McCain is getting progressively more pissed off the longer this goes. His jaw muscles are pulsating like he’s got a human heart in his mouth, coupled with the Creepy Smile of Doom. Temperamentally, he’s a disaster. He is definitely more aggressive, but in a canned sort of way.
Well, McCain just answered a question about energy by segwaying into Colombian trade by bringing up meeting with hostile foreign leaders without preconditions. So, you tell me.
McCain is cranky man, Obama is wonky. I’m a politics junkie, and I’m bored.
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slackjawed gawker
How’s it going?
Well, the Phils are up 4 runs and counting, and McCain looks like he had some spicy chili that is not sitting too well. This debate doesn’t have a commercial break, does it? I hope he remembered to wear his Depends…
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Laura W
Crazy old coot.
Creepy old coot.
Crazy Creepy old coot.
Man, this format really does McShame no favors. Nothing to hide behind. He’s half stump speech and half stream-of-consciousness, senile blathering. And half pent up anger that is usually spewed out at inappropriate, unrelated times. He’s just fucking scary. How low the Rethugs have sunk. I’m a bit nauseous looking at him, and thinking about his soul mate pageant princess. (Could be the vodka and licorice bits, of course.)
(I’ve had a lot of trouble getting into the site since this afternoon. It’s the first time since all the changes, so whazzup?)
6.
AhabTRuler
I have crappy broadcast. What do the candidates look like in HD?
It’s like Obama has realized that if he’s going to tlak with McCain, he has to pretend that John’s imaginary friend Joe the Plumber is real!
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LH in NYC
McCain: I know how to fix the health care system. To fix the health care system, let’s put every kid on a diet and give him more PE. But that’s not all! Also, let’s give everyone $5,000 to spend on health care and not do a damn thing about the way insurance is organized. That should help all those 47 million people with cancer, diabetes, long term disabilities!
Is this the way he knows how to fix social security, medicare, and the federal budget deficit? Wow.
17.
The Moar You Know
No one likes Joe the plumber.
18.
nicethugbert
McFailin said Nulcear Pants briefly as he tried to say nuclear plants. ROFLMAO NUCLEAR PANTS GO GO JOHNNY McROCKET.
It’s McFails third do over and … it’s his third do over. I think he secretly loves Obama.
Oh, there is a segment about the negative campaiging and McCain is drawing equivalence between Obama saying negative things about McCains health care plan and all the evil crap McPalin says and let’s pass.
McJoe has new plumber buddy name Joe who is tired being a regular joe and wants to ride the rest of us.
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tripletee (formerly tBone)
Jesus fuck, SHUT UP about Joe the Plumber.
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dr. bloor
Whoever had "Joe the Plumber" in the drinking game should be ER bound about now.
OTOH, I’m loving the way Obama is rolling with the "Joe the Plumber" meme and not getting defensive about it.
Is McCain going to dump Palin and name Joe the Plumber as his running mate?
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Ty Lookwell
Listening on the radio. MaCain sounds so sour and nasty and and contemptuous; I can only imagine what he looks like. And the whole Joe the Plumber things is yet another weird tic, my friends.
24.
Tsulagi
Damn, if “Joe” had been the drinking word I would have been comatose LONG before now. And I can hold my liquor.
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Delia
McCain’s affect now officially has no relation to reality. Neither does what he’s saying. Wow, I don’t think anybody believes Crazy Uncle John about his health insurance plan.
McCain just looked absolutely STUNNED when Obama said that Joe the Plumber’s fine would be zero. You’d think he would have been prepared for that.
The truth will do that to you.
I wonder how people are responding to McCain’s insane focus on Joe the Plumber and the business he works 96 hours a week to own. He brings it up whether or not it’s relevant.
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Pixie
Of course Palin would understand the importance of helping special needs individuals since she happens to be one herself.
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AhabTRuler
McCain’s stance on healthcare scares the crap outta me.
Course, I have a herniated C-7 disc, and I am lucky to have a collegiate insurance plan.
McCain just looked absolutely STUNNED when Obama said that Joe the Plumber’s fine would be zero. You’d think he would have been prepared for that.
