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BTW- I know I am supposed to get worked up about the Browns, but all I care about is no injuries today.
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Come for the politics, stay for the snark.
Not all heroes wear capes.
I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.
It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.
The line between political reporting and fan fiction continues to blur.
Oh FFS you might as well trust a 6-year-old with a flamethrower.
There is no right way to do the wrong thing.
I might just take the rest of the day off and do even more nothing than usual.
Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.
An almost top 10,000 blog!
I am pretty sure Katy Tur wasn’t always such a bootlicking sycophant.
GOP baffled that ‘we don’t care if you die’ is not a winning slogan.
JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?
He seems like a smart guy, but JFC, what a dick!
The Supreme Court is corrupt. Democrats must win in November and force court reform.
I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself. We’re allowed to grow past that.
We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.
And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.
Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.
Days Since JD Vance Insulted Women Across America: Zero
Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.
People really shouldn’t expect the government to help after they watched the GOP drown it in a bathtub.
Optimism opens the door to great things.
Another missed opportunity for Jamie Dimon to just shut the fuck up.
Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.
mr. whipple
Have at it.
mr. whipple
To have a rivalry you should have teams that can beat each other. The clowns haven’t been able to do that in many moons.
sgwhiteinfla
If the Bucs lose to the Raiders with a playoff spot on the line Gruden should be fired on the spot as soon as the clock strikes 0
NonWonderDog
The last Lions game is an away game, so I can actually watch the conclusion of their magical 0-16 season on TV!
And they’re already down by 14! THE DREAM IS ALIVE.
sgwhiteinfla
Not so fast NonWonderDog
They just scored to pull with in a TD
Frank Sobotka
I am inclined to think that the Eric Mangini era ends today.
I for one welcome the Jets’ new Matt Cassel-Bill Parcells era.
Comrade Stuck
The Brown’s playing IN Pittsburgh. Ha!
Rooting for the Brown’s today is the same as rooting for Wily E. Coyote on his worst day. However, it is easy to get worked up about the fact that George W. Bush won’t be President in 23 days. Put that in yer pipe and smoke it!
Comrade Stuck
is there any web link to watch the game?
NonWonderDog
myp2p.eu is generally the best place to go to look for streams.
Searching through the site, I’ve found this website and this TVAnts link. I haven’t tested either.
I like TVAnts, myself. It’s basically just a torrent client that downloads live and pushes the video to WMP (or whatever media player you want), but it works pretty well.
JL
@Frank Sobotka: Odds are that New England keeps Cassel.
GuyFromOhio
Why?
… okay, except for McGinest and Jackson breaking through and possibly putting Big Ben in the ICU for the playoffs …
JL
Is anybody watching the Buffalo game? On line they are saying that the wind is pretty bad.
NonWonderDog
Yargh. I had so many links I was moderated, and most of my links don’t even work.
Short version: go here for Browns-Steelers.
Go here for general sports links. Most of them require a bittorrent-like client called TVAnts. TVAnts works quite well.
mr. whipple
well, so much for the injury worries. ben goes down and out…wtf are they doing playing him more then a series or two in a meaningless game?
NonWonderDog
The Packers attempted a 69 yard fair catch kick to end the first half… and almost made it. I really don’t know what that was about. Just trying to add to Lions ignominy?
JL
@NonWonderDog: Thanks! Now I can watch that team that Buffalo is playing. The mutt is properly adorned and I have on my sweat shirt. Hopefully, Ben is okay.
Punchy
Bears went from 10-0 up to 10-14 down in like 2 minz…WTF?
Comrade Stuck
@NonWonderDog:
Thanks Amigo.
Frank Sobotka
@JL:
We’ll see. If they franchise him, they have to pay him the average of the top 4 quarterbacks in the league. And why would he sign to continue being Tom Brady’s back up when he’s guaranteed a starting job somewhere?
JL
@Frank Sobotka: Brady still needs at least one more operation to remove scar tissue and is not healing as fast as they would like.
2liberal
Go Patriots!
