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You are here: Home / Politics / War on Terror / War on Terror aka GSAVE® / I Thought They Wanted Him To Win

I Thought They Wanted Him To Win

by John Cole|  June 2, 20097:13 pm| 38 Comments

This post is in: War on Terror aka GSAVE®

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Should be fun watching the spin on this one:

Al-Qaeda number two Ayman al-Zawahiri lashed out at US President Barack Obama Tuesday on the eve of his visit to the Middle East, urging Egyptians to shun him.

Zawahiri, who is himself an Egyptian, portrayed Obama’s June 4 visit to Cairo as being at the invitation of the “torturers of Egypt” and the “slaves of America.”

“His bloody messages were received and are still being received by Muslims, and they will not be concealed by public relations campaigns or by farcical visits or elegant words,” Zawahiri said.

The audio recording of Zawahiri’s speech was embedded in a comparatively brief 11 minute, 40 second video produced by As Sahab Media, Al-Qaeda’s propaganda arm, according to the SITE Intelligence Group. It was posted on jihadist web forums.

I vaguely remember being told during the election that Al Qaeda wanted Obama to win. Also, considering al-Zawahiri already has the most dangerous job in the world, Al-Qaeda #2, I’d think he’d want to keep a low profile.

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  1. 1.

    asiangrrlMN

    June 2, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    What, huh? I don’t even understand what he is trying to say. I mean, it’s like I’m reading Michelle Malkin or something. Man, al-Qaeda must be in desperate straits right now.

  2. 2.

    Death By Mosquito Truck

    June 2, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Clearly it means Obama is one of the moderate muslims. Muslim factions fight all the time. They’ll come together and destroy us for our freedoms when we least expect it, like during the Super Bowl.

  3. 3.

    Zifnab

    June 2, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Haha. Maybe Malkin will quote him. I can see the headlines:

    “Al Qaeda and I finally agree on something”.

    And we’ll be able to sit back and laugh and laugh and cry a little.

  4. 4.

    John Cole

    June 2, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: You’re kind of right- I thought it was translation issues, but his comment does have a kind of “late night Friday Red State Diary” kind of quality.

  5. 5.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    June 2, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    The meme was the #2 AQ in Iraq guy was always getting his ass shot off or blown up. Zawahiri has been #2 for the mothership AQ for quite a while. He and Osama bin Laden have been pretty safe since March 2003.

  6. 6.

    asiangrrlMN

    June 2, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    @Zifnab: I would crack up laughing if this came to pass. MM and al-Qaeda agreeing on something. Then, TBogg would have to make fun of her, and it would be high comedy.

    @John Cole:

    “late night Friday Red State Diary”

    Heh. I much prefer the late-night Friday Tunch live-camera blogging at BJ +5.

  7. 7.

    Martin

    June 2, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    I mean, it’s like I’m reading Michelle Malkin or something.

    Some wonder if it is responsible to speculate based on this evidence that Michelle Malkin and Ayman al-Zawahiri are in fact the same person. I think it would be irresponsible not to.

  8. 8.

    Shabbazz

    June 2, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Even though al-Qaeda doesn’t really want him to win, you can see how, given the Democrat pendency for surrendering the fight, I wouldn’t be so wrong to believe that they did. Right?

  9. 9.

    Surreal American

    June 2, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    You don’t understand. Al-Qaeda is trying to give plausible deniability to B Hussein Obama because he is instrumental in their long term goals to enslave Americans under the revived caliphate and, and, and…

    Jeebus, My head hurts. I could never troll Red State/Free Republic on a long term basis having to post delusional bull pucky like that day-in and day-out.

  10. 10.

    Little Dreamer

    June 2, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    They were as correct on this as they were on the link between AQ and Saddam…. which is not at all.

  11. 11.

    JL

    June 2, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    John, Sorry to go ot but I am trying to send Andrew Sullivan a note and I am being blocked because I am on gmail… Can someone help me out. This is my note

    Andrew, I understand that you have problems discussing a females choice whether to carry a fetus to term but I really have a major disagreement with you because you choose to show a perfectly formed child while discussing these awful events. Your religion prevents you from having enough empathy to agree with some of these choices. That is your choice, Now when you are discussing males getting married can you please have a nice picture of them kissing? That’s a simple request and I hope that you will consider it.

