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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2008 / The Family Values Party

The Family Values Party

by John Cole|  November 3, 20085:37 pm| 154 Comments

This post is in: Election 2008, Republican Stupidity, Assholes

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The CA GOP:

Obama for America violated federal law by converting its campaign funds to Senator Obama’s personal use. Senator Obama recently traveled to Hawaii to visit his sick grandmother. This was the right thing for any grandson to do-at his own expense-but it was not travel that his campaign may fund. In Senator Obama’s own words, his travels took him “off the [campaign] trail for a day.” The trip featured no campaign events of any kind its 22-hour duration and his decision to travel was “not driven by political concerns,” according to an Obama spokesperson. Since the trip’s purpose was entirely and admittedly personal, the fact that he made campaign telephone calls and talked with staff aides while travelling does not convert this purely personal trip into a proper campaign expense. Therefore, the Obama Campaign violated the FEC’s ban on “personal use” of campaign funds when it paid over $100,000 for the Campaign’s charter to fly to Hawaii without obtaining reimbursement from Senator Obama.

CNN:

Sen. Barack Obama’s grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, has died following a bout with cancer, Obama and his sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, said Monday.

But then again, this are California Republicans, too:

The closer Election Day gets, the easier it is to find stories of inflammatory political crossfire.

The latest: A Republican group in southern California was recently found distributing a newsletter showing a picture of Barack Obama on a fake $10 bill adorned with a watermelon, ribs and a bucket of fried chicken.

Stay classy, GOP.

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  1. 1.

    Fwiffo

    November 3, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Don’t worry. Their destruction is neigh.

  2. 2.

    Matt

    November 3, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Just wait, they’re going to release the Whitey tape any minute now and will be totally vindicated.

  3. 3.

    chopper

    November 3, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    gotta love the GOP.

    condolences to the obama family. she made it one day shy of seeing her grandson win the presidency. shit.

  4. 4.

    Nikki

    November 3, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    I image McCain would much rather they didn’t "go there" as I haven’t seen any calls for him to reimburse his campaign for the use of his plane during the bailout battle when he "suspended" his campaign.

    And didn’t that trip occur just a couple of weeks ago? I imagine he still has plenty of time before the FEC would get involved.

  5. 5.

    jake 4 that 1

    November 3, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    I suggest we administer kicks in the junk until they can explain why spending 100K to see his sick grandmother is BAAAD, but spending 150K at some of the most exclusive stores in the country to dress the Palin family isn’t a problem.

  6. 6.

    Ned R.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    It’s fun living out here sometimes. Sometimes.

  7. 7.

    Josh Hueco

    November 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    That’s okay. Obama paid for the trip with all those fraudulent credit card charges.

    /kidding

  8. 8.

    Cris v.3.1

    November 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    You know, they’re probably right that this trip was an improper use of campaign funds, and I cordially invite them to continue to belabor this point. The more they show themselves to be insensitive assholes with nothing but axes and grindstones, the better.

  9. 9.

    jrg

    November 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    It’s a shame she did not hold out until tomorrow, but like Sully, I think she already knew the outcome.

    Thanks to the efforts of people like Mrs. Dunham, America will continue to create leaders, regardless of the GOP attempts to divide us and cut us down.

    Rest in Peace, Mrs. Dunham, and thank you. You did your work well. Now it’s up to the rest of us to get out and vote.

  10. 10.

    Thoughtcrime

    November 3, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    The Family Values Party

    As in Gambino Family.

  11. 11.

    Comrade Dread

    November 3, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    I know we all have political differences and things can and do get heated, but at the end of the day, we’re supposed to put that crap aside and be human beings to one another.

    Given the circumstances, a functioning human being would be empathetic and merciful enough to overlook it.

  12. 12.

    Tom Ames

    November 3, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    The freepers are already talking about what secrets must be hidden in the coroner’s report of Mrs. Dunham’s death. (I’d link, but I’ll leave it to the intrepid to find their own way to that cesspit.)

    That’s right: the conspiracy theories that Madelyn Dunham’s death was somehow related to Senator Obama’s presidential campaign are already being hatched.

    What sick fucks those people are. And I use the term "people" very loosely.

  13. 13.

    Krista

    November 3, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    That makes me so incredibly sad that she did not live to see Obama become President. But I’m sure she was incredibly proud of him and at least she went out knowing that his chances were excellent. My sympathies to the family.

    If the Repubs don’t steal the election tomorrow and Obama wins, it’ll definitely be a bittersweet victory for him, methinks.

  14. 14.

    jake 4 that 1

    November 3, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    You know, they’re probably right that this trip was an improper use of campaign funds

    They make a point of saying he’s in violation because he hasn’t paid for the trip. If he does (or already has) reimburse the campaign then they’ve got less than nothin’.

  15. 15.

    Cris v.3.1

    November 3, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Therefore, the Obama Campaign violated the FEC’s ban on “personal use” of campaign funds when it paid over $100,000 for the Campaign’s charter to fly to Hawaii without obtaining reimbursement from Senator Obama.

    If reimbursement is an option, doesn’t he have until the end of the quarter to pay it back? The trip was just a couple of weeks ago.

  16. 16.

    Ned R.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    I’m not saying people here need to, I don’t know, drop the California GOP a little note about all this but if you *really* want to…

    http://www.cagop.org/contact/

  17. 17.

    Incertus

    November 3, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    @Tom Ames: You know, I figured someone would do that, and I figured it would be the Freepers, but goddamn it I’d really like to be surprised by those motherfuckers one day.

  18. 18.

    jbd

    November 3, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    It seems to me that by using the private jet, Obama enabled himself to stay longer on the campaign trail before making the visit and return more quickly to the campaign after making the visit, so use of the plane facilitated the campaign. Doesn’t seem much of a stretch.

  19. 19.

    jakester

    November 3, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Ugh. I mean, it’s not even close on the threads I saw talking about his grandmother. For every one (1) RIP post, you get three (3) "how conveeeeeenient" posts and five (5) "RIP but Obama’s still a fucking serial liar and he wants to destroy the coal industry and and and…

    This is going to be a tumultuous 8 years, John, if you don’t stop telling us what their saying. I kind of don’t want to know any more.

  20. 20.

    Evinfuilt

    November 3, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Sadly No covers the conspiracy. At least a few of them know they have the tin foil wrapped too tight..

  21. 21.

    Comrade Stuck

    November 3, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    One thing about today’s GOP. They have the best damn shovels stolen money can buy. Maybe they’ll make a commercial out this nonsense and watch America continue to pull the ladder up out of the deepening hole they’ve dug for themselves.

  22. 22.

    JoyIA

    November 3, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    McCain’s Wright ad just ran here in Des Moines. Puke.

    Who are the sick fucks that are spewing appalling comments about Madelyn Dunahm’s death being orchestrated for sympahty? I mean, seriously, who are these nut jobs? I’m guessing that the McLame campaign won’t temper their negativity or lies even during this tragedy of "Toot’s" death.

