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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2008 / The Pattern Continues

The Pattern Continues

by John Cole|  October 9, 20084:17 pm| 66 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008, Assholes, Did You Know John McCain Was A POW?

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John McCain, in his interview with Charlie Gibson, hiding behind the words of yet another woman in order to advance his smears:

MCCAIN: Again, two things I’ve never been accused of lacking. And one is passion, and the other is courage. I mean, I can accept a lot of the other criticisms. It didn’t come up in the flow of the conversation. But it did come up, and I pointed out that he asked for $3 million for an overhead projector at a planetarium in his hometown of Chicago.

And coincidentally the guy who was the chairman of that organization pledged to raise $200,000 for his campaign. His record is replete of requests for pork barrel, unnecessary, wasteful spending. And I’ll let the American people make a judgment there.

GIBSON: Do you think the relationship with Ayers is a critical issue in this campaign or factor in this campaign?

MCCAIN: I think it’s a factor about Sen. Obama’s candor and truthfulness with the American people. That’s what I think it’s about. As I say, I don’t care about Mr. Ayers who on Sept. 11, 2001 said he wished he’d have bombed more. I don’t care about that. I care about him being truthful about his relationship with him. And Americans will care.

GIBSON: And you’re comfortable that this should be a focus in the last days of the campaign?

MCCAIN: I think it’s something that needs to be examined. Sen. Clinton said it should be examined during their primary and never was.

Yeah. It is the Cindy, Sarah, and Hillary show over at McCain HQ. A real profile in political courage, this McCain fellow.

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  1. 1.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    October 9, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Well, of course he is doing this, if he focuses on the economy he’s going to lose.

    McCain has nothing but anger and smears to help him win.

  2. 2.

    Ripley

    October 9, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    I think we should ask aboiut McCain’s relationship with Vicki Iseman. Has he been honest about it? Americans will care.

  3. 3.

    The Moar You Know

    October 9, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Boy, he’s still hoping those Clinton voters are gonna pull his ass out of the fire, isn’t he?

  4. 4.

    Ian

    October 9, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    I don’t care about Mr. Ayers who on Sept. 11, 2001 said he wished he’d have bombed more. I don’t care about that.

    Clearly.

  5. 5.

    jakester

    October 9, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    This matters little, but Bill Ayers said the thing about wishing he’d done more to stop the Vietnam War on September 10, 2001. Not September 11.

    And also, OHMYGODJOHNMCCAINISADOUCHE!

  6. 6.

    boonagain

    October 9, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    If anyone had told me last Spring that I would despise McCain more than Bush or that McCain would have run a more contemptible campaign than Rove, I would not have believed it.

    I really fear for the safety of Obama with the way Johnny Drama and Bible Spice are ramping up the Yahoos.

    Add terrorist and vote fraud accusations to this toxic mess and nothing good can come out of this.

  7. 7.

    Brian J

    October 9, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Wow, another lie from Sen. McCain. As TPM points out, McCain is misrepresenting his what Clinton said:

    McCain, incidentally, appears to be misrepresenting what Hillary said about Ayers during the primary in order to legitimize his smear. McCain said today that Hillary had asserted that Ayers "should" come up.

    While Hillary did point to Ayers as something Obama might have to deal with in a general election, to the best of our knowledge, Hillary only said that Republicans would bring it up, and lamented that fact.

    I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for a correction from the McCain campaign.

    Oh, by the way, here’s a picture of that overhead projector that Sen. Obama asked for.

  8. 8.

    ThymeZone

    October 9, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Frost: Why did you (in your early campaign for the House seat in California) tell voters that your opponent was a communist?

    Nixon: Well, you have to win.
    ——–//

    McCain has learned from the master.

  9. 9.

    ThymeZone

    October 9, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Read it and weep, Republican assholes.

  10. 10.

    Comrade Dreggas

    October 9, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    What a WATB.

  11. 11.

    PaminBB

    October 9, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    John, don’t forget Nicole Wallace, who’s also out there slinging Ayers muck for the teevee cameras.

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    October 9, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Hillary hits back. From her spokesperson:

    As Hillary Clinton has criss-crossed the country for Barack Obama, she has said to anyone who will listen that we can’t trust John McCain and the Republicans to fix this economy and turn our country around. Funny, John McCain isn’t using those words.

    Is this a coordinated Democratic strategy to get John McCain to blow his top during the last debate? I certainly hope so.

    -dms

  13. 13.

