I’ve been a little disappointed by the lack of birtherist rhetoric from the teabaggers disrupting the townhall meetings, the Mike Castle incident notwithstanding. But I recently hit the jackpot on a local teabagger google group (no link — you have to join the group):
In case anyone has any doubts about what is coming, local, state, and federal governments have the authority to mandate vaccination once a particular health emergency is declared. The word is MANDATE, as in MANDATORY. They are under no obligation to grant exemptions and in case you are wondering, you will not likely be getting one. The only possible exemption is to get wout of town but, really, there will be no place to go as this will certainly be a federal issue. We are being hyped up right now to willingly accept their unproven swine flu vaccine which is ostensibly designed to PROTECT us against a so called flu strain which from all indications is less potent than any ordinary flu strain. Why then the need to vaccinate everyone against something like that? Why indeed? Why the need to pass legislation for trillions of dollars in new spending to solve a problem which barely exists and do it all within 2 weeks? Why pass a $787 billion so called “stimulus” plan without debate and with no one having read the bill? Why have an administration whose chief antagonist is a guy with no birth certificate and with no one willing to ask him for one? Imagine that. Hwe could end the entire controversy immediately and gain legitimacy and would be able to prove his detractors as fools, thus gaining hugely increased political power and further leverage to push his agenda simply by producing his birth certificate. Not a fake computer generated copy but a real one. All he has to do is open his sock drawer, reach in, pull out his birth certificate and present it to the world, thus making fools of his detractors. What could be easier?
[…..]Look at the following.
If you’re scoring at home, that’s birtherism, anti-vaccination craziness, and a link to an Alex Jones article, all in one post.
Here’s the kind of stuff that scares me (from the same group):
Yes, some will be hurt, some will be killed, but our resolve to fight for freedom will only grow stronger. Obama is a fascist and until the majority of the citizens of this country realize that is not an exaggeration or the first word that I could think of, this will continue. Once we all realize who he is and stand together we will defeat him and remove him from power.
Alien-radio
Are you proposing a grand unified theory of peak wingnut?
demkat620
This is just more of the same thing.
“Why do you keep making me hit you?”
RandomChick
Wait, so is this guy saying that H1N1 barely exists, and health care legislation is designed merely to combat this that?
Or is the health care issue a problem that barely exists?
I’d lay $ on this guy being on Medicare.
YellowJournalism
I just don’t get the whole “didn’t read the bill/plan/proposal” argument that seems to pop up no matter what the subject is (stimulus, health care, etc.), especially because these people never seem to have read the piece, either. And they really need to get better dictionaries. The amount of words misused always astounds me.
That last blockquote is quite freaky, too. Makes one seriously afraid for our president, his family, and members of his administration.
eric U
I have actually started to wonder if we might be approaching some level of wingnuttiness that will represent “peak wingnut.” I suspect that they will work themselves into such a froth that they will start sloughing off the more sane wingnuts who will then become productive members of society. Not sure what achieving an actual peak will take at this point though.
Johnny Coelacanth
I hope you’re forwarding the scarier messages to the Secret Service. Fuckin’ nutjobs.
Ejoiner
Obama could really just put this all behind us if he would only do the right thing and stop being president. It’s what’s best for the country.
cleek
be sure to read the comments at that infowar link!
they’ve got some grade-A, black-helicopter, fascist-conspiracy wingnuttery going on!
Johnny Coelacanth
“Obama could really just put this all behind us if he would only do the right thing and stop being
presidentblack. It’s what’s best for the country.”fixd
gbear
Obama could really just put this all behind us if he would only do the right thing and stop being
presidentblack.Also & more so. That’s the reason these people are going insane. They were never this frothy about Clinton’s policies.
Brick Oven Bill
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we’ll bring a gun.”
“Hit them back twice as hard.”
“I’m the only thing standing between you and the pitchforks.”
“I don’t want them to talk.”
These are Obama’s words about large groups of American Citizens. Clinton did not talk like this. Obama is not setting a very good example regarding consolidation and post-partisanship. I believe that he just expressed those words on the campaign trail in order to get elected. Obama seems to be much more friendly towards the government of Iran than he is to his domestic political opposition.
