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  1. 1.

    Punchy

    I would think that a Scary Negro who WANTED to own guns would be the scare tactic. It would seem a Black man who’d legislate to ban glocks would be more reassuring to rich old crackers

  2. 2.

    SnarkyShark

    Thus proving they are just a right wing front.

    I used to belong to the NRA, but never again.

    Like Religion, they are making their bed and creating their own demise.

  3. 3.

    Dave

    Oh noes!! I can’t haz an M-60 from a gun show now??
     
    This is like the NRA freaking out when Wilder wanted to limit handgun purchases in Virginia to one a month. Because God knows I just have to buy 10 at a clip.

  4. 4.

    TenguPhule

    (although he may not want you to own, say, a Howitzer).

    To the NRA, that’s the same thing as being completely anti-gun.

  6. 6.

    Cris v.3.1

    I heard a campaign ad on the local country-and-western nostalgia station that went something like this:

    Gettin’ up early, takin’ your son out huntin’ and fishin’, that’s part of life here in Montana.

    And I thought, hoo-boy, here it comes, something about how Obama wants to take your guns away. Then they pulled the old switcheroo:

    But John McCain is out of touch with Montana. He voted to restrict access for hunters and fishermen to public lands.

    and so on. I don’t remember what else they hit him with, but it sounded like your stereotypical "Democrats hate hunters" ad. Except it was "McCain hates hunters."

    The times they are a changin.

  7. 7.

    jake 4 that 1

    This has been the NRA’s schtick since 4evar: 1. President DemoncRat takes your legally owned guns. 2. Violent brown hordes keep their illegally owned guns. 3. Civilization ends.

  8. 8.

    Tim F.

    Rightwing groups always put up unflattering pics of Democratic politicians. Hell, this is nothing compared to the shots they dig up of Nancy Pelosi. Let’s not have a hair trigger about stuff like this.

  9. 9.

    Cris v.3.1

    @Punchy: I would think that a Scary Negro who WANTED to own guns would be the scare tactic. It would seem a Black man who’d legislate to ban glocks would be more reassuring to rich old crackers

    Right, but the Scary Black Man isn’t planning to ban glocks, he’s planning to take your guns and keep them for himself.

    It’s just like how McCain talks about Obama "spreading the wealth." He actually phrases it as though Obama himself (not the government) will be getting your tax money and spending it where he pleases.

  10. 10.

    Josh Hueco

    @Cris v.3.1:

    Suh, they don’t know a thing ’bout country music in Indiana. The bestest vintage country radio station evah is in Hamilton, Texas:

    KCLW 900 AM (you can also stream via the internet)

    ;-)

  11. 11.

    comrade rawshark

    Are the ads stepping on the text for everybody or is it just me.For me the sidebar ads are in teh middle of the page and I can only see half of what I’m typing.

  12. 12.

    J.

    Bang bang.

    Make love, not war, I say. Of course, there be a lot of folks out there who don’t want you makin’ love to the black man.

  13. 13.

    pharniel

    yes. yes the ads are
    DOWN WITH THE ADS!
    BURN!

    and also, i wantz mah freedom.
    freedom to won an m-60, freedom to open carry (vermont style) and freedom to surf whatever i want without the government watching.

  14. 14.

    SamFromUtah

    @Punchy: I would think that a Scary Negro who WANTED to own guns would be the scare tactic.

    They sure scared the piss out of St. Reagan back in ’67.

  19. 19.

    SamFromUtah

    @AkaDad: Obama is gonna take our guns and give them to Ayers, Wright, ACORN, and NAMBLA.

    Why would empowering NAMBLA bother repubs?

  20. 20.

    Tsulagi

    That you approvingly used a link to factcheck.org proves you are in bed with the terrorists, likely in unreal America. See NRA’s Factcheck And Brady Campaign Share Same Sugar Daddy

    NRA political leadership has gone batshit loony over Obama. They’ve budgeted $40 million this election cycle with 15 of it directly targeting Obama. Their premier site for ‘conservative’ gun thought in the political arena: GunBaNObama. Cute. There you would learn that even if the scary black man is not successful in taking or keeping you from buying new guns, he will outlaw your hunting ammo. Real America is at risk.

  21. 21.

    Esther

    Rightwing groups always put up unflattering pics of Democratic politicians. Hell, this is nothing compared to the shots they dig up of Nancy Pelosi. Let’s not have a hair trigger about stuff like this.

    The Dem ads running here in CO contain some awesomely bad pictures of Marilyn Musgrave so I suppose it goes both ways. She doesn’t look scary, though, just old, frumpy and fat.

    And yes, the ads are stepping all over the text on my screen, too.

  23. 23.

