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What She Said

by John Cole|  November 11, 20084:29 pm| 47 Comments

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This is win on so many levels. Can I be an honorary “Jane Hamsher of the left?”

By the way, I am exceptionally cranky this afternoon. In case you missed it.

And while we are at it, what he said. Nothing infuriates me more than reading the syrupy odes to our vets from the wankosphere, when they couldn’t give a shit about them and any time they get in their way, they viciously attack them.

*** Update ***

This, on the other hand, is just too damned funny:

How quickly Palin forgets who brought her to the nation’s attention. It was a conservative blogger who lived in his parents’ basement.

University of Colorado-Colorado Springs student and right wing blogger Adam Brickley was given credit for being the first to envision Palin as a Republican vice-presidential candidate via his website: http://www.palinforvp.blogspot.com/.

Sarah and Todd Palin personally called to thank Brickley after she was selected as McCain’s running mate. Brickley gained national media attention for his successful Palin VP lobbying and here is his appearance on the Colbert Report. The interview starts around 6:00 minute mark of the video.

That deserves two “Heh, indeedy’s” with a twisting dismount.

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  1. 1.

    Juan del Llano

    November 11, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Can I be an honorary “Jane Hamsher of the left?”

    Done! :-)

    And I don’t think you’re nearly cranky enough, so roll with it. BTW, the comments interface is acting up. That should be good for a little more crank.

  2. 2.

    demimondian

    November 11, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    What, you have a Ph.D. in communications on top of several years of service in the Army? I think almost any movement would be glad to claim you.

  3. 3.

    John Cole

    November 11, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    @demimondian: Actually, I am ABD. One of these days I will finish it…

  4. 4.

    jrg

    November 11, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Ms. Palin directed most of her media criticism at liberal bloggers, whom she twice called, “those bloggers in their parents’ basement just talkin’ garbage.

    Palin then added, "Can’t bloggers be just like normal teen-agers… Torturing animals, and having unprotected sex?"

  5. 5.

    Cruel Jest

    November 11, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Honestly? I’m with 95% of all satirists who fear for their careers now that the Fools are out of power. Bush and Palin alone sure put a lot of food on families.

  6. 6.

    Shygetz

    November 11, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    @Cruel Jest: Are you kidding me? The wingnuts were KILLING satire with reality. Satirists have been granted a huge reprieve.

  7. 7.

    Comrade Stuck

    November 11, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Ms. Palin directed most of her media criticism at liberal bloggers, whom she twice called, “those bloggers in their parents’ basement just talkin’ garbage.”

    Now Sarah, as you well know, or not, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And somebody has to talk garbage since there’s so much of it with all the empty Cheeto Bags in the can. If you really want to be Madame President Sarah, your going to have to bone up on your "Internet Traditions" or else you’ll wind up like your pal JoeMentum.

  8. 8.

    TheFountainHead

    November 11, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    You seem to be under the impression that being a garbage spewing low-life in your mother’s basement is mutually exclusive of being a liberal east coast elitist.

    Have you not met these people?

    I mean Goldberg wrote a book called "Liberal Fascism" for Christ’s sake! They are walking, breathing, shitting paradoxes. Why would a paradox bother them?

  9. 9.

    jake 4 that 1

    November 11, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Are we sure she isn’t talking about her fans?

  10. 10.

    NonyNony

    November 11, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    @Shygetz: Perhaps we’ll reach a point where satirists can safely say "there, that’s outrageous enough to be unbelievable".

    These last 8 years there have been far, far too many times where we played "guess the source" where one person reads off a headline or quote from somebody and everyone else tries to figure out if they were from a real media source or the Onion. CNN read amazingly like the Onion some days (and not just during silly political season either).

  11. 11.

    Llelldorin

    November 11, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Actually, I am ABD. One of these days I will finish it…

    Woot! ABDs represent!

    (He said, before going back to his @#$#@ balky numerical code that doesn’t feel like working again…)

  12. 12.

    mgordon

    November 11, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Does this count as irony?

    Adam Brickley explains how he influenced the direction of American politics from his mom’s house.

    Forward to 8:10

  13. 13.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    November 11, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    ABD == All But Done?

  14. 14.

    smiley

    November 11, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    It took me two years ABD to finally get mine done. I was so relieved to have successfully defended (not that there was ever any doubt) and making more money than I ever had before, that I just, I guess, tried to have fun and ingore that there was still work to be done. Take my word for it, it’s worth it: GET IT DONE! You too Llelldorin. My school had a statute of limitations on this (seven years I think) so check with your university about that.