In any case, the Rochester group is very healthy, growing, and representative. There are 41 spots remaining if you want to go to Bathtub Billy’s on the 22nd Doug and check things out. I attribute this groundswell of interest in the Constitution to the President.
It is strange for a President to swear allegiance to a document that he has described as ‘fundamentally flawed’ and ‘stained’. People might be starting to believe that his Oath of Office might be nothing more than more empty words that he really didn’t mean.
Proper Gander
Obama is a fascist and until the majority of the citizens of this country realize that is not an exaggeration
The author is correct- this is not an exaggeration. For it to be an exaggeration, there would have to be a smidgen of truth to it.
Gold Star for Robot Boy
Ugh.
Can someone please post the link to that pie script?
Thx.
Third Eye Open
I used to be a frequent reader of the Alex Jones site. After Waking Life came out he got a nice little bump from people who were curious what this guy’s rant was really all about.
After about a year of flirting with some of the premises there I had an epiphany. Their entire world-view is based on a simple concept: “If even 10% of what I say is true, we are in real trouble.” How do you fight that kind of stupidity? If I can show that the mundane facts of the case are true, then it gives me license to believe the stupid shit that is pure fantasy.
I still like Waking Life, although I tend to laugh-off the Jones rant now, rather than nodding my head in approval.
Jim
You don’t have to dig too deep to find birtherism and health care thuggery grandly united. Here’s someone called John Sullivan, who is apparently a backbencher from Oklahoma
This is a scary time in Washington,” he said. “It’s a very frightening time. I see Barack Obama is creating an enemies list of people who oppose this miserable health care plan. I think that’s frightening. That’s from a guy that can’t even show a long-form birth certificate. I think we all ought to be prepared to fight that.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/08/sullivan-birther/
gbear
@Brick Oven Bill:
BOB, I know a lot of folks here like to engage your blather, but the only thought that comes to mind when I read your posts is ‘My god, what a pud this guy is’. I’ll butt out now and just go back to scrolling past whenever I see your name.
RSA
My emphasis. I realize this might just be poor wording, but I half-suspect that the writer doesn’t understand why, when we’re talking about potential pandemic diseases, reaching everyone is kind of the point.
CaseyL
They were never this frothy about Clinton’s policies.
You have a short memory.
Actually, no; I think it might be more accurate to note that theWeb was by no means as ubiquitous as it is now, and therefore every loon in country did not at that time have access to a virtual megaphone.
However, I am very damn sure people were “this forthy” about Clinton’s policies, based on the craziness we did see.
Remember the video Jerry Falwell marketed about Clintonian drug trafficking, drug use, and murder? The people who bought that video (in both senses of the word) didn’t go away, you know. They’re still around, and they’re now the backbone of the teabagger/ screamer/RW nutcase constituency.
That’s the only comfort I’m finding, these days, is that those crazies have always been around; they’re just more noticeable these days because everyone has that virtual megaphone.
I don’t know if they’re actually, really more dangerous. On the one hand, they have access to one another, and therefore more reinforcement for their psychosis. On the other, they’re also more visible and accesible to law enforcement, so easier to keep tabs on.
I did read recently that Obama’s Secret Service detail has to deal with 2 or 3 times as many threats as past Presidents. That worries me a lot – if Obama is killed, all bets about this country’s survivability are off.
cleek
here it be.
pie on.
Ash Can
@YellowJournalism:
Heck, it makes me feel nervous about myself, and my own family. That person could be here in my neighborhood, plotting god-knows-what with god-knows-who, and the thought of finding that sort of thing out only when it’s way too late doesn’t set well with me at all.