  23. 23.

    JimPortlandOR

    November 3, 2008 at 6:02 pm

    His grandparents and mother did all (and perhaps more) that family can do to raise a fine man. I hope his grandmother was alert enough in these last days to see that Barak was firmly on his way to election as President.

    As for the CA GOP, there is no decency therein and hasn’t been for decades. At least they could have waited for his grandmother’s (and surrograte mother for many years) body to grow cold. But nah, they’d pee on her grave given the opportunity.

    Sick fucks!

  24. 24.

    Comrade Jake

    November 3, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    @Incertus:

    I’m sure something comparable is coming soon over at NoIQ. In the meantime, they’re content to call him a triangulating homophobe.

    Fuckers.

  25. 25.

    matt

    November 3, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    Jim@24, your

    I hope his grandmother was alert enough in these last days to see that Barak was firmly on his way to election as President.

    is just right. There seem to be a lot of people underestimating the pain and delirium of late-stage cancer. Even if she had lived until tomorrow, it’s unlikely that she would have experienced his election in the way that we all feel that she’s entitled to.

  26. 26.

    The Moar You Know

    November 3, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    As for the CA GOP, there is no decency therein and hasn’t been for decades.

    This is truth. The red parts of this state are real "Children of the Corn" territory.

  27. 27.

    Llelldorin

    November 3, 2008 at 6:11 pm

    Yeah, this is about par for the course for the California GOP. You can see how well it’s working for them–twenty years ago, CA was a swing state.

  28. 28.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    After a campaign is over, many of these candidates take the funds that are left and use them for personal expenses… why is it that nobody ever questions that?

    I’m sure Barack Obama can afford to reimburse the fund for the expenses of a trip on a plane? McCain’s campaign is just being petty here.

    Hmmm, and yet they don’t seem to care about the hundreds of thousands of dollars for Sarah Palin’s clothes – of course this is just more projection.

    If Sarah Palin was wearing McCain-Pailin T-shirts, it MIGHT be legal, but, according to this, Sarah Pailin’s clothing is considered personal expenses. (warning: link goes to a pdf file)

  29. 29.

    Delia

    November 3, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    The California GOP, the party of Duke Cunningham, Duncan Hunter, and Dana Rohrabacher. The party that taught Ahhnold how to sweep the whole Enron ripoff under the carpet and prevent all the citizens of the state from getting any compensation from the whole criminal undertaking. Yeah, that Family Values organization.

  30. 30.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 6:22 pm

    It seems to me that by using the private jet, Obama enabled himself to stay longer on the campaign trail before making the visit and return more quickly to the campaign after making the visit, so use of the plane facilitated the campaign. Doesn’t seem much of a stretch.

    That’s a good point, and after looking at the travel for personal use regulations on the FEC site, these travel for personal use allegations are decided on a case by case basis, so he could make that argument and win it.

    I like it. :)

  31. 31.

    Tim Fuller

    November 3, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    It was a political trip. The Republican’s would have pointed to his dying grandmother and called him a heartless bitch if he hadn’t taken the trip. That makes it political.

    Enjoy.

  32. 32.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    November 3, 2008 at 6:25 pm

    The California GOP has always been a special kind of crazy. They put the "nut" in wingnut.

  33. 33.

    Fern

    November 3, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    There is also the small matter that Obama needs to travel in a such a way that his personal safety can be assured – which kind of eliminates most other options.

  34. 34.

    DaveInLA

    November 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    The whole press release is a goldmine:
    http://www.cagop.org/index.cfm/press_release_586.htm

    This trip was personally important to Senator Obama, but served no campaign purpose.

    WTF. Did McCain’s campaign pay for anything when his campaign was on hiatus? For that matter, the last month McCain didn’t do anything that served a purpose.

    I wonder what Ahnold’s position is?

  35. 35.

    Joe Beese

    November 3, 2008 at 6:28 pm

    MLK: "I may not get there with you."

    But her victory is undiminished.

  36. 36.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    I wonder what Ahnold’s position is?

    Ahnold’s position is that McCain is big, strong, manly Goliath and Obama is scrawny little David (if I remember correctly, that story turned out working in David’s favor).

  37. 37.

    LiberalTarian

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    @matt: In the pictures of Obama when he went to HI to see his grandmother, I got the sense that she was already gone. He looked so bereft. He spent more of the day at her apartment, where his memories of her probably were, than at her hospital room. When my grandmother died of stomach cancer, she wasn’t really "there" the last several weeks. It had to have been terribly hard for Obama. Now, his grandmother is at rest, and her grandson has already made history.

  38. 38.

    Moron Freeper

    November 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm

    The freepers are already talking about what secrets must be hidden in the coroner’s report of Mrs. Dunham’s death.

    Well, I mean, 85-year-old women don’t just die!

  39. 39.

    tavella

    November 3, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    There is also the small matter that Obama needs to travel in a such a way that his personal safety can be assured – which kind of eliminates most other options.

    Yup. That was pretty much why they had to take the plane. Obama can’t travel commercial; he needs to take a pack of SS agents with him, he needs to fly on a secured plane, and he at least has to take the ‘death pool’ of reporters/camerapeople with him.

  40. 40.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    I think he’s going to beat this.

  41. 41.

    Perry Como

    November 3, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    Freepers are being more lizard brained than usual.

  42. 42.

    Fern

    November 3, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    @Comrade Jake:

    I was wondering what those weasels (no offense to weasels everywhere) were going to find to talk about after the election, but then I decided I didn’t really want to know.

  43. 43.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    November 3, 2008 at 6:59 pm

    There is a special place in hell for these fuckers, right alongside the reserved spots for the NoIQers, Pumapac, Rush, Coulter, Hannity and Ingram. Lucifer is sharpening his pointy knives just to be ready.

    I am sad that Mrs. Dunham didn’t make it until tomorrow but as someone on the DR said (AmericanUnity) she will know the results before the rest of us and best of all she will be with her beloved husband and daughter to celebrate. I think we should celebrate her outstanding job at raising a fantastic human being (and next POTUS) under difficult circumstances. Sleep tight toots, you earned the rest.

  44. 44.

    Laura W

    November 3, 2008 at 7:04 pm

    SNL two-hour election special tonight, 9EST.
    Ah…Obama acknowledging Toot on Tweety right now, taped a bit earlier, from Charlotte, where Scrutinizer is watching live.
    Anyway…SNL alert. I REALLY need to laugh tonight, and somehow I do not feel confident that there will be more Tubbo Tunch sightings.
    (I kid the Tunch, out of love, just like Bill Maher. My favorite cat, RIP, was known as Tubbo Walter. I adored his fluffy, white, corpulent mass. Skinny cats just don’t hold a candle. I have both.)

  45. 45.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    Less than 24 hours to go, Lou Dobb’s show has a graphic up that says "Teflon Obama". I’m feeling pretty confident now. :)

  46. 46.

