Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

People are complicated. Love is not.

A last alliance of elves and men. also pet photos.

T R E 4 5 O N

Let there be snark.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

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  1. 1.

    Carrie

    I`d think the same thing…..either that or she put it there without him knowing.
    what a loser.

  3. 3.

    Phoebe

    You’re probably right. Or it’s cover, and he’s protesting too loudly. That stuff should go without saying, to me. Like American flags/patriotism.

  5. 5.

    John PM

    Or he’s really, really, really in the closet, and he needs the constant reminder to keep from being led astray.

  6. 6.

    Pixie

    I see that a lot down here (Tennessee). I get the feeling that I am seeing those stickers because people would like to distance themselves from teh gay. See! I’m Married — TO A WOMAN – and boy do I love her! :)

    I usually see these stickers in the company of Le Jesus Fish, anti-abortion sticker – Bush/Cheney ’04 – you get the point :)

  10. 10.

    TimO

    Chris Rock says:

    “I love when men say ‘I take care of my kids!’. Dumb ass! Your’e SUPPOSED TO!”

    nuff said.

  11. 11.

    Politically Lost

    “Oh my. He must have really screwed up.”

    You are either correct or we have the ultimate douchebag out of a very crowded field.

    And, yes…I’m married.

  13. 13.

    Morbo

    To paraphrase Chris Rock: “Of COURSE you love your wife. You’re SUPPOSED to love your wife!”

    Oops, *shakes a fist at TimO*

  16. 16.

    Shinobi

    My first question is, are we sure this was a dude driving the car? Because if I were gay married I would totally have that bumper sticker.

    Or maybe he just feels he’s so attractive and women are so turned on by his car that he has to let them know he’s not interested up front?

  21. 21.

    Indylib

    If my husband put that on his car I’d ask him what the hell he had done.

    On a lighter political note TPM has new pics the White House released of our Prez and his cohorts on his overseas trip. The one that includes camels is frikkin’ hilarious.

  22. 22.

    tripletee (formerly tBone)

    My first thought was “Oh my. He must have really screwed up.”

    My first thought would have been “what kind of douchebag still puts bumper stickers on his car?”

  23. 23.

    Brachiator

    Didn’t see that this had been covered here before, but Ta-Nehisi Coates is having big fun with a truly stoopid David Brooks column.

    Sonia Sotomayor had bad timing. If she’d entered college in the late-1950s or early-1960s, she would have been surrounded by an ethos that encouraged smart young ethnic kids to assimilate.

    I don’t know why he went out of his way to denote this period as ending in the early 1960s since this would have eliminated Sotomayor from being admitted to Princeton, which did not admit women until 1969.

    He appears to make an appeal for the good old days when non-whites and women knew their place and accepted that they would be excluded from some colleges. This also allows him to hypothetically extinguish Sotomayor’s record of achievement at Princeton. Ironically, Brooks seems to think that Sotomayor was “scarred” by multiculturalism, but presumably would not have been scared by sexism.

    He also doesn’t understand the deeper irony that even his stunted view of multiculturalism should not be compared to a fantasy of meritocracy, but to the fetid white male privilege that Princeton and other colleges had to outgrow:

    While president of Princeton University, [Woodrow] Wilson discouraged blacks from even applying for admission, preferring to keep the peace among white students than have black students admitted. It was not until 1945 that Princeton started admitting black students, the first of whom graduated in 1947.

    It’s almost typical that Brooks’ column is positive towards Sotomayor, and yet still drips with condescension and paternalism. “I’m obviously not qualified to judge the legal quality of her opinions. … To my eye, they are the products of a clear and honest if unimaginative mind.”

    With friends like these …

  24. 24.

    gypsy howell

    I see these all the time. Funny, I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that says “I [Heart] My Husband.”

  27. 27.

    Xenos

    I suspect he may be a rugby player. There is an old, popular rugby song by that name. I won’t go into the details, though.

  28. 28.

    Nicole

    I think the same thing (“He must have really screwed up”) whenever I see a guy on the street carrying flowers.

  29. 29.

    Margarita

    TPM has new pics the White House released of our Prez and his cohorts on his overseas trip.

    … At center-right is the hieroglyphic that the President commented on saying it looked like him.

    Pharaoh-gate!

  30. 30.

    tim

    John, my theory is that you are single because you have yet to admit to yourself that you are the gey and there is nothing to be done about it, and that sooner or later you will have to come out of the closet.