I’m all for everyone minding their own business and giving everyone their privacy. And there will always be cranks railing against politicians. But when these assholes start to threaten the community at large, they make their business my business, and everyone else’s. These activities need to be monitored, the more closely the better. Hats off to you, DougJ, for being willing to wade into this mess.
lotus
Bleeve John Sullivan needed a few more weeks at The Betty. He’s still got the D.T.s
YellowJournalism
@Jim: This is the new talking point. There was an editorial in my hometown newspaper that seems to have appeared in many other opinion pages in other papers. Its from a group claiming Obama is opposing freedom of speech by asking people to report misinformation and its sources.
bvac
Seriously, why don’t they just throw in a link to Lyndon LaRouche while they’re at it? http://www.larouchepac.com/health [warning: godwins law ahead]
This also brings up a good point: no matter what Obama does or says, they will spin it into their conspiracy theory. This is pretty bad, since “they” in this case is the entire Republican party, and not some wackos on usenet and talk radio.
kay
@Jim:
I love that they were all for attending town meetings until the opposition showed up, and now it’s “unfair”.
“Unfair” to a conservative is when there’s two sides. Basically and intrinsically undemocratic. They don’t buy the whole idea.
Plus, they’re weenies. They’re really going to whine that they don’t have the floor completely to themselves at something called a “town hall meeting”?
Talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations. “We only win when the other side doesn’t show up”. Imagine how they were in grammar school.
Travis
@cleek: cleek, thanks much for writing that script. I’ve been running it for about two weeks. it really lifts my mood not to read B.O.B., and the pie jokes it substitutes for his comments are not getting old at all.
kay
It’s also unfair that Obama/Biden send a lawyer to oppose the birther lawsuits. You mean…they RESPONDED? Oh, the humanity. What’s with them? Dirty pool!
Because it’s incumbent on all of us to hand the morons any small victory they manage to eke out, or it’s “unfair”.
Give Orly a trophy, for trying. That would be fair.
Brick Oven Bill
Here is the snitch page. This is another thing that is goofy about this Administration. Holder was obviously not appointed because of his knowledge as an attorney.
In a law passed in response to Nixon’s abuses, the President is not allowed to collect names of Citizens, but this is exactly what he is doing with his snitch program. This is illegal. But now these brain-children are in a bind because the White House is not allowed to destroy information.
If nothing else, these guys are fun to watch. Now I have to go. Sorry gbear.
SGEW
You want peak wingnut? I’ll show you peak wingnut:
The Dread Forum of WND, responding to the question: “Is America on the Verge of Revolution?”
Link. (Warning! Link leads to WorldNetDaily forum, which may cause eye damage, nausea, and physical fear)
Just skimmed through it, and it’s filled, filled, with apocalyptic god talk, Alex Jones talking points, tea bagging, Birtherisms, Obamacare Death Camps, anti-vax paranoia, and a couple of people who sound a lot like our B.O.B.
Oh, and violent rhetoric. Lots of violent rhetoric.
Watching WND turn from Coulter land to Free Republic to Stormfront over the years has been kind of interesting.
JMG
I can hardly wait to read the trolls after some loony makes an actionable threat against Obama and is charged by the Secret Service. A new martyr for freedom!!!
gizmo
For all their manly bluster, the Teabag/Birther types are such scared, cowardly little people.
The Grand Panjandrum AKA Americans for America
Sarah Palin: (I couldn’t bring myself to link directly to Palin’s Facebook page so I linked to Harold Pollack’s piece at TNR. He has a link to her page and has excerpted her entire post.)
It’s not just the fringe. The leadership continues to egg them on.
Palin/Bachmann 2012? THAT would be G.U.C.
The Grand Panjandrum AKA Americans for America
@gizmo: So were the militia yokels in the 90’s. McVeigh was an offshoot of that crowd.
JGabriel
Brick Oven Bill:
BOB, you and DougJ are neighbors ?
Now, there’s a beer summit I’d like to see.
Hey waitaminnit, how come we never see the two of you arguing together?
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kay
@gizmo:
I’ll say. How do you scream and yell about your right to take part in the democratic process, and then scream and yell when your opponent shows up?
WTF are they reading? There’s no founding document or principle that says you have an inherent right to screech unopposed.
I mean, if they’re going to jump head first into an adversarial process, like the legal system or a town hall debate, they should probably assume there will be an adversary, along, eventually. Shocked! There’s someone on the other side? This possibility wasn’t in the email I read!