Best moment of the debate. McCain goes "Really?" and my first instinct is to think he’s being sarcastic, but his expression afterwards led me to think he was completely caught off guard (i.e. he swallowed the human heart that was causing his jaw to pulsate)
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nicethugbert
McBaldFacedLiar lies about Obama’s plans right after Obama just told us what they were. AMAZING!
32.
slackjawed gawker
Oopsie. McCain just snubbed Alito.
33.
Sleeper
The Nikkei just dropped another ten percent of its volume on opening.
Once again, Excellent News for John McCain.
34.
tripletee (formerly tBone)
Joe the Plumber thinks McCain should dial back on the sneering contempt. And stop smiling, it makes you look like a scary methed-up lawn gnome.
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Josh Huaco
Oh God, MacBane is pandering on abortion. It’s desperation time…
36.
Comrade Darkness
I gave up on watching, but am curious: why would Joetheplumber get fined?
37.
The Other Steve
Well this debate is exciting!
38.
TR
Obama just stomped the shit out of McCain’s abortion attack. Wow.
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AhabTRuler
Obama isn’t as strong on the abortion issue.
I think he’s right, but it’s a hard argument to make in this format. I hate the over-simplification of complex issues.
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dr. bloor
Tapper has a post up re: the real interaction between Obama and Joe the Plumber last week. Not surprisingly, rather different from John the Liar’s characterization of it.
Are you kidding me, I think this is great. McCain just keeps handing turds to Obama who turns them into little golden nuggets. McCain looks irrational, petty and scary. Obama comes off looking respectful, thoughtful and graceful – presidential. McCain hands him the chance to clear the air about Ayres beautifully, too.
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phobos
I just switched to the NLCS game.
McCain bowed to wingnut central as far as being a dick, probably not as convincingly as they would have liked.
Obama handled it as well as could be expected.
The Red State live chat provided some brief, yet drearily predictable entertainment value.
43.
LH in NYC
Thank you Obama! Prevent unwanted pregnancy. Like Palin’s daughter’s – by teaching about how to prevent it.
And did you guys see McCreepy’s toothy grin when Obama said sexuality is sacred? He is one weird dude!
44.
Delia
Is there an internet doctor in the house? I think John McCain’s pupil’s are totally dilated as well as blinking about ninety times a minute. I want to know what he’s on.
45.
Ty Lookwell
The Nikkei just dropped another ten percent of its volume on opening.
goddamnit.
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Delia
Is there an internet doctor in the house? I think John McCain’s pupils are totally dilated as well as blinking about ninety times a minute. I want to know what he’s on.
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Studly Pantload
Why does McCain keep lobbing slowballs at Obama? That "Obama wants to be in ur house, killin’ your children" was a leisurely stroll into a chopper blade. Can that man do nothing competently?
48.
AhabTRuler
I did like the way Obama handles the Ayers stuff. Really solid and rational. Unlike McSparky, who definitely comes off as a crank.
49.
ksmiami
Okay – don’t hate me and know that my dad as a spry active 76 year old is younger than most 40 somethings, but I feel like Austin Powers when he confronts the mole… so here goes
MCCAIN IS TOO FUCKING OLD TO BE PRESIDENT.
TOO OLD
GEEZER
Jesus Christ he creeps me out
50.
TR
Mrs. Obama = That One’s Wife
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The Moar You Know
Obama is campaigning to everyone; McCain is campaigning to the base. This election is over, just don’t forget to vote.
52.
Josh Huaco
@Studly Pantload: Yeah, I couldn’t believe that either. He’s giving Obama a chance to explain himself well on every topic.
53.
AkaDad
John McCain is pwning Obama. Only anti-American traitors would disagree.
@Delia: I just turned on the debate about fifteen minutes and the first thing I noticed was the blinking. Is he being held hostage and blinking a secret message? O oo o o oh … I picking it up now … "H-e-p m-e. H-e-p m-e. M-y c-a-m-p-a-i-g-n h-a-s f-a-l-l-e-n a-n-d i-t c-a-n-n-o-t g-e-t u-p!"
If only Barack Obama had agreed to do town hall forums.
56.
handy
McCain is in full on smarmy condescension mode, full stop. Like at every single opportunity. He really thinks this is going to put him back into the game?