    Dennis - SGMM

    November 3, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    The California GOP is a sick joke within the sick joke of the GOP in general. Over the years, California’s electoral districts have been gerrymandered into a collection of safe seats. The result is that the GOP (And to an extent, the Dems) have turned their races into a contest of who can be the most extreme, batshit-insane candidate. The loonies who are elected then proceed to gridlock the California legislature for months on end.
    The Moar You Know nailed it: there are parts of my state that could be swapped out with reddest Alabama and no one would know the difference.

  47. 47.

    That One - Cain

    November 3, 2008 at 7:14 pm

    If you want to see some real fun, you guys should read slashdot.org and watch progressive battle libertarians. There aren’t that many religious fundies there but it’s a hoot.

    IT people battling each other is always amusing. Some of them go completely batshit crazy when you mention taxes, unions or anything government related.

    slashdot.org story

    cain

  48. 48.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    November 3, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Obama can’t travel commercial; he needs to take a pack of SS agents with him, he needs to fly on a secured plane

    Because he’s worried about his anti-American Muslim terrorist socialist associates stabbing him in the back, right? WILLIAM AYERS, anyone?

  49. 49.

    Jeff

    November 3, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Steve Young posts No on 8 signs.

  50. 50.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 7:15 pm

    Hahaha! Take a look at 538. The Electoral Votes Win Percentage is so miniscule for McCain that you can’t even see any red on that pie anymore. LMAO!

  51. 51.

    JL

    November 3, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    Where are all the trolls? Have they decided that now is not the time to compete with the California Republicans?

  52. 52.

    JL

    November 3, 2008 at 7:20 pm

    OMG I just went to Sadly No and they actually had this comment

    Cancer patients usually pass away from a planned terminal sedation.
    This may be the first politically timed terminal sedation ever, though.

    I just can’t imagine that John was part of this crowd.

  53. 53.

    Incertus

    November 3, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    @Jeff: I had to check the link to be sure, but my first thought was "isn’t he a Mormon?" And professional athletes, especially the white ones, tend to skew conservative. Of course, given their salaries and their limited career expectancies, that’s a choice that makes at least economic sense, so I don’t blame them.

    But good on Young. I’ve been a Saints fan all my life, so he tore my heart out more than once, but all is forgiven now.

  54. 54.

    Jeff

    November 3, 2008 at 7:24 pm

    @Incertus: Not only Mormon, but a direct descendant of Brigham Young.

  55. 55.

    Incertus

    November 3, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    @JL:

    I just can’t imagine that John was part of this crowd.

    I came around here a bit before John’s conversion, but even at his worst, I don’t think John ever descended to this level.

  56. 56.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    WTF? Palin was said to have violated ethics protocol in the Troopergate probe and NOW the state of Alaska is saying she didn’t?

    Ummm, how did that happen?

  57. 57.

    The Dangerman

    November 3, 2008 at 7:27 pm

    What was their expectation? That he would fly commercial? Oh, yeah, that wouldn’t have been a security nightmare.

    Asshats.

  58. 58.

    Tom Ames

    November 3, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    At his "worst", John was always a thoughtful (if harsh) critic, usually of people and policies that deserved at least some criticism.

  59. 59.

    Napoleon

    November 3, 2008 at 7:29 pm

    Speaking of family values, TPM is reporting that the second troopergate report is to come out literally right now.

  60. 60.

    ninerdave

    November 3, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    The people in the California GOP are fucking garbage.

  61. 61.

    JL

    November 3, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    @Napoleon: The MSM will cover the report at midnight in order to assure that nobody will hear it before election day.

  62. 62.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    November 3, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    Speaking of cats (to lighten the mood), Tilly (my all black kitten) was outside sitting under the grill crying cause it is raining. So I went out and called her in, she came into the kitchen and then proceeded to go out the cat door and right back under the grill and cry. After FIVE (5) (yeah you read that right) times of me falling for the "crying under the grill" routine and coaxing her in I left her there. Apart from that the other cats had emptied the large bag of cat food all over the kitchen floor and left me a dead mole in the living room, that will teach ME going away for two days last week.

  63. 63.

    Pooh

    November 3, 2008 at 7:51 pm

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    Well, the first report was conducted by the legislature. The 2nd was by the state personnel board, who she hired and can, er, fire.

  64. 64.

    Napoleon

    November 3, 2008 at 7:56 pm

    @Pooh:

    That investigation was a farce.

  65. 65.

    theturtlemoves

    November 3, 2008 at 8:00 pm

    @Incertus: I’ve been lurking since before Schiavo and I have to agree. John has a self-awareness that led him out of the pit that these asshats wallow in. A prerequisite of wingnut-hood is a profound lack of self-awareness. And a cold, dark hole where your soul used to be. And this chair. And this paddle ball game. And Shithead. I guess I don’t need Shithead…

  66. 66.

    Pooh

    November 3, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    @Napoleon:

    Which one?

  67. 67.

    TheFountainHead

    November 3, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    It kan be tommorroz nau??!!

  68. 68.

    YellowJournalism

    November 3, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    My mother called to tell me that Obama’s grandmother had died. She was so touched by Obama’s relationship with his grandmother. She is actually worried about him, says he looks too tired and emotionally worn out today to campaign.

    While we were talking, she had the news on in the background and they played a clip from McCain. I don’t know what he was speaking about, because my mother all of a sudden said, "That McCain guy can shove it."

    I love my mother.

  69. 69.

    Laura W

    November 3, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    @TheFountainHead I am not exaggerating…I’ve seen the Rev. Wright commercial 8 times in the last two hours. I switched off MSNBC when it came on 20 min ago, and 2 min later it aired on CNN.
    Despair has a putrid odor.
    Ha! Finemann on KO: "McCain is going small ball here at the end."
    Howard is too polite and sexy for his shirt.

  70. 70.

    Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist

    November 3, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII: The Electoral Votes Win Percentage is so miniscule for McCain that you can’t even see any red on that pie anymore.

    That is a thing of beauty – I screen-grabbed it. I’ve screen-grabbed 538 a few times, like when Obama first went over 90%.

    Back around convention time, I was thinking I’d be happy if 538 had Obama over 60% by the time the election rolled around. I’m even happier with where it sits now. Heh.

  71. 71.

    r€nato

    November 3, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    you know what’s especially stupid about these CA GOP shenanigans?

    What’s it going to accomplish? First of all, California – Reagan’s state! – has been deep blue since Pete Wilson made the hideous mistake of climbing on the anti-immigrant bandwagon. It’s hard to think of a state in which McCain is less competitive.

    Secondly, I mean, come on… picking on the guy for flying to see his dying grandmother?

    This was just pure spite. There was no strategic upside to it whatsoever.

  72. 72.

    Tymannosourus

    November 3, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    /staring at the clock.

  73. 73.