Roza Hussein
(sigh) Ben, yoi
NonWonderDog
Sheesh, highlights-reel strip by Kalvin Pearson leads to Lions touchdown. Tie game.
The Lions are really making this 0-16 thing hard. I still think they can pull it off.
JL
Can the Jets make the playoffs if Baltimore loses?
JL
@Punchy: yup Minnestota is trying to help the Bears out.. but the Bears have decided not to show up. Good news though Carolina is losing now Atlanta has to win.
J.
Big Ben got rung. So much for no injuries.
Am watching the last few minutes of the Giants game. They should be ahead by way more. Just hope they don’t blow it.
As for the Jets, I am not holding out hope but will be watching the game just the same. And I believe the only way they make it into the playoffs is if they beat the Phins and Pats lose, but someone do correct me if I’m wrong.
Looking forward to January 10…
jc
You jinxed it man. You can’t write no injuries and expect not to have any. The fact it came with less than 2 minutes is one hell of a bitter pill.
Roethlisberger is a fucking idiot anyway.
No helmet on a motorcycle as an NFL quarterback???
Fucking idiot.
ChrisB
@sgwhiteinfla: Now would be the time.
sgwhiteinfla
@ChrisB
They shouldn’t even let him make it to the locker room.
NonWonderDog
0-16! W000000T!!
Kathy
WOW, the Raiders (my second favorite team this) just beat Tampa Bay and Houston held off Chicago to allow the Iggles to control their destiny. Of course they had that opportunity last week. (I am trying to keep thinking good thoughts)
Having grown up in the Motor City, my thoughts are with you you NonWonderDog and everyone else suffering through the Lions season. I can’t believe William Clay Ford is saying he doesn’t see the need to make any changes. Is there a Wide Receiver from some no-name school the Lions can blow their first pick on?
Kathy
Oops, sorry sgwhiteinfla. However, it really would be worse to be a Detroit fan. I read that NFL films were covering the game in Green Bay as if it were a Super Bowl. Where are you in Fla? I heard Miami has a chance.
sgwhiteinfla
In Tampa. Honestly if I thought the Glazers would fire Gruden behind this loss I would have been cheering for the Raiders. But the fact that they won’t just really really pisses me off.
JL
@Kathy: Some of us would prefer for Miami to lose.
2liberal
the Patriots win! Now … Go Jets! (yeccchh)
Kathy
JL and sg, that’s a battle I won’t go into. Can we all get along and hate the Cowboys?
JL
@Kathy: yup
Thlayli
@JL:
Yes, a Jets win and a Ravens loss puts the Jets in as a wildcard (the Pats would win the division).
sgwhiteinfla
Sorry Kathy but I grew up a Cowboys fan. So I hold my nose over TO and still root for them. Also unless you live in NY or grew up there I don’t see how you could possibly root against Pennington today. Him winning today is the kind of stuff movies are made from.
JL
@sgwhiteinfla: I lived in Dallas for five years and went to the games but I just can’t cheer for a team that Jerry Jones owns. Also, I hate TO
Third Eye Open
Screw all you people! GO ‘Phins!
Kathy
sg, I was never a fan of the Cowboys but after living in Philly for almost 20 years and after the TO opera, I really can’t extend any good feelings for them.
Regarding Pennington and Miami, I am pulling for them, if they can come back after their record from last year it is truly a Cinderella story. However, JL, it’s not the team I am getting the most worked up about. Growing up in Detroit, living in Philly, I am an NFC girl (which presents its own issues.)
Frank Sobotka
A botched hold on the extra point. Only the Jets. They’re going to lose the game 21-20 now.
I can’t believe the Iggles have a chance to make the playoffs. Andy Reid’s job is probably on the line.
sgwhiteinfla
Didn’t see anything wrong with Pennington’s arm on that TD throw.
GuyFromOhio
You want "issues"? Try being a Browns fan.
I do believe the Eagles are going to soar high with Invisible Jessica, unless the ‘Boys get the running game going in the 2nd half.
