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More Functionality

by John Cole|  October 2, 200811:50 am| 208 Comments

This post is in: Previous Site Maintenance

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We had to get rid of the comment buttons in the comments because that addon just sucked. In place of buttons is a list of things you can do. For example, if you want to block quote something, it should look like this while you are writing it:

The finished product will look like this:

If you see a WP site with a comment button plugin that works well, let us know. Until now, you have to do it manually.

Also, we can now do polls:

[poll id=2]

*** Update ***

There is no plugin that can deal with end-user stupidity. If you can not figure out how to use the tags listed below from the pictures I have given you above, this is not my problem or a problem with the html. That is simple operator fail.

Or maybe not. It looks like something is all funked up.

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  1. 1.

    zzyzx

    October 2, 2008 at 11:51 am

    No one ever likes a redesign at first.

  2. 2.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 11:56 am

    This is how you blockquote something:

    See how easy that is!

    This is how you embed a link:

    I love the new site- is my favorite site

  3. 3.

    dr. luba

    October 2, 2008 at 11:57 am

    well, there’s still all that Pajamas Media crap in the left column.
    At least put it on the right (preferably far right and off of my
    screen) where it belongs…………… Otherwise, cleaner
    interface, nicer fonts, but I’ve only just now glanced at the re-do
    the first time. Worth it, though, if I can stop seeing that
    WordPress error screen every other time I try and log on.

  4. 4.

    Kevin

    October 2, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Harumph.

    This is how you blockquote something:

    Hey look at that.

    FAIL

  5. 5.

    joe from Lowell

    October 2, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    So, you upgraded to something less functional?

  6. 6.

    Annette

    October 2, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    That also cleaned up a boatload of apache errors in the system
    logs. Testing refresh to verify no oddball junk bloating the
    logs…

  7. 7.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    For christ sakes, are you people drinking? I am not going to go through and fix every blockquote. Why do you all insert spaces all over the place?

    blockquotetag+text you want blockquoted+closeblockquotetag

    I figured it out.

  8. 8.

    SpotWeld

    October 2, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    I like the look, but I’m still deciding on the interface.

  9. 9.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Should read: “You can attempt to use these tags:”

  10. 10.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Kevin- I have now edited your post twice. You keep going back and inserting shit so it does not work. Are you doing this intentionally?

  11. 11.

    Comrade Bey

    October 2, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    “No one ever likes a redesign at first.”

    ‘cept me. New = shiny! Well crap. Blockquote hosed.
    Ihate everything now…..

  12. 12.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    This is a test of the emergency blockquoting system.

    If this were a real emergency, your hair would be on
    fire. Edit: Apparently the blockquote emergency broadcast system is
    FAIL. Expect to burn to death.

  13. 13.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    test.

    test

    test test

    test

    ?

  14. 14.

    Annette

    October 2, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    @joe from Lowell: No, a piece of
    crap, outdated plugin was dropped so that people would use code
    that actually works (manually) rather than relying on a hit or miss
    use of something that works marginally.

  15. 15.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    This is a test of the emergency blockquoting system. If this were
    a real emergency, your hair would be on fire.

    The goggles! They do nothing!

  16. 16.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    QUIT FUCKING HITTING RETURN AFTER YOUR BLOCKQUOTE OPENING TAG. DID YOU SEE ANY SPACE IN THE PICTURES ABOVE?

    Christ on a crutch.

  17. 17.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    ??

    Why do some blockquotes work but not others?

    I swear I did nothing different!

    blockquote test

    ?

  18. 18.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    QUIT FUCKING HITTING RETURN AFTER YOUR BLOCKQUOTE OPENING TAG.

    I didn’t! I swear! [I’m editing this post now, and it
    appears that a return was added, even though I didn’t hit return.
    For reals! And when I go back and edit (after removing the return)
    it’s back! This shit is above my pay scale. Me feel stupid now.]

  19. 19.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    The best part of Balloon Juice 3.0 is watching John’s meltdown over
    his retarded commenters. Onward to BJ4.01!!!

    Also, testing blockquote…. do I win?

  20. 20.

    Kevin

    October 2, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    @John Cole: Sorry, I never saw that
    you had edited it, until just now.

    I have no idea what I am doing wrong, I mean, I put the <
    blockquote > and < /blockquote > around what I’m trying
    to quote, and the quoted text gets moved below the blockquote. I
    thought I understood HTML tags..

  21. 21.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    SGEW- Please tell me you are screwing with me and you are not this stupid. Please.

  22. 22.

    John Harrold

    October 2, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    I tried to post this in the test poll thing. Is it possible to get
    rid of the numbers beside the comments? They take up a lot of
    screen real estate but don’t really provide much in the way of
    utility.

  23. 23.

    Comrade Bey

    October 2, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Once more into the breach dear friends

    /crosses fingers At the risk of infuriating the great
    and powerful JC — me too. Something is inserting the returns. I
    remove them and presto! they reappear

  24. 24.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    SGEW is right, John. I didn’t hit return after my blockquote tag,
    but one was inserted anyway. It showed up properly on the preview.

  25. 25.

