Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The Giant Orange Man Baby is having a bad day.

These are not very smart people, and things got out of hand.

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the gop

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

In after Baud. Damn.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

The line between political reporting and fan fiction continues to blur.

If you can’t control your emotions, someone else will.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

She burned that motherfucker down, and I am so here for it. Thank you, Caroline Kennedy.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

The real work of an opposition party is to hold the people in power accountable.

Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

I desperately hope that, yet again, i am wrong.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

When I was faster i was always behind.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

Hey hey, RFK, how many kids did you kill today?

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  2. 2.

    SamFromUtah

    She has a great ability to use a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. That’s unique.

    …unique?

    How long have you been following politics?

  6. 6.

    Comrade Stuck

    Uh oh! Maybe Pailin the Impalin could gives us the skinny on this little "cookie jar moment".

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

    Now that’s reform you can believe in!

  7. 7.

    J. Maynard Gelinas

    Over at NBC affiliate KUSA (Colorado), Ms. Palin is quoted as having said this: Report removed.

    Fortunately, thinkprogess has an article and dkos ripped the video and posted it to youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA

    Here is the quote:

    Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”

    PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

    OK, so this is old news. I’m sure everyone here has read Article I, Section III of the US Constitution and knows that about the only enumerated power of the Vice Presidency is the right to cast a tie-breaking Senate vote.

    However, over at Redstate, it would appear that clown shoes are now being worn by one whoclaims to be a law professor:

    Steven_Willis October 21st, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. CDT (link)

    The VP is President of the Senate.

    While most VPs have ignored the position other than for the occasional tie-breaking vote, Palin could do otherwise.

    The VP is much like a Committee Chair who can: recognize speakers, enforce rules, or even help set agenda, if not more. This is an interesting Constitutional theory and one I hope she pursues.

    Steve Willis Professor of Law University of Florida College of Law

    (Last line in comment is a .sig)

    What the hell? And I note that Moe is there "blamming" anyone’s account who might post a comment in dispute of this man’s statement. Where the hell are they getting this stuff? And what’s a law professor doing trying to argue this position? While not a lawyer, I’ve never heard anything even remotely like this argued by legal scholars before.

    One notes that, as others have pointed out, the only enumerated power of the Vice President is to cast a tie-breaking Senate vote. However, the law professor appears to discern extra-constitutional authority to gain committee chairs, recognize speakers, and other rule-making and rule enforcing actions – those typically performed by the Majority Leader. Essentially, from what I glean, he suggests that the Majority Leader position be subsumed by the Vice Presidency.

    While nothing in the constitution cedes this authority to the Vice Presidency, I suspect the professor would argue that the precedent of powers handed to the vice presidency by the executive could be extended to the Senates – were they willing. However, it is thoroughly unclear to me how a Republican Vice President could wrest rule-making and other powers from a Democratic Majority Leader.

    I would have replied there, but my account at Redstate has been "blammed". I won’t bother creating another one. Moe will just "blam" it again, regardless.

  8. 8.

    J. Maynard Gelinas

    My comment just got mangled by a submission bug. Here it is again:

    Over at NBC affiliate KUSA (Colorado), Ms. Palin is quoted as having said this: Report removed.

    Fortunately, thinkprogess has an article and dkos ripped the video and posted it to youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA

    Here is the quote:

    Q: Brandon Garcia wants to know, “What does the Vice President do?”

    PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.

    OK, so this is old news. I’m sure everyone here has read Article I, Section III of the US Constitution and knows that about the only enumerated power of the Vice Presidency is the right to cast a tie-breaking Senate vote.

    However, over at Redstate, it would appear that clown shoes are now being worn by one who claims to be a law professor:

    Steven_Willis October 21st, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. CDT (link)

    The VP is President of the Senate.

    While most VPs have ignored the position other than for the occasional tie-breaking vote, Palin could do otherwise.

    The VP is much like a Committee Chair who can: recognize speakers, enforce rules, or even help set agenda, if not more. This is an interesting Constitutional theory and one I hope she pursues.

    Steve Willis Professor of Law University of Florida College of Law

    (Last line in comment is a .sig)

    http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/21/and-this-is-why-we-all-did-our-happy-dance/#c63003

    (NOTE TO ADMINS: This link caused submission and preview problems when embedded in an href anchor).

    What the hell? And I note that Moe is there "blamming" anyone’s account who might post a comment in dispute of this man’s statement. Where the hell are they getting this stuff? And what’s a law professor doing trying to argue this position? While not a lawyer, I’ve never heard anything even remotely like this argued by legal scholars before.

