.
17.
Martin
Forget the witch hunting, what about the greedy Jews!
The second area whereby God wants us, wants to penetrate in our society is in the economic area. The Bible says that the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous. It’s high time that we have top Christian businessmen, businesswomen, bankers, you know, who are men and women of integrity running the economics of our nations. That’s what we are waiting for. That’s part and parcel of transformation. If you look at the — you know — if you look at the Israelites, that’s how they work. And that’s how they are, even today.
h/t GOS.
18.
SGEW
If you look at the—you know—if you look at the Israelites, that’s how they work. And that’s how they are, even today.
And people think that McCain/Palin might win Florida.
(snort)
19.
Litlebritdifrnt
Like I said the last time we discussed this, if this woman gets elected I am so fucked, and so running to the store to buy fire retardant clothing. Needless to say she scares the ever loving treacle out of me. “The gift” is not a curse, nor is it devil worship related, it is a “gift”, the moosehunter might want to consider where that “gift” came from.
20.
Comrade Jake
So I just watched the clip. You know who that Pastor reminds me of? The Nigerians Dateline NBC catches in financial scams.
Seriously. What do you want to bet this guy was once spamming millions trying to set up a bank transfer for the King who’d just escaped a military coup?
In Africa, witch hunting has become a deadly practice that is not rooted in disciplining spiritually immoral individuals, but simply as a measure to destroy traditional African religion.
Neighbors that have shunned off traditional beliefs (in favor of Christianity and Islam) ban together and kill women, including the eldery. They point to the power of witches, a common and undisputed fact in Africa, as a reason for this mass and unwarranted killings. But they never provide solid proof of any equal action or immoral act taken by witches. When have African witches ever killed 10, 20, 30 people in a single day and burned down the homes of their families?
Psychotic naked man, swinging a fluorescent bulb tube, standing on a ledge outside his building (actually the metal container of a roll-down storefront security screen).
What does the cop do? Tasers him.
Man falls 10′, dies.
26.
Jon H
SGEW wrote: “Also remember: in the Episcopal church’s recent the schism, the crazy gay-hatin’ ones joined the Anglican faction in Kenya. They got the gold standard of gay hatin’ and witch huntin’ over there.”
Yeah, no kidding.
Like America should be looking for religious leadership to a continent where the devout claim their penises have been stolen by witches.
FAIL.
21st Century: You’re Doing It Wrong.
27.
Comrade NonyNony
This might actually get traction in the media, because the pastor is black.
Yeah. It’ll get traction.
By next week Limbaugh will be playing clips and telling people that this is another one of Obama’s ministers.
And as proof he’ll say “He’s black Arab! From the Arab parts of Africa! Just like Obama!” And that’ll be all the proof the Dittoheads need.
28.
necros
Be afraid. Be very afraid. He talks about Bush getting elected by the believers like that’s a good thing, which should send a chill down everyone’s spine.
I grew up in a Pentecostal church — The Church of God of Prophecy. You do not want a Pentecostal anywhere near the button. I spent my entire childhood hearing paranoid End Times fantasies about Ronald Wilson Reagan (aka Mr. 666, The Anti-Christ) and how grocery store scanners were a harbinger of the Tribulation. Apparently Palin’s church believes in similar End Times fantasies — only they’ve updated the props and players.
He talks about being a child of the ’70s and being part of the Revival movement from back then. I bet the literalist teachings of Estus Pirkle had a huge impact on his outlook.
It is well and truly amusing to see conservatives try to defend this nonsense simply by going “OH YEAH WELL LOOK WHAT WRIGHT SAID!!” completely missing out on the fact that 1) the only reason anybody cares about what anybody at Palin’s church said is because the right-wing decided Preachers are fair game and 2) they already shot their wad on Wright six months ago (getting Obama’s best speech ever out of it to boot) and about nobody really cares about that “controversy” anymore.
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JonChicago
This is not creationist this is wacko.
34.
mynameishusseintoo
The end of the world is coming I gotta move to fucking Alaska.
Where the hell did she get this moron?????
For those unwilling to sit through the whole video above, here are the highlights:
5:00: “We need God taking over our education system. If we have God in our schools, we will not have our kids being taught how to worship Buddha, how to worship Muhammad. We will not have in the curriculum witchcraft and sorcery.”