    Stacy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    This is a blockquote.

    This is a blockquote with a line break in it…. here…

  26. 26.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    TEST TEST TEST

    test

  27. 27.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    You all keep inserting extra stuff. I have no idea why. All you need is:

    {blockquote}TEST OF BLOCKQUOTE{/blockquote}

    but subsititute { with < and } with > and you get:

    TEST OF BLOCKQUOTE

    I have no idea why you are throwing in all sorts of /p and other crap in there.

  28. 28.

    Scott H

    October 2, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    I prefer hand-coding.

    QUIT FUCKING HITTING RETURN AFTER YOUR BLOCKQUOTE OPENING TAG

    If John Cole is driven to the f-bomb, thing are truly
    well coming together.

    Edit: The ‘submit’ button is inserting the crap, btw.

    Edit 2: Yep, When I hit ‘submit’ leading spaces are being
    inserted to the cited text.

  29. 29.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Also, are we not Communists anymore? I didn’t get the memo! Why
    didn’t anyone tell me to take off my commie hat?

  30. 30.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    I give up. It works every time for me doing exactly what I have said. I have no idea why it is not working for you all and hopefully Stacy can figure it out.

  31. 31.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    NO RETURN

  32. 32.

    Patrick Lightbody

    October 2, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Testing two links… Ow My Balls! and
    Trophy
    Fail

  33. 33.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    I fail. I hand in my hat. Yes, Mr. Cole. It appears I am that
    stupid. (weeps)

  34. 34.

    NeeMoh

    October 2, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    I suggest that different contributor’s posts be in different fonts,
    so it’s easy to tell who wrote immediately without looking for the
    author’s name.

  35. 35.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    If John Cole is driven to the f-bomb, thing are truly well coming together.

    I will be drinking soon.

  36. 36.

    John Harrold

    October 2, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    John, In my comment above WP inserted returns after the words
    ‘get’, ‘of’, and ‘of’. I didn’t put those carriage returns there
    and it looked fine int he preview. I didn’t put any returns in this
    post either.

  37. 37.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    “I have no idea why you are throwing in all sorts of /p and other
    crap in there.” I was told to do so on another thread! They made
    me!

  38. 38.

    Eric

    October 2, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Look, I’m quoting!

    The block. It quotes. Or is it an illusion?

  39. 39.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    I will be drinking soon.

    Well done, team.

  40. 40.

    AkaDad

    October 2, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    For christ sakes, are you people drinking?

    No, but I’m preparing for the debate. +16

  41. 41.

    xyzzy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    heh indeedy.

    Seems to work perfectly well to me…

  42. 42.

    Thomas

    October 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    I like the look of the new site, and I’m used to using my own tags
    for html formatting, so… Win.

    Here’s how you blockquote

    Looks fine in the preview. But not in the post. Sorry
    John, but there’s something wrong. On the “edit comment,” there
    seem to be random hard returns, as well as original HRs missing.

  43. 43.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    Ok. Pretty clearly this is not user error.

  44. 44.

    xyzzy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    ….or not.

  45. 45.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    Testing strike Causing more problems.

  46. 46.

    comrade chopper

    October 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    I give up. It works every time for me doing exactly what I have
    said.

    so let’s see… edit: even better. so now the text
    quoted shows up, after the blockquote.

  47. 47.

    Scrutinizer

    October 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    I typed “ltblockquotegt” then closed the quote with

    lt/blockquotegt. What I see when I view page source is
    blockquote/blockquote, then what I typed. FF3, Vista.

  48. 48.

    Davebo

    October 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    Testing 123

    I Are Emphasized! I are Italicized
    You are FAIL!

  49. 49.

    Kevin

    October 2, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    wtf?

    “I have no idea why you are throwing in all sorts of /p and other
    crap in there.” I was told to do so on another thread! They made
    me!

    Let me try this again. I give up too.

  50. 50.

    John Cole

    October 2, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    And I apologize for dropping f-bombs and calling you all stupid. Even though I really meant it, it was rude.

  51. 51.

    Eric

    October 2, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    So this is what a Palin Presidency would look like. Interesting.

  52. 52.

    srv

    October 2, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    Wasabi greasemonkey magicians or somebody – can we add back in a
    horizontal scroller and widen the comments column? Unless I switch
    to a 21 inch monitor, the left + right columns = 50% and the
    comment number takes up 25% of what’s left… Leaving a little over
    a third for the comments. Not practicable for those with a browser
    up and multiple applications on a laptop. Other than that, I like
    it.

  53. 53.

    comrade chopper

    October 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    i think the server has become self-aware and went back and read all
    the posts on this blog.

  54. 54.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Trying this one more time.

    The preview and all logically thought says I have done
    this correctly. Now I hit submit…. EDIT: The preview is a lie. I
    can’t handle this kind of stress…

  55. 55.

    AkaDad

    October 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    I followed the instructions and I still fail.

  56. 56.

    Nathan R

    October 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Yeah, I’m just gonna delete this whole comment, since it’s pretty
    clear that the content’s been covered already.

  57. 57.

    GeneJockey

    October 2, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    How the hell do you break comments into paragraphs?

