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Monday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  August 24, 20097:18 pm| 107 Comments

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Long day today, and this sums up my feelings:

longday

Is there anything better than tomato sandwiches and iced tea for dinner? I think not.

Talk amongst yourselves.

BTW- Saw the Pilot for Warehouse 13 last night and thought it was a fun show. I’m going to try to catch a couple episodes On Demand.

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  1. 1.

    Stooleo

    August 24, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    My tomatoes had blight this year too. I need to solarize the ground.

    http://www.ehow.com/how_4037_solarize-soil.html

  2. 2.

    Demo Woman

    August 24, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    A fresh bagel, cream cheese and a slice of tomato microwaved for 20 seconds is heaven.

  3. 3.

    General Winfield Stuck

    August 24, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    tomato sandwiches

    Where’s the Beef?

  4. 4.

    Demo Woman

    August 24, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Lily is such a beauty and you are so lucky that she found you.

  5. 5.

    shelley matheis

    August 24, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    Tomatoes, eh? From the pic, I thought Lily had gone apple picking

  6. 6.

    Robertdsc-iphone

    August 24, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    After the touch of flu I had this weekend, food does not appeal to me. Snapple Raspberry tea in the 32 ounce bottle sounds good, though.

  7. 7.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 24, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Yes (in answer to your question, Cole).

    I would like it to be eighty degrees cooler, thank you very much.

  8. 8.

    schrodinger's cat

    August 24, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    How is the boss kitteh Tunch?

  9. 9.

    eric

    August 24, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    that is not at all what people eat in Real America. Your elitist northeastern ways are disgusting.

    Try something more authentically American like nova lox, cream cheese and bagel, with tomato slices on side with fresh ground pepper.

    eric

  10. 10.

    asiangrrlMN

    August 24, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    P.S. Lily is a sweetie, of course.

  11. 11.

    JK

    August 24, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Kudos to Neal Gabler for this right on the money op-ed
    ‘Truth’ vs. ‘facts’ from America’s media
    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-gabler23-2009aug23,0,4834705.story

    Stupid Article of the Day
    Obama’s Plan to Desecrate 9/11
    http://spectator.org/archives/2009/08/24/obamas-plan-to-desecrate-911

  12. 12.

    General Winfield Stuck

    August 24, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    Ground turkey and yes sliced maters and a small baked tater and Maucha iced tea. It is cooler today and we have gotten rain with more expected, so life is good even if the country is going insane.

  13. 13.

    Rey

    August 24, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Grilled catfish, tomato/ red onion salad and sliced honeydew for a sweet treat. Lily is so sweet!

    Breaking news…

    Murder she wrote for Michael Jackson- Larry King has finally got a show line-up until August 2010….

  14. 14.

    eric

    August 24, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    @Rey: Larry King? Nancy Grace just sacrificed a small farm animal as a burnt offering to the FSM for her good fortune.

    eric

  15. 15.

    Joshua Norton

    August 24, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Warehouse is on Hulu, also. I’ve been watching it on SyFy. They’re on about Episode 5 now.

  16. 16.

    Quaker in a Basement

    August 24, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Is there anything better than tomato sandwiches and iced tea for dinner?

    Yes, there is! Tomato sandwiches, ice tea and peach cobbler for dessert!

  17. 17.

    JK

    August 24, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    The logic of Larry “No Quarter” Johnson

    “It is worth remembering that in the midst of the current health care debate the Democrats are treating the Republicans and critics in the same fashion that Republicans treated Democrats and critics who spoke out against the Bush Administration’s use of fear tactics to bolster its political support. It is Deja Vu all over again. I guess we will have to just wait and see who will be the Tom Ridge of the Obama Administration.”

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/08/22/tom-ridge-finally-comes-clean

  18. 18.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 24, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Damn, you cooks make me hungry. i had taco hell and a dr pepper.

  19. 19.

    KG

    August 24, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    Is there anything better than tomato sandwiches and iced tea for dinner?

    Yes, yes there is. First, replace the tomato sandwich with steak, or grilled shrimp. Second, make sure the iced tea is from Long Island, or find a solid microbrew.

  20. 20.

    gwangung

    August 24, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    @Quaker in a Basement:

    I….got nothing to that.

  21. 21.

    me

    August 24, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Where’s the Beef?

    No! Needs Bacon!

  22. 22.