57.
nicethugbert
McTesty is a prick right to Obama’s face and he’s a friendly hardon towards Sheffer.
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DFD
Since when was Trig autistic?
59.
dr. bloor
Actually, John, Palin doesn’t know anything personally about autism. Her baby has Down’s Syndrome.
Fucking idiot.
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Delia
I’m thinking John (Cole, that is) made the wiser, certainly the more amusing choice. I have an unwatched copy of Stargate Continuum sitting on my shelf which I’m thinking of with longing as I listen to McCrazy ramble on about charter schools.
ZOMG! McCrazy thinks Sarah’s baby has autism. He doesn’t know the difference between Down’s Syndrome and autism.
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tripletee (formerly tBone)
Man. I thought Obama was off his game in the beginning, but he fucking shredded Angry McCrankypants over the last hour. I’m a little stunned at what a whiny little prick McCain was. Did he really think this was going to help him?
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AhabTRuler
McCain just did the Joker face at the end of the voucher statement. Creepy.
Can anyone explain to me why McCain brought up Trig Plain’s autism during a comment about education spending? Maybe I missed something, but it looks like the mother of all non-sequiturs of this evening.
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Laura W
Maybe this was on the last thread, but what’s the deal with Palin and autism
Oh, you asked this many sentences and creepy smiles ago. I was rushing over here to ask: "Is Trig a Downs Syndrome child, or an autistic child?" and does Johnny Drama know there is a difference?
It’s like Obama has realized that if he’s going to tlak with McCain, he has to pretend that John’s imaginary friend Joe the Plumber is real!
HA!!!!! Well put.
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dr. bloor
I thought McCain was ahead early, but he turned back into a pumpkin and Obama did exactly what he had to do.
Whatever the CNN idiot dials say tonight, the two stories tomorrow:
1. Obama’s conversation with Joe the Plumber wasn’t anything like what McLiar said it was, and Tapper has the tape to prove it.
2. McCain is so incapable of empathy and basic awareness of those around him that he doesn’t know the difference between Down’s Syndrome and autism, or in the very least doesn’t know what’s up with his running mate’s baby.
67.
t jasper parnell
Autism = wingnut catnip relative to vaccinations.
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A la lanterne les aristos
Obviously they coached McCain on the eye contact thing.
So now he’s staring at him like that crazy guy on the bus this morning. Nice choice.
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Martin
Can anyone explain to me why McCain brought up Trig Plain’s autism during a comment about education spending? Maybe I missed something, but it looks like the mother of all non-sequiturs of this evening.
Can anyone explain to me why McCain brought up Trig Plain’s autism during a comment about education spending?
For the second time, I think. Trig’s a Down’s baby, not autisitc. The autism/education linkage is some kind of dominionist/faith-healing dogwhistle that I’m not familiar with.
I’ve read enough people who think like I do: they’ve got McCain on medication. Seriously. Think about it. He seems so completely different this week than last week. I think they got him on Xanex over the weekend. But he’s sluggish, so they give him a boost.
For the second time, I think. Trig’s a Down’s baby, not autisitc. The autism/education linkage is some kind of dominionist/faith-healing dogwhistle that I’m not familiar with.
I forgot that her child has Down Syndrome.
Nevertheless, I don’t understand the link at all. I mean, I usually understand the buzzwords for both sides, but this one has me scratching my head.
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nicethugbert
Undecideds are MORONS! Most clueless dumbfucks in the country!
77.
AkaDad
The edit function is awesome when WordPress works.
I’ll go out on a limb and predict that the polls win say Obama won.
win = will
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Delia
Can anyone explain to me why McCain brought up Trig Plain’s autism
Trig Palin is not autistic. He has Down’s Syndrome. The explanation is that John McCain is a senile old man who is incompletely connected to reality. He thought he was connecting to parents with special needs children and Barack had earlier slapped him down by connecting the issue to spending so he was trying to bring it up again, not realizing he doesn’t have his running mate’s baby’s disability right.
And I note Andrea Mitchell thinks McCain won. She must be pissed because her husband helped bring on the financial meltdown.
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tavella
Has Senator Clinton had work done recently? She’s looking awfully good on CNN right now. And very nice pivot on that first question, too.