Kathy
GuyfromOhio, my sister and family live in Cleveland and I know its rough. I still won’t shop at Modell’s. Still, they do have more wins than Detroit.
Things are looking promising in Philly :) however.
Galen West
so, baseball anybody? how ’bout them Red Sox? I am a lifelong Sox fan and love them no matter what, but have to worry about this year. The Yankees are trying to buy themselves another world series. They couldn’t do it the regular way the last 8 years, so now they have to throw lots of money around.
GuyFromOhio
Cats in a fricking handbag, I make a beer run and the Eagles defense is putting on the finishing touch. ‘Boys is toast, unless Romo’s got 31 points tucked in his socks.
"More wins than Detroit" is only good because the season is over. Browns were working on it…
Kathy
OMG!!!!!!!!! Defense gets the 2nd TD in a row after a turnover. I am just hoping they don’t get too worn out :)
Just askin’ where is Jessica? If she is allowed within a 1000 mile radius someone in Dallas should be fired.
D-Chance.
@JL:
Yeah, the wind was murder. Buf kicker tried a 40-yarder that he aimed about 10 yards to the left of the left upright… it ended up about 20 yards to the right of the right upright. An unbelievable wind-induced slice that would have made any high-handicap duffer on any golf course proud. Opposite end, the Pat kicker missed a 26-yarder that he aimed at the left upright and blew wide of the right upright.
sgwhiteinfla
Cowboys
SPECTACULAR FAIL
GuyFromOhio
Wow.
There’s unfortunate, then there’s disappointing, and there is downright pathetic. JJ’s ‘Boys have officially reached the latter.
Nicely done, Eagles defense.
Kathy
OK, if I were an Eagles defender, I would be saying to the offense, ‘all you could do was 3 stinkin points?’
EddieInCA
Two coaches who deserve to be fired, given the amount of talent on the team:
Norv Turner
Wade Phillips
The Cowboys are pathetic.
Romo is overrated.
D-Chance.
BTW, if you want to see over-paid prima donnas who lack heart and will fold under anything approaching pressure… I give you the Dallas Cowboys. They not only choke, they will then stand around on the field and gag while the play is still going on 20 (30, 40, 50, 6…) yards down the field.
The ‘Boys are now 5-9 in December and 0-2 in the playoffs under Romo.
I’m a long-time punter (horse race bettor, not the football type). I’ve seen the fair weather nags who can run wire-to-wire, even in allowance class races, when given an unchallenged lead out of the gate. But, stick another speed demon with them so that they have to eye another animal for the first couple of furlongs, and they fall apart and finish dead last, even when running against the lowliest of bottom-level claimers. The Cowboys are so reminiscent of those hay- and ticket-burning glue sources. They may have talent, they may have pedigree; but they have no heart. And they will never be champions.
Litlebritdifrnt
@JL:
Go Panthers! Woooot!
PS) DH is almost salivating watching the Cowboys looking like a High School team against the Eagles…, he hates the Cowboys with a passion, it does him no end of good to see them get humiliated.
JL
@Galen West: OMG
My son went to a game at Yankees stadium several years back to watch the Sox against the Yankees. He had the tickets delivered to my house and I started receiving Yankees Christmas catalogs. I called him ordering him to stop it. It was very bad. A sweet story though, I volunteer at a food pantry and clothes closet. We get community service volunteers and one time I refused to hang a Yankees shirt. A teenager asked me if I watched the World Series when the Sox won, (first time) and I said yes. He asked if I cried and I said yes. He said that it was the first time he saw his dad cry. I live outside Atlanta but there are many sox transplants.
Smith
Yeah my Bears lost (they didn’t really deserve to be in the playoffs anyway) and the Vikings pulled out a victory but it is all better after seeing the ass-whipping getting put on the Cowboys. I hate this team like nobody’s business (sorry to any ‘Boys fans on the board). Also, part of me likes to see Donovan McNabb do well just to piss off Rush Limbaugh.
Frank Sobotka
With everything at stake, the Cowboys have to have played the worst game of the year. Just a complete, top-to-bottom, embarrassing fiasco. In spite of everything, I am absolutely delighted by this.