    TheFountainHead

    November 3, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    BREAKING!!

    I JUST CONVINCED MY CONSERVATIVE McCAIN-DONATIN’ ROOMMATE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA WITH ME TOMORROW MORNIN’!!!

    W00t!! I’M HAVING A BEER BITCHES!!

  74. 74.

    r€nato

    November 3, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    I’m so excited… does it feel like Christmas Eve to any of you?

    And the anticipation of opening your presents is just killing you?

    And you know what you’re going to get already?

    And you know it’s going to be a Ferrari with Jessica Simpson in it?

    …ok maybe it’s not going to be THAT good tomorrow.

    But, pretty close.

    Now I have some idea of how McCain felt when he finally got out of his prison cell.

  75. 75.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 3, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    Howard is too polite and sexy for his shirt.

    Sounds like it may be time for an intervention for you. Howard Fineman is a power-sucking-up-to Toad. He’s in Group A up against the wall after Teh Glorious Revolution.

  76. 76.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 3, 2008 at 8:19 pm

    And how fucking hard is it to say Buh-rock like everyone else?

  77. 77.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    November 3, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    I am not exaggerating…I’ve seen the Rev. Wright commercial 8 times in the last two hours. I switched off MSNBC when it came on 20 min ago, and 2 min later it aired on CNN.

    Total saturation on cable. I have not seen local broadcast yet today, and may not, so I don’t know how that is stacking up.

    One good thing about saturation on the cable news channels is that relatively few people see those channels, and most of those people are not undecideds. I think that the Obama campaign deliberately left the opposition with low-impact time slots to buy at this point.

    As for the Wrong Commercial itself, I am at the point where I am holding myself back from smashing the tv when I see it mainly by thinking of how expensive a move that would be.

  78. 78.

    Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist

    November 3, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    @r€nato: I’m so excited… does it feel like Christmas Eve to any of you?

    Kind of, if I knew it was, say, 98.1% likely that I’d find a pony under the tree and 1.9% likely that I’d find a rabid badger.

  79. 79.

    Laura W

    November 3, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Sounds like it may be time for an intervention for you

    OK, but not till 11/10, ‘kay thanx? Give me a week to revel in the Glare of the Hopeful Now.

    Howard is too polite Toady and sexy sucky for his shirt.

    Fixt?

  80. 80.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 8:33 pm

    @r€nato:

    Now I have some idea of how McCain felt when he finally got out of his prison cell.

    OMG, two minutes before I read that I started crying, feeling like the last eight years are finally going to be over. I’ve got tears streaming down my face.

    @TheFountainHead:

    Congrats on your roommate win ;)

  81. 81.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    @Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist: Yes, it is a thing of beauty.

    @YellowJournalism: I love your mother too. ::grins::

  82. 82.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    As for the Wrong Commercial itself, I am at the point where I am holding myself back from smashing the tv when I see it mainly by thinking of how expensive a move that would be.

    TZ, relax and smile, I think the over-saturation is going to work against McCain. Look at TheFountainHead – just convinced a McCain contributor to vote for Obama. There are people out there who can be swayed against him with this bullshit. ;)

    Then look at the pie for Win Percentage on 538 and just laugh.

    I want to add, I find it incredible that the Wright attack was used previously and was unsuccessful, and this is what McCain decides to use to close out his campaign. Benign, I think.

  83. 83.

    Josh Hueco

    November 3, 2008 at 8:43 pm

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    TZ, relax and smile, I think the over-saturation is going to work against McCain. Look at TheFountainHead – just convinced a McCain contributor to vote for Obama. There are people out there who can be swayed against him with this bullshit. ;)
    Then look at the pie for Win Percentage on 538 and just laugh.

    It’s my nature to be pessimistic and to look for the worst case scenario, and I won’t believe it until BHO is sworn in on 1/20/09. But damn it feels good to be a gangsta socialist traitor baby-killer Democrat tonight.

  84. 84.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    November 3, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    You know, I think that questioning whether the use of campaign funds was proper or not is legitimate. But isn’t that a really piddling issue to play with on election eve?

    I mean, if the bullshit stories about fundraising fraud don’t have legs, why is an administrative decision about whether Obama has to write a check back to his campaign going to have legs?

  85. 85.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 3, 2008 at 8:46 pm

    I want to add, I find it incredible that the Wright attack was used previously and was unsuccessful, and this is what McCain decides to use to close out his campaign. Benign, I think.

    It’s actually fitting for a campaign whose only final shot at winning relies on the support of closet racists. Unfortunately for McCain, anyone who could have possibly been swayed by this ad was already voting for McCain.

    Edit: what I mean to suggest in the first sentence is that his only shot at winning is the "bradley" or "wilder" effect, where white people claim to be supporting the black candidate but then actually vote for the white guy. I don’t think it’s ever been proven there is such an effect, but regardless, it’s the final McCain hope.

  86. 86.

    boonagain

    November 3, 2008 at 8:48 pm

    What I found unfathomable about the Wright commercial is how it ends with a shot of Wright and Obama and, in the shot they used, Obama is beaming and is entirely unthreatening.

    If the whole point was to make him a scary black man, then why in Hell did they use a picture of him which just reinforces everyone’s impressions of him from the debate.

    Those idiots can’t even do attack ads right.

  87. 87.

    Soylent Green

    November 3, 2008 at 8:50 pm

    Not only Mormon, but a direct descendant of Brigham Young.

    Which is not that much of a stretch considering that Brigham Young had 55 wives, who bore him 57 children.

  88. 88.

    Laura W

    November 3, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    @boonagain: Airing again…8:51PM EST MSNBC. It’s almost funny at this point.
    HA HA HA!
    YOU LOSE!
    POW!

  89. 89.

    Dennis - SGMM

    November 3, 2008 at 8:53 pm

    Perhaps the best part of this campaign is, no matter what the outcome, McCain and his party emerge without a shred of dignity.

  90. 90.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Which is not that much of a stretch considering that Brigham Young had 55 wives, who bore him 57 children.

    55 wives, 57 children? There’s something seriously fucked up about those numbers. Did he only have sex with a woman once and then decide they were ruined? (Two of them had twins, I think)

  91. 91.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 8:59 pm

    Perhaps the best part of this campaign is, no matter what the outcome, McCain emerges without a shred of dignity.

    Isn’t it great? I hope he is so publicly reviled and humiliated after he returns to Arizona that he’s afraid to even go to Starbucks for lattes.

  92. 92.

    boonagain

    November 3, 2008 at 9:02 pm

    I just want this over. I’ve got nothing done all day except go from one website to another for polls and updates.

    Tok time off to get snacks for tomorrow night and then came back to the office and probably pissed off a client.

    She had sent me 3 separate emails touting right to life candidates-ie Republicans-on my business account.