  58. 58.

    4tehlulz

    October 2, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Testing my favorite tag again. This uses a strike
    tag.
    This uses a delete tag.

  59. 59.

    Shinobi

    October 2, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    ….. Edited to remove my own stupidity. I like this editing
    function a lot!

  60. 60.

    Comrade Bey

    October 2, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    I will be drinking soon.

    So, we’re back to normal then? (The above block quote
    was created without spaces or returns by the Comrade Bey.)

  61. 61.

    srv

    October 2, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Oh, you have a horizontal scroller at the bottom of the page here
    (!), bit it isn’t attached to the browser pane, it’s inside of
    it… Crazy. At least on Opera and Firefox…

  62. 62.

    Davebo

    October 2, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    Programming since 1984 but I can’t make blockquote work. Epic Fail
    am I… And yes, it does work in preview. But that’s….. OK….

  63. 63.

    Cain

    October 2, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    John obviously is not well suited to computer support. We can thank
    our lucky stars that we don’t call up and get him on the other
    line. ha. Now I want to test blockquote.

    This is a single line of test. No returns have been pushed

    Works well in preview.. now..hit the submit. I have
    re-edited and had to remove the CRs in the text. Lame. cain

  64. 64.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    [blockquote]I followed the instructions and I still
    fail.[/blockquote] Story of my life. (I’m just gonna do my
    blockquoting like this from now on.)

  65. 65.

    Comrade The Moar You Know

    October 2, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    QUIT FUCKING HITTING RETURN AFTER YOUR BLOCKQUOTE OPENING TAG.
    DID YOU SEE ANY SPACE IN THE PICTURES ABOVE?

     

    I will be drinking soon.

      This is why I keep coming back here.
    Interesting. The software really is inserting carriage returns on
    its own.

  66. 66.

    john b

    October 2, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    let’s see if i can blockquote:

    stuff someone else said

    strong words someone else said.

    confirming that you can’t use multiple carriage returns

    and maybe an image for fun: (exclamation test):
    !http://tijiuanahitsquad.com/pics/panda.jpg! (html test):

    Who is driving? Oh my God, Bear is driving! How can that be?

    edit: and just to confirm, I did not put carriage
    returns in that first blockquote. those were kindly inserted by the
    site after i pressed submit.

  67. 67.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    ALL HAIL FAIL!

  68. 68.

    Montysano (All Hail Marx &amp; Lennon)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Testing blockquote

    Testing paragraph

    testing paragraph again

    Testing link

    testing paragraph again

    My computer password here at work is “HTML”, so I feel safe in
    saying “it ain’t working”.

  69. 69.

    Thomas

    October 2, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    No work.

    TestWithNoCarriageReturnsOrSpaces

    Still looks fine in preview

  70. 70.

    Steve V

    October 2, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    Could you please put up a poll for us to vote on whether to keep
    the mobile version? :)

  71. 71.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    October 2, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Now I’m going

    to try it in the dreaded IE7

    I hope it’s not a browser problem. Hmmm.I

  72. 72.

    JGabriel

    October 2, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    John Cole, I know you addressed this in an earlier post, but I have
    to add my voice to the bad font brigade. The new font renders
    weird, with uneven kerning – for instance, in “financial” the ‘i’
    is much closer to the ‘c’, rather than being centered between the
    ‘c’ and the ‘a’ – and some of the letters look blotchy, for
    instance, the peak in the middle of the ‘w’ looks bold compared to
    the rest of the letter. .

  73. 73.

    AkaDad

    October 2, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    @Eric: I Lol’d. The quote thing
    doesn’t work like I thought it would.

  74. 74.

    4tehlulz

    October 2, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    The most frustrating part is everything looking fine in Preview but
    not when it actually posts.

  75. 75.

    JL

    October 2, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    It is so nice not to be greeted by word press error Thank’s John.

  76. 76.

    JGabriel

    October 2, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    What happened to the paragraph breaks? Oh, fercrissakses, I give
    up. .

  77. 77.

    D. Mason

    October 2, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    This is a test

    This is only a test.

    (edit) I used the blockquote syntax as described and got the
    above results, it seems the text is being re-formatted to include
    a space after the blockquote tag and again after the quoted text,
    I hope this helps.

  78. 78.

    Comrade The Moar You Know

    October 2, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    testing of “strike” works in preview

  79. 79.

    srv

    October 2, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    In IE, you have a vertical scroller inside the pane that’s not
    visible in Opera or Firefox. Never seen anything like that. So get
    rid of these embedded scrollers and let the browser do it.

  80. 80.

    Stacy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Yet another blockquote test.

  81. 81.

    HeartlandLiberal

    October 2, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    In the ‘Thar She Blows…3.0’ post, in the comments, using FireFox
    3.0.3 latest, noscript but trusting the site, at comment 156 and
    below the screen pages disappears completely into a black hole, the
    rest of the page rendered from there down is solid black from side
    to side to the end of the page.

  82. 82.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    BEST. THREAD. EVER.

  83. 83.

    Stacy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    @HeartlandLiberal: Yes, we’re aware of that and working on a fix.

