Allahpundit on the firing of new right-wing icon Carrie Prejean:
I’m tempted to say we got suckered here…
So close, but yet so far.
At some point they are going to realize that making random crazy people the face of “teh movement” is a bad idea. See also, Joe the Plumber.
harlana pepper
Hi, I was completely alone on the previous thread, which is the norm. I actually heard echoes. ‘
Anyway, I posted a comment about the army of god website Rachel Maddow talked about last nite. Has anyone else checked it out?
pharniel
‘army of god’ – wasn’t that an hbo special focusing on the anti-abortion nut jobs, way back in the day
harlana pepper
Damn, that is one fugly picture of Coulter. I mean really, couldn’t they have done a little better, perhaps picked a better angle, airbrushed it, something.
Scott
I avoid looking up the hardcore hate sites, like the AoG. I prefer not to sully my computer’s precious hard drive with stuff like that. And it would raise my blood pressure too much. (It’s also why I avoid clicking on links to right-wing blogs — your average Malkinite rightwinger isn’t that different from the AoG or Fred Phelps…)
As for Carrie Prejean — Haw. Haw. Haw.
Bill E Pilgrim
I think the movement is at least as crazy as its spokesmodels are.
Though I suppose the whole idea of PR is to hire front people who make you look not crazy, or less crazy, in which case they do seem to be getting it backwards a lot.
harlana pepper
@pharniel: It’s also the name of a website, armyofgod.com. I encourage people to check it out – celebrating anti-abortion criminals, etc., as martyrs. Pretty blatant, disturbing stuff.
kommrade reproductive vigor
No, no, no! This is all part of a plot by the Ebbil Ghey Mafia! They’re controlling Donald Trump through poisons they put in his hair dye!! Read all about it in my 2,603 page book!
We’re the real victims! We’re the reaaaal victiiiims!!1
/fReichtard
Rosali
I remember when Britney Spears was the darling of the right because, even though she was dating Justin Timberlake, she was a virgin and saving herself for marriage.
aimai
That is the funniest post I’ve ever read–he really thought “this one would be different?” Yeah, *this airbrushed, tit lifted, junior league, amateur hour would be blonde girl model* was going to turn out to be …what? Sojourner Truth? Emma Goldman? Phyllis Schlafley? Ayn Rand? But all whiter, more virginal and with bigger fake tits?
aimai
NonyNony
Right now this looks like an assertion without evidence to me.
Realizing this would require them to do a little something we non-crazy people like to call “learning from our mistakes”. From what I’ve seen of the right for the last, oh, 20 years or so “learning from our mistakes” is just not done. In fact, anyone who actually learns from their mistakes is either driven out of the party or leaves it in disgust at their fellow travelers on their own accord. That leaves behind a core of people who are either unwilling or unable to even admit that they’ve MADE a mistake, let alone try to learn from it.
The Saff
@Harlana Pepper
I’m with Scott. It’s bad enough reading the quotes that John and DougJ post here and the ones that DailyKos quotes. The wingnuts are truly despicable.
Heard this morning on Bill Press that a reporter in Virginia asked Jeremiah Wright if he’s talked to the President and Wright said, “no, them Jews won’t let me.” What a tool.
A Mom Anon
@pharniel:
yep, I think it was called Soldiers in the Army of God. They were scary then,I can only imagine what they’re like now. The guy running that mess thinks women are evil and the only thing stopping them is a male dominated world. Ick.
harlana pepper
@The Saff: I guess I’ve been off the circuit for a while, same thing, outrage fatigue. But I thought I’d take a peek this morning to see what I’ve been missing. It’s pretty horrific. Also, just watching clips of Glenn Beck on C&L. Overload. Back to withdrawal. (except for checking in on Lily updates, of course) — did I mention Ann Coulter seriously looks like a crack whore in that pic?
Fulcanelli
Wouldn’t it be interesting if the innocuous Carrie Prejean dustup led to a slew of come-to-Jesus revelations where the far right finally gets hip to the obvious fact that they got suckered and lied to wholesale by Bush and Cheney with the Iraq war?
Yeah, I know that’s a stretch, that’s what I get for posting before I finish my first cup o’ joe…
Who else caught the video snippet of Senator Whitehouse’s little speech on what’s he’s learned about the torture program on Rachel’s show last night and Michael Isikoff’s comments afterwards? The report is supposed to come out tomorrow and if the teaser is any indication the fRight Wing will be in Grand Mal denial on the Tee Vee all weekend. Bastards.