Ash Can
@kay:
Undoubtedly they were always being sent out to the hall or to the pricipal’s office for talking in class and being disruptive, but it was never their fault, always someone else’s.
Anoniminous
The racism of the birthers is an old story to anyone – like me – who grew-up in the south under Jim Crow.
Blacks are not allowed be in positions of power over whites. Period.
Should a Negro attempt to be “uppity” …. well … there is always the lynch mob & that’s what we’re seeing. A bunch of people riling themselves up to drag Obama to the nearest tree.
shelley matheis
JK
Great Link Doug,
Alex Jones explaining why Obama is the Joker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGFw3hY20lM
Fuck the wingnuts, fuck their enablers in the MSM like Marc Ambinder and Mark Halperin, and fuck the goddamn NY Yankees
Kudos to Cole for the videos of Pink Floyd and the Police
WereBear
Whenever I see this kind of talk, I have a kind of imaginative flashback to their childhood, and it chills me.
Based on people I’ve known, it could be summed up as, “Daddy used to beat the shit out of me, and I turned out all right.”
Christ on a pony, NO. You didn’t “turn out all right.” And your refusal to face that fact means your kids are going to say the same thing when they grow up.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Brick Oven Bill: How is it none of the smart here ever rubs off on you?
You just keep repeating the same stupid shit, get shot down, and then come back and repeat the same stupid shit. Yer like a broken troll record. If you aren’t going to engage in good-faith discussion at least do us the courtesy of keeping yer shit fresh and interesting.
Christ, I’m near to pie-ing on you myself and I could be the most tolerant person you will ever not know.
shelley matheis
Oh, and meant to ask. What, if anything, is being said now in Birther-land about the supposed Kenyan birth certificate, now that it’s been revealed as a fake?
cleek
:)
well, i try to add a few new ones every week or so. just to keep things fresh.
kay
@Ash Can:
They ran away and told when their opponent showed up. After starting the fight.
I honestly don’t get the sense of entitlement. It is “democracy” for industry groups to organize conservatives to go to town hall meetings. It is “thuggery” for unions to do so.
Who buys this nonsense?
jenniebee
@CaseyL: I dunno, I think the townhall stuff we’re seeing now, where it goes past the usual tinfoil-hat looniness and into the tinfoil-hat & friends looniness is different from Clinton.
What really bothers me is that Boehner and other Congressional Republican leaders are openly egging this on. And the violence at these meetings has started – see Tbogg’s latest for that. If the physical violence escalates (and I don’t see any reason to believe it won’t) and we don’t see an about-face from the establishment right-wing authority figures currently supporting the teabaggers (and I don’t see any reason to believe we will) then we’re heading into some pretty scary shit.
asiangrrlMN
Fuck them. They are a bunch of cowardly, whiny, sniveling pussies who would run away at the first sign of real danger.
President Obama, if you read this blog or one of your administration staff does, please note: There isn’t anything you can do to get these people to accept you. NOTHING. That includes most of the fucking GOP Congress people, too. So, it’s time to shrug aside the crazies and to change the societal narrative on the issues.
FUCK THEM.
Oh, and thank you Secret Service for all the hard work you do. I have a hunch you will be really busy as long as Obama is president.
kay
@Ash Can:
I mean, I know what it is. The original lie they’re selling is that the town hall meeting disrupters are organic. Therefore, the opposition should be organic.
The thing is, that isn’t how it works. If the success of your approach is dependent on your opponent not only believing your lies, but playing by your pretend-rules, that isn’t a fight.
I don’t know what that is. A lot of whining?
gbear
@JGabriel:
Mike Luckovich has it covered.
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/files/2009/07/mike07282009.jpg
JGabriel
@shelley matheis:
Some are saying “It’s a fake, let’s move on,”; others are saying, “It’s a fake, let’s ignore Orly Taitz from now on and move on.”
And then there’s the group that’s saying, “No, it’s not a fake! It’s the Aussie birth certificate that’s a fake! Can’t you see? Obama, that foreign islamofascist blackity blackity black black black freak, has foiled us again!”
