You think they’d knock this shit off after that disastrous fighter jet Air Force One stunt the guy had to resign over, but there’s a two-hour delay on flights into JFK this afternoon because of an air show.
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Dulcie
Isn’t it Fleet Week in NYC?
Laura W
Are we Italy-bound?
smiley
Link doesn’t work.
DougJ
Link doesn’t work.
There’s no link.
Dulcie
Ahhh, it’s delaying YOUR flight :-)
DougJ
Are we Italy-bound?
Yes.
Geoduck
If you’re talking about the recent Manhattan fly-over screw up, it wasn’t a “jet fighter”, but a plane used as Air Force One. A jet fighter going overhead would probably make people in NYC feel safer…
Violet
@DougJ:
Really? Have fun! Just got back from Paris. Had a great time. Had to wear a coat, which was a treat for me!
smiley
@DougJ: OK, but when I ran my cursor over your post, a question mark showed up over JFK. In my experience that sometimes means there’s a link there. I guess it sometime means there’s not one too.
Violet
@smiley:
Huh. I got the question mark too. Wonder why that is? Maybe it has something to do with the all caps. I’ve noticed the links on this blog cut off if there are all caps within the text. It’s still hyperlinked, but it’s not blue or whatever color the rest of it is.
gbear
Why go to Italy when you could choose a social!sm free destination instead?
Smiley, the question mark comes up for CAPITOL LETTERS. It’s asking why the writer is SHOUTING!!
Bill E Pilgrim
@Geoduck:
It was both, actually.
A fighter and Air Force One. The fighter was taking the pictures.
I think having a fighter trailing the 747 in fact added to the anxiety.
smiley
@gbear: Thanks. I learned something today.
Paul T
The air show is over Jones Beach, northeast of JFK. The real reason for any delay this afternoon is thunderstorms approaching from the northwest.
ATCSCC ADVZY 055 JFK/ZNY 05/24/2009 CDM GROUND STOP
MESSAGE:
CTL ELEMENT: JFK
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 1948Z
GROUND STOP PERIOD: 24/1948Z – 24/2100Z
CUMULATIVE PROGRAM PERIOD: 24/1600Z – 25/0259Z
DEP FACILITIES INCLUDED: (MANUAL) ZOB
PREVIOUS TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 291 / 102 / 48
NEW TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 533 / 155 / 89
PROBABILITY OF EXTENSION: MEDIUM
IMPACTING CONDITION: WEATHER / THUNDERSTORMS
COMMENTS: WX ENROUTE
EFFECTIVE TIME:
241952 – 242200
SIGNATURE:
09/05/24 19:52
asiangrrlMN
@gbear: Capital letters, too. Heh. Sorry. I had to get my spell check on.
Poor, poor, DougJ delayed on his flight to Italy. Yes, I certainly feel sorry for he who is going to Italy. Not.
Ash
I’m pretty sure no flight has ever actually been delayed because of an air show?
J.D. Rhoades
I will never fly in or out of JFK on a Sunday afternoon again. My plane was stuck on the runway for four freaking hours this time last year. We waited so long we had to go back to the gate for more fuel. I’ve been told by other travelers since then that JFK+Sunday=havoc.
gbear
@asiangrrlMN:
AARGH! I spelled it right the first time but my posting got eaten when I forgot to add my name and address. Rats.
garyb50
So… the most self-centered, whiney, incorrect post EVER on Balloon Juice?
Wes
@Ash:
Yeah, I’m going to question this post, too. We have air shows all of the time in DC, and they’re scheduled well enough ahead of time that airlines know to schedule around them. Besides, don’t they always hold one on Memorial Day weekend?
I think you’re being delayed because of weather, too.
geg6
DougJ, quitcher whining. They’ve never shut down airspace at a major international airport for an air show that I’ve ever heard of. They have a huge one at the ANG base right smack dab next door to PIA and never shut it down. Not even for the Stealth bombers flying over. And I espcially have no sympathy for DFHs jaunting to commie, elitist European surrender monkey places like Italy.
Dennis-SGMM
Clear proof that DougJ has never been on a flight into Hotlanta One drop of rain on any runway at Hartsfield-Jackson and you’ll be in holding pattern three states away until you die.