    One notes that, as others have pointed out, the only enumerated power of the Vice President is to cast a tie-breaking Senate vote. However, the law professor appears to discern extra-constitutional authority to gain committee chairs, recognize speakers, and other rule-making and rule enforcing actions – those typically performed by the Majority Leader. Essentially, from what I glean, he suggests that the Majority Leader position be subsumed by the Vice Presidency.

    While nothing in the constitution cedes this authority to the Vice Presidency, I suspect the professor would argue that the precedent of powers handed to the vice presidency by the executive could be extended to the Senates – were they willing. However, it is thoroughly unclear to me how a Republican Vice President could wrest rule-making and other powers from a Democratic Majority Leader.

    I would have replied there, but my account at Redstate has been "blammed". I won’t bother creating another one. Moe will just "blam" it again, regardless.

  10. 10.

    Comrade Stuck

    Somebody’s got some ‘splainin to do.

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business

    Now that’s change you can believe in!

  12. 12.

    J. Maynard Gelinas

    And what the hell happened to my blockquotes? They previewed just fine and are now completely broken after submission. Sorry John, but I think you guys have a few more WordPress bugs to squash here.

  13. 13.

    Stuck in Spam

    Somebody’s got some splainin to do.

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business

    **Somehow I managed to get two comments sent to spam under two handles Stuck in the Funhouse and Comrade Stuck.
    I would be very grateful if some one got them out, just the handles, not the comments.

  14. 14.

    Stuck in Spam

    Would someone kindly free my comments and handles and emails that were marked as spam. Stuck in the Funhouse and Comrade Stuck

  16. 16.

    Comrade Jake

    So someone on Kos just wrote that MSNBC is reporting that Palin is polling worse than Bush. Anyone else catch that?

  18. 18.

    Mr. Stuck

    Somehow, I managed to get two handles and two separate email addresses with comments sent to spam from the ajax editor. Could someone please liberate these, when you get the chance
    AKA
    Stuck in the Funhouse
    Comrade Stuck

  19. 19.

    gbear

    So someone on Kos just wrote that MSNBC is reporting that Palin is polling worse than Bush.

    Could that be a sign that there is intelligent life on earth?

  20. 20.

    donovong

    It’s nothing but "word spaghetti." You wither have to accept the whole wad as is, or kill yourslef trying to untangle all that shit.

    And, yes, she pools as more of a drag on the ticket then Bushie.

  21. 21.

    Comrade Jake

    Just posted over at TPM:

    Responding to a list read by MSNBC pollsters, voters rated "Palin’s qualifications to be president" to be their top concern about McCain’s candidacy. The runner up was that he’d continue George Bush’s policies.

    Sort of gives new meaning to "lipstick on a pig", huh?

  22. 22.

    SamFromUtah

    @donovong: And, yes, she pools as more of a drag on the ticket then Bushie.

    The solution is clear – have Bush campaign for McCain starting immediately!

  24. 24.

    slammin' sammy

    just saw a story on that same CNN that early voters in West Virginia were encountering problems with voting machines that were switching their votes for Obama over to McCain.

    Get ready for a big mess on November 4. It is absolutely outrageous that there no mandatory paper trails for every state that uses those contraptions. It is just asking for cheating.

  26. 26.

    thefncrow

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII: I was going to post about that, because it’s so incredible.

    She has to filibuster a question from a third grader. In the process, she gets the answer to the question wrong. And if that wasn’t enough, she undercuts the selling point that she herself tries to tout (executive experience) by getting the question wrong!

  27. 27.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    It’s not just the ignorance, it’s the attitude. She talked down to the absent child in that cloying, smarmy way she uses for everyone she isn’t sneering at.

    Condescending AND wrong. Thus were a thousand Starbursts launched.

  28. 28.

    Tsulagi

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    Beat me to it too, Circus.

    Seems before the McCain campaign unleashed Palin to take questions from third graders, maybe they should have finally filled her in on what a VP does. Yes, in Palin World, the VP is in charge of the Senate mixing it up with senators to set great new policy changes to make life better for third graders like Brandon and everybody.

    I’m guessing she has an honorary doctorate in government from Liberty University.