    Emily's Forests

    August 24, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Homemade pizza, Chicago-style deep dish, with dough I made last week so it’s been fermenting happily in the fridge, plus amazing pepperoni from the Italian deli across town. Also spinach, so I can pretend that something with four pounds of cheese is “healthy.”

  23. 23.

    Rey

    August 24, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    @eric

    yeah I think all of the cable news talkers got a thrill up their leg when hearing this news. Tweety even led off with it. Who would have thunk it? a Michael Jackson homicide… This means that Jermaine will be on my teevee every night until December. This has got too be good news for Obama!

  24. 24.

    JK

    August 24, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    GOP Senators: US Faces Terrorist Attack if Holder Probes Bush’s Torture Program
    h/t http://www.truthout.org/082409R

  25. 25.

    CynDee

    August 24, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    Lily blooms.

  26. 26.

    General Winfield Stuck

    August 24, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    @JK:

    Well, at least they’re not talking about Death Panels, or are they? Maybe Obama plans to hire OBL as Sec. of Health/Human services/ After all, Kenya ain’t more than a stones throw from Pakistan, or wherever.

  27. 27.

    shelley matheis

    August 24, 2009 at 7:50 pm

    Murder she wrote for Michael Jackson- Larry King has finally got a show line-up until August 2010…

    Rey,
    You’re giving me the vapours!

  28. 28.

    Ty Lookwell

    August 24, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    What’s a “tomato sandwhich?”

    tomato and bread? Wha?

    is there, like, … oh, I don’t know… cheese, or mayo, or other stuff?

    This reminds me of when Ezra Klein was raving about “Pa amb tomàquet” and I looked at the recipe and thought… is this a joke?

  29. 29.

    cbear

    August 24, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    That is one fine-looking dog. A credit to her species.
    You’re a good man, John Cole.

  30. 30.

    Anne Laurie

    August 24, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Sweet Lily! She must be a day-Lily, ’cause I could just eat her right up. Sooo cheering to see her filling out and getting more confident with every photo. Good job, Mr. Cole!
    @Demo Woman:

    A fresh bagel, cream cheese and a slice of tomato microwaved for 20 seconds is heaven.

    I’m working on the perfect timing for a rye bread / provalone / homegrown tomato ‘panetta’ using our Foreman-style indoor grill. Even the near-misses are dam’ tasty.

  31. 31.

    Alan

    August 24, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    I like Warehouse 13. I think the writers are having a hard time figuring out if they want it to be a kid’s show or not. The male SS agent character needs to tone down the stupid a bit. Otherwise, the show has great potential.

  32. 32.

    Pavlov's Dog

    August 24, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    Lilly is starting to look “big-boned” like Tunch ;)

    Re Larry “Whitey” Johnson over at No IQ – The only reason I go over there anymore is to check his sitemeter. So far his traffic is down ninety percent and falling. The comments are still a hoot. What a bunch of nutters.

  33. 33.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 24, 2009 at 7:53 pm

    I swear, though, between the trolls and the health/care torture trolls,
    BJ commenting has left me exhausted today.

    @JK:

    GOP Senators: US Faces Terrorist Attack if Holder Probes Bush’s Torture Program

    Internal or external? Because I’m thinking the terrorists would just be happy to sit on the sidelines and watch us kill ourselves all off at this point, which seems to be where some in the wingnutosphere seem to be treading.

  34. 34.

    The next-to-last samurai

    August 24, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    What is nova lox? We had pizza. Tomorrow is our family’s weekly restaurant night.

  35. 35.

    JK

    August 24, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    @Rey: @eric:

    With Michael Jackson, Larry King is set until he retires and Campbell Brown and Anderson Cooper are set for the next 6 mths. Fuck the healthcare debate, CIA abuse of detainees, Republican obstructionism, Michael Jackson trumps everything.
    Now, MSNBC has an excuse to air Martin Bashir’s Michael Jackson documentray another 3 or 4 times.
    I’ve had it with this motherfucking Michael Jackson story. He’s still dead. What the fuck difference does it make how he died?

  36. 36.

    eric

    August 24, 2009 at 7:57 pm

    @JK: This is great news for John McCain!

  37. 37.

    InflatableCommenter

    August 24, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    Is there anything better than tomato sandwiches and iced tea for dinner?

    Nope. SATSQ, Tomato Edition.

  38. 38.

    Anne Laurie

    August 24, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    @Ty Lookwell:

    What’s a “tomato sandwhich?” tomato and bread? Wha?… is there, like, … oh, I don’t know… cheese, or mayo, or other stuff?

