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You are here: Home / New Wingnut meme: Obama is more of the same

New Wingnut meme: Obama is more of the same

by DougJ|  January 21, 20091:14 pm| 47 Comments

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I didn’t see this one coming…the problem with Obama is that he is too much like Bush (via Red State):

Change? That’s what the dumb masses voted for, but they will just get more of the same, if Barack holds true to what he said in his speech today. It will be realized to be, after all, politics as usual. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I didn’t know George W. was a Muslim socialist who faked his birth certificate.

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  1. 1.

    Comrade Dread

    January 21, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    I think Obama will be more conventional than his supporters think, but given that he has held office for less than a day, it seems a LITTLE FUCKING EARLY to be projecting what his administration will be like.

  2. 2.

    4tehlulz

    January 21, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    The Wingnuts have committed the most grievous sin possible:

    They have become boring.

  3. 3.

    Punchy

    January 21, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    For the 1,632rd time, they just post whatever pisses off liberals the most. That’s their only metric for "quality" jouralmalism. It gets them comments, thus page hits, thus revenue, and it keeps them in this alternate reality

  4. 4.

    Reverend Dennis

    January 21, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    Because if Obama is just like Bush then that means that Bush wasn’t The Worst President Ever.

    Your block quoted text may be in the running for "Most Clichés in a Single Blog Post."

  5. 5.

    DougJ

    January 21, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    For the 1,632rd time, they just post whatever pisses off liberals the most. That’s their only metric for “quality” jouralmalism. It gets them comments, thus page hits, thus revenue, and it keeps them in this alternate reality

    So they’re entertaining us deliberately. Great. I’ve got no problem with that.

  6. 6.

    Rock

    January 21, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    This isn’t really about Obama — it’s about Bush. They are asserting that Bush was not a real conservative. Which means his failures can be attributed to his liberalism.

    Conservatism can never fail, it can only be failed.

  7. 7.

    MikeJ

    January 21, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    I like that bit about the "dumb masses". It’s exactly like when people use the word "sheeple". I know I can ignore this person, although Marc Maron uses it to great comic effect.

  8. 8.

    DougJ

    January 21, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Conservatism can never fail, it can only be failed.

    It’s a lot like communism that way.

  9. 9.

    NutellaonToast

    January 21, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    "The dumb massess" eh? I love how people are either truly and deeply on the side of the conservatives or too stupid too realize what’s good for them, depending on the results of the last election.

  10. 10.

    cleek

    January 21, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    "the dumb masses"

    remember folks, liberals are the elitists.

  11. 11.

    rawshark

    January 21, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    I get this a lot in political arguments. When the republicans are doing well they are the bestest party evah!! When they are doing badly or if you manage to actually get the wingnut to acknowledge a fact or two you get there is no difference between republicans and democrats.

    It;s like you’re Phil Kessel slicing through the Penguins, moving in on net. You deke Fleury out of his skates, take the shot but just before the puck crosses the line Hal Gill knocks the net off it’s mooring. No goal and the refs won’t hear you explain that nets don’t move on their own.

  12. 12.

    NonyNony

    January 21, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    @Rock:

    This isn’t really about Obama—it’s about Bush. They are asserting that Bush was not a real conservative. Which means his failures can be attributed to his liberalism.

    Conservatism can never fail, it can only be failed.

    I love extrapolating that out to what it means for "the Decider’s" eventual ranking on the "worst presidents" scale. As the dead-enders who have been defending him for the last few years start to demonize him for "failing the movement" his chances of history "vindicating" him will slip from "slim" to "none." Good for him.

    @DougJ:

    It’s a lot like communism that way.

    What do you expect from a movement whose leadership is made up mainly of a bunch of ex-Trotskyites?

  13. 13.

    rawshark

    January 21, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    You do not have permission to edit this comment. – Close

    Why don’t I have permission to edit my comment?

  14. 14.

    BDeevDad

    January 21, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    Sounds like they watched last night’s Daily Show

  15. 15.

    John S.

    January 21, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Why don’t I have permission to edit my comment?

    Shut up. That’s why.

  16. 16.

    TenguPhule

    January 21, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    I didn’t see this one coming…the problem with Obama is that he is too much like Bush (via Red State):

    After 8 years of Bush’s dick in their mouth, *now* they decide to bite down.

  17. 17.

    rawshark

    January 21, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    @John S.:

    LMAO

  18. 18.

    gbear

    January 21, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    Bush may not have faked his birth certificate, but he might just try to fake a passport before his time is thru.

  19. 19.

    The Other Steve

    January 21, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    I really do hope that Obama fails at being like GW Bush.

  20. 20.

    Incertus

    January 21, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    @BDeevDad: Beat me to it. Those fucks are never original, are they?

  21. 21.