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Ash Can
@kay: “I don’t know what that is.”
The word “delusion” comes to mind.
JK
Gingrich Defends Palin’s Obama “Death Panel” Claim
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/09/gingrich-defends-palins-o_n_254926.html
JGabriel
@cleek:
Hmmph. That’s more than BOB does.
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Maus
that the birthers/truthers/teabaggers are also antivaccinationists is no surprise.
Fulcanelli
@Brick Oven Bill: BoB, the only thing “fundamentally flawed” and “stained” exists both between your ears, and your pathetic “cause”.
zhak
Sigh.
Fascism is an extreme rightwing ideology. Period.
eastriver
I linked through to read the comments thread. My god we live in a country full of stupid. And when angry and stupid get together and buy a gun? Holy Batshit.
I pity any progressives that live in the middle of these conservative swamps. It must be akin to living in a nightmare.
This is getting fucking scary.
racrecir
Aren’t there Halliburton detention centers in need of re-purposing?
YellowJournalism
Thanks, BOB, for the link to that White House page. I was wondering what, exactly the hub-bub was all about after reading the opinion piece this morning. And after looking over the page, not once does it ask for the name of a person or group. It only asks for the misinformation, the incorrect bullshit being relayed by chain mail and rumour. There’s no worry about anyone turning Glenn Beck in to the President’s administration for re-education camp.
paulbrown
All the screeching about guns by the wingnutcrazies brings to mind one simple fact about the 2nd amendment that they seem to fail to understand. I and my combat-veteran lefty friends are all armed to the teeth, too.
And as far as their blusterings about some having to die for their “cause”. We will gladly fulfill their wishes.
But we’d rather not have it come to that. It’s their call….
Gold Star for Robot Boy
@cleek: Thank ya.
kay
@YellowJournalism:
“not once does it ask for the name of a person or group. It only asks for the misinformation, the incorrect bullshit being relayed by chain mail and rumour. There’s no worry about anyone turning Glenn Beck in to the President’s administration for re-education camp.”
It’ll go as well as a legal process as the birther lawsuits did. When you start with nonsense, you can’t really pretty it up all that much.
This is what they’re claiming. The President, alone among Americans, cannot push back in any way at what are blatant, ridiculous lies. The President cannot state a lie that is directed at both him personally and his policy, and refute it.
Imagine if this one-sided argument dream were true. Scary, huh? The nuts would be running the asylum.
They’re pissed off because once again they entered an adversarial process, a debate or a legal process, and their opponent had the temerity to show up and defend. That’s not fair, and they shouldn’t have to put up with it.
bob h
And I’d be willing to bet that the author lost his job in the downturn, lost his healthcare with it, and is living on extended unemployment benefits and COBRA assitance provided by the stimulus bill.
kommrade reproductive vigor
I know the Secrete Service* recently got a huge chunk of money. I bet they’re hiring. I bet they’d pay me to scan the intertubes for this kind of shit. But they probably wouldn’t allow the amount of on the job drinking that I’d need in order to get through the day. So forget it.
*Insert wingnut freak out about the initials.
Bubblegum Tate
All I know is I’m terrified that Obama is going to sap and impurify my precious bodily fluids.
SGEW
@Bubblegum Tate: Luckily you were able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.
Zuzu's Petals
Okay, I’ve just left a message with the RNC (202-863-8500) that they’ve gone over the line with the disinformation on health care, not to mention inciting mob violence, and that I plan to donate to the DNC today, and will donate to and work for the opponent of any GOP politician who is part of this disgraceful stunt.
Anybody got a list of politician’s names?
Notorious P.A.T.
“Obama is a fascist and that is not the first word that I could think of”
He doth protest too much.
kth
Just curious if they plan to wait until the next election and vote him out, or do they have something else in mind. Some clarification would seem to be called for.
Chris Johnson
Read recent Orcinus.
The fact that name GOP politicians are doubling down on this stuff means that they intend to ride the tiger. They may not be planning things out in a tactical sense- hell, the GOP didn’t even do that for Iraq! but they know exactly what they intend to do.