  84. 84.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    How you did that, Stacy?

  85. 85.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    block quote with “p”s

    and without

  86. 86.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    testing testing

    ? Oh, fuck it. This is not my job.

  87. 87.

    Comrade Bey

    October 2, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    @Stacy: Now you’re just showing off
    …..

    blockquote fail

  88. 88.

    Comrade Dreggas

    October 2, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Test

  89. 89.

    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака

    October 2, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Let’s see: McCain is suffering
    from Alzheimer’s.

    This bill is putting us on the brink of economic disaster. Also,
    I voted against the Medicare prescription drug program.

  90. 90.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    Typical. The new site only costs $800, but it’s an extra $100 if
    you want blockquoting. Should we get a fundraiser going? Any other
    hidden costs, Cole?

  91. 91.

    Stacy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    @Billy K(hrushchev): I think it has to do with John and I being logged in as admins. Still poking at it…

  92. 92.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    October 2, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    I like the fonts, John. JGabriel is just a whiner. :)

  93. 93.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Everytime I post, I’m sent to this error page (but the post comes
    through):

    Error 403 We’re sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for
    /?p=11572#comment-1054728 on this server. You do not have
    permission to access this server. Your technical support key is:
    62d2-9a34-dfd9-b1ad You can use this key to fix this problem
    yourself. If you are unable to fix the problem yourself, please
    contact jgriffincole at gmail.com and be sure to provide the
    technical support key shown above.

  94. 94.

    Comrade The Moar You Know

    October 2, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    failboat

    John Cole, I know you addressed this in an earlier post, but I
    haveto add my voice to the bad font brigade. The new font renders
    weird, with uneven kerning – for instance, in “financial” the ‘i’
    is much closer to the ‘c’, rather than being centered between the
    ‘c’ and the ‘a’ – and some of the letters look blotchy, for
    instance, the peak in the middle of the ‘w’ looks bold compared
    to the rest of the letter. .

    Not in my browser (Opera 9.52) or in IE7. Try another
    screen resolution.

  95. 95.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    @Comrade Scrutinizer: I agree; fonts
    are fine. Whiners zip it.

  96. 96.

    Stacy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    Another blockquote test.

  97. 97.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    October 2, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    John, go ahead and start drinking now. I’m already ahead of you.

    Data point #1: John, as King Sultan Supreme User, seems to get to
    use all the comment area width, while most of us plebes get
    wrapped against our will about 2/3 of the way across. What’s up
    with that?

    Data point #2: In teaching, we don’t call it “user error”. That
    hurts people’s feelings and your end of day assessment scores go
    down. What we do is walk over to their chair, sigh, and say,
    “Gosh, it’s that PEBKAC problem again. Let me help you fix it.”

    (PEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair).

  98. 98.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    @Comrade The Moar You Know:
    LRN/2/BLOCKQUOTE

  99. 99.

    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака

    October 2, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Wow, that’s fucked. I can’t fix it in edit, either.

  100. 100.

    greynoldsct00

    October 2, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    I’m not going to even try to quote something, I’m only going to say
    that John dropping f-bombs and thinking we’re nuts is all part of
    the charm of BJ and it’s why we hang out here and take it. I like
    the new site, the fine tuning will take a few days.

  101. 101.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    October 2, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Stacy is cheating.

    Cheating, I tell you.

    It doesn’t bother me so much that it doesn’t work,
    it’s that Preview shows me it does. For some reason, that really
    annoys the shit out of me. I do like the upgrade, John. This will
    rock when the kinks get worked out.

  102. 102.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Well at least there’s still some barrier to entry for posting; for
    awhile there I was starting to miss the WP error messages.

  103. 103.

    cleek

    October 2, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    i shall quote myself

    i shall quote myself quoting myself

    i shall quote myself

    amazing

    truly

  104. 104.

    Michael D.

    October 2, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Blockquotes appear to work for me

  105. 105.

    Comrade jnfr

    October 2, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    I told you in the last thread that something was inserting hard
    returns, thus causing comment lines to wrap funny.

    Now what I am seeing is that some comments have the hard returns
    and some wrap normally. I do not know why, but it could be
    related to the problems with blockquote.

    Trying some P and BR tags. Let’s see how this does.

  106. 106.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    October 2, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Stacy is Queen Sultan Supreme User, so she gets the nice stuff.
    What are you, some kind of commie?

  107. 107.

    Nick

    October 2, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Testing, testing, 1,2,3

    Let’s see if I fail. Confirmed that. I fail.

  108. 108.

    RSA

    October 2, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Okay, it’s fucked. Blockquote and img tags not working for me.

  109. 109.

    Comrade jnfr

    October 2, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Well I got some line spaces at least, but still hard returns at the
    wrap points. Very odd. My WP installation doesn’t do this.

  110. 110.

    D. Mason

    October 2, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    John Cole, I know you addressed this in an earlier post, but I
    haveto add my voice to the bad font brigade. The new font renders
    weird, with uneven kerning – for instance, in “financial” the ‘i’
    is much closer to the ‘c’, rather than being centered between the
    ‘c’ and the ‘a’ – and some of the letters look blotchy, for
    instance, the peak in the middle of the ‘w’ looks bold compared
    to the rest of the letter. .