    So how can I send it? The site keeps asking for att info that I don’t have.

  12. 12.

    Jim-Bob

    June 2, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Alqaeda #2 = Spinal Tap drummer (or Grateful Dead keyboardist).

  13. 13.

    Bubblegum Tate

    June 2, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    @Shabbazz:

    Even though al-Qaeda doesn’t really want him to win, you can see how, given the Democrat pendency for surrendering the fight, I wouldn’t be so wrong to believe that they did. Right?

    Exactly. This is a perfect opportunity for a rebunking. Indeed, it is central to the wingnuts’ point.

  14. 14.

    Wile E. Quixote

    June 2, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    @John Cole

    I vaguely remember being told during the election that Al Qaeda wanted Obama to win.

    Hah! That’s what the international Islamo-fascist conspiracy wants you to think. See, they want you to think that they oppose Obama while in fact he is secretly a member of their conspiracy, which is why he won’t show anyone his birth certificate. Also the Scott Roeder is a liberal who shot George Tiller to make Operation Rescue look bad and the Oklahoma City bombing was actually performed by islamic terrorists who framed Timothy McVeigh and the militia movement to damage the Republican party and give Bill Clinton the power to pass laws confiscating our guns and making us all get married to people of the same sex and have lots and lots of abortions. It’s obvious once you see through the Serbian Jew Double Bluff

    Also, considering al-Zawahiri already has the most dangerous job in the world, Al-Qaeda #2, I’d think he’d want to keep a low profile.

    I think I’m going to start using the expression “Al-Qaeda #2” as in “Yeah, I ate a bunch of hot wings and jalapeno poppers last night and now I’ve got to take a real Al-Qaeda #2” or “Dude, if you’re going to take an Al-Qaeda #2 can we at least have a courtesy flush?”

  15. 15.

    benjoya

    June 2, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    torturers of Egypt

    well, the Egyptian government does torture. So do/did we; what’s my point?

  16. 16.

    serge

    June 2, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Hasn’t al-Zawahiri been killed like seventeen times now?

  17. 17.

    Linus

    June 2, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    To be fair, people, Zawahiri has been the #2 of al-Qaeda for a very long time (check out the Wikipedia page, for example). The apparent multiple and repeated slaughterings of al-Qaeda’s so-called #2 usually referred either to the #2 in Iraq, or were just wrong.

  18. 18.

    Dreggas

    June 2, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Hah! That’s what the international Islamo-fascist conspiracy wants you to think. See, they want you to think that they oppose Obama while in fact he is secretly a member of their conspiracy, which is why he won’t show anyone his birth certificate. Also the Scott Roeder is a liberal who shot George Tiller to make Operation Rescue look bad and the Oklahoma City bombing was actually performed by islamic terrorists who framed Timothy McVeigh and the militia movement to damage the Republican party and give Bill Clinton the power to pass laws confiscating our guns and making us all get married to people of the same sex and have lots and lots of abortions. It’s obvious once you see through the Serbian Jew Double Bluff

    I was back in NY for my sister’s funeral over memorial day and I kid you not both of my parents act like birthers. They claim the copy of the birth certificate shown is not the real thing so therefore Obama may not be a citizen.

    It’s sad really, my folks used to be intelligent, independent thinkers but now thanks to Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and WingNutNews they’ve become walking zombies. It’s sad when every time you turn on the tv there it automatically goes to the Fox News channel, channel.

  19. 19.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    June 2, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Any relation that Wingnut America’s rantings may have to the actual world is entirely, and rarely, coincidental.

    There should be a big disclaimer at all airports and ports of entry, like a big mission accomplished-sized banner.

    The two sets of extremists, ours and theirs, couldn’t function without their willing and mutual cooperation.

  20. 20.

    Brachiator

    June 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    Also, considering al-Zawahiri already has the most dangerous job in the world, Al-Qaeda #2, I’d think he’d want to keep a low profile.

    Being Al-Qaeda #2 is much like being a redshirt on the original Star Trek series.

    The term originates from the science fiction television series Star Trek and is taken from the red shirts worn by security officers. On Star Trek, anonymous security officers often accompany main characters on dangerous missions where they meet their death.