  30. 30.

    agorabum

    Oddly enough, the only "reporting" unit that looked into the role of the Mayor’s office in Wasilia is The Daily Show. They interviewed the current mayor… hillarious.
    She asserted that being mayor does prepare you to be VP. When asked how… she is speechless.
    Sully has it posted:
    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/culture-war.html
    Let’s not forget that Sarah Palin ran against a split ticket republican party; the incumbent placed 3rd in the primary…

  31. 31.

    J. Maynard Gelinas

    CBECK:

    Note that I said "| /dev/null", in which case execute permissions on the device node are irrelevant. And who in their right minds would change permission settings down /dev? Talk about inviting disaster on a host. :)

  32. 32.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    Gosh, Tsulagi, it’s so nice to see people using the DKos YouTube videos. I totally forgot they implemented those.

    Thanks!

  34. 34.

    J.

    Either that was one of the most misinformed, ignorant answers ever or she has way more chutzpah than even Dick Cheney.

  36. 36.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    I’m guessing she has an honorary doctorate in government from Liberty University.

    Nope, just a BA from University of Idaho in Communications-Journalism.

    And she wants to be president! Go figure.

  38. 38.

    orogeny

    Just watched a few of the Palin/Griffin interview clips. Jebus Crow! Griffin does everything but offer her a back rub. It’s nearly as bad as the Hewitt interview.

  39. 39.

    Calouste

    Is this the interview where she says she has ruffled a few feathers and got the scars to prove it?

  40. 40.

    Comrade Jake

    @orogeny:

    just saw a story on that same CNN that early voters in West Virginia were encountering problems with voting machines that were switching their votes for Obama over to McCain.

    The challenge for Palin at this stage is that these types of interviews aren’t going to do her any good or fundamentally change the perception of her as a nitwit. The only interviews that will make news are those where she screws up royally. She would have to knock a few tough interviews out of the park to begin moving the needle on her favorables. Good luck with that.

    But yeah, CNN’s a fucking joke. Not that there was ever any doubt.

  41. 41.

    Atanarjuat

    The liberal media once again sandbags Governor Sarah Palin, and the Ayers-lauding left predictably batters her with misogynistic joy. Glenn’s "dumber than a bag of hammers" remark is just one small example among many that typify the rank anti-woman sentiment that’s become par for the course among liberals.

    And as far as CNN is concerned, what else should have been expected? The upcoming Nobama socialist regime must be preemptively appeased, no question.

    Country First.

  42. 42.

    ComradeJ. Michael Neal

    just saw a story on that same CNN that early voters in West Virginia were encountering problems with voting machines that were switching their votes for Obama over to McCain.

    State officials are blaming user error. There don’t seem to be any reports of machines switching votes from McCain to Obama. That’s either a very odd coincidence, or early voting really isn’t going well for McCain.

  43. 43.

    Mr. Stuck

    Somebody got caught with teh hand in the cookie jar.

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.

  44. 44.

    orogeny

    I watched her just outright lie about Biden’s remark that Obama was going to see an international challenge within his first month, saying multiple times that Biden said that Obama was "untested." Griffin simply played along with her lies and even asked sarcastically if "you guys have been briefed on these scenarios." And ended the segment with "You’re right, heh, heh, heh…you’re right."

    What a tool.

  45. 45.

    Keith

    I’m guessing she has an honorary doctorate in government from Liberty University.

    And if not that, surely she has been nominated for the Nobel Prize in Energy.

  46. 46.

    Fulcanelli

    @J. Maynard Gelinas:

    While most VPs have ignored the position other than for the occasional tie-breaking vote, Palin could do otherwise.

    If… The country was batshit insane enough to elect her and that old fool who picked her out of the How To Commit Political Suicide catalog. Christ, I can not wait until this electoral clusterfuck is over. The reaction from the rest of the World when Obama’s elected should be very interesting.

  47. 47.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    Glenn’s "dumber than a bag of hammers" remark is just one small example among many that typify the rank anti-woman sentiment that’s become par for the course among liberals.

    Has it ever occurred to you that many of us are female?

    Has it also ever occurred to you that calling women stupid is what YOU are doing? We don’t think women in general are stupid, but Sarah Palin is showing us her idiocy in spades. Just because Sarah Palin is a female does not make saying anything regarding her a blanket sexist statement; but apparently you’re another idiot for not realizing this. Citing one example of a female does not mean we are citing all examples of females.