    With good enough ingredients — homegrown tomatoes and high-quality bread — you really don’t need anything else. But sure, some quality cheese, a little garlic aoili, basil, balsamic vinegar, even some bacon if you like. Thing is, fresh tomatoes are sooo incredible, and the season for them is so brief, you just wanna indulge while you can!

  39. 39.

    InflatableCommenter

    August 24, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Question:

    Is there a reason for the continued existence of Larry King on television?

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    August 24, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    @Emily’s Forests: You just made the Baby Jeebus cry.

  41. 41.

    General Winfield Stuck

    August 24, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I swear, though, between the trolls and the health/care torture trolls,
    BJ commenting has left me exhausted today.

    Yes, I’m not sure I wasn’t spoofing myself.

  42. 42.

    Corner Stone

    August 24, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    @JK: Keep on walking?

  43. 43.

    Seth 4:10

    August 24, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    I am a big Saul Rubinek fan, I’ve even shaken the man’s hand, but after 5 eps of the personality free cast and the cut rate “Friday the 13th the Series” antics of W13, I’ve taken back that hour of my life.

    Watch Psych and/or Leverage, Eureka if you’re desperate for whimsy.

  44. 44.

    eric

    August 24, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    @JK: I would like to make a serious point: today is a great example as to why people say things like (or some variant) “a month is a life time in politics.”

    All joking aside, you know Michael Jackson is gonna dominate the news when they aren’t talking about the new special prosecutor to investigate torture. Those two things will impact the health care debate by taking some of the oxygen away from the horse race talk-a-thon that we get instead of real debate.

    Two days ago, you could not have planned for either of those events and yet, here we are.

    I think the less talking there is about Obama’s impending failure and the less talk there is about the inaccurarately referenced “nuculer” option, the better for Obama and his Mr. Tibbs.

    eric

  45. 45.

    smiley

    August 24, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    @Alan: I watched the first two shows that are currently on hulu (episodes 3 and 4, I believe) and now have the pilot on hold as I type this. I think I can say this. I really don’t like programs like that that take place in current times. For me, it’s all about the future.

  46. 46.

    Rey

    August 24, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Larry King will live forever. When he dies they will encase his head in a clear box, along with that stupid microphone- that is not plugged up, and have a 24/7 memorial on CNN. You think Tim Russert was over done at MSNBC, just wait……

  47. 47.

    JackieBinAZ

    August 24, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    I started school today! And I’m doing it on a Pell Grant so for all of our winger regulars – thanks! Not only have your tax dollars helped reinforce my belief that i can depend on the government. They’re going to empower a liberal pursuing a degree in paralegal studies and environmental law so I can do my part to block corporations from raping our public lands.

    This is something I’ve postponed for years, having gone straight into the Army as a journalist out of high school then continuing as one after I got out. My decision to leave the field came when my company decided as a cost-saving measure to do community journalism from 60 miles away rather than maintain a presence within the community they were covering.

  48. 48.

    shelley matheis

    August 24, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    GOP Senators: US Faces Terrorist Attack if Holder Probes Bush’s Torture Program

    Shall we ask Tom Ridge about this?

  49. 49.

    Ty Lookwell

    August 24, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Anne Laurie –

    hey, where did you buy your “Black Pear” Tomato seeds? (I’m assuming you ordered the seeds online in the US?)

  50. 50.

    eric

    August 24, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    @JackieBinAZ: sorry to hear about the downsizing and good luck with continuing your liberal indoctrination. Hopefully the planet is still be here when you get done.

    eric

  51. 51.

    Paddy

    August 24, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    I’m witholding judgement on W13. It has some interesting possibilities, but up until now has been pretty cartoonish. Looking forward to the episode where they reveal that Leena is the love child of Artie and Mrs Fredrick.

    I grew up in a household where tomatoes were part of all good snacks- sliced tomatoes and cheddar, whole tomatoes sprinkled with salt and eaten like an apple and broiled tomatoes with meals all the damn time. Can’t beat them.

  52. 52.

    JK

    August 24, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    @eric:
    I hope less negative coverage of Obama is a good thing. At this point, I don’t know.