  21. 21.

    Krissed Off

    June 2, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    OMG. Al Qaeda threw Obama under the bus.

    You bastards!

  22. 22.

    tc125231

    June 2, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    You know, I really enjoy this blog.

    However, occassionally it reminds me of the dangers of the congregation of the like minded.

    We tend to egg each other on.

    I have to admit it can be pretty funny, though.

  23. 23.

    tc125231

    June 2, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    The two sets of extremists, ours and theirs, couldn’t function without their willing and mutual cooperation.

    Amen, brothers and sisters.

  24. 24.

    bago

    June 2, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    I thought torture was supposed to help us defeat these extremists…. Do you see what happens when we stop torturing people!!!

  25. 25.

    ppcli

    June 2, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    torturers of Egypt
    …
    well, the Egyptian government does torture. So do/did we; what’s my point?

    Yep, Egypt does torture. In fact, they tortured Zawahiri brutally and at length when he was arrested as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood after Sadat’s assassination. That made a big contribution toward turning a religious fanatic physician into a mass-murdering psycho religious fanatic physician.
    .
    More proof that torture works.

  26. 26.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    June 2, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    @Jim-Bob:

    My hat’s off to you, sir.

    “It was one of those things that was better left unsovled”.

  27. 27.

    Mike

    June 2, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Second or third the thing about Az-Zawahiri being AQ’s #2 since well before 9/11. Think you mean #1 or 2 of AQ in Iraq or the AQ operations chiefs post-9/11.

  28. 28.

    LD50

    June 2, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Yep, Egypt does torture. In fact, they tortured Zawahiri brutally and at length when he was arrested as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood after Sadat’s assassination. That made a big contribution toward turning a religious fanatic physician into a mass-murdering psycho religious fanatic physician.

    This fact would not convince wingnuts that torture was counterproductive. It would merely convince them that whenever America tortures someone, the person who is tortured must then be held in captivity forever.

  29. 29.

    Dulcie

    June 2, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    @Dreggas: I’m so sorry for your loss.

  30. 30.

    Gus

    June 2, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    I thought the really dangerous job was AQ’s #3.

  31. 31.

    aww

    June 3, 2009 at 12:15 am

    Gus beat me to it.

    The most dangerous position in al-qaeda is “#3”.

  32. 32.

    Steeplejack

    June 3, 2009 at 12:46 am

    @JL:

    Are you just addressing your message to [email protected]? That’s what worked for me in the past when I wrote Sullivan.

    The site keeps asking for att info that I don’t have.

    I don’t get this. Just use your regular e-mail program, send the message to the address above, and it should work.

  33. 33.

    Ian Welsh

    June 3, 2009 at 2:23 am

    AQ2 isn’t dangerous. AQ3 is. He’s been AQ2 forever, and he’s still alive.

  34. 34.

    Jim-Bob

    June 3, 2009 at 5:44 am

    P.A.T.

    After all, you can’t really dust for vomit.

  35. 35.

    jayackroyd

    June 3, 2009 at 6:44 am

    What is he trying to say? He is trying to speak to the rank and file Egyptian. They regard the Egyptian (and Saudi) governments as apostate puppets of the US government. This position is not without reason or support. The trouble with running out this line in Egypt is that the Brotherhood has significantly ratcheted down its extremism.

    Obama does indeed make it harder to portray the US as an intolerant, irrational imperialist. But there is still quite a bit to be said in support of an “imperialist” claim.

  36. 36.

    jayackroyd

    June 3, 2009 at 7:15 am

    ppcli

    Not to mention torturing al Qutb, the intellectual father of the modern islamist movement.

    Hilzoy today wonders whether we will be torturing Tiller’s murderer. Could be a ticking time bomb involved….

  37. 37.

    Mark

    June 3, 2009 at 10:01 am

    Joe Scarborough on Morning Joe this morning (I’m paraphrasing):

    “Bin Laden’s statements should be a wakeup call to all of those foolish liberals who thought that the only reason that Al Qaida hates America is because of George W. Bush.”

  38. 38.

    lawnorder

    June 3, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    most dangerous jobs in the world:
    – Al-Qaeda #3
    – Red shirted guy in Star Trek
    – Chenney’s hunting buddy

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