    Please know that when you do so, I will be most supportive, as should we all be.

  31. 31.

    Mousebumples

    @Shinobi:

    My first question is, are we sure this was a dude driving the car? Because if I were gay married I would totally have that bumper sticker.

    I’m neither gay nor married, but that was my first thought too.

  32. 32.

    Cat Lady

    Why can’t news bobbleheads say “supremacists”? They keep saying “supremists”. Idjits.

  33. 33.

    Face

    Asked this a few days ago, got no response, so i’ll ask again:

    Can anyone give me a ballpark number on how much Markos (the GOS founder) makes from his website annually? I know he’s a paid Newsweek (Time?) columnist, does paid interviews, etc., so a simple statement of his salary wont be accurate. I want to know just what his site brings in, approx. No idea where to go to find this info. Thanks.

  34. 34.

    Matt

    @John PM:

    There was a guy I used to work with, who had this same bumper sticker. And we were fairly certain that it was the case you describe.

  35. 35.

    binzinerator

    @Ol’Froth:

    I seem to recall that you can get stickers depicting a wood screw that fit over the heart .

    Heh. I thought of those too. Too bad there weren’t versions of those stickers depicting a whip or club.

  36. 36.

    peach flavored shampoo

    My first thought was “Oh my. He must have really screwed up.”

    My first thought was “wonder what his mistress thinks of it”

  37. 37.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @donnah:

    Better than “I club…”

    Or “I diamond my wife” which would mean that it’s probably Donald Trump’s car.

  38. 38.

    Joshua Norton

    @tim: From the bits and pieces John has told us about his life, his fitness regime, his clothing preferences and his grooming requirements, he’s definitely not gay. More like a grumpy confirmed bachelor.

  39. 39.

    Calouste

    Well, “My Wife” is one of the best songs written by John Entwistle. Makes me wonder, do they also have bumper stickers with “I love Boris the Spider”?

  40. 40.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @Cat Lady:

    Must be the same reason everyone says “So Skirty” when referring to the retirement fund. Drives me nuts. It’s like one guy in DC decides how everyone else has to talk.

  41. 41.

    Rosali

    The one that includes camels is frikkin’ hilarious.

    I was too busy thinking that the one with him in a hat is frikkin’ hot.

  42. 42.

    Tsulagi

    And people wonder why I am single.

    You’re single because you’re prone to spending a Friday or Saturday night creating videos of a fat cat and taking the time to post them. Now you add a dog to the mix.

    That could work, though. Take the dog walking in parks and ask any hot chicks empowered women there to share their advice on transitioning a frightened rescue dog into your nurturing home. Leave the grumpy fat cat at home during your recon missions. Get out of the house.

  43. 43.

    JenJen

    Has everyone checked out the bizarre exchange between Contessa Brewer and whacko Palin defender John Ziegler, from MSNBC yesterday? Must-See TV, even when the outcome is known in advance.

    It’s aways fun to add something else to Ziegler’s growing nutbar list o’ credibility (he’s also Katie Couric’s drunken stalker, and, my personal favorite, a noted dating-game reality show sexist-loser.)

    Quite a group of accomplished advocates Palin has chosen to surround herself with, eh? ;-)

  44. 44.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @Brachiator:

    Not to mention the whole idea of her “bad timing”. Yeah, she only graduated summa cum-laude, ended up as an appellate court judge, and now the next United States Supreme Court justice.

    But of course she didn’t end up agreeing with David Brooks about everything, so I’d call that a massive fail. Too bad, if it weren’t for that bad timing she coulda made something of herself.

  45. 45.

    Dork

    And people wonder why I am single.

    Has your Mom started in with the not-so-subtle hints yet?

    I figure at least 35-45% of men get married soley because they want to shut up their mothers’ “suggesting”.

  46. 46.

    binzinerator

    @Face:

    Can anyone give me a ballpark number on how much Markos (the GOS founder) makes from his website annually?

    Ballpark? Somewhere between a few grand and a few million.

  47. 47.

    Brachiator

    @Indylib:

    On a lighter political note TPM has new pics the White House released of our Prez and his cohorts on his overseas trip. The one that includes camels is frikkin’ hilarious.

    Michelle Obama and the First Daughters’ London Adventure is pretty charming as well.

    I just love this little bit about the reaction of the staff at the Audley pub: “But when the American First Lady led her two daughters into the pub, even the normally unflappable staff were left gobsmacked.”