Those people want their leaders to seize power, and the leaders want power back and don’t really care how they get it.
This-all is really kind of freaking me out. orcinus nailed it: the GOP wasn’t actively fascist before, just latent-fascist, but right now what they want to see is violent revolution with them installed as King. (I’m not sure who gets to be King- Palin, maybe? Anybody who will take orders, which means not Limbaugh)
IF they end up getting their violent revolution and IF they manage to seize power, then they’ll be full-on Fascists in the traditional sense, and the country will have a new and much more informal army.
IF it all goes wrong for them somehow, we’ll try to carry on as best we can.
Even the Germans still deal with modern-day fascists, and they are some of the most wary people out there about that. Nothing will make our fascists go away, and we’re not gonna kill them, but I don’t want to see them even temporarily in power through THAT avenue. I lived with them semi-legitimately in power for years. I flat DO NOT WANT them seizing power back violently. It would be really bad for them. It would be everything we’ve seen over and over again before.
Mnemosyne
Rush Limbaugh doesn’t have a birth certificate?
Screamin' Demon
Silly rabbit. As if. The GOP wants a woman in charge about as much as they do a black man. They’re not just racist. They practice that other -ist, too. There’s no way in hell they’d ever let Sarah Palin run the show. They’ll crush her in the ’12 primaries.
Screamin' Demon
Jeebus. -ism, not -ist.
Can’t edit posts anymore. Sucks.
Mike G
Shorter teabag-birthers:
You’ll never give me a public health insurance option, you…YOU SOSHULUST!!
Give me no health care, or give me death!
Chris Johnson
Yeah, and Eva Peron wasn’t charismatic either. Also too.
We’re not talking about IN CHARGE. We’re talking about a story that can be used as a legitimacy myth. It wouldn’t matter if it was Tunch being made king. Who’s in CHARGE is a variety of right wing politicians joined at the hip with REALLY BIG industries like insurance, banking, credit cards. We don’t vote for those anyway so your point is moot.
If appointing Palin President would result in a malleable idiot with ‘popular appeal’, that’s exactly what the GOP would rush to do in a coup. Issues no longer mean anything when it’s only about power.
Palin has more popular appeal than say Limbaugh, more charisma than say Bobby Jindal, and the news would be told to say that she had enormous public support. The news is ALREADY told to say or not say things, witness the O’Reilly/Olbermann feud being muzzled. These are complicated times. Back in the days of ‘Mission accomplished’ the press was muzzled much better than this. Those days could be put back with suitable cooperation from a new government, i.e. junta.
PaminBB
@Mnemosyne:
“Why have an administration whose chief antagonist is a guy with no birth certificate…”
I had the same thought. Someone doesn’t know the meaning of the word “antagonist”.
I think it’s time for all the birthers to start posting their own birth certificates on line. Preferably with their SS#’s so that we can be sure that’s who they are. I’m sure there is some nice gentleman in Africa who would be happy to compile these.
Of Bugs and Books
@Zuzu’s Petals: One quick resource for U.S. congress persons here: http://www.opencongress.org/ Also has button for ‘Bills’. Credit in this case goes to http://www.congressmatters.com/ and the ever-amazing people at DKos.
Zuzu's Petals
@Of Bugs and Books:
Thanks. I’m mostly thinking of the ones who are publicly fanning the flames and inciting the mobs with purposefully bad information.
Zuzu's Petals
@Zuzu’s Petals:
Okay, my first donation went to Obama’s “Organizing for America” site. I want him to succeed, and I want others to notice that he can still get the support.
Next, signed up for any “event” close by. Maybe I’ll even volunteer to make phone calls.
Then, on to defeating the GOP obstructionists.
I’m getting inspired to act.
SiubhanDuinne
Nearly 20 years ago, Newt was my representative. This was several years before he was whip or speaker — he was an ordinary backbencher. I occasionally had reason to contact his office, sometimes as a private citizen/constituent and sometimes in my professional capacity. In each case I would identify myself and why I was calling, and politely ask for a return call. In no case did I EVER ONCE get a callback or acknowledgement. The guy, and by extension every member of his DC and local district staff, cared nothing about simple everyday good manners, let alone good political or business practice. I wrote him off as anyone I wanted to deal with several years before most of the country had even heard his name. In the intervening two decades, I haven’t seen any reason to change my mind.