    Cris v.3.1

    My Very Popular Democratic Governor, on gun rights and the Presidential race:

    HELENA – While defending Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s record, Gov. Brian Schweitzer said Tuesday that Montana voters whose main issue is guns might consider voting for Libertarian presidential candidate Bob Barr instead of either Obama or Republican John McCain.

    Looks like Brian believes that the third-party races may be the tipping point that delivers Montana to Obama.

  24. 24.

    Paul L.

    First, Barack Obama supports gun ownership rights

    B.S.
    Illinois State Rifle Association Executive Director Richard Pearson Issues Open Letter to Nation’s Sportsmen Regarding Obama’s History in the Illinois Senate

    I lobbied Barack Obama extensively while he was an Illinois State Senator. As a result of that experience, I know Obama’s attitudes toward guns and gun owners better than anyone. The truth be told, in all my years in the Capitol I have never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner than does Barack Obama.

    As for the Hackcheck Factcheck article linked to where they refute the NRA’s claims by uncritically quoting from the Obama campaign.
    FactCheck plays Partisan Politics

  25. 25.

    greynoldsct00

    Are the ads stepping on the text for everybody or is it just me.For me the sidebar ads are in teh middle of the page and I can only see half of what I’m typing.

    I’m seeing it just fine with Firefox…

  26. 26.

    Nick Istre

    And this is why I outright refuse to join the NRA, as I just find that they are practically a wing of the Republican Party. Gun Owners of America is an organization I can give a little more respect; they trash both Obama and McCain relatively fairly when it comes to gun rights legislation. Hell, they used to have an article on the site stating that McCain might actually be worse than Obama when it comes to gun rights (mainly due to people actually remembering the Constitution exists when there’s a Democrat in the Oval Office…) while endorsing Ron Paul.

    Still, GOA’s seemingly "no compromise" stance isn’t something I agree with either.

  27. 27.

    Paul L.

    More on Factcheck and the NRA.

    FactCheck gets unhinged.

    The author of the anti-NRA post goes off on John Lott for asking questions:

    Regarding Obama’s work with the Joyce Foundation, Jackson said, “You are an academic? You are asking about the Joyce Foundation? What does that have to do with anything? You would have failed the freshman college logic test.”

    So past associations have no bearing?

    The rest of his responses are just as hysteric:

    “They are lying. This is what they do. This is how they make their money. Do these people have no shame? They are just making this up. I just wish that they would tell the truth.” He said that their ads were “one of the worst examples of lying” that he had “ever seen.”

    "this is what they do".

    So he has a preconceived opinion while claiming to be impartial.

    So much for ‘facts’.

    Even funnier Barack Obama supports gun ownership rights is so strong that the former Hangun Control Inc. endorses him.
    Jim And Sarah Brady, Brady Campaign Endorse Barack Obama And Joe Biden

  28. 28.

    James Hare

    Paul L.
    Generally folks here don’t take well to mind-readers. If Obama harbors this "contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner" it’s certainly been something he’s kept well-hidden. Really, is the best that trolls can come up with? One lobbyist from a pro-gun organization disparaging a Democrat?

    Real good rebuttal there buddy. Keep up the good work — in 12 days you can start writing about black helicopters and nonsense like that.

  29. 29.

    Cris v.3.1

    @Paul L.:
    From Richard Pearson’s letter:

    Although Obama claims to be an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, his voting record in the Illinois Senate paints a very different picture. While a state senator, Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also voted for a bill that would prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more than one gun per month.

    The ISRA’s website isn’t responding at the moment. Care to back up Pearson’s hair-on-fire warnings with the text of some actual bills?

  31. 31.

    Paul L.

    @James Hare:

    If Obama harbors this "contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner" it’s certainly been something he’s kept well-hidden.

    And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy toward people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

    Bitter Gun-Clinging Organization Points out Obama’s Real Record on 2nd Amendment

    "I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry." – Obama, Chicago Tribune, April 27, 1994

    "…just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right…" – 2008 Philadelphia primary debate

  32. 32.

    gbear

    KCLW 900 AM (you can also stream via the internet)

    Doesn’t streaming an AM station create a vortex that shreds the fabric of time?

  36. 36.

    TenguPhule

    "I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry."

    And what is so controversial about it?

    We don’t need random people pulling out guns in the middle of the street and getting cops killed because they can’t tell who’s the crook and who’s shooting at the crook.

  38. 38.

    comrade scott

    Obama is gonna instruct Hillary Clinton to come around to each and every house, just like Santa Clause on Xmas Eve to take our guns and give them to Ayers, Wright, ACORN, and NAMBLA.

    Fixed.

    You think I’m kidding? The few people here who don’t live in the pro-birth, single-issue ghetto live in the one right next door, the HILLARY CLINTON WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. 39.

    Loneoak

    "…just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can’t constrain the exercise of that right…" – 2008 Philadelphia primary debate

    Wow … that sure is some crazy talk. Sounds like … a constitutional lawyer.