I can’t believe I’m that dense. :) I really thought it was some weird fundie dogwhistle because not for a second did I entertain the thought that McCain couldn’t even get the condition of his running-mate’s child right. He’s even dumber than I thought, which is scary.
Went out for dinner, came home and watched Ghost Hunters, a show where guys look for proof of life after death. I figure that was close enough to anything related to McPOW’s political career.
@tavella: She got some sleep. She ran herself into the ground during the primary.
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Joe Lisboa
And I note Andrea Mitchell thinks McCain won. She must be pissed because her husband helped bring on the financial meltdown.
Bingo. Boingo.
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Phoebe
tavella, I was thinking the same. It’s the jowls, or lack of, I think. Her lip lines were the only lines on her face. But also she looks better in brown than she does in a lot of the other colors she wears. Such as black, or schoolbus yellow.
Time to prove I’m not a sexist: Obama is getting grayer by the second. Which probably helps him. Which is so unfaaaaiiiir.
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Comrade Stuck
I’m just wondering how there’s so many comments that got thru. The site has been dead from here since just before the debate began. And now the wordpress error shows up again. It’s Deja Vu all over again.
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nicethugbert
OMG! Joe The Plumber is on and he sounds just as stupid as his associations! He’s uncommited but he knows who he’s going to vote for. Fucking uncommiteds are such bullshit artists. McCain plants!
WTF Joe!? Off shore drilling?
Fuck, Joe, you’re reciting the McCain lines.
According to Joe, taxing $250,000 is a slippery slope. How about a billion Joe? Hey Joe, lets just grow the money on trees then we will not need taxes!
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nicethugbert
I notice that people tend to believe whatever unflatering noise rethugs make about Democrats. Why? I know there is that research that says that about 1/3, or was it 2/3 thirds, of ze pahpulase is stupid, i.e. they believe lies when the accused defends himself. But, it seems that when it’s a rethug talking about a dem, it doesn’t matter what the dem says or does. Or, is it that dems are not good at countering the smear? What should the Dems do? Moon the audience? It’s unnatural to mo.., eh, not defend yourself.
Sadly, during one of McCain’s uppity moments, McUppity if you will, moments of fake self defense and truth squading, Obama did turn away. But, Obama won. HAHAHAHA McUppity is a McLoser!
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eyeball
Joe the plumber makes more dough than I do. What about Eyeball the Sap? Where is my shoutout?
@nicethugbert: How the fuck can you be uncommitted AND know who you’re going to vote for?
I work with someone who is uncommitted and almost proud of the fact. As the days go by and she once again announces that she really just can’t make up her mind, the chances that we’ll all rise up and smack her across the head with rulers increase.
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Comrade Tax Analyst
tripletee said:
And stop smiling, it makes you look like a scary methed-up lawn gnome.
I predict that by the year 2056 the "scary, methed-up lawn gnome" look will be considered "Presidential".
Makes me kinda glad I’ll be long-dead by then.
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Comrade Tax Analyst
The Grand Panjandrum
@Delia: I just turned on the debate about fifteen minutes and the first thing I noticed was the blinking. Is he being held hostage and blinking a secret message? O oo o o oh … I picking it up now … "H-e-p m-e. H-e-p m-e. M-y c-a-m-p-a-i-g-n h-a-s f-a-l-l-e-n a-n-d i-t c-a-n-n-o-t g-e-t u-p!"
I’m thinking, "Win" on that remark.
I think the McCain campaign should try and use the blinking as their "message" for the final 3 weeks of the campaign: "Blink for John McCain!", where they encourage all McCain supporters to go around blinking at everybody as a method of building a groudswell of support. See, the blinking neatly avoids having to make any verbal statements or arguments as to WHY one should vote for John McCain. It’s a perfect fit because that’s always been one of their weak areas. They can just substitute blinks in place of all their usual nonsense and batshit lying.
And if it catches on it will really make sites like Red State much calmer. I think that would do them a lot of good at this point.
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Chris
Joe the plumber makes more dough than I do. What about Eyeball the Sap? Where is my shoutout?
I’ve been snickering at a bunch of stuff on this thread, but something about "Eyeball the Sap" is completely cracking me up.
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Twisted_Colour
Not bad, had the goitre cut out last week. Yourself?