BTW — if you go to the Wikipedia entry on Newt Gingrich (unless someone has caught it and removed it in the last hour or so) the very first sentence defines him as “an American politician and stupidska . . . . ”
Hahahahaha, stupidska!
Aunt Moe
All that ‘fight for freedom’ talk – it’s pure romanticism. They want to be heroic and are busy talking themselves into doing something about it.
Molly
@paulbrown: “All the screeching about guns by the wingnutcrazies brings to mind one simple fact about the 2nd amendment that they seem to fail to understand. I and my combat-veteran lefty friends are all armed to the teeth, too.”
Yes, they seem to forget this, no? It’s like they believe all of us are herbal tea-drinking poets who would be knocked backwards by the recoil of a shotgun…
My 84 year-old great aunt still hangs out on her porch with her shotgun, blasting armadillos out of her yard. “fraid the old bird would do the same to any right-winger on her lawn. :)
Molly
@paulbrown: “All the screeching about guns by the wingnutcrazies brings to mind one simple fact about the 2nd amendment that they seem to fail to understand. I and my combat-veteran lefty friends are all armed to the teeth, too.”
Yes, they seem to forget this, no? It’s like they believe all of us are herbal tea-drinking poets who would be knocked backwards by the recoil of a shotgun…
My 84 year-old great aunt still hangs out on her porch with her shotgun, blasting armadillos out of her yard. “fraid the old bird would do the same to any right-winger on her lawn. :)
BruceFromOhio
These fuckers want another civil war, straight up. The economic disparity, racism, jingoism and proud displays of ignorance and disruption speak to an escalating cycle of violence easily visible elsewhere (Shining Path, Taliban, Hamas, et fucking al)
The fever is going to go pretty high to kill off the infection. I give it 90 days that we see a shooting at a town hall meeting, courtesy of Glen Beck and his flying monkeys.
Please, dear Gaia, please let me be wrong, wrong, wrong.
Wile E. Quixote
This is why I despise Republicans/Conservatives/Wingnuts and think that they ought to be rounded up, put in camps and sold to the Red Chinese and North Korea as disposable slave labor. These assholes did nothing for eight years while a stupidly incompetent president and a dangerously inept administration allowed the most devastating attack on US soil to occur, allowed the perpetrator of that attack to escape destruction at Tora Bora, started a war that had nothing to do with the country that attacked us, massively increased the size of the government, ran roughshod over the Constitution and civil liberties, massively increased our deficit and debt and turned everything they touched into shit. These fucking scumbags who are so concerned about freedom did nothing when a white man was doing everything he could to destroy freedom and destroy America, but when a black man comes along and tries to reform the health care system they all of a sudden shit their pants and talk about defeating this evil usurper before he can destroy our freedoms.
These people are just too goddamned stupid to live and breed and they sure as Hell don’t deserve to live in a free country. Let’s send the bastards over to North Korea. They’ll love Kim Jong Il, he’s a good-for-nothing fuck-up of a daddy’s boy who lets a shadowy junta dictate his every move. He’s the North Korean version of George W. Bush and the Republicans will love him.
Steeplejack
@Wile E. Quixote:
Excellent rant, bro’.
Chris Baldwin
I get the feeling a lot of these people’s main problem with Obama, once all is said and done, is that he’s black. That’s the only viable explanation for the level of vitriol.
BC
All I can say is – these are members of the 801st Keyboard Kommand. They are sunshine soldiers fantasizing about how they are leaders and capable of summoning others to kill and die for them. They have no intention of going out and doing any of this themselves – they shirked their duty in Viet Nam when we still had the draft and they weren’t up to volunteering for Iraq. But the fantasy they are building up is great for them. Just hope no one – either on our side or theirs – gets hurt in trying to live up to any of these fantasies.