5:35: “The other area is the media. We need believers in the media. We need God taking over the media in our lives.”
7:00: Palin on stage being fully blessed by Crazy Witchfighter Guy to be God’s instrument in government. He’s praying that she be used as a tool to combat witchcraft.
36.
Mike H.
How did this guy end up in Alaska? I want the two crazy black pastors to debate.
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Noah
Dude, even Sarah Palin’s signature is fucking loopy!
SGEW
Witch hunting. Now that’s Mavricky.
LiberalTarian
This is something I cannot understand about fundy xians. They are “God warriors,” and “invaders,” “infiltrators.”
If their philosophy is sound, people are attracted. If they are genuinely kind and loving, again, people are attracted. How come Ghandi got it, “be the change you want to see in the world,” but these fundies don’t? Why don’t they heed the Sermon on the Mount??
Xianists lack faith. Their karma ran over their dogma. Crazy people who condemn everyone else do not attract trust and faith. Plus, if you meet someone thumping their Bible like crazy, you cannot trust them. They’ll rob you blind, and if you catch them, then they’ll say the devil was talking to them and they were deceived.
Must’ve been the devil who made Palin lie and lie and lie in her speeches.
SpotWeld
Can we get someone with a good foundation in American history to let us know if this really is the nuttiest campaign in modern history, or if it just feel like it?
Seriously, we must be in the top 5 here at least?
mantis
I read about the witch hunter a little while ago. I’m so glad there’s video.
Gee, I wonder if the media would be more interested in this if the candidate being blessed by a Kenyan witch hunter were someone else.
Comrade Jake
This might actually get traction in the media, because the pastor is black.
Porco Rosso
Oh god,
Listening to Bush…
What is making that awful rubbing noise…
demkat620
How can anybody call us anything other than a banana republic? Are we a country or a parody?
We need to find the 19% who approve of Bush and lock them up. They are a danger to themselves and others.
Jon H
“Can we get someone with a good foundation in American history to let us know if this really is the nuttiest campaign in modern history, or if it just feel like it?”
I keep saying, this election is being driven by the ghost of Hunter S. Thompson.
Jon H
So did Bush say that a new Depression is a “gathering threat”?
I can’t stand to listen to the moron.
SGEW
But witch-hunting and the “invisible war” against the “enemies of God” are All-American and stuff. Rev. Wright was all, like, “God d@mn America” and “kill all the white people” and all that.
Also remember: in the Episcopal church’s recent the schism, the crazy gay-hatin’ ones joined the Anglican faction in Kenya. They got the gold standard of gay hatin’ and witch huntin’ over there.
This stuff is as weird as the whole Catholic-Celtic crossover (mistletoe and fertility symbols and all). Now we have the Fundamental Evangelical/African Witch-Hunting crossover. But it’s been going on for a while.
JackieBinAZ
For some reason, this song has been stuck on my mind all afternoon…
Greg
The $700 billion figure was plucked from thin air:
I always wondered why this number was being treated as gospel. No one seemed to ask where that particular figure came from, and apparently there was no solid rationale behind it. As more and more stuff like this comes out, it’s all the more reason why we should be taking our time to do this right.
SGEW
It all makes sense now! Hunter S. Thompson, by filling his body with immeasurable amounts of psychotropic materials, purposely sacrificed himself at the altar of Politics and then launched his noneuclidian hypno uber molecules into the atmosphere via Fist Cannon. Once past the stratosphere, the HST radiation seized the memosphere, and is manipulating events by increasing the Crazy Factor by several orders of magnitude.
It’s the only possible explanation.
Comrade General Stuck
Hell, that’s just common chit chat in many fundie churchs here in the lower 48. They would watch this and get a collective hardon. The only minor possible difference would be switching “demon” for “witches”. Speaking of which , maybe we could git this soothsayer voodoo priest of Palin’s to come around exorcise whatever the fuck is possessing this sorry ass server.
SGEW
Here’s a good question to ask Palin:
“Do you believe in an invisible war against God’s enemies that requires Christians to sacrifice their lives if need be?”
It’s a yes or no question. If “no,” she’s alienated that whole Evangelical base. If “yes,” she’s crazy koo koo ca ca, and cannot be trusted near executive power.