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Keith
McCain is getting progressively more pissed off the longer this goes. His jaw muscles are pulsating like he’s got a human heart in his mouth, coupled with the Creepy Smile of Doom. Temperamentally, he’s a disaster. He is definitely more aggressive, but in a canned sort of way.
Brian J
Well, McCain just answered a question about energy by segwaying into Colombian trade by bringing up meeting with hostile foreign leaders without preconditions. So, you tell me.
jnfr
McCain is cranky man, Obama is wonky. I’m a politics junkie, and I’m bored.
slackjawed gawker
How’s it going?
Well, the Phils are up 4 runs and counting, and McCain looks like he had some spicy chili that is not sitting too well. This debate doesn’t have a commercial break, does it? I hope he remembered to wear his Depends…
Laura W
Crazy old coot.
Creepy old coot.
Crazy Creepy old coot.
Man, this format really does McShame no favors. Nothing to hide behind. He’s half stump speech and half stream-of-consciousness, senile blathering. And half pent up anger that is usually spewed out at inappropriate, unrelated times. He’s just fucking scary. How low the Rethugs have sunk. I’m a bit nauseous looking at him, and thinking about his soul mate pageant princess. (Could be the vodka and licorice bits, of course.)
(I’ve had a lot of trouble getting into the site since this afternoon. It’s the first time since all the changes, so whazzup?)
AhabTRuler
I have crappy broadcast. What do the candidates look like in HD?
Michael D.
It’s boring. McCain’s makeup sucks.
Josh Huaco
Maybe this was on the last thread, but what’s the deal with Palin and autism? Is this some sort of weird fundy-homeschool dog whistle or something?
AkaDad
Obama wants to force Joe the plumber to buy a belt, so we don’t see his crack.
Delia
blink blink blink creepy smile creepy smile creepy smile..
It’s like he sort of had it all under control a little bit at the beginning and now it’s all falling apart.
Now he’s on to his health plan and his $5000 tax rebate. It’s really bombing with the CNN indys, especially the women.
DFD
I can’t stand listening to McCain ramble on about insurance. The twat has had government coverage every single fucking day of his life.
Brian J
Obama is kicking McCain’s ass on health care. He stole McCain’s time and he’s revealing him for the fool he is.
The Other Steve
McCain is like… hehe I’m going to get him. Oh boy, I’m gonna get him. hehe
GeoX
McCain just looked absolutely STUNNED when Obama said that Joe the Plumber’s fine would be zero. You’d think he would have been prepared for that.
Prematurely Grey
It’s like Obama has realized that if he’s going to tlak with McCain, he has to pretend that John’s imaginary friend Joe the Plumber is real!
LH in NYC
McCain: I know how to fix the health care system. To fix the health care system, let’s put every kid on a diet and give him more PE. But that’s not all! Also, let’s give everyone $5,000 to spend on health care and not do a damn thing about the way insurance is organized. That should help all those 47 million people with cancer, diabetes, long term disabilities!
Is this the way he knows how to fix social security, medicare, and the federal budget deficit? Wow.
The Moar You Know
No one likes Joe the plumber.
nicethugbert
McFailin said Nulcear Pants briefly as he tried to say nuclear plants. ROFLMAO NUCLEAR PANTS GO GO JOHNNY McROCKET.
It’s McFails third do over and … it’s his third do over. I think he secretly loves Obama.
Oh, there is a segment about the negative campaiging and McCain is drawing equivalence between Obama saying negative things about McCains health care plan and all the evil crap McPalin says and let’s pass.
McJoe has new plumber buddy name Joe who is tired being a regular joe and wants to ride the rest of us.
tripletee (formerly tBone)
Jesus fuck, SHUT UP about Joe the Plumber.
dr. bloor
Whoever had "Joe the Plumber" in the drinking game should be ER bound about now.
OTOH, I’m loving the way Obama is rolling with the "Joe the Plumber" meme and not getting defensive about it.
demkat620
I fear a random act of stupidy from McCain.
Toga! Toga! Toga!
Sleeper
Is McCain going to dump Palin and name Joe the Plumber as his running mate?
Ty Lookwell
Listening on the radio. MaCain sounds so sour and nasty and and contemptuous; I can only imagine what he looks like. And the whole Joe the Plumber things is yet another weird tic, my friends.