Dennis-SGMM
If Obama hadn’t allowed the firing of all of the gay air controllers DougJ would would already be winging his way to wherever-it-is.
garyb50
What’s funny is my wife is stuck in the Denver airport right now because of lightning. If only it was an air show.
Yutsano
So since you’re stuck at the airport…how’s about that movie thread you promised?
JL
@Yutsano: Why wait? We could have our own movie thread right now.
SrirachaHotSauce
I assume that your top post is tongue in cheek.
What’s really funny is how quickly the White House caved to hysterical reactions of the MSM over the VC-25 flyover (the airplane that is AF1 when the president is on board).
Fucking ridiculous. So every time NYC residents see an airplane now, they are going to run like in a science fiction movie?
Delia
I had to go to an air show once, about twenty years ago. My now-ex-husband dragged me and our kids out to it in the SoCal desert in the middle of summer so he could impress us with how wonderful the aerospace industry is. We went with another family and met up with the other million people (literally) who’d come out for the event. It was hotter than hell and the lines for the porta-potties were miles long. We watched the planes do their acrobatics and ate our picnic and then when it was over one million people all headed back for their homes in the Southland at the same time. It took us four hours to get home.
What’s the opposite of a peak experience? Pit? Thanks for reminding me of one of the pit experiences of my life.
Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse
This one.
JGabriel
@SrirachaHotSauce:
Well, let’s see. I’m a Manhattanite who watched the planes fly into the WTC from approximately the 45th floor of the buildings at Madison Square Garden. You’ll probably remember what a perfect view that was, since it’s where CNN, et. al., shot most of the footage looking down upon the WTC from midtown.
Do we run everytime we see an airplane overhead? No, of course not. But a lot of us still experience a twinge of anxiety or panic – especially if the plane is flying low.
It was a beautiful morning. No clouds, perfect temps. We had a similiar day about a month ago. It was first time I’d gotten through such a day without thinking of 9/11 till after sunset.
So a little sensitivity to the fact that a lot of people here were traumatized by 9/11, and still harbor some anxieties from it, might not kill you. Just saying.
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Dennis-SGMM
@JL:
Okay. how about a real movie thread? I have my DVDs stored in those narrow IKEA bookcases. The top shelf in the first one on the left holds:
“Phantom Museums: The Short Films of the Quay Brothers”
“Almost Famous”
“Robots”
“Sci-Fi “(“Fourteen movies! Over 21 hours!) including the incomparable serial “Radar Men from the Moon.”
“Millions”
“O Brother, Where Art Thou?”
So much for cinematic pretense.
SrirachaHotSauce
@JGabriel:
Sorry, no sale. I live in a city where airplanes fly low overhead every hour of the day and night. It’s not that big a deal. Manhattan has a major, busy airport on 3 sides, East, North, and West.
911 was almost 8 years ago. Sometimes planes fly low.
That hysteria over the VC-25 was fucking ridiculous.
And this is the kind of absurd shit that gets disseminated and nobody just stops the tape and says, are you people fucking kidding me?
Yeah, it was such an awful transgression that a mayoral aide just forgot to tell the mayor. Maybe because he didn’t think it was that big a deal? Maybe the Mayor should resign?
Maybe a huge tape should be draped over the island, that says “Babies on board?”
And the police dept doesn’t see the need for security when there are AF1 operations in the area? We should publish the expected flight path of this airplane because it’s so big and scary that peoples’ fears outweigh legitimate securit concerns?
Who manages these things for the terrified people of NYC? Is there like an agency? Apparently the mayor and the chief of police don’t know about it.
I think they put all the attention on the White House because they are too chicken to admit that they preside over a city of little old ladies who scare them to death.
John Cole
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DougJ
For the record, the airline announced over the loud speakers that the air show was causing delays. And when I asked at the counter, they said they were pissed about it.
Gindy
My husband was piloting a plane that was due to land at JFK and he called from the departing airport to let me know he would be delayed due to the air show. He was kind of ticked about it more for his passengers’ sakes and for his FO, who is a commuter and would miss his connection back in Cincinnati due to the late arrival.
garyb50
@DougJ: Well, then, my very very very bad.
cosanostradamus
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Nah. It’s just them damn UN black helicopters. All NYers live in fear of them and their little UNICEF boxes.
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