    Wow you notice too much shit.

  111. 111.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Obama just released an iPhone app. Not gonna lie. I yipped a little
    in excitement. Clearly BJ needs an iPhone app to make my geek-life
    complete.

  112. 112.

    bago

    October 2, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Ah, cmon. F-bombs are a vital tool against the eaasily offended!

  113. 113.

    Nick

    October 2, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Let’s try this again:

    Repeat test

    I fail, again.

  114. 114.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    October 2, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    And Michael is the Jack of Diamonds. Rank hath its privileges.
    We’re plebes. We’re fucked. Get used to it ( at least until Stacy
    beats the bug into submission, which she will by the time I get
    back here, I bet).

  115. 115.

    Comrade The Moar You Know

    October 2, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    “And I apologize for dropping f-bombs and calling you all stupid.
    Even though I really meant it, it was rude.”

    This is the best “apology” ever.

  116. 116.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Stacy, when you’re done fixing blockquotes, can I have a pony?

  117. 117.

    Товарищ НеинтереснаяСобака

    October 2, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    Yeeooww! I just turned off font smoothing to see what you people
    were complaining about, and WOW!. That is one ugly font. It looks
    just about perfect with ClearType on, though, so I’m not
    complaining.

  118. 118.

    Test Monkey

    October 2, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Do monkeys shit in the woods?

    You bet your ass they do and they’re happy to do it, too.

  119. 119.

    cleek

    October 2, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    wow. that last post of mine was supposed to be a simple blockquote
    inside another blockqoute. but WP totally hosed it.

  120. 120.

    cleek

    October 2, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    i like the font.

  121. 121.

    Scott H

    October 2, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    I am impressed that John Cole has a base who are more than happy,
    actually completely enthusiastic and overjoyed, to keep banging at
    this thing until his host and designer can get the bugs worked out.
    I am into the merlot +1. Huzzah.

  122. 122.

    Stacy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Not even going to talk to someone who actually brings up KERNING as it relates to website rendering.

    Because it doesn’t.

  123. 123.

    pb

    October 2, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Woo fixed!

    woot woot

  124. 124.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    October 2, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    Hmm. If I can’t blockquote, can I use it as a rule? ?

    I’m about to
    reach the adult magazine black screen of opacity. Is that going to
    pop up here soon?

  125. 125.

    JGabriel

    October 2, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    The Moar You Know:

    Not in my browser (Opera 9.52)

    Interestingly enough, I’m also using Opera
    9.52.
    …
    Perhaps there’s a font I’m missing and the system is replacing
    it with something fugly. Can anyone tell me in which font text
    should be rendering?
    …
    D.Mason:

    Wow you notice too much shit.

    Yeah, yeah, fuck you too.

  126. 126.

    The Other Steve

    October 2, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    HURRAH! The Page down keys work again!

    Yeeooww! I just turned off font smoothing to see what you people were complaining about, and WOW!. That is one ugly font. It looks just about perfect with ClearType on, though, so I’m not complaining.

    You should see it from my home in Alaska!

  127. 127.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Quoting without hard breaks:

    We had to get rid of the comment buttons in the comments because that addon just sucked. In place of buttons is a list of things you can do. For example, if you want to block quote something, it should look like this while you are writing it:

    And with:

    We had to get rid of the comment buttons in the comments because that addon just sucked. In place of buttons is a list of things you can do. For example, if you want to block quote something, it should look like this while you are writing it:

  128. 128.

    AkaDad

    October 2, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    …………………………………………………………………………………………

    Stacy, when you’re done fixing blockquotes, can I have a pony?
    …………………………………………………………………………………………

    That’s pretty fucking insensitive. For five and a half years, John McCain couldn’t have a pony.

    Yes, I just made my own blockquote, bitchez.

  129. 129.

    Roonieroo

    October 2, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    I’m almost scared to try this

    Please be in the box

  130. 130.

    Stacy

    October 2, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Yet again with the blockquote testing.

  131. 131.

    FearItself

    October 2, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    I only got through the first thirty or so posts before I was overcome by the suspicion that the inability to do blockquotes by Balloon Juice commenters is somehow related to the inability to do pass blocking by the Steelers’ offensive line.

    But maybe its just a concidence.

    Did it work? YES! No sack on this snap! Wooohooo!

    Ouch. I think I broke my shoulder cheering.

  132. 132.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    This Obama iPhone app uses the GPS to locate you and suggest nearby Obama campaign events.

    Nifty.

    It also appears to allow you access to their caller database to call voters.

    Uber-Nifty.

  133. 133.

    The Other Steve

    October 2, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Weird. The carriage returns hork up the blockquote.

    I hate blockquotes

  134. 134.

    Scott H

    October 2, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    The font looks good to me. I am using the Safari browser with default encoding set to "Western (ISO Latin 1)" – whether that makes any difference or not.

  135. 135.

    Comrade Bey

    October 2, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    That’s pretty fucking insensitive. For five and a half years, John McCain couldn’t have a pony.