    Signed:

    A female

  48. 48.

    mak

    Griffin is the same jerk who recently filed an ACORN "expose" apparently plagiarized in toto from Fox News that omitted the fact that all suspicious registrations had been flagged by ACORN and that even suspicious registrations were required to be turned in by third party registrars like ACORN. Also the same guy who trekked to Alaska and declared Troopergate much ado about nothing. He is nothing more than a baby step up from Hannity, if that.

  49. 49.

    t jasper parnell

    @agorabum:

    If you didn’t see or don’t have tv the whole episode, which is well worth watching as he eviscerates the "real America" trope, is here.

  50. 50.

    Jess

    Glenn’s "dumber than a bag of hammers" remark is just one small example among many that typify the rank anti-woman sentiment that’s become par for the course among liberals.

    So…how does one note that a person is dumber than a bag of hammers in a properly PC, woman-friendly manner? Just curious…

  51. 51.

    Ash Can

    She has a great ability to use a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. That’s unique.

    No, that’s bullshit.

    However, over at Redstate, it would appear that clown shoes are now being worn by one who claims to be a law professor: Steven_Willis October 21st, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. CDT (link) The VP is President of the Senate. While most VPs have ignored the position other than for the occasional tie-breaking vote, Palin could do otherwise…

    Not sure how much a tax attorney would know about constitutional matters. It would probably be better to consult, say, a constitutional expert. Like that fellow who’s running for president…now what’s his name again?

    Atanarjuat: Spoof…spoof…

    A. does a really nice job of setting up wingnut talking-point targets for us, all in a row, one after the other. But I’ve been on the go all day long and I’m too tired to shoot at ’em. Maybe some other time.

  52. 52.

    Atanarjuat

    Jess said:

    So…how does one note that a person is dumber than a bag of hammers in a properly PC, woman-friendly manner? Just curious…

    You ever heard of the phrase, "disagree without being disagreeable?" Really, what’s wrong with simply stating your opposition to a female political candidate without having to denigrate her? For example, on various liberal blogs, I’ve seen the following terms employed by the oh-so tolerant and enlightened egalitarian left:

    – dumb broad
    – coont
    – b!tch
    – ditz
    – whore
    – MILF (and alternatively, VPILF)
    – beauty queen
    – Caribou Barbie

    …and so on.

    If someone refers to BHO as "uppity" or even "boy," you leftists hit the ceiling and squawk endlessly about racist bigotry and the like. But when it comes to Governor Sarah Palin you guys all high-five each other as you unload the nastiest, invective-filled sexist rants — and it’s just peachy keen.

    God, the hate and hypocrisy could choke a whole corral of horses, and then some.

    Country First.

  54. 54.

    boonagain

    I believe the McCain Campaign registered the domain name VPILF.com.

    Palin doesn’t make us see starbursts here .

  55. 55.

    gwangung

    Glenn’s "dumber than a bag of hammers" remark is just one small example among many that typify the rank anti-woman sentiment that’s become par for the course among liberals.

    Good ‘un. Quality trolling needs statements like this.

    Of course, I’d never get away with a statement like that. I have a girl friend.

  56. 56.

    Jess

    You ever heard of the phrase, "disagree without being disagreeable?"

    Okay, tell you what: why don’t you, Palin, and her supporters demonstrate that for us and we’ll try to follow along.

  57. 57.

    John Casey

    Let’s suppose for a minute that Sen. McCain had picked a different Republican woman Governor to run with, say, Gov. Jodi Rell of Connecticut.

    In that case, we wouldn’t be saying the Republican VP candidate was ‘dumber than a bag of hammers’, because that claim would be self-evidently not true.

    See, it isn’t that all women Republican politicians are dumber than a bag of hammers, it’s just Sarah. (Well, Michelle Bachman too).

  58. 58.

    Delia

    You’re really not being fair to the Moose Queen. No matter what happens with the campaign, she’s been smart enough to get herself a really nice wardrobe out of the whole adventure. And it didn’t cost her a penny. Now that’s household budgeting you can believe in.

  59. 59.

    nicethugbert

    The trick to saying nothing is too just run off a series of labels, especially of the keyword kind. A is B because B is C because C will make you D because everybody knows D is F because F has G …. It’s all just endless name calling and unsubstantiated opinion.

    Contrast that to reasonable speech such as Powell’s justification for his Obama endorsement. I endorse Obama because he exhibited favorable characteristics A, B, and C via actions D, E, F which McCain did not. McCain exhibited unfavorable characteristics G, H, I via actions J, K, L which Obama did not. Obama has exhibited more favorability than McCain therefore I endorse him for President.

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