    I sent her the following email:

    I appreciate your strongly held beliefs, but, IMO, this election has to be about more than one issue. Please take my email adress off your mailing list as I am a strong Obama supporter.Respectfully,boonagain

    Was that OK

  93. 93.

    boonagain

    November 3, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    It’s sweet that all their money is going down the very ineffective Wright rathole.

  94. 94.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    November 3, 2008 at 9:03 pm

    after he returns to Arizona that he’s afraid to even go to Starbucks for lattes.

    I certainly hope so. The nearest Starbucks, I think,is the one at 16th and Camelback. His condo is right around the corner.

    The last thing I want to do is run into the bastard over there when I am headed to McDonalds for a Big Mac.

  95. 95.

    Dennis - SGMM

    November 3, 2008 at 9:04 pm

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:
    I have never, in sixty years, seen anyone sell himself out so comprehensively.

  96. 96.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 3, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    @boonagain: Was that OK?

    I guess you didn’t have any way of shipping her a severed fetus head?

  97. 97.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 9:05 pm

    Was that OK

    Careful if your job is really important to you, a gun factory owner has been forced to resign for less.

  98. 98.

    boonagain

    November 3, 2008 at 9:06 pm

    Wasn’t there a story earlier in the campaign about the McCain’s trailing the whole Secret Service entourage for Starbucks runs? Did I hallucinate that?

  99. 99.

    Tsulagi

    November 3, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    @r€nato:

    And you know it’s going to be a Ferrari with Jessica Simpson in it?

    Jessica Simpson? Yuk. Change that to pre-Brad Pitt Angelina Jolie then I would see starbursts.

  100. 100.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 9:11 pm

    Hey, I just saw Obama’s TaxCutFact.org (paid for by Barack Obama for America) ad with the calculator to see how much you’d get back in taxes under his plan. A woman making twice as much as I normally would was shown to get back $1000. :) WOW

  101. 101.

    CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII

    November 3, 2008 at 9:18 pm

    I missed this from Kos, but I guess it’s just because I have a visceral dislike for Dana Bash (that woman is very hard to look at):

    Dana Bash on the declining morale inside McCain-land:

    The mantra inside camp McCain is that polls are tightening, but privately McCain advisers admit winning would be nothing short of a miracle.

    (Her report was broadcast just after 4PM Pacific.)

    and now I just heard Karen Hughes say McCain has a very difficult task and she doesn’t expect him to win.

    Looking better and better.

  102. 102.

    Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist

    November 3, 2008 at 9:26 pm

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII: 55 wives, 57 children? There’s something seriously fucked up about those numbers.

    The worst thing about the big Mormon families here in Utah is how all the kids have such weird names.

  103. 103.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    November 3, 2008 at 9:29 pm

    That woman proves, once again, that she is a complete asshole. A smarmy, thin-skinned, hypocritical, vicious asshole who deserves to be sent home to play with the huskies.

    At a Sarah Palin rally here tonight, country music star Hank Williams, Jr. took the stage to sing the national anthem … “You know, I’m usually at ‘Monday Night Football’ tonight, but Colorado, this is a lot more important tonight,” Williams, Jr. said. “Join me now in our national—you know, that song that, uh, Mr. Obama’s not real crazy about, we’re singing it right now.”

    The crowd cheered, and Williams, Jr. sang the national anthem. … Palin then stepped up to the microphone and defended Williams Jr.’s right to free speech.

    "We want to take a minute here to thank Hank Williams Jr.,” Palin said. “Over the past couple of months he has traveled with us. He and his most beautiful family stops all along the way this campaign trail. Now this is the last rally that we get to do together, and he’s been just a great inspiration—never one to hide his opinion or be afraid to share it. Hey, he exercises those First Amendment rights. We love him! Yes. So we want to thank Hank and we are going to see him tomorrow night on the other side of victory, my friend."

    Though Paln defended Williams Jr.’s rights, she said nothing to the crowd to disabuse the crooner’s notion that Obama isn’t fond of the national anthem. Palin has, however, previously said that she is sure Obama loves his country and doesn’t doubt his patriotism.

  104. 104.

    Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist

    November 3, 2008 at 9:30 pm

    @Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse: Palin has, however, previously said that she is sure Obama loves his country and doesn’t doubt his patriotism.

    Followed, no doubt, by one of those trademark winks.

  105. 105.

    Laura W

    November 3, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    @boonagain:

    Was that OK

    Um….you were pretty much saintly as far as I can tell.
    Here was my response to a woman who barely knows me. She made the mistake of thinking it was appropriate to include me in her "Send to All" address book group list and forwarded an absurd email to me on the wrong night at the exact wrong time. (*See below.) I’d been pimping my art at an outdoor show all weekend, was really spent and tired of smiling and making chit chat, and was one adult beverage into my unwinding when she rang in:

    Doris, I am voting for Obama. McCain/Palin are disgusting and dishonorable.
    I never watch Fox news, and never will.
    Please don’t forward me Republican propaganda. It’s racist bullshit.
    Laura

    We had another set of passes at each other, in person and in email, but I’ll spare you because I am sure they are not unlike any that you all have endured in the last two years.

    *SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK
    OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM. HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS. HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA’S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc., HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES! HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA’S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE. THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE. HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~ SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM. HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN’S, WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!! WAKE UP AMERICA!! THIS IS SERIOUS,EVERYONE. I KNOW MOST OF YOU WATCH FOX NEWS, AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR, BUT IF YOU CAN, PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW. THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY. MY PRAYER IS THAT WE, ALONG WITH SEAN HANNITY, WILL REACH SOMEONE/ANYONE BEFORE NOV. 4th. WE MUST NOT GIVE UP!!!! GOD BLESS!!

  106. 106.

    Comrade Jake

    November 3, 2008 at 9:44 pm

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    I want to add, I find it incredible that the Wright attack was used previously and was unsuccessful, and this is what McCain decides to use to close out his campaign. Benign, I think.

    I’m pretty sure the ad’s not going to make a damn bit of difference. Not that many people view Obama as a risky/scary black man/America hater at this stage, and rightfully so. It just looks like desperation on the GOP’s part at this point. This stuff was most powerful when it first came out, and Obama dealt with it. Now it seems like pretty weak sauce.

    Still, there are a good number of folks who seem to think the GOP didn’t use Wright enough. I’m pretty sure these are the same people who think Palin’s a shoe-in for 2012. Good luck to them.

  107. 107.

    Tattoosydney

    November 3, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    @Comrade Jake:

    Fuck. me. No, actually, fuck them….

    Obama told MTV he believes marriage is “between a man and a woman” and that he is “not in favor of gay marriage.”

    At the same time, Obama reiterated his opposition to Proposition 8, the California ballot measure which would eliminate a right to same-sex marriage that the state’s Supreme Court recently recognized.

    “I’ve stated my opposition to this. I think it’s unnecessary,” Obama told MTV. “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that’s not what America’s about.”
    ….