Can I haz speshul prosecuter naow, Uncul Barry? No Cenaters or Howse mmbrz plz. Non guvermnt ppl only with pwr to indight at any lvl.
burnspbesq
@The Saff:
I’m not disputing your assertion that Rev. Wright is a tool. However, his statement is probably factually accurate, if a bit unfortunate. Who do you suppose controls access to the President. I’m willing to bet that it’s Rahm Emanuel, who is well and truly Jewish.
The more fundamental question is why anyone would think that Rev. Wright’s lack of access to the President is newsworthy.
J.
You people leave Carrie Prejean alone. Can’t you see the enormous moral struggle she has been going through?! To strip or not to strip. That is the question.
On the plus side, this means Matt Lauer will probably get to interview Ms. Prejean again and more fodder for The Daily Show. : )
harlana pepper
with all her fucking money, couldn’t she have had somebody take a half-way decent pic? jeebus, we all have to at least make an effort — anyways, I don’t like it being anywhere near Miss Lily’s Welcome Home banner, guess I’m being overly protective
NonyNony
@burnspbesq:
I wouldn’t refer to Rahm Emanuel as “them Jews”. I’d refer to him as “that fucking asshole Rahm Emanuel”. As in “No, that fucking asshole Rahm Emanuel won’t let me”. But then I think of Emanuel as a fucking asshole first and as a Jewish person somewhere way down on the list – like way after “guy who is missing his middle finger” and even after “former Congressman from Illinois” but before “guy whose parents named him Rahm”.
Plus I find it very doubtful that if Obama actually wanted to talk to his former preacher that Emanuel could stop him – my guess is that Obama sees Wright as an embarrassment at this point who is at best trying to use him to leverage his own celebrity. Not exactly someone I’d want to embrace publicly myself.
The Grand Panjandrum
Eric Cantor is looking more and more like the voice of reason in that crowd.
kay
I deliberately ignored the whole controversy, so I had to follow the link.
The correspondence is really funny. She tells the pageant/franchise managers they can’t tell her where to go or when to be there, because she has some other things she planned on doing.
And, of course, she works for them. Maybe the essential nature of that relationship wasn’t fully explained.
She fired herself. Less dramatic people might just call that “quitting her job”. Of course, she has to return a crown, but that could be considered her uniform, I guess.
Louise
It’s sad, really, that I want that point to be far, far in the future; it would be so much better for our country to have a Republican Party with whom we could respectfully disagree.
Unfortunately, I want anyone responsible or supportive in any way for the last eight years to suffer as long as possible.
The Saff
@harlana pepper: Since I’m at work, I’m guessing those wacky sites are blocked anyhow. It’s bad enough for me when Keith Olbermann plays clips on Countdown.
I still worry constantly about Obama’s safety.
harlana pepper
@The Saff: I don’t let myself think about it, but it is a valid concern for sure (snipers)
The Saff
@burnspbesq: No doubt he meant Emanuel and Axelrod.
Fulcanelli
Watch how far she falls from grace now that she’s lost her crown. The fRight Wing will be slamming Trump as a s0ci aLisT tool of teh Left.
Where will she land first? Maxim? Playboy? Hustler? Grade C soft-core pr0n that runs after midnight on Showtime?
Nah, she’ll wind up on the inter tubez in military surplus fatigues with an M-16 as a poster child of some scatterbrained far right cause and be a fixture on FOX for the next 8 years.
kommrade reproductive vigor
The GOP didn’t make mistakes. Mistakes were made.
Riiiight. If R.E. were a Christian, Rev. Wright wouldn’t have said “Those Christians won’t let me.”
Sure.
harlana pepper
@kay: So this dude is really disappointed this Prejean individual was not able to become a martyr of the right? Damn, these people are trying to claw their way out of oblivion. Why don’t they just let the rapture come? Why bother with murder when you are going to be rapturized?
Is Donald Trump now going to be a member of teh liberal left? Who knew?
patrick
Carrie wrote, in her email:
Is it asking too much for a supposedly educated woman, spokesman for yutes, blah, blah, blah, etc., etc. to spend the extra second and a half to type out “you” instead of “u”, adhere to something resembling punctuation standards and refrain from using three exclamation points?
Punchy
He mispelled the words “sucked off”.
The Grand Panjandrum
Maybe PJ Media will hire her to report on the “truth” about the Israeli settlements on the West Bank.