    Yes, I just made my own blockquote, bitchez.

    Nicely done, dad.

  136. 136.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    …………………………………………………………………………………………
    That’s pretty fucking insensitive. For five and a half years, John McCain couldn’t have a pony.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………

    Well, I’m an élite, and I need a pony for my terrorist arugula farm.

  137. 137.

    Roonieroo

    October 2, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Woohoo! It is in the box! I can blockquote and not get called names by John!

  138. 138.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    This Obama iPhone app uses the GPS to locate you and suggest nearby Obama campaign events.

    But will it give me hope?

  139. 139.

    Annette

    October 2, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Yet another test

    And another

    You know

    the drill

  140. 140.

    Scrutinizer

    October 2, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    One last time, then lunch.

    That better be something Stacy did.

  141. 141.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    I think the Obama App just locked up my iPhone.
     

    Less than nifty.

  142. 142.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    October 2, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    Does anyone here know how to design a Firefox widget that will insert the tags easily? I used to have one for Kos, which I plan to reinstall on this computer eventually, but the tags are different here.

    Just wondering.

  143. 143.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    I am impressed that John Cole has a base who are more than happy,
    actually completely enthusiastic and overjoyed, to keep banging at
    this thing until his host and designer can get the bugs worked out.

    Well, when you’re rooting for the Dems, you do become habituated to a whole lot of fail, so this is just like warm exercises for reading about what Congress’ latest scheme will be for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory…

  144. 144.

    Comrade The Moar You Know

    October 2, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    JGabriel: I don’t know what font this is supposed to be. You may want to follow a suggestion above and turn on ClearType if you haven’t already. Also, what OS are you running? I get weird rendering issues in Linux sometimes, especially with Opera.

  145. 145.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    "But will it give me hope?"
     
    No. But it is beautifully rendered.

  146. 146.

    Blue Neponset

    October 2, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    "Harumph."

    Why are average, pro-button Americans being ignored? This html stuff is elitist.

  147. 147.

    Nick

    October 2, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    @Scott H:

    I am impressed that John Cole has a base who are more than happy,
    actually completely enthusiastic and overjoyed, to keep banging at
    this thing until his host and designer can get the bugs worked out.
    I am into the merlot +1. Huzzah.

    Even if he only insults us and then gives us a half-hearted apology when he figures out it isn’t our fault. It is pretty impressive we’re still here.

    At work -1. I’ll need alcohol to make up for the debt…

  148. 148.

    Dennis - SGMM

    October 2, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Seems like just a few days ago BJ would be randomly non compos mentis, leading to much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Now we’re hearing about kerning.

    I’m beginning to believe that "progress" actually means "the granularity of the bitching has increased significantly."

  149. 149.

    Roonieroo

    October 2, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Does anybody else get a HTTP Error 403 page whenever they post comments? My comment posts but I have to reopen Balloon-Juice.

    The error I get is:

    Error 403
    We’re sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for /?p=11572#comment-1054795 on this server.

    You do not have permission to access this server.

    Your technical support key is: 1899-cbf3-dfd9-b1ad

    You can use this key to fix this problem yourself.

    If you are unable to fix the problem yourself, please contact jgriffincole at gmail.com and be sure to provide the technical support key shown above.

  150. 150.

    Scott H

    October 2, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Safari keeps giving me a "Slow Script" alert if this means anything to anybody.

  151. 151.

    Michael D.

    October 2, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    Test

    Test2

    Test3

    Test4

  152. 152.

    Kevin

    October 2, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    I think the Obama App just locked up my iPhone.Less than nifty.

    I was going to try that out, but now you have scared me off.

  153. 153.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Safari keeps giving me a "Slow Script" alert if this means anything to anybody.

    It means Michael Bay is never going to option your boring screenplay.

  154. 154.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    October 2, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    No stickiness in Firefox 3 – just saying…

  155. 155.

    Michael D.

    October 2, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    What happens if I accidentally leave a tag open?

  156. 156.

    Comrade Bey

    October 2, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Again with the un-privileged testing

    GET OUT!

    That felt good. For some reason, I suddenly want a cigarette…..

  157. 157.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    It didn’t actually lock up my iPhone, it just took a long time to load a page. It’s working smooth now. It’s actually the prettiest iPhone app I’ve ever seen. I could see it being very useful for canvassers.
     
    Heh. It sorts your contacts by battleground states so that you can call them to be sure they’re registered to vote. Brilliant.

  158. 158.

    AkaDad

    October 2, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    ……………………………………………………………………………………..

    Nicely done, dad.
    ………………………………………………………………………………………

    Thanks, comrade.

  159. 159.

    Marshall

    October 2, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    The design is fine, but the progressive shading at the top of the page as it loads looks very similar to the progressive shading beginning at the top that signifies a Mac OS X kernel panic. Twice now I have loaded BJ and had a moment of kernel panic panic. Some, of course, might regard this as a feature.

  160. 160.

    jake

    October 2, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    This is the funniest post evar. John reminds me of the dad on a cross country trip. The kids are either fighting and crying or making fart noises and laughing like helium sucking hyenas. Though he tries to concentrate on the road he keeps flipping out because they Won’t. Shut. Up.