    JasonF

    October 9, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    I know that pointing out that Senator McCain is lying is a bit like pointing out that water is wet, but Ayers did not say that he wished he had bombed more. He said that he doesn’t regret setting bombs, and that he wishes he had done more to stop the war. He also wrote a letter to the New York Times after the publication of the article saying that the author had taken his quotes out of context.

  14. 14.

    tammanycall

    October 9, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Hiding behind the skirts of better women than you yet again, eh Johnny?

    It’s funny how he thinks if HE doesn’t say it himself that means he’s still honorable when in reality it’s exactly the opposite. And wow, I never thought I’d hate a Republican more than Bush…

  15. 15.

    Zifnab

    October 9, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    This matters little, but Bill Ayers said the thing about wishing he’d done more to stop the Vietnam War on September 10, 2001. Not September 11.

    And if that doesn’t prove he and Barry Obama are the true masterminds behind 9/11, I honestly don’t know what does.

  16. 16.

    jibeaux

    October 9, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    John McCain didn’t have any skirts to hide behind when he was POW. He’s just making up for lost time.

  17. 17.

    cleek

    October 9, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    here’s an audio clip from McCain’s interview with Gibson.

  18. 18.

    kay

    October 9, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    I think Obama’s buying huge blocks of television time to lay out a detailed economic plan.

    Incidentally, this will be his second attempt to get some economic information out: he held a economic forum when he returned from the overseas trip, pre-meltdown. It was substantive stuff, sadly, the media were then focusing, I believe, on the Paris Hilton rebuttal.

    He won’t try that again. This time, he’s purchasing a forum.

    It’s just sad that that a candidate for President has to purchase media time to get actual information out.

    Considering that we have 24/7 "election coverage", and all.

  19. 19.

    mantis

    October 9, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Yeah. It is the Cindy, Sarah, and Hillary show over at McCain HQ. A real profile in political courage, this McCain fellow.

    Hmmm, should we just call him Charlie?

  20. 20.

    demkat620

    October 9, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    I just want these republican blowhards to tell me exactly what they have to be angry about. They wanted a war, they got it. They wanted billions in tax cuts for rich people, they got it. They wanted a president who talks like they do, they go it. They wanted a president who would shred the constitution, they got that too.

    After 8 years of getting everything they wanted, what do they have to be angry about?

  21. 21.

    Atanarjuat

    October 9, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Senator John McCain (soon to be President John McCain — get used to pronouncing that, BJ leftists) is simply conveying a valid concern that Senator Hillary Clinton had raised herself.

    It’s puzzling how this can be perceived as either cowardice or somehow hiding "behind the skirt" of a woman. The only thing that makes sense is that the growing Ayers scandal has hit perilously close to the mark, so Nobama’s rage-filled supporters are working round-the-clock to attack the credibility of the messenger, the honorable Senator John McCain, for the message itself is absolutely damning. The unrepentant domestic terrorist Ayers and Nobama worked hand-in-glove in the very bowels of the exceedingly corrupt Chicago Machine.

    Country First.

  22. 22.

    Paul L.

    October 9, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    I wonder if Charles Gibson was wearing his glasses halfway down his nose for this interview with Mccain.
    Charlie Gibson engages in verbal sex with Barack Obama

    His condescension, his arrogance, his looking over his glasses and down his nose at the interviewee and his smirks, all were missing. Instead, a smiling, jovial, warm, soft-spoken and eyeglass-less Gibson sat across a table from Obama and literally kissed his tail.

  23. 23.

    Singularity

    October 9, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Josh Marshall has an article up called "The Cowardice Issue" in which he argues that McCain was so rude to Obama at the debates (refusing to look at him, refusing to shake his hand) because he is afraid of him. This is evident because McCain is willing to make the most absurd and offensive comments about Obama to reporters and supporters, but is unwilling to do so when face-to-face at the debates. McCain is basically a paranoid coward.

    This made me think of Herman Wouk’s The Caine Mutiny. McCain is the spitting image of Captain Queeg, a marginal Navy officer who mutters to himself and is prone to fits of paranoid rage driven by his own doubts about his self-worth. I plan on referring to him as "Old Yellowstain McCain" from now on. Maybe we can get him to flip out and start accusing Obama of stealing strawberries at the next debate.

  24. 24.

    jibeaux

    October 9, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    I don’t like the new troll. He’s boring, despite putting "bowels" in the posts, and he never connects anything to Duke Lacrosse.

  25. 25.

    Jay in Oregon

    October 9, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    After 8 years of getting everything they wanted, what do they have to be angry about?

    That liberals exist?

  26. 26.