Jason
Lovin’ the Biblical exegesis for standards of nekkid in the Hot Air thread. It’s as if they think any women who are representative of, er, whatever it is Prejean is supposed to be representative of are proxy wives for the Clan. Says AP, “I really thought she was going to be different.”
Slut! It’s just another broken heart for Snake…kid bitzer
@14–
uh, burnspbesq?
give that one a little more thought.
i’m just going to assume that this was a pre-coffee post, and did not reflect your mature, considered judgment.
harlana pepper
@patrick: In a word, yes. But education and literacy is despised by the right, so, unlike her parents, they must be really proud.
Jason
@patrick: She’s interning for Grassley. It involves a lot of ghostwriting.
harlana pepper
@The Grand Panjandrum:
DINGDINGDINGDINGDING!
Damn, you’re good.
DZ
@Harlana pepper”
Joseph Scheidler and his Army of God have been around for at least 25 years. They are advocates of physician murder which they call ‘justifiable homicide’. Question is why you didn’t know about them before.
Fulcanelli
I do like a lot of his music, but fuggin’ Prince needs to be shot for starting this childish BS phonetic spelling shit on his song titles all those years ago. Jeebus… Just what we needed, a hip, new and improved way to dumb down a huge portion of the population that can barely frickin’ spell at an 8th grade level anyway. This country really is on it’s way to irreversible fuck-ed-ness.
Unless Obama institutes those liberal re-education camps, of course… Alert Michelle Bachmann!
harlana pepper
I guess this will cue a halt in mass production of Carrie Prejean blow-up dolls for all wingers
who can’t get laid.harlana pepper
@DZ: I’m talking about the website specifically. Why would I want to know about these fuckers when I’d like to pretend they don’t exist?
kay
@harlana pepper:
I don’t know what they expected. I sometimes watch Huckabee’s show, and he seems to book physically attractive conservatives, both male and female.
Maybe they see that as an area that needs improvement. A pretty face.
Although, that doesn’t explain Sam the plumber.
Captain Haddock
There is no long term vision here. The entire “movement” mainly exists now to give Rush, Hannity, et al shit to bitch about any given day. Cha-ching suckers!
JGabriel
The comments in that HotAir thread are rich in the crazy:
I think that’s not the only issue on display here.
Are the HotAir comments always that … entertaining?
.
Zandar
…the more I think about this, the more I picture modern conservative punditry as a Voltron robot made out of individual quantum units of Stupid.
harlana pepper
@kay: Huckabee physically attractive???? (burf!)
(I’m sorry, misread your comment! Whew! I was wondering if I needed to have my eyes checked!)
burnspbesq
@ kid bitzer:
If you expect me to respond or reconsider, you’re going to have to be a bit more specific in identifying what’s bugging you.
harlana pepper
@JGabriel: OH MY GOD
harlana pepper
So Poppy is a heathen?
Fwiffo
When did Gullivornia become such a pathetic conservative hellhole? They’ve fallen behind Iowa in civil rights, gone galt on their budget and are even represented by a genuine wingnut in the beauty pageant circiut.
kid bitzer
@44–
eh, i’m too tired for a rumpus, so we can drop it if you like.
it’s just, “no, them jews won’t let me” is not really made factually accurate by the fact that rahm emanuel is jewish. wright’s statement means other things than, “the presidents calendar is controlled by someone who happens to be of jewish ancestry.”
but, like i said, i was up all night except when i dozed sitting up from 3-4, so i’m not going to go three rounds over *anything* today.
JGabriel
@harlana pepper: My favorite is the matter-of-fact assertion that “in heaven people will be wearing robes”.
Jason
@JGabriel: …which also makes it sound like heaven is a “public” place. Are there barbeque pits and swingsets? Free-speech zones?
Da Bomb
@Jason: I wonder if they serve snow cones in heaven?
burnspbesq
@kid bitzer:
The point that I was trying to make, and failed to make clearly, is that for me (and YMMV), this isn’t about Rev. Wright, it’s about media agendas and editorial judgment.
Rev. Wright is a doddering old fool who, in any rational world, would no longer be of interest to anyone other than his family and his parishoners. He is almost Pavlovian: stick a microphone in his face (literally or figuratively), and he is virtually certain to say something ill-considered, stupid, or cringe-worthy. As he did in this instance.
For me, the question is why anyone would still want to stick a microphone in Rev. Wright’s face. The only reason to do that is to try and get him to say something ill-considered, stupid, or cringe-worthy, which for some group of idiots will reflect badly on the President.