  161. 161.

    JGabriel

    October 2, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    The Moar You Know:

    You may want to follow a suggestion above and turn on ClearType if you haven’t already. Also, what OS are you running?

    XP.

    I may have to turn on Clear Type, though I’ve gone w/o it for 6 years and really hate to turn it on now. It makes most fonts look blurry, to me anyway.

    Maybe Annette or Stacy (hint hint) can chime in with what the default font is supposed to be?

    .

  162. 162.

    cleek

    October 2, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    i repeat myself when under stress

    i repeat myself when under stress

    i repeat myself when under stress

    i repeat myself when under stress

    i repeat myself when under stress

    i repeat

    the more i look at it, the more i like it.

    i do think it’s good.

    i wish you were here to see it.

  163. 163.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Dennis – SGMM
    I’m beginning to believe that "progress" actually means "the granularity of the bitching has increased significantly."

    WIN!

  164. 164.

    cleek

    October 2, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    oof. and there’s the censor bar!

  165. 165.

    Michael D.

    October 2, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Stacy:

    A couple of things I am noticing.

    1. I can’t use the Page Up/Down keys to scroll through the site. I can’t use the arrow keys either.

    2. Whenever I leave a comment, it takes me to an error page – although the comment does post.

    3. Whenever I come to the site or refresh, it seems to lock up for about 15 seconds and I can’t do anything.

    I am using IE 6.0.2900

  166. 166.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Twice now I have loaded BJ and had a moment of kernel panic panic. Some, of course, might regard this as a feature.

    I noticed that, as well. And yes, we Mac élitists even have delightful BSODs. (I got one yesterday at work – first one in a couple years.)

  167. 167.

    jake

    October 2, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Does anybody else get a HTTP Error 403 page whenever they post comments? My comment posts but I have to reopen Balloon-Juice.

    Yep, every time. But if you hit Back your post is there. Allegedly it is because the spam filter caught malicious crap from your IP address. I think John put it in there to remind us he can bring back WPE if we act up.

  168. 168.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    @Roonieroo-October 2nd, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Yep, getting Error 403 evertyime (using IE 6.0); emailed it up the chain.

  169. 169.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    I am using IE 6.0.2900

    There’s your problem.

  170. 170.

    Polish the Guillotines

    October 2, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    The frackin’ Black Wall of Censorship is still in full effect with FireFox (2.x).

    It seems to kick in just after comment #162 on any thread that runs longer than 162 comments.

    Please, please Annette & Stacy: Save me from having to use IE7! I beg of you!

  171. 171.

    AkaDad

    October 2, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    With Firefox 3 the page goes black after 151 comments, but works in IE 7.

  172. 172.

    Comrade The Moar You Know

    October 2, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    JGabriel: ClearType’s "blurriness" is somewhat monitor-dependent, worse on some than others. Try it for testing purposes, you certainly don’t have to leave it on.

    You’ll be happy to know that when you are eventually forced to "upgrade" to Vista, Vista’s version of ClearType is much, much better.

    I’m probably the only person on the planet with a fully working, no problems whatsoever Vista install. I have dealt with enough Vista installations that didn’t work properly (or at all) to say that I could not in good conscience recommend it for anyone. But mine, for some weird reason, is awesome.

  173. 173.

    Kevin

    October 2, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    With Firefox 3 the page goes black after 151 comments, but works in IE 7.

    Also works with Google Chrome.

  174. 174.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    It’s been said earlier, but I shall second it.

    BEST. THREAD. EVER.

    I’m never going to get any work done at this rate.

  175. 175.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    Please, please Annette & Stacy: Save me from having to use IE7! I beg of you!

    Annette & Stacy….Annette & Stacy…. weren’t they the two keyboard players for Prince in the Purple Rain days?

  176. 176.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    I am using IE 6.0.2900

    There’s your problem.

    Meh, looks like I’m missing out on the Wall o’Censorship, so I’ll call it a push.

  177. 177.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    October 2, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    I’m now getting the

    dreaded black screen

    on FF3 after comment 162.

    Don’t make me use this piece of MS crap, Please!

  178. 178.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Also works with Google Chrome.

    Chrome & Safari = Webkit
    Internet Exploder = WTF MS BBQ?
    Firefox = Gecko

    Hmmmm…..

  179. 179.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    I have no black walls of death, FF v. 3.0.3 on a Mac running Leopard 10.5.5

  180. 180.

    AkaDad

    October 2, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    The paig okazunally freezes up in IE 7 and I have no spel chek.

  181. 181.

    Comrade The Moar You Know

    October 2, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    No prono censorship in Opera.

  182. 182.

    Polish the Guillotines

    October 2, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    "ClearType’s "blurriness" is somewhat monitor-dependent, worse on some than others. Try it for testing purposes, you certainly don’t have to leave it on. "

    Try using the ClearType tuner. You can do it online or download and install it. If you do it online, you’ll need to use IE.

  183. 183.