Tsulagi
Damn, if “Joe” had been the drinking word I would have been comatose LONG before now. And I can hold my liquor.
Delia
McCain’s affect now officially has no relation to reality. Neither does what he’s saying. Wow, I don’t think anybody believes Crazy Uncle John about his health insurance plan.
Brian J
The truth will do that to you.
I wonder how people are responding to McCain’s insane focus on Joe the Plumber and the business he works 96 hours a week to own. He brings it up whether or not it’s relevant.
Pixie
Of course Palin would understand the importance of helping special needs individuals since she happens to be one herself.
AhabTRuler
McCain’s stance on healthcare scares the crap outta me.
Course, I have a herniated C-7 disc, and I am lucky to have a collegiate insurance plan.
JL
@Delia: Joe the Plumber might.
Keith
Best moment of the debate. McCain goes "Really?" and my first instinct is to think he’s being sarcastic, but his expression afterwards led me to think he was completely caught off guard (i.e. he swallowed the human heart that was causing his jaw to pulsate)
nicethugbert
McBaldFacedLiar lies about Obama’s plans right after Obama just told us what they were. AMAZING!
slackjawed gawker
Oopsie. McCain just snubbed Alito.
Sleeper
The Nikkei just dropped another ten percent of its volume on opening.
Once again, Excellent News for John McCain.
tripletee (formerly tBone)
Joe the Plumber thinks McCain should dial back on the sneering contempt. And stop smiling, it makes you look like a scary methed-up lawn gnome.
Josh Huaco
Oh God, MacBane is pandering on abortion. It’s desperation time…
Comrade Darkness
I gave up on watching, but am curious: why would Joetheplumber get fined?
The Other Steve
Well this debate is exciting!
TR
Obama just stomped the shit out of McCain’s abortion attack. Wow.
AhabTRuler
Obama isn’t as strong on the abortion issue.
I think he’s right, but it’s a hard argument to make in this format. I hate the over-simplification of complex issues.
dr. bloor
Tapper has a post up re: the real interaction between Obama and Joe the Plumber last week. Not surprisingly, rather different from John the Liar’s characterization of it.
harlana pepper
Are you kidding me, I think this is great. McCain just keeps handing turds to Obama who turns them into little golden nuggets. McCain looks irrational, petty and scary. Obama comes off looking respectful, thoughtful and graceful – presidential. McCain hands him the chance to clear the air about Ayres beautifully, too.
phobos
I just switched to the NLCS game.
McCain bowed to wingnut central as far as being a dick, probably not as convincingly as they would have liked.
Obama handled it as well as could be expected.
The Red State live chat provided some brief, yet drearily predictable entertainment value.
LH in NYC
Thank you Obama! Prevent unwanted pregnancy. Like Palin’s daughter’s – by teaching about how to prevent it.
And did you guys see McCreepy’s toothy grin when Obama said sexuality is sacred? He is one weird dude!
Delia
Is there an internet doctor in the house? I think John McCain’s pupil’s are totally dilated as well as blinking about ninety times a minute. I want to know what he’s on.
Ty Lookwell
goddamnit.
Delia
Is there an internet doctor in the house? I think John McCain’s pupils are totally dilated as well as blinking about ninety times a minute. I want to know what he’s on.
Studly Pantload
Why does McCain keep lobbing slowballs at Obama? That "Obama wants to be in ur house, killin’ your children" was a leisurely stroll into a chopper blade. Can that man do nothing competently?
AhabTRuler
I did like the way Obama handles the Ayers stuff. Really solid and rational. Unlike McSparky, who definitely comes off as a crank.
ksmiami
Okay – don’t hate me and know that my dad as a spry active 76 year old is younger than most 40 somethings, but I feel like Austin Powers when he confronts the mole… so here goes
MCCAIN IS TOO FUCKING OLD TO BE PRESIDENT.
TOO OLD
GEEZER
Jesus Christ he creeps me out
TR
Mrs. Obama = That One’s Wife
The Moar You Know
Obama is campaigning to everyone; McCain is campaigning to the base. This election is over, just don’t forget to vote.