. . .
You know. If things worked the way I wanted them to.
Martin
Forget the witch hunting, what about the greedy Jews!
h/t GOS.
SGEW
And people think that McCain/Palin might win Florida.
(snort)
Litlebritdifrnt
Like I said the last time we discussed this, if this woman gets elected I am so fucked, and so running to the store to buy fire retardant clothing. Needless to say she scares the ever loving treacle out of me. “The gift” is not a curse, nor is it devil worship related, it is a “gift”, the moosehunter might want to consider where that “gift” came from.
Comrade Jake
So I just watched the clip. You know who that Pastor reminds me of? The Nigerians Dateline NBC catches in financial scams.
Seriously. What do you want to bet this guy was once spamming millions trying to set up a bank transfer for the King who’d just escaped a military coup?
bago
Witch hunt!
SGEW
Obligatory Monty Python Video.
I hope that we will have a chance to get better.
J. Michael Neal
Christ. Wright is nuts, but at least he’s entertaining. This guy is too boring to make the craziness entertaining.
Where’s Alan Keyes when you really need him?
mantis
Here’s a bit on the lovely practice of witch hunting in Kenya:
An example.
Jon H
OT: Stupid cop tricks
Psychotic naked man, swinging a fluorescent bulb tube, standing on a ledge outside his building (actually the metal container of a roll-down storefront security screen).
What does the cop do? Tasers him.
Man falls 10′, dies.
Jon H
SGEW wrote: “Also remember: in the Episcopal church’s recent the schism, the crazy gay-hatin’ ones joined the Anglican faction in Kenya. They got the gold standard of gay hatin’ and witch huntin’ over there.”
Yeah, no kidding.
Like America should be looking for religious leadership to a continent where the devout claim their penises have been stolen by witches.
FAIL.
21st Century: You’re Doing It Wrong.
Comrade NonyNony
Yeah. It’ll get traction.
By next week Limbaugh will be playing clips and telling people that this is another one of Obama’s ministers.
And as proof he’ll say “He’s
blackArab! From the Arab parts of Africa! Just like Obama!” And that’ll be all the proof the Dittoheads need.necros
Be afraid. Be very afraid. He talks about Bush getting elected by the believers like that’s a good thing, which should send a chill down everyone’s spine.
I grew up in a Pentecostal church — The Church of God of Prophecy. You do not want a Pentecostal anywhere near the button. I spent my entire childhood hearing paranoid End Times fantasies about Ronald Wilson Reagan (aka Mr. 666, The Anti-Christ) and how grocery store scanners were a harbinger of the Tribulation. Apparently Palin’s church believes in similar End Times fantasies — only they’ve updated the props and players.
He talks about being a child of the ’70s and being part of the Revival movement from back then. I bet the literalist teachings of Estus Pirkle had a huge impact on his outlook.
rikyrah
this is an ad.
this is SO an ad.
emme
Oh. My. God.
Sam
SGEW,
I think they joined up with the Episcopals in Nigeria, rather than Kenya.
Xanthippas
It is well and truly amusing to see conservatives try to defend this nonsense simply by going “OH YEAH WELL LOOK WHAT WRIGHT SAID!!” completely missing out on the fact that 1) the only reason anybody cares about what anybody at Palin’s church said is because the right-wing decided Preachers are fair game and 2) they already shot their wad on Wright six months ago (getting Obama’s best speech ever out of it to boot) and about nobody really cares about that “controversy” anymore.
JonChicago
This is not creationist this is wacko.
mynameishusseintoo
The end of the world is coming I gotta move to fucking Alaska.
Where the hell did she get this moron?????
Tim in SF
For those unwilling to sit through the whole video above, here are the highlights:
5:00: “We need God taking over our education system. If we have God in our schools, we will not have our kids being taught how to worship Buddha, how to worship Muhammad. We will not have in the curriculum witchcraft and sorcery.”
5:35: “The other area is the media. We need believers in the media. We need God taking over the media in our lives.”
7:00: Palin on stage being fully blessed by Crazy Witchfighter Guy to be God’s instrument in government. He’s praying that she be used as a tool to combat witchcraft.
Mike H.
How did this guy end up in Alaska? I want the two crazy black pastors to debate.