    Incertus

    January 21, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    @TenguPhule: Except they missed and got their own tongues.

  22. 22.

    jenniebee

    January 21, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    They’ve also picked right back up with Michelle where they left off with Hillary in 1999. I won’t link to it, but Ace of Spades and his commentariat are saying "they savaged Laura Bush and Sarah Palin" and using that as an excuse to indulge in rape fantasies about Michelle Obama.

    I feel ill.

  23. 23.

    Faux News

    January 21, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    I agree: the wignuts aren’t outrageous or even funny. Now they are merely boring and utterly irrelevant.

    From a Darwinian viewpoint they are all a bunch of "useless eaters" and "oxygen thieves".

  24. 24.

    Cyrus

    January 21, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    I didn’t know George W. was a Muslim socialist who faked his birth certificate.

    We’ve been saying all along that he was a Manchurian candidate, but did they listen? Nooooo…

    Liberals have always complained about Bush being too close to the house of Saud. I’m sure right-wingers would agree completely* if only there was a way to do so without giving up their unrequited** love for gas-guzzling vehicles of all kinds.

    * Between NAFTA and their health care system, some right-wingers aren’t happy about our government having good relations with Canada. A predominantly Arab, predominantly Muslim country that produced the leader of Al Qaeda and three-quarters of the 9/11 hijackers? If not for recent politics, Saudi Arabia would be a far bigger bête noire than Iran is.

    ** Hopefully unrequited. You never know.

  25. 25.

    Cyrus

    January 21, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Stupid formatting. There was supposed to be an asterisk in front of that paragraph that’s all bold, indicating that it’s a footnote to the "would agree completely" part. Oh well. How hard is it to get reliable, predictable blog comments? This isn’t just BJ, half a dozen blogs have sucky commenting systems.

  26. 26.

    HumboldtBlue

    January 21, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    I didn’t know George W. was a Muslim socialist who faked his birth certificate.

    Well, yeah. Bush also wasn’t a legitimate President seeing as though it took Scalia to appoint him, Obama can’t be the legitimate president because he never took the oath! They’re like fucking brothers or somethin’.

  27. 27.

    brendanm

    January 21, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    Bush’s speeches were often surprisingly liberal, in the classical sense ala JFK.

    The problem was that his actions typically fell far short of his rhetoric. Obviously we don’t know that Obama will follow through on his promises as President, but his past record as Senator is encouraging, as is his rapid start so far (particularly regarding Gitmo).

  28. 28.

    Zifnab

    January 21, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    @DougJ:

    It’s a lot like communism that way.

    Well, authoritarianism in general.

    And yeah, this has nothing to do with Bush and everything to do with "sticking it to the liberals". Yesterday’s Army of Davids become today’s "dumb masses". Yesterday’s racist jabs become today’s bemoaning incivility of speech. They’re looking for an excuse to call liberals stupid and they’ll find it.

    And who the fuck cares? It’s not like they’ve been right about anything before. I don’t think they’re going to start now.

  29. 29.

    Farley

    January 21, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Now that’s strange I can believe in.

    They must all suffer from Morgellon’s disease, and receive their information from the tiny print etched on the wee colored threads they pull out of their festering skin.

    I’m going to look at the inauguration photos again, to cleanse the palate.

  30. 30.

    Maus

    January 21, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    I didn’t see this one coming…

    Seriously? They’ve been trying to dishearten progressives to their level and equivocate since Obama began the "change" message. It’s not surprising, and it’s been a fairly popular concern troll topic online and on both the conservative and mainstream media.

  31. 31.

    trizzlor

    January 21, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    That’s why those that were objective during the campaign recognized that the choices were (ironically) between Bush III (Obama) — despite his rhetoric to the contrary — and Clinton III (McCain).

    – From the comments, need I say more?

  32. 32.

    Neue Internetprasenz

    January 21, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Now that the transition has taken effect, I think we should send a message to the 26%ers that they absolutely do not fucking matter. That would entail a severe curtailment of the needless double-barrel linking in the main post.

  33. 33.

    sus

    January 21, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Here’s some of the Daily Show where the speeches are compared. This is a clip of lots of shows… but scoot it up to about 1:20 mark.

    youtube.com/watch?v=yuXIx76mIFc

    Stewart!

  34. 34.

    sus

    January 21, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    youtube.com/watch?v=yuXIx76mIFc

    scoot to 1:20 mark.

    Or… is this not posting?

  35. 35.

    sus

    January 21, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    I guess I can’t post a link here. Anyway… Stewart compared Obama’s speech to some of bushes. Same rhetoric. But… that’s politics. Since I can’t post link, Youtube has a clip of late show comics titled: Making Fun Of The Barack Obama Inauguration Speech

    scoot up to the 1:20 mark to see the Daily Show bit.

    Stewart is too much. love him.