    A vote for Obama aids and abets the gratuitous gay bashing of a representative of a Party that has traditionally defended our rights and freedoms. If we desire to ensure LGBT will have a voice in the Democratic Party, we will reject Barack Obama. It is really that simple.

    It just goes to show that my people can be as fucking stupid and deluded as anyone else…

    Saying that you oppose Prop 8, and yet do not support gay marriage (as opposed to civil unions of some sort) is not triangulating. It is expressing a considered view – suggesting that Obama takes the same view as some of us on here, that arguing about "marriage" is a distraction which actually gets in the way of achieving substantive equality between gay and straight "civil unions".

    Regardless of whether you agree with that, or feel that "marriage" is a necessity, the mindset that would allow you to think that a Republican (who on all the evidence would follow policies which diminish gays and lesbian rights) is better than a Democrat who takes a nuanced approach to every issue staggers me.

    Fucking idiots.

  108. 108.

    kommrade jakevich

    November 3, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    @ninerdave: I pity the poor garbage.

  109. 109.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    November 3, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Saying that you oppose Prop 8, and yet do not support gay marriage (as opposed to civil unions of some sort) is not triangulating. It is expressing a considered view – suggesting that Obama takes the same view as some of us on here, that arguing about "marriage" is a distraction which actually gets in the way of achieving substantive equality between gay and straight "civil unions".

    Regardless of whether you agree with that, or feel that "marriage" is a necessity, the mindset that would allow you to think that a Republican (who on all the evidence would follow policies which diminish gays and lesbian rights) is better than a Democrat who takes a nuanced approach to every issue staggers me.

    Not often that I see a post in here on this subject with which I agree 101% …but here is one.

    Fine post.

  110. 110.

    Comrade Jake

    November 3, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    I just spent a few minutes reading comments over at NoIQ. There’s no need for any of the rest of you to venture over there. I can attest that they’re all batshit fucking crazy.

  111. 111.

    cain

    November 3, 2008 at 10:20 pm

    @CIRCVS MAXIMVS MMVIII:

    55 wives, 57 children? There’s something seriously fucked up about those numbers. Did he only have sex with a woman once and then decide they were ruined? (Two of them had twins, I think)

    He’s just showing to the muslims that he can have 55 virgins right here in God’s green earth and you don’t have to die; you need the right religion!

    cain

  112. 112.

    kommrade jakevich

    November 3, 2008 at 10:23 pm

    No1/4: Concerned troll, or most concerned troll evar?

    A vote for Obama aids and abets the gratuitous gay bashing of a representative of a Party that has traditionally defended our rights and freedoms. If we desire to ensure LGBT will have a voice in the Democratic Party, we will reject Barack Obama. It is really that simple.

    Something’s simple all right. Like those wanks give a flaming fuck. If they run a post between now and 12 pm EST, in which they exhort African-Americans to reject Obama because he isn’t black enough, I would not be surprised even a teeny bit.

    And weren’t they supposed to produce a tape of some sort?

  113. 113.

    Tymannosourus

    November 3, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    I just gave my father in law 10-to-1 odds on our election bet. Best dollar that I will have ever made.

  114. 114.

    Comrade Jake

    November 3, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Meanwhile, I hardly recognize TalkLeft. I don’t know how Jeralyn eventually voted, but her posts certainly don’t harbor any remaining HRC bitterness.

  115. 115.

    Lesley

    November 3, 2008 at 10:36 pm

    For a long time, moderate conservatives have buried their heads in the sand; believed their party hadn’t been overtaken by the fringe-monsters of the ribs, bucket, and watermelon variety. Those who have been paying attention during the election campaign have realized that’s exactly what’s happened.

    McCain has not distanced himself from the "souls that, crablike, crawl continually toward darkness, going backward in life rather than advancing, using their experience to increase their deformity, growing continually worse, and becoming steeped more and more thoroughly in the intensifying viciousness but invited them in. He’s promising to perpetuate more of the crazy and the Cheney. Many moderate conservatives are voting for Obama because they feel alienated and disgusted with the direction of the party they’ve voted for – perhaps out of habit and loyalty – for years. Their vote for Obama is a vote against what the R has become.

  116. 116.

    Tattoosydney

    November 3, 2008 at 10:37 pm

    @TheHatOnMyCat:

    *blush*

    Thanks.

    I’m sitting here in Australia, feeling hopeful (and slightly nervous).

    I can’t speak for the rest of the world, but I can tell you that in Australia there is a palpable excitement. I have been invited to four separate election night drinks (Wednesday night, Sydney time – by which time it is likely (FSM willing) that the election will have been called for Obama). In 2000 and 2004, there were none.

    On the basis of my anecdotal experience, support for Obama here entirely crosses political lines. I have spoken to so many hard core Liberal Party supporters (our Liberal Party is the party of John Howard, who spent most of his time as PM with his nose inserted into W’s anatomy) who wholeheartedly support Obama as the only rational choice….

    I don’t think Australia is unique. When I was in Singapore and Amsterdam and Lisbon, wearing an Obama t-shirt was a sure trigger to five or six total strangers each day stopping me in the street to voice support…

    I think we are all as hopeful as you are, and grateful to those of you who have been able to work on the ground to make what I hope happens tomorrow happen.

  117. 117.

    jcricket

    November 3, 2008 at 10:48 pm

    It’s hard to think of a state in which McCain is less competitive.

    Obama is poised to win California with the biggest margin since FDR in 1936. Obama is poised to win Virginia, a state that hasn’t voted for a Dem for President in 44 years. Obama is quite possibly going to win Indiana, Montana and/or North Dakota.

    So in blue states he’s blowing them away. In light red states he’s turning them blue. And in some red states, he’s swinging things 15-20 percentage points into the Democratic direction.

    In other news – NM is going to go from 2-3 Democrat (house seats) to 5-0 Democrat, with two democratic senators and a democratic governor. You don’t get that kind of change by accident.

    He’s changed the game, and Republicans will either be playing catchup for a while or running down the field the wrong way (go ahead, nominate Palin).

    I was a mildly enthusiastic Obama support (I supported Hillary for quite some time). There was never a chance I would vote Republican. But I’ve become a true believer that Dems are going to sweep, riding in on Obama’s coattails (with a little "fortune" thrown in courtesy of real-world events – luck favors the prepared, and all that.).

    I think, pessimistically we win the presidency by 3% (300 electoral), 20 house seats and 5 senate seats. Realistically (middle), 25 house seats, presidency by 5% (330 electoral) and 7 senate seats. Optimistically, 35 house seats, presidency by 8 (380+ electoral) and 59 senate seats.

    You can guess where I’m hoping we land.

  118. 118.

    Charity

    November 3, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    @Tattoosydney: Seriously, I get what he is saying. Just because Obama personally is not in favor of gay marriage he does not see a reason to forbid the possibility to thousands of people.

    Cuz he’s not an enormous ASSHOLE.

    RIP, Mrs. Dunham. Thank you for your grandson. Please let Jeebus know which way to vote tomorrow.