  49. 49.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    So am I wrong in thinking that if the bumper sticker had had the word “cat” instead of “wife”, that not only John but pretty much every one of the regulars here would have just thought “Oh. Sure. Perfectly normal. What’s odd about that?”

    Be honest.

  52. 52.

    Tim Fuller

    This noble woman, the enlightened and empowered one:

    there to share their advice on transitioning a frightened rescue dog into your nurturing home.

    And to help nurture a frightened (allegedly gay) political blogger into a stable heterosexual relationship…..

    Enjoy.

  53. 53.

    Laura W

    @Brachiator: I was not expecting the trendy colourful tunic embellished with ribbons and fabric flowers. Wow. Just wowie wow.

    @JenJen:

    and, my our personal favorite, a noted dating-game reality show sexist-loser.

    I’m feeling very tired today. I don’t think I can click through your link and listen to him. Maybe tomorrow. Remind me.

    @Bill E. Pilgrim: Yes. What a stoopid question.

  54. 54.

    kid bitzer

    i *do* wonder why you’re single, actually.

    you seem like a decent, affectionate, loyal guy who likes women.
    you’ve got some sort of steady job, and a good sense of humor.
    i don’t know if you’re a looker or not, but a lot of women are willing to make allowances on that score.
    (hell, one of them even married me. after we were safely hitched, i made her get her eyeglass prescription updated.)

    so, yeah, i have wondered.

    and then i remind myself: it’s none of my fucking business!

  57. 57.

    JenJen

    @Laura W: Will do, sleepy-girl. Yeah, I’d probably skip it until you’re in a point-and-laugh mood.

    I’ll also find a clip of your boyfriend, Lawrence O’Donnell, on Morning Joe (brewed by Starbucks) today, debating the new, shitty book (brewed by Starbucks) by Joe Scarborough (also brewed by Starbucks). Good, good, good stuff! (the debate, that is. Not Starbucks.)

  58. 58.

    Brachiator

    @Carrie:

    I`d think the same thing…..either that or she put it there without him knowing

    I hear that Obama put this bumper sticker on the back of Air Force One.

    I think it’s kinda sweet.

  62. 62.

    Polish the Guillotines

    There’s a car near me with a bumper sticker: “I [heart] my students with autism.”

    Every time I see it I wonder, does she love her autistic students, or does she prefer her students to be autistic?

  63. 63.

    The Other Steve

    I just accepted a new job. 4th one in as many years. This one sounds like a great fit though. I’ll finally be working for a company that has a product, and that product is computer related.

  64. 64.

    Laura W

    @Bill E Pilgrim: I have a little lapel button I’ve had since…um…1995 (a going away from CA gift from a cat loving co-worker) that says: “Cats, Not Kids”. If I could find that in a bumper sticker, imagine how popular I’d be with it sitting right next to the only one I currently allow on the car.
    (Not really. I hate bumper stickers. I made an exception for this one That One. It’s small and tasteful.)

  65. 65.

    The Other Steve

    @Face:

    Can anyone give me a ballpark number on how much Markos (the GOS founder) makes from his website annually?

    No, it’s not a public company. He’s hinted at it though in the past. It’s enough that he’s able to pay for servers and bandwidth and hire at least one full time staffer to maintain the site, and spend some money on development of new features… plus provide himself a salary. But not a lot more than that.

  67. 67.

    Anonymous Academic

    I was behind some dude in a small American sedan while we were leaving Atlantic City two weeks ago and he was sporting a bumpersticker that read “I Pray: Get Use To It” with the verb error in there all proudmary and shit. I’m still trying to get use to it but Kant.

  68. 68.

    Cat Lady

    @Laura W:

    I actually just saw the “Cats Not Kids” bumper sticker last weekend on my way to the Cape, and had a laugh out loud moment. And the driver just added to the whole experience.

  69. 69.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @Laura W:

    Ah I see. You were saying yes the other way.

    I had actually asked “Am I wrong in thinking that…” and took the yes that way.

    My brothers are cat people. I understand completely.

    I’m more of a peluche person. Every relationship I’ve had has had a mascot of that kind. Easier to feed anyway.

  70. 70.

    PhoenixRising

    My first question is, are we sure this was a dude driving the car?

    Ding ding ding! Shinobi FTW, because I am both gay and married and HAVE that bumper sticker on my truck.