Frank Sobotka
@Galen West:
You mean the Red Sox didn’t buy themselves a World Series in 2004? That was all grit and heart and minimum wage players? Give me a break.
MrSparkle
Redskins fan here, torn between wanting a better draft position and wanting the Skins to prove they can beat a crappy team.
Though considering the Niners are up by 7 in the final quarter, that problem will probably solve itself pretty soon.
Litlebritdifrnt
I just informed my DH that he is not alone in his Cowboy’s hating fetish, he is delighted to hear that he has allies :) For him it was the "America’s team" thing and then when the 49ers beat them (Joe Montana) brilliant pass and brilliant catch and the coach said the 49ers were not a good team they just got lucky. Commence life long hatred of the Cowboys x 11.
JL
@Galen West: Another Sox story, I grew up with the Sox on the radio and listening to my dad year after year talking about whether or not they would win the World Series. My father died long ago but the day after they won the series I was telling the story about my dad to a mechanic working on my car and he asked what my dad would talk about now. I responeded the same thing but with a smile on his face.
Eric U.
I will always resent the fact that Pat Summerall used to call the cowboys "America’s team" — that is a slur to my country. I enjoyed watching Jerry Jones looking like he was going to puke today. But if my team was losing like that I’d be sitting down.
4tehlulz
HOW ‘BOUT THEM COWBOYS?
Ed in NJ
Well, as a Jets hater who thinks Favre is the most overrated QB in football, today was extra special. Can we please get this guy off my newspapers and magazines for good, now?
Karen
Jerry Jones only goes to the field when they are winning. He’s a fair weather owner.
What’s sad is Denver has to go to San Diego to lose.
4tehlulz
@Ed in NJ: No, as you will now feel the joy of the annual "Will he retire/comeback/defect to another team?" ritual.
Comrade Kevin
I have always enjoyed seeing the Cowboys lose, and it’s even better now with that ass T.O. on the team. On the Fox postgame show, it was pretty funny when they had a shot of him sitting on the bech, sulking, followed immediately by Donovan McNabb celebrating.
Oh yeah, the Niners won today, too.
Downpuppy
11-5 & no playoffs sux, no matter how you slice it
J. Michael Neal
The Roethlisberger injury is an example of what is chasing me away from the NFL. He just suffered a concussion bad enough to leave him on the turf for five minutes, then hauled off on a cart. Allowing him to play again this season is criminal on the part of whoever makes the decision to allow it.
Kathy
Downpuppy, yes, 11-5 and no playoff totally sucks. However, I can’t complain too much.
Plus, I would so love to have seen Donovan McNabb sign the game ball and hand it to TO. Who does everyone have for tonight.
Being a Vandy grad I gotta go for the Bronco’s
robertdsc
Memo to Favre: quit now. Wait, the date on the memo says January 2008. Oops.
Litlebritdifrnt
Ot – (oh wait can it be OT on an open thread?) It would appear that in addition to regaining lost cats I am adopting single marines. My step-daughter is "engaged" (I am using that term loosely) to a Marine, 24 year old alumni of Liberty (you CAN just imagine the political conversations that we have) anyhoo, he has just about moved in whenever time allows, so I am now feeding him. Well since SD and Fiance have no transportation they rely on their friend "Stevo" (don’t ask, I insist on calling him Stephen) DH and I made the mistake of inviting Stevo for dinner last night, it appears to have been an open invitiation because Stevo (as well as SD and Fiance) are with us for dinner again this evening. My question is this, is there a bag limit for having single marines dining at ones house? As far as I am aware the SD’s circle of friends is quite small (consisting almost entirely of geeks, if I am to be kind, I mean, video game sci fi geeks of the first order), so what is the bag limit? Does one even have one?
Mike
Yet another thrilling last-second victory for the 49ers. They’re not good, exactly, but they’re getting to be fun to watch.
Comrade Kevin
@Mike: and they gave Singletary the head coaching job for next year, something he definitely deserved.