And that’s what I find objectionable. You don’t send a reporter to interview Rev. Wright unless your objective is to score stupid, irrelevant quotes that you can use to bash the President.
On one level, this is just part of the price that we pay for having a First Amendment. And I’m willing to pay that price. But I don’t always have to like it.
OK?
Michael
She’ll have the Fox gig until somebody notices that she’s starting to age.
tripletee (formerly tBone)
@JGabriel:
No word yet on whether free-balling is allowed under those robes, but I’m guessing “no.”
YellowJournalism
@tripletee (formerly tBone): So the essential question about Heaven would be: Boxers or briefs?
kid bitzer
#53–
agree that wright is now an embarrassment, and sought out only for the purpose of embarrassment.
and thanks for coming back–like i said, i’m not feeling combative today.
tripletee (formerly tBone)
@YellowJournalism:
Briefs, clearly. Only homos and commies wear boxers.
Scott
So the essential question about Heaven would be: Boxers or briefs?
You mean just underwear under the robes? Certainly not! Full business suits for the men. Prairie dresses for women. Not that you’ll see much of them in Heaven — they’ll need to spend most of their time cooking for Jesus.
anonevent
@burnspbesq:
What’s absolutely hilarisad is that some of the winger posts I read on You Tube in response to Shep Smith was using Wrights quote as an indication that Obama is anti-Semitic.
LD50
Nah, evil doesn’t airbrush out.
LD50
But it may be the only way they have of recruiting new ‘talent’.
LD50
Doesn’t sound like heaven to me…
Surreal American
@aimai:
Maybe the plan was for Prejean to be the next Anita Bryant.
Jay C
Well, the answer to the question of “what do they wear in Heaven?” actually came to us from the TV show Charmed: Phoebe (Alyssa Milano) is turned into the Goddess of Slut or something, and tries to vamp a hunky young Elder (from “up there”), She asks him:
“I have a question”.
“Yes?”
“What do you wear under those robes?”
“More robes!”
joes527
Damn.
Yesterday I was (stupidly) hoping that her passing would go unmentioned.
Her 15 minutes were just about done, and Trump goes and resets the clock to 0.
David
It’s hard to believe that we missed the queen of “also”, Palin the Alaskan crazy queen. How can we leave her out?
Svensker
No, no, no, all wrong. I heard on Hannity last nite, with Ms. Coulter, that the ONLY reason she was fired is because she is pro-life and Republican and the libruls are AFRAID of her and of Sarah Palin. Terrified. Libruls don’t like strong women who aren’t so-cial-ists.
Made perfect sense to me.
Tsulagi
@JGabriel:
Now see, that’s where they’re losing the battles with Islam. On the C-side they’re promising your reward as walking around in robes in stoned-like bliss smelling the flowers and listening to the birds chirp. On the I-side it’s 72 virgins. No fucking comparison.
But if those I-guys were smart they’d take care of the other half. Promise Muslim women if they support their husbands and male family members toward martyrdom, in Paradise their reward is 72 supportive and attentive hung studs catering to their feelings and every wish. Those women would subscribe their husbands to Jihad Weekly and buy the bomb vests for them. War over.
Surreal American
She’s got a point. One of my biggest fears is that Coulter will be the 2012 GOP nominee for president. I mean, I’m really really scared of that!
/snark tag for sarcasm-impaired trolls.
On the plus side, if Coulter were nominated and defeated in 2012, it would be amusing to hear other GOP’ers dismiss her loss because she wasn’t a “true conservative.”
Left Coast Tom
@JGabriel quoting some HotAir dimwit:
He seems rather confused about the whole teabagging thing.
Comrade Dread
You mean elevating a pretty face as the new spokesperson for the GOP without doing much vetting led to disaster?
No one could have predicted.
bago
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gnomedad
Willingness to say crazy stuff the base likes + some measure of celebrity = 2012 candidate!
Nothing else seems to matter.
Elie
While we poke fun of the right wing as becoming more and more detached from reality testing, it is no laughing matter. They truly do seem to be making up their own reality to suit their needs — some sort of mass psychosis to be sure, but it effectively seals them off from learning and change.
To me, they seem to be getting worse, not better. They loose the crazies through their hate speech (for which none of them will take responsibility for) and then just step back and “let it happen”.