Josh Huaco
@Studly Pantload: Yeah, I couldn’t believe that either. He’s giving Obama a chance to explain himself well on every topic.
AkaDad
John McCain is pwning Obama. Only anti-American traitors would disagree.
The Grand Panjandrum
@Delia: I just turned on the debate about fifteen minutes and the first thing I noticed was the blinking. Is he being held hostage and blinking a secret message? O oo o o oh … I picking it up now … "H-e-p m-e. H-e-p m-e. M-y c-a-m-p-a-i-g-n h-a-s f-a-l-l-e-n a-n-d i-t c-a-n-n-o-t g-e-t u-p!"
Brian J
If only Barack Obama had agreed to do town hall forums.
handy
McCain is in full on smarmy condescension mode, full stop. Like at every single opportunity. He really thinks this is going to put him back into the game?
nicethugbert
McTesty is a prick right to Obama’s face and he’s a friendly hardon towards Sheffer.
DFD
Since when was Trig autistic?
dr. bloor
Actually, John, Palin doesn’t know anything personally about autism. Her baby has Down’s Syndrome.
Fucking idiot.
Delia
I’m thinking John (Cole, that is) made the wiser, certainly the more amusing choice. I have an unwatched copy of Stargate Continuum sitting on my shelf which I’m thinking of with longing as I listen to McCrazy ramble on about charter schools.
ZOMG! McCrazy thinks Sarah’s baby has autism. He doesn’t know the difference between Down’s Syndrome and autism.
tripletee (formerly tBone)
Man. I thought Obama was off his game in the beginning, but he fucking shredded Angry McCrankypants over the last hour. I’m a little stunned at what a whiny little prick McCain was. Did he really think this was going to help him?
AhabTRuler
McCain just did the Joker face at the end of the voucher statement. Creepy.
Martin
Win
Brian J
Can anyone explain to me why McCain brought up Trig Plain’s autism during a comment about education spending? Maybe I missed something, but it looks like the mother of all non-sequiturs of this evening.
Laura W
Oh, you asked this many sentences and creepy smiles ago. I was rushing over here to ask: "Is Trig a Downs Syndrome child, or an autistic child?" and does Johnny Drama know there is a difference?
HA!!!!! Well put.
dr. bloor
I thought McCain was ahead early, but he turned back into a pumpkin and Obama did exactly what he had to do.
Whatever the CNN idiot dials say tonight, the two stories tomorrow:
1. Obama’s conversation with Joe the Plumber wasn’t anything like what McLiar said it was, and Tapper has the tape to prove it.
2. McCain is so incapable of empathy and basic awareness of those around him that he doesn’t know the difference between Down’s Syndrome and autism, or in the very least doesn’t know what’s up with his running mate’s baby.
t jasper parnell
Autism = wingnut catnip relative to vaccinations.
A la lanterne les aristos
Obviously they coached McCain on the eye contact thing.
So now he’s staring at him like that crazy guy on the bus this morning. Nice choice.
Martin
Trig doesn’t have autism – Down’s Syndrome.
Brian J
Wait a second. Are you telling me McCain was making shit up and/or being ignorant of basic facts? I, for one, can’t believe that.
AkaDad
I’ll go out on a limb and predict that the polls will say Obama won.
Pooh
@Brian J:
Especially since Trig has Down’s not Autism…
The Moar You Know
For the second time, I think. Trig’s a Down’s baby, not autisitc. The autism/education linkage is some kind of dominionist/faith-healing dogwhistle that I’m not familiar with.
Prematurely Grey
I’ve read enough people who think like I do: they’ve got McCain on medication. Seriously. Think about it. He seems so completely different this week than last week. I think they got him on Xanex over the weekend. But he’s sluggish, so they give him a boost.
Totally on drugs.
Brian J
I forgot that her child has Down Syndrome.
Nevertheless, I don’t understand the link at all. I mean, I usually understand the buzzwords for both sides, but this one has me scratching my head.
nicethugbert
Undecideds are MORONS! Most clueless dumbfucks in the country!
AkaDad
The edit function is awesome when WordPress works.
win = will
Delia
Trig Palin is not autistic. He has Down’s Syndrome. The explanation is that John McCain is a senile old man who is incompletely connected to reality. He thought he was connecting to parents with special needs children and Barack had earlier slapped him down by connecting the issue to spending so he was trying to bring it up again, not realizing he doesn’t have his running mate’s baby’s disability right.