    The People's Glorious Pantload of Studliness

    October 9, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    @ boonagain:

    If anyone had told me last Spring that I would despise McCain more than Bush or that McCain would have run a more contemptible campaign than Rove, I would not have believed it.

    I’ve been saying for months that McCain is Evil Bush™.

    Bush is a know-nothing bumbler who fell prey to a crowd wishing to wage war for profit and as a matter of foreign policy; yes, their reasons were hideous and extremely misguided, and the execution has been an epic cockup fifty ways from Sunday, but at least there was a discernable methodology.

    McCain would seem to have no methodology. The degree of his nastiness and petulance overshadows anything Bush has displayed, and they would seem to be the fuel that drives his engine. And with his own Monica Goodling (you say "buzzsaw," I say "barracuda") running amock in the veep’s office — well, like the known laws of physics breakdown under certain extreme conditions, so my imagination breaks down in trying to picture what sort of calamaties would befall us under a McCain/Palin administration. Surely, they will make the last eight years look like the glory days.

  27. 27.

    jake 4 that 1

    October 9, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    What a sick, sad little man.

  28. 28.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    October 9, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    After 8 years of getting everything they wanted, what do they have to be angry about?

    That it wasn’t a permanent majority?

    That they are about to lose all that?

    That they will be called on the carpet for acting like petulant assholes for the last eight years?

  29. 29.

    Comrade Bey

    October 9, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    hand-in-glove in the very bowels

    Freud much?

  30. 30.

    Brian J

    October 9, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    I think Obama’s buying huge blocks of television time to lay out a detailed economic plan.

    If he’s doing it as if it were a presidential address, it might not be a bad idea. It’d give him control of the race even more than he has it now. There’s simply no way for McCain to do the same if it wants to fund operations in the swing states, so he’d have the floor to himself, and since Obama has an actual economic message as opposed to tirades about earmarks, it could resonate.

  31. 31.

    Cris v.3.1

    October 9, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    literally kissed his tail.

    Literally?

  32. 32.

    SamFromUtah

    October 9, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    @demkat620: After 8 years of getting everything they wanted, what do they have to be angry about?

    It doesn’t quite work like that, I don’t think. There’s no such thing as "everything they wanted". Their entire existence consists of wanting MORE and screaming about whatever scapegoat is supposedly keeping them from it.

  33. 33.

    The Moar You Know

    October 9, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    Atanarjuat

    Paul L.

    Fuck yeah, a twofer!

    Drop your "White Dicks on Black Chicks" DVDs, Paul L. You got some competition! Our new friend Atanarjuat is a troll worthy of the name. Study hard and do well in troll school and one day you might be as good.

  34. 34.

    Singularity

    October 9, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    soon to be President John McCain

    President of what? Not the United States, unless he turns things around in the next 48 hours. Maybe President of the Arabian Horse Association. I hear that qualifies you to run a government agency responsible for the safety of millions.

  35. 35.

    Brian J

    October 9, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Senator John McCain (soon to be President John McCain—get used to pronouncing that, BJ leftists) is simply conveying a valid concern that Senator Hillary Clinton had raised herself.

    It’s puzzling how this can be perceived as either cowardice or somehow hiding "behind the skirt" of a woman. The only thing that makes sense is that the growing Ayers scandal has hit perilously close to the mark, so Nobama’s rage-filled supporters are working round-the-clock to attack the credibility of the messenger, the honorable Senator John McCain, for the message itself is absolutely damning. The unrepentant domestic terrorist Ayers and Nobama worked hand-in-glove in the very bowels of the exceedingly corrupt Chicago Machine.

    Country First.

    If this isn’t a spoof, I want some of whatever it is you’re on.

  36. 36.

    Laura W

    October 9, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    This just in my spam filter. Very appropriate place for it. I wrote the person who sent it to me:

    Doris, I am voting for Obama. McCain/Palin are disgusting and dishonorable.
    I never watch Fox news, and never will.
    Please don’t forward me Republican propaganda. It’s racist bullshit.

    (That’ll learn her to spam me when I’m +1 strong one.)

    Subject: WATCH FOX NEWS THIS SUNDAY AT 9:PM EASTERN

    SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK
    OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM. HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS. HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA’S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc., HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES! HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA’S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE. THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE. HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~ SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM. HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN’S, WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!! WAKE UP AMERICA!! THIS IS SERIOUS,EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR, BUT IF YOU CAN, PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY. MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th. WE MUST NOT GIVE UP!!!! GOD BLESS!!

    Look online at Fox TV to verify this. It is true. The web site is ~ http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/index.html

  37. 37.