  15. 15.

    John S.

    November 11, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Actually, I am ABD.

    Then you may officially title yourself as:

    John Cole, Ph.D (ABD)

    Edit: For those inquiring, ABD = All But Dissertation

  16. 16.

    Joshau Norton

    November 11, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Actually, I am ABD

    What is the D going to be about? Are you using us as your research?

  17. 17.

    smiley

    November 11, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    @Grumpy Code Monkey:

    ABD = All but dissertation.

  18. 18.

    smiley

    November 11, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    @John S.: @Joshau Norton:

    Damn we’re fast.

  19. 19.

    Polish the Guillotines

    November 11, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    Semi-OT: Speaking of Firedoglake, I think it’s teh awesome that emptywheel’s been posting here. She was hands-down the strongest force of intrepidy intrepidiness when it came to reporting/blogging on the Plame-Libby dog and pony show.

    Her live blogs from the courtroom were my favorite daily read.

    Just sayin’.

  20. 20.

    Cruel Jest

    November 11, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    @Shygetz: My turn to ask: Are you kidding me? The shit wrote itself. Writers at the Daily Show could stumble in around noon, line up a tape of Palin speaking, tell Jon to make a face and POOF!: paycheck. They’re going to have to work for it now.

  21. 21.

    jrg

    November 11, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Check out these stats on median internet speed by state. I dumped the table at the bottom of the page into excel and sorted it by download speed rank in descending order. The bottom ten:

    Alaska
    South Dakota
    West Virginia
    Wyoming
    Iowa
    North Dakota
    Montana
    Idaho
    Utah
    Arkansas

    The GOP is going to be in even deeper shit if they don’t figure out that having bloggers, supporters and donors online is a good thing.

  22. 22.

    smiley

    November 11, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    BTW, John, I know from experience that you probably hear what I wrote @14 all the time. I wasn’t trying to be critical, just encouraging.

  23. 23.

    John Cole

    November 11, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    @Polish the Guillotines: I need to add Emptywheel, alicublog, and atrios to the links.

    Someone remind me some time.

  24. 24.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    November 11, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    @smiley:

    Ah. That makes a lot more sense.

  25. 25.

    Porco Rosso

    November 11, 2008 at 5:51 pm

    Are you sure she wasn’t referring to the "Draft Palin" bloggers?

  26. 26.

    smiley

    November 11, 2008 at 5:53 pm

    When I first read this post, my initial reaction was to say that Jane could have gone a lot deeper into the blogosphere to make her point. I think many or most of the top tier bloggers on both sides have advanced degrees. Big deal. The problem isn’t academic background. The problem is ideology. I’m out (for now).

  27. 27.

    jake 4 that 1

    November 11, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    If you ask us to call you Dr. Cole once you finish we’ll leave flaming bags of crap on your doorstep.

  28. 28.

    jon

    November 11, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    Adult Basement Dwellers unite!

  29. 29.

    Cruel Jest

    November 11, 2008 at 6:04 pm

    @jon: I just did a line of Cheetoes dust in your honor.

  30. 30.

    comrade rawshark

    November 11, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    To the people who listen to her mouth noises she just threw blogs under tha bus. Another institution destroyed. Try using the ‘I read it on a blog’ argument with a winger after this.
    Learned it in school? Liberal professor or liberal arts education.
    Read it in a book? Pshaw, I could write a book.
    Read it in the newspaper? Newspapers are well known for being liberal.
    Your priest or your gut are the only acceptable sources of knowledge.

  31. 31.

    phobos

    November 11, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    Chris Matthews asked Ron Christie to name a single state Palin delivered that McCain would have lost otherwise.

    Christie apparently had no talking point to address this. Even Smerconish mocked his response.

    I keep wondering how Alaskans will react to their Governor being a starstruck, self-promoting media whore for the next four years.

  32. 32.

    demimondian

    November 11, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    @jon: FTW

  33. 33.

    les

    November 11, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    I keep wondering how Alaskans will react to their Governor being a starstruck, self-promoting media whore for the next four years.

    Easy; they’ll send her to Washington to finish Stevens’ term.

  34. 34.

    Comrade Stuck

    November 11, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    How quickly Palin forgets who brought her to the nation’s attention. It was a conservative blogger who lived in his parents’ basement.

    Sarah Palin –Queen of Irony

    High Sheriff of FAIL

  35. 35.

    DrDave

    November 11, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    How would Sarah feel if someone called her an ignorant, freeloading bubble headed piece of trailer park trash whose daddy told the AP she spent the weekend scrambling to return her stolen clothes to the RNC?