And I note Andrea Mitchell thinks McCain won. She must be pissed because her husband helped bring on the financial meltdown.
tavella
Has Senator Clinton had work done recently? She’s looking awfully good on CNN right now. And very nice pivot on that first question, too.
Josh Huaco
@Laura W:
I can’t believe I’m that dense. :) I really thought it was some weird fundie dogwhistle because not for a second did I entertain the thought that McCain couldn’t even get the condition of his running-mate’s child right. He’s even dumber than I thought, which is scary.
kommrade jakevich
Went out for dinner, came home and watched Ghost Hunters, a show where guys look for proof of life after death. I figure that was close enough to anything related to McPOW’s political career.
@The Grand Panjandrum: W-I-N, my friend.
John Cole
@tavella: She got some sleep. She ran herself into the ground during the primary.
Joe Lisboa
And I note Andrea Mitchell thinks McCain won. She must be pissed because her husband helped bring on the financial meltdown.
Bingo. Boingo.
Phoebe
tavella, I was thinking the same. It’s the jowls, or lack of, I think. Her lip lines were the only lines on her face. But also she looks better in brown than she does in a lot of the other colors she wears. Such as black, or schoolbus yellow.
Time to prove I’m not a sexist: Obama is getting grayer by the second. Which probably helps him. Which is so unfaaaaiiiir.
Comrade Stuck
I’m just wondering how there’s so many comments that got thru. The site has been dead from here since just before the debate began. And now the wordpress error shows up again. It’s Deja Vu all over again.
nicethugbert
OMG! Joe The Plumber is on and he sounds just as stupid as his associations! He’s uncommited but he knows who he’s going to vote for. Fucking uncommiteds are such bullshit artists. McCain plants!
WTF Joe!? Off shore drilling?
Fuck, Joe, you’re reciting the McCain lines.
According to Joe, taxing $250,000 is a slippery slope. How about a billion Joe? Hey Joe, lets just grow the money on trees then we will not need taxes!
nicethugbert
I notice that people tend to believe whatever unflatering noise rethugs make about Democrats. Why? I know there is that research that says that about 1/3, or was it 2/3 thirds, of ze pahpulase is stupid, i.e. they believe lies when the accused defends himself. But, it seems that when it’s a rethug talking about a dem, it doesn’t matter what the dem says or does. Or, is it that dems are not good at countering the smear? What should the Dems do? Moon the audience? It’s unnatural to mo.., eh, not defend yourself.
Sadly, during one of McCain’s uppity moments, McUppity if you will, moments of fake self defense and truth squading, Obama did turn away. But, Obama won. HAHAHAHA McUppity is a McLoser!
eyeball
Joe the plumber makes more dough than I do. What about Eyeball the Sap? Where is my shoutout?
kommrade jakevich
@nicethugbert: How the fuck can you be uncommitted AND know who you’re going to vote for?
I work with someone who is uncommitted and almost proud of the fact. As the days go by and she once again announces that she really just can’t make up her mind, the chances that we’ll all rise up and smack her across the head with rulers increase.
Comrade Tax Analyst
I predict that by the year 2056 the "scary, methed-up lawn gnome" look will be considered "Presidential".
Makes me kinda glad I’ll be long-dead by then.
Comrade Tax Analyst
I’m thinking, "Win" on that remark.
I think the McCain campaign should try and use the blinking as their "message" for the final 3 weeks of the campaign: "Blink for John McCain!", where they encourage all McCain supporters to go around blinking at everybody as a method of building a groudswell of support. See, the blinking neatly avoids having to make any verbal statements or arguments as to WHY one should vote for John McCain. It’s a perfect fit because that’s always been one of their weak areas. They can just substitute blinks in place of all their usual nonsense and batshit lying.
And if it catches on it will really make sites like Red State much calmer. I think that would do them a lot of good at this point.
Chris
I’ve been snickering at a bunch of stuff on this thread, but something about "Eyeball the Sap" is completely cracking me up.
Twisted_Colour
Not bad, had the goitre cut out last week. Yourself?