    One of the most fucked up aspects of our political culture is how impossible it is to get single-issue conservatives to even imagine developing a broad, compromised consensus on an issue that would ultimately be to their advantage. Here we have a constitutional lawyer who represents a more or less recent consensus among liberals that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. You would think the NRA would say "Hey, here’s a dude we can work with. We still want to vote for the other guy, but let’s play loyal opposition for once." But, nope, it’s all scary black buck wants to take yer guns. Fucking morans.

  40. 40.

    Glocksman

    And what is so controversial about it?

    We don’t need random people pulling out guns in the middle of the street and getting cops killed because they can’t tell who’s the crook and who’s shooting at the crook.

    Repeating the Brady Bullshit™ doesn’t help Obama’s cause with independents, pro-gun Democrats such as John Dingell, or recent Obamacons such as myself.
    For the record, almost all states permit concealed carry.
    Some states are easier to get a permit in than others, but it is allowed.
    Also for the record, there has been no epidemic of enraged gun permit holders shooting people over traffic stops.

    Sure there’s probably been a few isolated incidents, but in the aggregate, CCW holders are more law abiding then the general public.

    I’m an Obama supporter, but I do so in spite of his record on guns.

    As for the NRA, well, let’s just say I take anything they say with a grain of salt since Grover Norquist sits on their board.

  41. 41.

    Paul L.

    @TenguPhule:
    Progressives must have been right about Bush turning the US into a police state. Police at every location where a crime is being commited.
    I have been looking for someone to defend Mrs. Jones.

    The family of one of the men who was shot by a retired United States Marine while they attempted to rob a Subway sandwich shop said the customer shouldn’t have pulled the trigger.

    […]

    "He should not have taken the law in his hands," said Rosa Jones, Gadson’s grandmother.

    Wow … that sure is some crazy talk. Sounds like … a constitutional lawyer.

    The great constitutional lawyer/scholar who when the Heller case was being decided say he could not comment because he had not read the briefings.

  44. 44.

    Tom65

    [Garrett Morris] I’m gon-na…get me a gun and shoot all the whiteys I see…get me a gun and shoot all the whiteys I see…When I shoot all the whiteys then whitey won’t bother meee…..[/Garrett Morris]

  45. 45.

    ArtV

    If a Democrat came out and said I will never ban or take away your guns, and held true to that promise, the NRA would be out of business.

    As with so many right-wing outfits, No Fear = No Money.

  46. 46.

    Apsaras

    "Officer, what are you doing? Yes, I yelled ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre. No, there was no actual fire. What? Against the law? You, sir, have forgotten the constitution! I have an absolute freedom of speech! Facist! Facist!"

  47. 47.

    Blue Raven

    Oh, it’s twoo! It’s TWOO!

    Lady, I don’t know what you’re talking about, but would you please quit sucking on my thumb?

  48. 48.

    Geeno

    If a Democrat came out and said I will never ban or take away your guns, and held true to that promise, the NRA would be out of business.

    It’s been tried – it doesn’t work. Even if ALL Democrats EVERYWHERE pledged to repeal all weapons control even allowing people to own nuclear weapons, the NRA would still advertise that.

  49. 49.

    Jasper

    The FACT is the Bush administration favors reasonable restrictions on firearms. Like, say, machine guns or carrying guns in a school zone, silencers, carrying handguns on a plane, and any other federal law on the books. It’s a myth that one party is for total gun freedom and the other confiscating them. Both sides favor reasonable restrictions and occasionally disagree on the margins.

    I am more worried about an administration that says it can jail citizens without charge, counsel or trial than Obama seizing all our guns. With the Bush philosophy, gun rights are meaningless.

    FWIW, Gun Owers of America gives McCain an F- for both 2006 and 2004.

  50. 50.

    pto892

    If this was the only difference between Obama and McCain I might be inclined to consider it-but it isn’t now, is it? The fact is an Obama administration would only be able to nibble around the edges on the gun issue without congressional support-and the congressional Dems are going to have bigger fish to fry. Not only that, the congressional Dems are publicly split on the issue anyway-some (Pelosi) would probably love a strict gun control bill and others (Webb) would fight it tooth and nail. I don’t see gun control being the overriding issue anyways-for some reason economic meltdown, a government that spies on its own people, the right to habeus corpus, hell just competent adult leadership is more important right now. If Obama starts making gun control an issue I will be the first to fight his administration over it but for the moment I want adults in charge.

  51. 51.

    TenguPhule

    Progressives must have been right about Bush turning the US into a police state. Police at every location where a crime is being commited.

    Admit it, you flunked elementry english, didn’t you?

  52. 52.

    tofubo

    i just want to be able to legally obtain whatever the blackwater mercenaries walking down my mother-in-law’s street in new orleans had, nothing less

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