    When Jesus-fish cars pull up beside me, they assume I’m driving my fella’s truck. My peers, OTOH, split a gut laughing. Win-win.

  71. 71.

    Punchy

    I [heart] my students with autism

    I believe this means she hates all autistic students who aren’t hers.

    Either that, or she only loves them if they’re in school.

  72. 72.

    Ash Can

    @Rosali:

    I was too busy thinking that the one with him in a hat is frikkin’ hot.

    When I saw that picture I immediately thought, “Indiana Jones!”

    @binzinerator:

    Ballpark? Somewhere between a few grand and a few million.

    That’s not a ballpark, that’s the entire fucking Pacific Coast League.

  73. 73.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @PhoenixRising:

    When Jesus-fish cars pull up

    I’d love to see someone from about 50 years ago reading that and trying to make sense of it.

  74. 74.

    BlueMonkey

    Jeebus, but the “I my wife” b.s. are on cars all over the damn place here in suburban red hell. There’s a guy here at work that has one (and he’s a total dick most of the time, so go figure).

    Aren’t these supposed to be the merit badge of couples that have gone to some kind of Promise Keeper or cat-licker religious retreat?

    And to all of you that referenced Chris Rock – BRAVO! My husband and I have that exact same response when we see this crap on cars (I Love My Wife, I’m Proud of my Eagle Scout! etc.,). You’re supposed to love your wife you stupid m-fer! :)

  75. 75.

    SGEW

    I had a “God Bless America” bumper sticker on the back of my car for years. Bought it and put it there the morning Kerry conceded, next to an American flag sticker I got at the same time.

    Both were upside down, of course.

    A cop pulled me over once, and told me it was because he wanted to check if I was “anti-American,” because of the stickers. Hilarious.

    [This wasn’t as bad as an incident in N.M., years earlier, when a trooper had pulled me over in a routine illegal immigrant check, saw my “No War” pin, and said, “So, you’re against the war?” “Yes sir,” I replied. He looked at me, spat on the asphalt (literally spat!) and said, “Step out of the vehicle and place your hands on the hood.” He was not gentle.]

  76. 76.

    Geoff Wittig

    This is a “promise keepers” bumper sticker.
    You need to understand what it really means: “I love my wife, and I’ll keep her in roses and candy. But she’d better have hot dinner waiting when I get home from work. She’d better give it up whenever I’m in the mood. She’d better keep her mouth shut when the guys are discussing politics. She’s gonna let me go out to get liquored up with the boys every weekend, and blow $20,000 on a bass boat when her car needs a new muffler. She’d better know the Bible well enough to ‘submit to my authority as head of the household’ and not give me any crap, or I’ll smack her upside the head. Yessirree, I love my wife”.

    Or something like that.

  77. 77.

    Laura W

    @Bill E Pilgrim: First you confuse my already-muddled mind with your triple negative sly question posing and now you’re gonna make me google “peluche”. Has anyone ever told you that you’re a lot of work, Bill E. Pilgrim?

  78. 78.

    freelancer

    I see these all the time. Funny, I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that says “I [Heart] My Husband.”

    Prolly cause the women whose husbands have the “Heart my wife” bumper sticker aren’t allowed to drive or leave the house outside the presence of a male relative.

  79. 79.

    R-Jud

    @Indylib:

    On a lighter political note TPM has new pics

    Clicked through. I like Reggie Love on the camel. Prince Charles looks like a lobster.

    @Anonymous Academic:

    all proudmary and shit

    Oooh, I like that.

    Also, LEAVE JOHN COLE ALONE! It is entirely possible he’s happy as he is. Or that he’ll wind up like my Dad’s best friend since kindergarten, married for the first time at 50 to a smart, witty, loving 32-year-old with great legs and an enormous income. Entirely possible.

  80. 80.

    Joey Maloney a/k/a The Bard Of Balloon Juice

    You used to be able to order, from an advertiser in the back pages of National Lampoon magazine – which should tell you how long ago this was – a pack of stickers that were just the right size to cover up the heart icon on a bumpersticker, displaying instead a sketch of a standard flathead screw.

  81. 81.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @Laura W:

    That was on purpose as punishment for the lazy reading. Sort of like having you do calisthenics.

    Has anyone ever told you that you’re a lot of work, Bill E. Pilgrim?

    I’m a cheap date but high maintenance.

    Or wait is it the other way around?