Bob In Pacifica
Hey, The Niners won and named Singletary as permanent coach. And the Cowboys lost. Last night the Cal Bears beat Miami and Friday night the woeful Golden State Warriors beat the Celtics.
Now if only the three hundred dollars worth of software I bought worked…
Galen West
@Frank Sobotka: You are kidding, right? no way in hell 2004 compares to what the skankees are doing this year. I admit it wasn’t exactly minimum wage players, but it wasn’t $180 mil players either.
Galen West
@JL: I had "friends" be really nice to me all of a sudden in 2004 and 2007 after the wins. every other year, was the standard "Red Sux", or "if it is August, it must be choke time for the Sux", etc., etc.
DBrown
What a beyond stupid move by the steelers – to let Roethlisberger get killed like that for nothing! (Not Cleveland’s fault – aggressive play is the name of the game.) Stupid is not even close to the right call for that team to let this happen to such a good player. Now Ben will be pushed into a game after adding another injury to his brain (yes, his no helmet motorbike riding was stupid). I liked the steelers approach to football in the past but now I see that they are worse than the worse organization – win simply for winning’s sake and damn the players. As a Raven’s fan I have always admired Ben and his tough approach and the steelers organization but now, I have to admit that this new org is totally spineless and full of stupid pride. To force players that hard in a totally meaningless game for no reason but to keep your team ‘hot’ was something a good organization would never do. Considering Ben’s pass injury to his head that nearly cost him his career, this move was beyond reckless and borderline criminal if they force him back at all (which both they and he will do considering their approach to football.)
As for Dallas, couldn’t happen to a better team.
As for the Jet’s, tough luck but luck is made more often than not, and good teams make it happen.
Go Ravens!
Chinn Romney
I’m proud of what my Patriots did this season. The list of injuries to key players was incredible, and yet they stayed in it all the way to the end. I gave up all hope of a playoff slot a couple of weeks ago, when it became obvious that we had to depend on Brett Favre to help. Desperate times indeed.
I just hope someday puts a stake and a silver bullet through his heart, then decapitates him and buries the head separately. I am so tired of all the media fawning over that overrated geezer.
It was nice watching Mini-me Mangini squirming throughout. Not his fault though, the Jets front office is among the worst in the league.
As for Cassell going to the Jets. Sure, sounds plausible. The worst FO in the league keeps trying to copy the Patriots model, using leftover parts from New England. It’s been working great so far. Guffaw! The only problem is that Cassell is staying. But it’s actually Brady’s status in New England that is very much up in the air, wouldn’t shock anyone who really follows the Pats, if they traded him.
And before I forget, nice job Cowboys. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer crew. Well, except for the Jets. God, I love the NFL!
ABS
Not a Steelers fan, but what the hell was Tomlin doing playing Ben in the first place??? I know it turned out fine, but it looked a lot worse than it was. After Faneca left he has been thrown around like a rag doll the whole season. They had nothing to play for yesterday. Leftwich has been a good backup so far and Ben should have gotten a rest.
At least Couglin gave Brandon Jacobs a rest.
Paul in KY
This Browns fan is sorry Ben was hurt during the game. Hope he’ll be OK for the playoff game.
elmo
Is it sweet to be a Charger fan this morning?
Oh, yes. Yes, it is.
GuyFromOhio
That was fricking awesome. By the end of Q3 the Broncos defense looked like they simply gave up – why get bowled over and into a gurney in the last quarter of the last game that cannot be won?
May the Colts get the same treatment next Saturday.
Svensker
The best part of the day was that the Pats didn’t make the playoffs and the Dolphins did. There is some justice in the world.
Chad Pennington whupped the Jets and got Mangini fired. They call it Chaddenfreude now, baby.
Thlayli
Someone on TV pointed out this is the second time this decade the Pats have needed Brett Favre’s team to beat Chad Pennington’s team in order to make the playoffs — and it didn’t happen (2002).
So … what’s the biggest choke: the Jets, the Bucs, or the Broncos?