    JGabriel

    October 2, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Moar: Yep, Clear Type makes the site look much better, readable even – except for the blurriness/blotchiness that’s inherent to Clear Type itself.

    Frankly, it’s pretty annoying that one has to turn on Clear Type for the page to render correctly.

    John Cole, please change the font to something that renders correctly without requiring Clear Type. Please? That really shouldn’t be a requirement.

    Anyway, glad to hear Vista is working out for you, Moar. I’ll probably switch to Linux rather than do the forced upgrade, but we’ll see.

    .

  184. 184.

    TheFountainHead

    October 2, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Man, I hope I get to blockquote again by tonight, I suspect there will be some funny-ass quotes to mock this evening.

  185. 185.

    cyntax

    October 2, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    AkaDadThe paig okazunally freezes up in IE 7 and I have no spel chek.

    Yeah you say it’s lack of spell check but that looks a lot like being +4/5.

    I’m not saying, I’m just saying.

    If it walks like a duck…

  186. 186.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Man, I hope I get to blockquote again by tonight, I suspect there will be some funny-ass quotes to mock this evening.

    Blockquoting is fun.

  187. 187.

    jake

    October 2, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Why does John Cole hate fire and foxes?

  188. 188.

    JGabriel

    October 2, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Polish the Guillotines:

    Try using the Clear Type tuner.

    Thanks, I’ll try that. But I still object to throwing away processor cycles on Clear Type.

    Irritating, that is.

    .

  189. 189.

    greynoldsct00

    October 2, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    blockquotetest

  190. 190.

    greynoldsct00

    October 2, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    I block quoted

    /snoopy dance

  191. 191.

    Marked Hoosier

    October 2, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    This thread is full of win. :D

  192. 192.

    greynoldsct00

    October 2, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Just cause I can…

  193. 193.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Wait . . . be still my beating heart . . .

    I can has blockquotes?

    Can our childrens learn?

  194. 194.

    SGEW

    October 2, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Our childrens can learn!

    I is in a box! I special!

    Yay!

    Now Mr. Cole maybe not yell at me! Or skull fuck a kitten!

  195. 195.

    Billy K(hrushchev)

    October 2, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Now Mr. Cole maybe not yell at me! Or skull fuck a kitten!

    Don’t get your hopes up…

  196. 196.

    greynoldsct00

    October 2, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    Now I just have to figure out the posting of the links thing…

  197. 197.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    October 2, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    No prono censorship in Opera.

    Another feature.

  198. 198.

    Polish the Guillotines

    October 2, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Thanks, I’ll try that. But I still object to throwing away processor cycles on Clear Type.

    Yet you’re 188 comments into a thread about web design. Isn’t that throwing away life cycles? Why do hate America?

  199. 199.

    tripletee (formerly tBone)

    October 2, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    @JGabriel: The default comments text is Lucida Sans. Yes, it looks like ass without Cleartype enabled. Sack up and deal with it.

    @The FountainHead: the Obama iPhone app is really slick (no lockups for me thus far). I don’t know who handles the campaign’s web presence, but they’re pretty amazing. Even though they didn’t invent the Blackberry.

    Annette & Stacy….Annette & Stacy…. weren’t they the two keyboard players for Prince in the Purple Rain days?

    Fun fact: Wendy & Lisa currently do the music for "Heroes."

  200. 200.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    October 2, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Now I’m going to be late for work, but this thread was so worth it. I’ll miss the debate, but can’t wait to get home to see what you crazies have to say about it, blockquotes or not.

  201. 201.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    October 2, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    The B-J experience. Come for the snark, stay for the abuse.

    The story of my life.

  202. 202.

    Jen R

    October 2, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    Oh my God, this thread is making my day.

    I took a drink just before reading #51 and almost choked to death.

  203. 203.

    Xanthippas

    October 2, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    This is possibly one of the greatest threads in the history of Balloon Juice (or at least since I’ve been coming around. I don’t even know how to describe it…it’s like a sitcom where the kids pick on the beloved uncle with a legendarily short fuse, who then flies off the handle to the amusement of the family and audience alike.

  204. 204.

    Xanthippas

    October 2, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Never mind, Jake at 160 has a better analogy. Also, I just fucked up a blockquote in a newer thread, so I’m really glad I wasn’t around to test this earlier this afternoon.

  205. 205.

    littlesky

    October 2, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    This is possibly one of the greatest threads in the history of Balloon Juice (or at least since I’ve been coming around. I don’t even know how to describe it…

    preview says it’s all good, but I hear preview is a damn liar…

    edit: it eated my picture. oh well…

  206. 206.

    MelodyMaker

    October 2, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    Whoah! this blinking cursor indicator goes to China!
    (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20061201 Firefox/2.0.0.16 (Ubuntu-feisty))
    My real comment was going to be about readability. At work I keep a reely skinny little browser box so the prying eyes… That’s been working for me with Digby and WaMo and even TPM, but reading BJ posts is now a few words per line. Now I go back and read some comments.

  207. 207.

    MelodyMaker

    October 2, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    you could have just moved into the oldedit: somthing took a drink
    ouche’

  208. 208.

    MelodyMaker

    October 2, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    benen place.

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