  119. 119.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    November 3, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    Okay, it’s Election Day.

    I am officially a nervous fucking wreck.

    I am getting up at the crack of dawn to vote as early as possible.

    Good luck to all with your Election Day activities.

    Let this be the Day Hell Ended.

  120. 120.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    November 3, 2008 at 11:19 pm

    Oh, I forgot about Standard Time. 40 minutes to Election Day.

  121. 121.

    kommrade jakevich

    November 3, 2008 at 11:30 pm

    @TheHatOnMyCat: 31 …

    And yes, I am about to put my voter notification card on the bed table and will wake up to check on it a few times in the night.

  122. 122.

    Darkrose

    November 3, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    @Tattoosydney: I’m so over the purity patrol queers whining about how Obama won’t come out and say that he absolutely and fully supports same-sex marriage. Do I wish he would? Sure. But for Dog’s sake, people, there are other issues on the table–and the fact is that the man wants to get elected.

    (Also note that HRC had pretty much the identical position to Obama. And the Big Dog is the one who gifted us with DOMA to distract from his own penis problems.)

  123. 123.

    Tattoosydney

    November 3, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    I’m hoping Al is right…

    Good luck tomorrow.

  124. 124.

    Bey

    November 3, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    @kommrade jakevich: Dang. You choked me up there jake.

  125. 125.

    Tattoosydney

    November 3, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    @Darkrose:

    The thing that amazes me is that there seems to be an expectation (rather than merely a hope) among some in our GLBTQwhatever community that expects that someone will pass a law and everything will be equal.

    It has been 145 years from the second Emancipation Proclamation to the point where a black man might (in the next 48 hours) become president of the United States. Women were granted the vote in the US in 1920 (and in Australia in 1902), and yet women are still systematically disadvantaged by our societies (albeit to a much lesser degree).

    It took time to get to where we are now, and in the mean time our governments had to deal with other issues on the table like two World Wars, and the odd Depression.

    Stonewall was 1969, and yet some people think that anyone who would accept anything less than full equality now is a traitor.

    We take the fights we can win, and we work with the people who are willing to help us in those fights. If it takes less than 145 years (and I suspect it will) then we’re ahead.

  126. 126.

    Fulcanelli

    November 4, 2008 at 12:09 am

    It’s hard to think of a state in which McCain is less competitive.

    It’s tiny, but Rhode Island. It’ll be bluer than a Palin lovin’ male college student’s nut sack.

    We were treated to the Wright ad about a dozen times this evening. Such a satisfying feeling watching the GOP waste so much money donated by the vile, soulless pricks which are left among its ranks.

    Such a profound tragedy, Obama’s grandmother passing today, but her work was finished and complete. I truly believed she knew he’d make it.

    The struggle, the sacrifice, the Obama story is poised to take it’s rightful place among the many rich, great success stories that are a part of the American mythology, forever with a life of it’s own.

    It’s is our time.

    Yes. We. Did.

  127. 127.

    Tattoosydney

    November 4, 2008 at 12:09 am

    @ Darkrose:

    Dammit! I changed my email and now I am in moderation (and Cole is probably in bed).

    Excuse me if I revert to my old email and repost…

    The thing that amazes me is that there seems to be an expectation (rather than merely a hope) among some in our GLBTQwhatever community that expects that someone will pass a law and everything will be equal.

    It has been 145 years from the second Emancipation Proclamation to the point where a black man might (in the next 48 hours) become president of the United States. Women were granted the vote in the US in 1920 (and in Australia in 1902), and yet women are still systematically disadvantaged by our societies (albeit to a much lesser degree).

    It took time to get to where we are now, and in the mean time our governments had to deal with other issues on the table like two World Wars, and the odd Depression.

    Stonewall was 1969, and yet some people think that anyone who would accept anything less than full equality now is a traitor.

    We take the fights we can win, and we work with the people who are willing to help us in those fights. If it takes less than 145 years (and I suspect it will) then we’re ahead.

    Further, to justify the repost… (much as I hate to link to the GOS), this also.

    And yet, we can do nothing, any of us lost Britkids, and that’s the worst part. It makes no sense to me. In hurricanes and fires and days of crisis there are a thousand different charities fighting to get to me, to break my heart with tales of suffering and siphon away my student loan through my tears. But when the world is on the brink of being changed from the powerless norm that is all I’ve ever known, I cannot donate a single penny. Because this election is yours and only yours, the websites tell me. Rubbish. It’s ours too, and yet no-one will accept that.

    I’ll be staying up on election night. But that’s a pointless gesture, a meaningless sacrifice. I just find it so hard to face the fact that this election is so completely out of my hands.

    Dear Americans, then, whom I have never met, and yet whom I love with all my heart. This is my plea to you. Do it for me. Get out the vote with every bit of strength you have.

    Do what we cannot, myself and my friends and all the other Britkids from a thousand different backgrounds, who wait and hope. Because we may not be your fellow citizens, but we are your honorary fellow liberals. And we’re with you.

  128. 128.

    Perry Como

    November 4, 2008 at 12:11 am

    Dixville notch just voted for Obama, 15-6.

  129. 129.

    Tattoosydney

    November 4, 2008 at 12:19 am

    @Perry Como:

    Compared to the past votes, that’s kind of impressive…

    1996 – General Election: (28 voters)
    * Robert J. Dole – 18
    * William J. Clinton – 8
    * H. Ross Perot – 1
    * Harry Browne – 1

    2000 – General Election: (27 votes)

    * George W. Bush – 21
    * Albert A. Gore Jr. – 5
    * Ralph Nader – 1

    2004 – General Election: (26 voters, 9 using absentee ballots)[2]

    * George W. Bush – 19
    * John Kerry – 7

    2008 – General Election: (21 voters)

    * Barack Obama – 15
    * John McCain – 6

    Something has stirred in Dixville Notch in the last four years.

  130. 130.

    TheHatOnMyCat

    November 4, 2008 at 12:25 am

    Dixville notch just voted for Obama, 15-6.

    It’s over.

  131. 131.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    November 4, 2008 at 12:27 am

    But what about Hart’s Location?

    And somewhere out there, Sully is weeping.

    After weeks of requests, the McCain-Palin campaign released a letter late Monday night from Sarah Palin’s doctor pronouncing the Republican vice presidential nominee in "excellent health" with "no known health problems." Dr. Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, who had been Palin’s physician at the Mat-Su Regional Medical Center since 1997, also said the Alaska governor had had a 1992 biopsy for a breast lesion that was found to be benign. She said Palin was on no routine prescription medications, with no known drug allergies, but that no screening tests for heart disease had been performed because those tests were not routine for “young healthy women with no risk factors.”

  132. 132.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    November 4, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Oh, and Obama drew 90,000 in Manassas tonight.

  133. 133.