    Atanarjuat

    October 9, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    jibeaux said:

    I don’t like the new troll. He’s boring, despite putting "bowels" in the posts, and he never connects anything to Duke Lacrosse.

    Yes, I’m sure that to all of you Ayers-snuggling leftists, anything that doesn’t embarrass John McCain for the sake of boosting your cargo cult leader, Nobama, is oh-so-boring. A real snooze-fest.

    Meanwhile, the economic health of this country is getting closer to actual collapse, which McCain is unfairly tarred with. Then your Jim Jones-wannabe leader goes on to get a nice boost from everyone’s financial misfortune. Just like a vampire draining the life blood of its victim. Oh, yeah, how boring.

    How sickening, actually.

    Country First.

  38. 38.

    gbear

    October 9, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    After 8 years of getting everything they wanted, what do they have to be angry about?

    They wanted all your stuff too. That plus your future. Oh, and your kids too. You spoiler, you.

  39. 39.

    Brian J

    October 9, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Look online at Fox TV to verify this. It is true. The web site is ~ http://www.foxnews.com/hannitysamerica/index.html

    It’s nice to know that Hannity’s sterling journalistic practices will be on the job.

  40. 40.

    jibeaux

    October 9, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Vampires bore me, too.

  41. 41.

    Brian J

    October 9, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    Yes, I’m sure that to all of you Ayers-snuggling leftists

    I prefer Michael Moore or Rob Reiner for cuddling, thank you.

  42. 42.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    October 9, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK
    OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM.

    Sean Hannity is going to preach to the choir on FoxNews? I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you.

    I am not concerned, people who are voting for Obama are not filling their heads with Fox’s lies.

  43. 43.

    gbear

    October 9, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    ..hand-in-glove in the very bowels..

    Freud much?

    America Fist!

  44. 44.

    cleek

    October 9, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    which McCain is unfairly tarred with.

    wait’ll you see what we feather him with… talk about unfair!

  45. 45.

    DaveA

    October 9, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    This is fun.

  46. 46.

    gbear

    October 9, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    I think Obama’s buying huge blocks of television time to lay out a detailed economic plan.

    I hope that he brings charts and says something about ‘that giant sucking sound’.

  47. 47.

    jibeaux

    October 9, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    America Fist!

    Up to the bowels of Win.

    Remember, it was me that told you all about my brother discovering the anagram Anal Maniac John’s Ranch Dip.

    There are no coincidences.

  48. 48.

    cleek

    October 9, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    says something about ‘that giant sucking sound’…

    … coming from McCain’s dentures.

  49. 49.

    Josh Huaco

    October 9, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    worked hand-in-glove in the very bowels

    Stop that, you’re making the conservatives on this board all giggity.

  50. 50.

    That One - Cain

    October 9, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    I wonder if Charles Gibson was wearing his glasses halfway down his nose for this interview with Mccain.
    Charlie Gibson engages in verbal sex with Barack Obama

    Gibson is trying to turn you guys on. First the kinky librarian costume, and then the hot verbal sex with the black guy. Come on, you know it makes you hot.

    cain

  51. 51.

    That One - Cain

    October 9, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    wait’ll you see what we feather him with… talk about unfair!

    Pubic hairs?

    cain

  52. 52.

    Brian J

    October 9, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    I hope that he brings charts and says something about ‘that giant sucking sound’.

    Because you like retro-style entertainment?

  53. 53.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    October 9, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    This is fun.

    Awwww, John McCain and Charles Keating were in love, how cute!

  54. 54.

    Zuzu Petals

    October 9, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    @Ian:

    And that’s actually an untrue statement on McCain’s part. The interview with Ayers was published on September 11, 2001 but of course took place at an earlier date; in other words, contrary to McCain’s insinuations, the comment was not made in response to the Al Qaeda attacks.

    Of course he would have had to actually read the article to know that.

  55. 55.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    October 9, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Hillary Clinton is building a pretty good resume of public service and is certainly not to be trifled with when it comes to policy debate. Ask the soon-to-be next president Barkack Obama. She is brilliant. (I am not a big fan but she has earned my respect as a politician. She’s got game.)

    Sarah Palin is indeed W in a skirt: an incurious know nothing.

    Cindy McCain is a beer heiress whose only claim to notoriety is fucking a married man and being a drug addict.

    Tim Dickinson’s article at Rolling Stone was well timed. The real John McCain is a self-centered, reckless, pussy who does not deserve our respect.

    If being a Vet was a Get Out of Jail Free Card, Timothy McVeigh would still be alive.

  56. 56.