  82. 82.

    carter

    that is inexcusable.
    I’m not trying to sound like a politically correct scold but you’ve crossed a line here.

  83. 83.

    Indylib

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    You’re a high date who’s cheap to maintain? Lovely! I have a single cousin with a really good personality I’d love to introduce you to.

  84. 84.

    Xanthippas

    I figure at least 35-45% of men get married soley because they want to shut up their mothers’ “suggesting”

    Oh come on. We do it so our GIRLFRIENDS will quit “suggesting.”

    Also, is the bumper sticker really that bad? I put it in the category of “sentiments I admire but probably wouldn’t put on bumper sticker on the back of my car”, but not into the “can you believe anybody puts this on a bumper sticker” category that merits blog time.

  86. 86.

    scav

    Sweet? Nah, anything of that nature attached to stickem on the back and flouted about publically carries definite olfactory hints moving toward the rotting end of the spectrum. Can be confused with sweet but…..

    high, cheap and in France? ah, a role model. sigh.

  87. 87.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @Indylib:

    No I meant I’m a maintenance high who’s cheap and dated.

    @Laura W: Yes and it’s after midnight here, as the song says, so I’m nodding off. Time for me and the peluche to sign off….

  88. 88.

    Joey Maloney a/k/a The Bard Of Balloon Juice

    @me:

    Never mind. Teach me to post before reading through the thread.

  92. 92.

    Dreggas

    I just got some bumper stickers (well magnets) for my new car. One reads “I’d tell you to go to hell but I work there and don’t want to see you every day” and the other just says “Morally Flexible”. Being me I love pulling in front of people who have those stupid ass “NOTW” stickers or the “fish” on their cars.

  93. 93.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    Wait just one fucking moment. Is Obama signalling that he’s willing to cave on the public option for your health care as long as he gets a bipartisan bill by the end of July when he says that he’s flexible on “everything”? That’s what Grassley et. al. just implied on MSNBC. And Pelosi is also saying that everything is on the table.

  94. 94.

    El Tiburon

    Anyone ever see those stickers you could buy out of the back of magazines that had a picture of a SCREW on them?

    They were meant to be placed over the “heart” on the bumper stickers that said something like “I HEART my Cocker Spaniel”

    For those conservatives out there, the bumper sticker would then say: “I SCREW my cocker spaniel”

    I never saw it done, but always thought it hysterical.

  95. 95.

    JL

    Today I saw the movie UP and I’m surprised that Carl did not have an I love my wife sticker on his balloon cart. For those who like Pixar movies, I highly recommend the movie. Bring a tissue though.

  98. 98.

    Laura W

    Because it’s an open thread and I can, I’m gonna post one more old kitty photo that I just found in my iPhoto while looking for baby Sadie shots. (Also posted in the Tarot Bitchez thread, aka: Strange Woman In My Bed.)

    Kitty Tarot

  99. 99.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    Am I the only one around here who ever so silently snickers to herself when she sees a car with a McCain/Palin sticker on it? Perhaps I’m just a sore winner.

    Oh and Olwyn is gorgeous! One of my new babies opened his/her eyes today, I am still searching for names (btw the white sox and the pale orange kitty died their first night, no idea why, they just did, so just the two all black ones are left).

  100. 100.

    Jim-Bob

    John:

    Pull beside the car.
    Honk and make the “roll down window” motion.
    Roll down window and say to the driver,
    “I love your wife, too.”

  102. 102.

    iluvsummr

    @JL: Saw UP in a 3D theater over the weekend & loved it! Would definitely see it again. Also liked the clouds/storks short that played before UP (at least in the theater I went to).

    My favorite microlending site (Kiva) has opened up to US entrepreneurs, partly because of the recession. Just made a loan to a guy in Atlanta.

    NPR had an interesting bit today on this and mentioned an entrepreneur in Kenya who made a loan through Kiva to a San Francisco entrepreneur (who’d previously made loans to other Kiva entrepreneurs).

  106. 106.

    AhabTRuler

    AhabTRuler, who is Ken Harvey?

    He’s what happens when a wall runs at you (I guess he’s a cute wall, dunno). Always thought that he looked like an impressive dude.

  111. 111.

    Laura W

    @AhabTRuler: Ha! Almost choked on my salad there.
    I was sort of waiting for John to swoop down and accuse me of Revisionism, or Republicanism, or Rantism, or the like.