    She wouldn’t know how to feel because she IS an ignorant, freeloading bubble headed piece of trailer park trash.

    Snarkiest line of the day. Maureen Dowd was interviewed on MSNBC early this afternoon. She was asked how she felt about Sarah Palin telling Greta van Sustern that she was praying about 2012 and Dowd answered, "I’m praying about 2012 too; that Sarah Palin gets back here as soon as possible."

  36. 36.

    Ash Can

    November 11, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    @jake 4 that 1:

    we’ll leave flaming bags of crap on your doorstep.

    Don’t we do that already?

    @comrade rawshark:

    Your priest witchdoctor snake-oil preacher in the gated mansion on the hill or your gut are the only acceptable sources of knowledge.

    Editated to reflect the possibility that a priest might actually talk sense to a winger, especially if he’s a Franciscan or Jesuit.

  37. 37.

    nicethugbert

    November 11, 2008 at 7:21 pm

    People still listen to this clown?

  38. 38.

    skippy

    November 11, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    when i first read this post, my initial reaction was to say that jane could have gone a lot deeper into the blogosphere to make her point.

    i wondered, hey, what’s skippy? chopped liver?

  39. 39.

    gbear

    November 11, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    ABD = Audible But Deadly

  40. 40.

    Incertus

    November 11, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    @John Cole: At least you’re not one of those MFA people.

    Wait…

  41. 41.

    Lee Hartmann

    November 11, 2008 at 8:28 pm

    John, based on your capacity to rethink initial positions based on evidence, I don’t know if you are a Jane Hamsher, but you are a scientist, which is the highest accolade I can give you. My respects.

    even if you are a Steeler fan.

  42. 42.

    John Cole

    November 11, 2008 at 9:51 pm

    @Incertus: I know you are just joking around, but I still feel the instinctive need to defend these folks. At most of the schools I have been and have more than a passing experience with, the MFA is a solid degree. These people work extremely hard, they earn shit for money unless they have a stroke of luck, they generally love what they are doing, they know what they are talking about, and our culture is much, much richer for them. You will never catching me degrading these folks.

    But then again, I am a faggy liberal type these days (or maybe always), and I love what they have to offer. My life is considerably richer because of the local plays, local art showings, local poetry readings, and local concerts.

    If you ask me, I will take an MFA over a lawyer or an insurance agent or an MBA or someone with a “real” degree any damned day of the week. I know who has made my life better.

  43. 43.

    Tsulagi

    November 11, 2008 at 10:02 pm

    This, on the other hand, is just too damned funny:

    Okay, you have a wingnut visionary in his mom’s basement in the heart of Dobson’s Jesus country. Promoting a witchcraft-cleansed, Fargo-accented hockey mom careful to apply lipstick to distinguish herself from a pit bull who’s keeping a vigil making sure Putin himself doesn’t secretly walk over an ice bridge capturing Alaska. She becomes the GOP “real American” VP candidate complete with Neiman Marcus and Saks price tags hanging off her new clothes. Praise Jesus mom didn’t turn off the visionary’s net service before the GOP’s new savior arrived!

    These people are spoofing themselves, and they don’t even get it. They’re buying their own spoof.

  44. 44.

    Linkmeister

    November 12, 2008 at 1:37 am

    Amen to the Geiger post. As an ex-Navy, ex-GI Bill recipient, those clowns who voted agin’ the updated version should have their flag pin rights rescinded.

  45. 45.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    November 12, 2008 at 8:08 am

    Hamsher has a very self-serving agenda as a rule. She’s not unlike the soopremely untalented hacktackstic (and total fucking fraud) Ana Marie Cox in that regard.

    However, unlike the former Cluelessette, Hamsher can write and for once, hit the nail on the head with this one.

  46. 46.

    RememberNovember

    November 12, 2008 at 10:38 am

    we’ll still have the Retarded National Coalition to make fun of.

    Palin’s not going to go away, not with "talent" agents slavering at her doorstep.

    There will always be someone to mock, satirize and jest. That’s the American way.

  47. 47.

    Interrobang

    November 12, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    I’m a very minor liberal blogger and have a Honours Bachelor’s from Canada’s answer to Princeton, and a Master’s from Canada’s answer to MIT. (Yes, that school, the one that keeps getting mentioned in the Jargon File.)

    My parents live in a backsplit built into the side of a hill, and don’t have a basement. I have blogged from their front ground floor before, but I was house-sitting for them at the time.

    Sarah Palin can go suck rocks…

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