    Zuzu Petals

    October 9, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    refusing to shake his hand

    Actually, they did shake hands. We just didn’t see it because the camera was pointing at Brokaw … with them in the way of his teleprompter.

    Breitbart

  57. 57.

    gbear

    October 9, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Because you like retro-style entertainment?

    Everybody loved Ross Perot’s infomercials. Even if you hated his politics, they were fun to watch because he was so crazy.

    As far as being retro, I gave up on TV about 20 years ago. I still try to stay current with music in an old guy way, but most rap has to stay off my lawn (Blueprint and Blackilicious are welcome though).

  58. 58.

    Kilkee

    October 9, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    MCCAIN: Again, two things I’ve never been accused of lacking. And one is passion, and the other is courage.

    Really, John? Then you haven’t been paying attention lately, ’cause LOTS of people are calling you out as a cowardly prick for not having the balls to talk shit to Obama directly. Our beloved Comrade Cole, for example.

    Oh, yeah, and then there are those other POWs who don’t think you’re so hot, either.

  59. 59.

    Rick Taylor

    October 9, 2008 at 6:19 pm

    Frankly I’m stunned. I expected McCain would be the most difficult of the Republican nominees to beat. We don’t know what the others would have done, but it’s hard to imagine they could have been worse.

    What I don’t understand is why. He didn’t have to play it this way. He had the press practically in his pocket, all ready to give the benefit of the doubt, to credit him as the wise elder statesman. He could have just road on that. He didn’t have to make a fool of himself proposing to cancel the debate, and he could have picked an experienced vice president, and then taken the fatherly attitude, of yeah sure I like Obama, but in these times we need an experienced hand at the tiller, and the press would have given him cover. Sure it would have been condescending, but in a ‘nice’ way, and with people getting scared it might have worked. The 527’s could have done the dirty work, and besides, the base would have come around even without Palin.

  60. 60.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    October 9, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    What I don’t understand is why. He didn’t have to play it this way. He had the press practically in his pocket, all ready to give the benefit of the doubt, to credit him as the wise elder statesman.

    I have two guesses… I’m not sure which one is more appropriate:

    1. The GOP has become too big with operatives for opposing values (the evangelicals vs. the moneyed set) and McCain had to throw one overboard for the other. He chose to throw over the moneyed set (this included the press) for the chance to rev up the evangelical base with Sarah Palin.

    or

    2. He’s just suffering from dementia

  61. 61.

    Mnemosyne

    October 9, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    I have to say, when I first heard this attack, I was embarrassed for McCain:

    But it did come up, and I pointed out that he asked for $3 million for an overhead projector at a planetarium in his hometown of Chicago.

    And coincidentally the guy who was the chairman of that organization pledged to raise $200,000 for his campaign. His record is replete of requests for pork barrel, unnecessary, wasteful spending.

    Apparently McCain is under the impression that a Zeiss projector is the same thing as the overhead projector your teacher used to use in grade school.

    Why are McCain’s examples of out-of-control earmark spending always related to science, anyway? First it was researching bear DNA, now it’s letting the Adler Planetarium upgrade their 40-year-old Zeiss.

  62. 62.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    October 9, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    Why are McCain’s examples of out-of-control earmark spending always related to science, anyway?

    It’s designed to help whip his naughty evangelicals into a frenzy, which is what he’s trying to accomplish. He wants a holy war to ensue from this election since he’s not going to get his war on Iran after Obama wins.

  63. 63.

    Ed Drone

    October 9, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    Country First.

    What they don’t tell you is that they’re naming their targets, in order. I wonder what target # 2 is…
    .
    .
    Ed

  64. 64.

    HRA

    October 9, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    McCain’s first mistake was selecting Sarah Palin. Although they call it playing up to his base, he loses his own supporters or prospective supporters as well. Although they call her a substitute for Hillary, he loses by not knowing Hillary’s real supporters or even knowing Hillary as well.
    McCain’s second mistake was embracing Rove’s old campaign team. He was reduced to ashes by them in 2000. What does a person lack in their life to put ambition before the admiration of many people for decades?
    These two mistakes are the base of the current product emanating from John McCain and his supporting cast. In my email group, the silence from the 2 conservative McCain supporters is deafening. It’s over and down the drain for them.

  65. 65.

    Phoebe

    October 10, 2008 at 4:19 am

    Didn’t Ayers come up in the Dem debate that Gibson moderated with Stephanopulous?

  66. 66.

    TenguPhule

    October 10, 2008 at 4:43 am

    CountryHumanity First.

    Human first.

    Family second.

    Citizen last.

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