  112. 112.

    Origuy

    I got a kick out of seeing who was Obama’s tour guide for the pyramids. I watch all of the History and Science Channel stuff about Egypt; Dr Zahi Hawass, the Director of Antiquities, is in all of them. You can’t point a camera at a mummy in Egypt without him getting in front of it.

  114. 114.

    Laura W

    So You Think You Can Dance competition is ON!!

    (Love the swooping in pants imagery, Ahab.)

  116. 116.

    LD50

    Obviously, he just lost the bumpersticker that’s supposed to go next to that, which says “BUT OH YOU KID”.

  117. 117.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    @Laura W: Great picture. I’ll repost this if we get another open thread, but I wanted to say HI to all the other Tarot gals out there. I was late getting back to the beautiful Lily thread.

    Most of my readings have animal involvement as well. Cats love the energy and one or all sprawl on my spreads regularly. I’d tell you about the most amazing experience I had with a skeptical friend and her dog yesterday, but it was one of those, you had to be there, moments.

    Right now I’m being called to Jamie Sams’ Medicine Cards – which all the animal lovers would appreciate since they’re all animal spirits. I alternate between not doing any divination for months, then alternating cards – sometimes Rider/Waite, sometimes Angel Cards, and several Native American Spiritual decks.

  118. 118.

    Levi

    If there was a picture of Barack Obama with a woman in a bikini on his lap, Rush Limbaugh would be shitting his pants about it for weeks on his radio show.

  120. 120.

    Wile E. Quixote

    I am totally digging Burn Notice

    And damn, Gabrielle Anwar is HAWT with that cute Irish accent.

    I also saw The Hangover today. It’s the best comedy I’ve seen in a long time.

  121. 121.

    tagged45

    Late to the party here but on the topic of stickers I saw this gem in a parking lot the other day:

    If you’re gonna ride my ass…
    AT LEAST PULL MY HAIR!

  122. 122.

    DZ

    Some of you are way too cynical. Until she died 19 months ago, my wife was, for 37 years, the love of my life. I had this bumper sticker – it was the only one I ever displayed, beacuse I did, in fact, love my wife.

  123. 123.

    DZ

    Full disclosure: I did seriously consider one other bumper sticker: “Don’t believe everything you think”.

  124. 124.

    MysticalChick

    @DZ: Awww, that is so sweet. There’s about one of you for every thousand idiots out there. Pardon our cynicism.

    @Bad Horse’s Filly: My cats are all over me when I do my meditations or other works of a “woo-woo” nature. I think that’s why I resonate so fully with cats – they just “get it” in a way other animals don’t. (IMO, anyway)

    @the rest of youse: Crack me up! Best line of thread: “All proudmary and shit” (I am so stealing that!)

  125. 125.

    Lord Faahtass

    @DZ:

    Some of you are way too cynical.

    Thanks DZ, for saying that. And I’m very sorry to hear of your loss.

    Some of us do really love our wives. Some of us do like to buy them flowers, just because they like flowers. It’s so cynical to hear that it’s seen automatically as a suckup play.

    I can’t help but think your wife and my wife would have had at least one thing in common despite the great differences in years. It sounds like they both understood the honesty of the expression of love, and believed in the sincerity of it. Though that bumper sticker is not something I would put on my car (BTW in my life I’ve never put any bumper stickers on any of the cars I’ve owned) I do know if I had one my wife would know that “I love my wife” wasn’t overcompensation for some transgression.

    And she would know too that flowers mean nothing more than “I know you love flowers, I do too, and I like giving you things you love”, as opposed to “I done bad, here’s a bribe to forgive me and I’m thinking that the make-up sex might be a nice return for the investment.”

    Sad. I suppose people see as they have learned to see. They are cynical because they have no small experience with such manipulations of love.

    Thiry-seven years would never be enough for any man who had a wife he truly loved. I have no idea how many years my wife and I will enjoy together. It will never be enough. But I would take even just a year of love that was insusceptible to the kind of cynicism you noted over a century’s worth of a marriage that has succumbed to such a belief in distrust.

    Sometimes ‘I love my wife’ is a simple celebration without an ulterior motive. Some times flowers mean nothing more than ‘I love you, just because you are you’. I know the ‘I love my wife’ gets worn as a badge by people who use it to tout their religous bona fides. But if they are using it to prove a point, it no longer means ‘I love you, just because you are you’.

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