  36. 36.

    Delia

    January 21, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    I was sadly unable to reach the RedState StrikeForce site, but my hometown paper forced me to read Doughy Pantload this morning. He seems to have gotten the "say something nice about Obama" memo.

    Here’s some of what he came up with:

    I am proud of and excited by the fact that we have inaugurated the first black president of the United States. He wasn’t my first choice, but he is nonetheless my president. And if ever there were a wonderful consolation prize in politics, shattering the race barrier in the White House is surely it. . .
    …
    Conservatives who try too hard to belittle the importance of this milestone are mistaken on several fronts. . . . For instance, you will not soon see a German chancellor of Turkish descent. Nor will a child of North African immigrants soon take the reins of power in France. It will be a long time before a Pakistani or Indian last name appears on the mailbox at 10 Downing St. And yet these countries bubble over with haughty finger-waggers eager to lecture backward and provincial America about race and tolerance. Why not enjoy rubbing Barack Obama in their faces?

    Moral: if you’re forced to find something nice to say about someone you don’t like, be sure to stick it to someone else while you’re at it.

  37. 37.

    The Silent Fiddle of Nero

    January 21, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    I didn’t know George W. was a Muslim socialist who faked his birth certificate.

    But he had that whole Messiah and Unity thing going. Didn’t he get caught on camera kissing and holding hands with a Saudi?

  38. 38.

    David Hunt

    January 21, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    I didn’t know George W. was a Muslim socialist who faked his birth certificate.

    Well he is a Christian-in-name-only frat-boy who had daddy fake his military records. So he’s actually not too far off from a wingnut stereotype of Barack Obama afterall…

  39. 39.

    Bubblegum Tate

    January 21, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    Blogs for Victory has been beating that dead horse for a while. "OMG–Obama took money from political donors! That’s not change we can believe in! OMG, Obama is surrounding himself with members of his own party–that’s not change at all!" And so on.

    It’s pretty stupid on its face…what makes it funny is that they seriously believe that they are seriously making very serious points about serious issues. Seriously.

  40. 40.

    Comrade Kevin

    January 21, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    @trizzlor:

    That’s why those that were objective during the campaign recognized that the choices were (ironically) between Bush III (Obama)—despite his rhetoric to the contrary—and Clinton III (McCain).

    So, for whom did that tool vote?

  41. 41.

    Faux News

    January 21, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    So, for whom did that tool vote?

    Herr Doktor Ron Paul probably.

  42. 42.

    Shinobi

    January 21, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    DId you guys see the list of things that republicans are supposed to not do now that they are out of power?

    DON’T call people un-American one week, and then talk about how “We are not blue states or red states, we are the United States” the next. (This rule may only apply to Tom Hanks, but I put it in just to be safe.)

    DON’T automatically think people who disagree with you are stupid or evil. Some of them are, of course. But most of them aren’t, and you might actually learn something if you listen to them.

    The corresponding list for democrats is much shorter:

    DON’T fuck everything up.

  43. 43.

    The Moar You Know

    January 21, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    I won’t link to it, but Ace of Spades and his commentariat are saying "they savaged Laura Bush and Sarah Palin" and using that as an excuse to indulge in rape fantasies about Michelle Obama.

    @jenniebee: Are you tellin me that Ace of Spades and Paul L. are the same person? God, it all makes a lot more sense now.

  44. 44.

    Bubblegum Tate

    January 21, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    BTW, have you all remembered to thank Bush?

    As far as I can tell, that site is not a spoof, either.

  45. 45.

    Sirkowski

    January 21, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Conservatives are now looking to the Daily Show for their talking points.

  46. 46.

    Paul

    January 21, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    My leftist friend has made this exact same complaint, in earnest: Obama is too much like his predecessor:

    "He’s Gorbachev. Too little, too late. You do not get out of problems with the same thinking which got you into them, and you will not like "our Putin."

    Obama intends to continue Bush’s programs– but to do them better!

    That… is not an improvement.

    You all hated Bush. You will come to hate what Obama does. That he can spin what he does with some measure of charisma is not an improvement (or a change)."

    A Finer World Blog

  47. 47.

    Ryan

    January 22, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Why are you blaming Conservatives? Jon Stewart came up with this. The Daily Show was never in the Bush camp. Ever.

    Are you in such denial that you won’t even consider why this clip pisses you off? I think the punchline is ironic because it isn’t a joke: "I guess when Obama says this stuff, I don’t think he really means it. And that gives me hope."

    Do you disagree with what Obama said when he took office? Do you really hope he didn’t mean it? If you don’t believe what the new President says he believes in, say it. Tell him he’s wrong. Or say that you hope he was telling a little white lie to appeal to the centrists.

    But don’t dodge the issue. Go on record and say what you believe, not how pissed you are that righties are gloating.

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