We are in very dangerous times and without leadership pushing another value, the Republican party is becoming a tribe in its psychology and emotions — like the Hutus or Tutsis — the only value is to destroy the other and reinforce your own tribal identity. There is no learning, no change or convincing them of anything. The point of view and the identity, the motivation is fixed.
I guess what I think that we need to do is move away from spending time just talking about how crazy they are to what can be done about it. That is the part that troubles me as I have not seen any effect of learning or change — just digging in and fighting with more and more absurd stances and ideology.
How do you treat mass psychosis?
El Bandito Blancito
The GOP squad has an incredibly deep bench of douchebags that they can throw into the rotation.
They are like the New England Patriots of political fail.
gocart mozart
Sadly Elie, it will have to burn itself out. Better to mock the flames then curse them.
drumwolf
@Fwiffo:
California’s reputation as a staunchly blue liberal state is a bit exaggerated and misleading. My state has ALWAYS had a very sizable neanderthal wingnut presence, especially inland. And it only became an overwhelmingly blue state relatively recently.
The image of California being a leftist hippie state comes from the coasts, and the reason we’re a blue state is because of said coastal liberals combined with a big Latino population. But there are a LOT of California residents who are every bit as neanderthal as any neo-Confederate fundie Dominionist in the Old South.
Anne Laurie
Hey, a crazy white supremacist just tried to shoot up the Holocaust Memorial. The fReichtards demand that their anchorpods “balance” news reports about von Brunn with a “Look, crazy Negro persons, also!” story… for which Rev. Wright is always an easy ‘get’.
Yah, I wish I was kidding, too.
Jim-Bob
@yellow:
Neither. Magical Mormon underwear for all.
Zuzu's Petals
@JGabriel:
Actually, that’s scriptural:
There may be other examples, but that’s the one that comes to mind.
bayville
Admittedly, I’m late to the party on this Prejean matter, but I don’t get the comparison between (beautifully) Trump-manufactured Beauty Contestant controversy and Joe The Plumber.
As bizarre as it might seem, her views on gay marriage aren’t that far out of the (current) mainstream and she is way to the left of some so-called progressives (see multiple stories on Dem New York Senate defections, as an example).
As far as I can tell, she isn’t Anita Bryant and unlike a certain fake plumber she hasn’t been corresponding from the Middle East to comment on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict for PJTV.
Bubblegum Tate
Well, I’m sure you’ll all be relieved to know that Breitbart’s Big Hollywood is on the case, championing the cause of this empty-head and serving as her unofficial PR firm.
asiangrrlMN
@bayville: Maybe during the pageant, but not afterwards when she joined NOM. I don’t give a shit about her. Whatever. Let her fifteen minutes be over.
@Anne Laurie: You got it, Anne Laurie. More of the fake equivalency.
As for Rahm, he’s HOT.
@Elie: You don’t. Not as long as their is such widespread support for it from certain quarters.
As for what to wear in heaven, if it’s truly heaven, then the answer would be nothing at all.
roseyv
“No word yet on whether free-balling is allowed under those robes, but I’m guessing “no.” ”
In Heaven, there will be no genitals.
binzinerator
@JGabriel:
Mine too.
I always thought they wore some kind of a toga. Like I saw in Animal House.
But I’m stoked about the bathrobe. I like my bathrobe. It’s fleece, so it’s soft and comfy and warm, and has just enough wear to make it feel ‘broken in’.
I wonder if they let you take your own bathrobe with you when you go? Surely they know how much I’d like to have my own bathrobe. The least they could do is provide one like it. I’d feel shamefully nekkid without it.
Since they know my size and everything then surely they know what kind I like.
I’m going to try extra hard to be a good christian so I can lounge for eternity in my bathrobe. Who wouldn’t want that?
Mr Blifil
But, but, but…if you are wearing a bathrobe in heaven, and you are a dude, what happens if you “throw a slider?”
And what happens to penises in heaven anyway? Is there procreation among the angels. If so, sign me up.
bayville
@asiangrrlMN
Agreed, but my confusion is why do some of the so-called high-profile liberals in the media hold a beauty contestant pageant to a higher standard on the subject of equal rights for gay people – than, say, the current POTUS and the three most recent Democratic POTUS candidates.
Seems like her talking point when asked that obviously Trump-planted question was similiar to the talking points uttered in years past by the Clintons, Gore, Edwards, Kerry and Obama.
binzinerator
@Elie:
I’m thinking the mass psychosis phenomenon is less Rwanda of the 90s and more Weimar of the 20’s.