    Indylib

    November 4, 2008 at 12:43 am

    @Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse:

    A smarmy, thin-skinned, hypocritical, vicious asshole who deserves to be sent home to play with the huskies.

    That would be husky abuse.

    She needs to be sent home and forced to have a face to face discussion with the polar bears about their status on the endangered species list.

  134. 134.

    Tattoosydney

    November 4, 2008 at 12:45 am

    @Tattoosydney:

    Compared to the past votes, that’s kind of impressive…

    Australian with little previous awareness of Dixville Notch’s prior voting record reads Wikipedia article in its entirety, and revises view…

    That’s fucking impressive.

  135. 135.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    November 4, 2008 at 12:50 am

    Woo-hoo from Hart’s Location!!

    Obama: 17
    McCain: 10
    Ron Paul: 2 (write-in)
    Bob Barr: 0
    Ralph Nader: 0

    Gotta love that whiteboard.

  136. 136.

    Delia

    November 4, 2008 at 1:19 am

    The goopers have been playing the Rev. Wright ad in heavy rotation on MSNBC in Oregon today. Which is insane. Well over 50% of the population has turned in their ballots and one of the documented issues that irritated voters about both candidates in the senatorial campaign was their negative TV ads.

    Barack has been running his Paul Simon American Tune ad a lot lately here. I think this one is great.

  137. 137.

    Martin

    November 4, 2008 at 1:21 am

    in Oregon today.

    It’s national. It’s running in every market. We see it every hour or so here in CA, which McCain is going to lose by about 107%.

  138. 138.

    Comrade Kevin

    November 4, 2008 at 1:26 am

    @Delia:

    That is a good ad, Delia. It was not produced by the Obama campaign, though, if you see what is said at the end of it.

    I was inundated with that odious Wright ad on MSNBC this evening as well, in California.

  139. 139.

    Comrade Kevin

    November 4, 2008 at 1:29 am

    On another subject, I do like the Samuel L. "Bad Motherfucker" Jackson No On 8 ad. It lays out the historical pedigree of the Yes on 8 people.

  140. 140.

    Delia

    November 4, 2008 at 1:33 am

    And a friend just sent round this Obama music video in the faith and hope of a good outcome tomorrow.

  141. 141.

    Tattoosydney

    November 4, 2008 at 1:41 am

    @Delia:

    Dammit. You made me cry.

  142. 142.

    Comrade Kevin

    November 4, 2008 at 1:43 am

    @Delia:

    that’s another great video, Delia!

  143. 143.

    Comrade Nikolita

    November 4, 2008 at 1:48 am

    It’s probably been mentioned already, but if the GOP could spend $150k on Palin’s wardrobe, it should be fair game for Obama to visit his dying grandmother. Nevermind that a family deed like that is the right thing to do, but new clothes are optional.

    I can’t remember who said it, but after the primaries were over, I remember someone saying McCain was going to make Hillary’s campaign look like puppies and rainbows, or something like that. And they were right. Wow, that was a really, really sleazy campaign by McCain.

  144. 144.

    r€nato

    November 4, 2008 at 2:11 am

    I appreciate your strongly held beliefs, but, IMO, this election has to be about more than one issue. Please take my email adress off your mailing list as I am a strong Obama supporter.Respectfully,boonagain

    being a believer in the power of snark, my reply probably would have read more like this:

    "Dear Madam: I appreciate your strongly-held beliefs, but, IMO, this election has to be about more than one issue. That’s why I am a strong Obama supporter; I support his agenda of taxing the shit out of mandatory gay marriages and mandatory abortions for Bible-thumping wackjobs. Respectfully yours…"

  145. 145.

    Delia

    November 4, 2008 at 2:46 am

    Well, I really should just turn off my computer and go to bed, but now I keep finding more Obama videos. Speaking of actual family values, here’s a clever one filled with cute kids.

  146. 146.

    iluvsummr

    November 4, 2008 at 2:49 am

    @Delia: Thanks for sharing that – made me tear up (especially around the MLK part).

  147. 147.

    Dennis - SGMM

    November 4, 2008 at 3:05 am

    So, McCain’s closing argument isn’t about why you should vote for him, it’s about why you shouldn’t vote for Obama. Welcome to the dustbin of history, John Sydney. It’s yawning wide for you and for that vicious little rodent from Alaska.

  148. 148.

    bago

    November 4, 2008 at 3:35 am

    Megalomaniacal and harder than the rest.

  149. 149.

    Gravenstone

    November 4, 2008 at 4:55 am

    Coming rather late to the party tonight (sneaking in from work). Yeah, the push buys of the Rev. Wright ads were loathesome, but I have to admit there was one aspect of the ad that made me chuckle after I first caught it.

    They have the Wright quote "not God Bless America, but God Damn America." featured prominently (shocking, I know). What was amusing (to me anyway) was they did not bleep the first iteration of God, but did so on the second. Seriously? They were that *worried* about context that they selectively bleeped a reference to the second variation of the FSM? **boggle**

    Yeah, watching clowns like the ones behind that ad, and everything they purport to stand for about to go down in flames within the next 24 hours has a certain pleasant tang to it.

  150. 150.

    bedlam UK

    November 4, 2008 at 5:01 am

    Considering how badly McCains Season has gone, and how people have mostly rejected the idea of this dirty, lying campaign, I do wonder if in 4 years time, the GOP will have re-branded themselves, and kicked out the fundies.
    With the pain of remembering the massive failure of these awful tactics and the power of the internet to fact-check and re-run lies and statements, they may realise that they need to run a ‘real’ campaign and have to find the issues that really matter and that they actually believe in, rather than any hook they find that day.

    If Obama has had a successful term, and runs a clean re-election bid would they run an equally clean campaign in fear of another awful fiasco?

    This election could mark the end of these tactics, or alternatively, Sarah Palin could run a 3rd Party, the Christian Coalition against Intelligence, and all the dirty / evil / stuupids can go there, leaving 2 intelligent parties to work to make your country better by being the watchers and counter-balances to the party in power.

    Nah, its Palin / Plumber 2012

  151. 151.

    Conservatively Liberal

    November 4, 2008 at 5:19 am

    When I heard this news I felt sick inside. It doesn’t help that I came down with a nasty cold last night (Sunday) as it just made it feel worse. I really really wanted his Grandmother to see what she, her husband and their daughter had accomplished in Barack. I am not one for prayer but I was really hoping that his Grandmother could hold on at least until the election was over so she could see her Grandson reach the pinnacle of success in American politics, but it was not to be.

    Obama sacrificed seeing her in her last days of her life for us, the people of America, and I am sure that Toot wouldn’t have had it any other way. Just saying the above brings tears to my eyes and I am one staid SOB who rarely tears up.

    I would say more but I all I can say is:

    Thank you Madelyn. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Rest in peace.

    Regarding the sick animals on the right who are making hay with this, I will save my comments for another thread. This death touches too close to home for me and I really can’t say much more than that right now. It took me this long to comment here for that reason.

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