I’m not trying to Godwin the thread, but when we’re talking about mass psychosis and a society that can’t handle reality and instead replaces it with a version populated with bogeymen and scapegoats of their own creation so as to salvage an internal cultural narrative, a society which then clings to these phantasms even though brings misery and greater upheaval than would have been experienced if they had actually faced the truth. It becomes harder and harder to talk about certain historical precedents (or at least certain societies that seemed to manifest some kind of mass psychosis) without at least brushing against Godwin’s sleeve.
As for treating it, I don’t know if there’s a way. How can you change someone’s mind where everything, no matter how disastrously it undermines their narrative, is always perceived to be instead as reinforcing their narrative? (I’m reminded of the B-J running joke where anything and everything is good news for John McCain. But the humor stems from the authentic psychology behind it. The right really does see everything as validating their beliefs.)
I see others have thought it has to run its course. But that bothers me. It’s a terrible helpless feeling watching the deluded and the weak-minded who are willing to kill to keep from facing the truth.
KarenC, assuming there isn't one here already
Not sure it’s psychosis, necessarily. It’s more like a giant cult. We need deprogrammers.
(Coming out of lurkdom. Hello.)
binzinerator
@binzinerator:
From superfly, from another B-J thread posted after this one, regarding DougJ’s speculation on when the right will blame liberals for the rightwing terrorism at the holocaust museum:
How can you change someone’s mind where everything, no matter how disastrously it undermines their narrative, is always perceived to be instead as reinforcing their narrative? I have no idea. Not when involves millions of minds.
@KarenC
I have no idea what to call it. When more than 20 million people (Rush’s purported audience) think like this, can it still be considered a cult? At what point is such a thing no longer a cult and becomes instead part of the character of a society?
HyperIon
@JGabriel:
Last night I was perusing the current issue of The New Yorker and came across a longish cartoon by R. Crumb! He did the first part of Genesis without snark.
While reading it, I was struck at how obsesses God was with nakedness. Recall that Adam and Eve don’ t know they are naked until they eat of the forbidden tree (and then they immediately go and get fig leaf coverings). And when Adam tells God they were hiding from him because they were naked, God immediately concludes that they must have eaten from the tree or else how would Adam know he was naked.
So God knows about nakedness and is OK with it until Adam and Eve figure out they are naked. God sounds like a bit of a perv here. Anyway I had forgotten that being ashamed of nakedness is deeply embedded in Judaic religions.
Q. When God was walking in the Garden looking for A&E, what was HE wearing?
prospero
burnsbpesq:
I assume what might be bothering a few people, just the slightest bit, is the anti-Semitism in the form and substance of your defense of Rev. Wright. I hear that tends to get some people angered up these days, for whatever reason. Go figure. But, you know, keep shinin’ on, you crazy diamond.
burnspbesq
@prospero:
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that you are reacting to my first comment without the benefit of having read the second.
If not, you’ve managed to completely miss the point I was trying to make.
Anti-semitic? “He don’t know me vewwy well, do he?”
Little Dreamer
@Elie:
Wait til they lose about six huge elections, and hope they discover a voice from the wilderness to lead them back to sanity soon after?
Unforunately these things take time, let’s hope they don’t go postal in the interim.
Little Dreamer
@binzinerator:
A cult has nothing to do with size, it has everything to do with beliefs.
Dictionary.com description of a cult here. It says nothing about how many adherents are involved, just how strange and extreme the beliefs are.
Christianity is a cult (billions of adherents, believe that the entire world was made by an invisible man in the sky who left us a manual of how to live, based on laws that were completely at odds with the stories that were portrayed (lots of killing when they were told NOT to kill) and yet… that’s only the OLD TESTAMENT (don’t even ask about the cognitive dissonance between the old one and the new one, better we not go there).
Little Dreamer
You know, you bring up an interesting point, in the beginning (and even quite often still to this day) social beings tended to settle and set up communities on the coasts because of the availability of water. Could this be part of their problem?
Little Dreamer
@binzinerator:
Is it made of mixed threads? If so, the answer is NO.
Little Dreamer
@HyperIon:
His Earth Day suit. ;)
burnspbesq
@Little Dreamer:
It’s an over-simplification to say that the coast is blue and the interior is red. I live in OC, and let me assure you that this is Wingnut Central.
Little Dreamer
@burnspbesq:
I’m fully aware of that, I was just kidding. My repub family lived on the coast too.