    @eric:
    For John McCain’s outrageous and unforgivable decision to choose Sarah Palin as his running mate, I hope he burns in Hell for Eternity

    @Corner Stone:
    Speaking of walking, Walkin by Miles Davis
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTfBpKzu6XA&feature=related

    Abbreviated NY Times Non-Fiction Best Seller List
    #1 CULTURE OF CORRUPTION by Michelle Malkin
    #3 LIBERTY AND TYRANNY by Mark R. Levin
    #5 CATASTROPHE, by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
    #7 A BOLD FRESH PIECE OF HUMANITY by Bill O’Reilly
    WTF is wrong with this damn fucking country that millions of knuckle dragging neanderthals are lining the pockets of these assholes by buying these cover to cover bullshit books? Besides having Sarah Palin as president, what is more despicable than Michelle Malkin being number 1 on the NY Times Best Seller list?

  53. 53.

    Ty Lookwell

    August 24, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    aha, found them here:

    Black Pear Tomato seeds from Garry Ibsen’s TomatoFest

  54. 54.

    Tattoosydney

    August 24, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    It’s spring in Australia. Today is 20 degrees (68 degrees F) and it’s forecast to stay above that for at least the rest of the week…

    Mind you, we’re also having gale force winds and bushfires, but spring is here!

  55. 55.

    smiley

    August 24, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    @Seth 4:10: Despite the support it gets here, I find Leverage to be a pretty stupid show.

    P.S. The dark-haired woman (Sophie?) is pregnant. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. They must have thought they could hid it as they filmed this season. It will be interestng to watch how they cover it up.

  56. 56.

    Corner Stone

    August 24, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    @JackieBinAZ: “empower a liberal female african-american pursuing a degree in paralegal homosexualstudies and environmental death panel law

    Fixt.
    (Ok, this is a big test for both strikethrough and italics. Work with me here WP!)

  57. 57.

    Rey

    August 24, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    @eric

    what you said. Now the attention turns way from Michael Jackson really, and on to his Dr. By this Friday, there will be breaking news, with cameras at Dr. FeelGood’s house and the police taking him away in handcuffs. Or maybe we will be treated to another highway chase, with a Black Bronco (this time) and the Dr. threatening to take his life.

    We are well overdue for a celebrity chase distraction.

  58. 58.

    Corner Stone

    August 24, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    @Corner Stone: Damn you WP! Damn you to hell!!

  59. 59.

    Mark S.

    August 24, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    @eric:

    Nancy Grace just sacrificed a small farm animal as a burnt offering to the FSM for her good fortune.

    When did Headline News become the worst channel in the universe? I remember when it just did news updates every half hour. I didn’t have cable for a couple of years, and when I have had it I guess I never watched the channel, but one of the tv’s at the gym I go to is always on that channel and I seriously would probably rather watch Fox News. It’s got Nancy and someone exactly like Nancy except with brown hair endlessly speculating on cases and 98% of the time proclaiming the defendant guilty even though they haven’t seen any of the evidence.

  60. 60.

    Corner Stone

    August 24, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    @smiley: I won’t go so far as to say “stupid” but I will definitely go with “max cheese”.
    And I’m a long time Timmy Hutton fan.

  61. 61.

    gnomedad

    August 24, 2009 at 8:22 pm

    @JK:
    Holy crap, that didn’t take long.

  62. 62.

    Corner Stone

    August 24, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Now I am craving an old school BLT. Problem is that I had previously been craving spring rolls and big honkin serving of pad thai from my local Pho shop.
    These two cravings can not be easily reconciled. This will not end well.

  63. 63.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 24, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    @eric:

    All joking aside, you know Michael Jackson is gonna dominate the news when they aren’t talking about the new special prosecutor to investigate torture. Those two things will impact the health care debate by taking some of the oxygen away from the horse race talk-a-thon that we get instead of real debate.

    You know, I was just thinking something along similar lines about the fact that some anonymous w.h. sources leaked the info about the torture investigations today, and how that was sure to muddy the waters and divert attention from health care. I don’t know if that was intentional for Obama or against Holder.

    Either way, throw MJ into the mix and whooo-daddy.

    Maybe we’ll sneak health care reform through while nobody’s looking.

    And this is another reason I’m glad my cable was unplugged.

  64. 64.

    trizzlor

    August 24, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Just spotted the torture prosecution talking points at the WSJ (that didn’t take long) – all the usual stuff about how the CIA is going to be oh so sad (“demoralized”) if people are prosecuted and that maybe more people will be held responsible than we thought first. But these two nonchalant quotes made my hair stand on end:

    The new bits include the fact that interrogators threatened terrorists with a gun shot in a nearby room, with a power drill and cigarette smoke, and against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s family. We suspect millions of Americans will be shocked to learn that these unshocking details are all that the uproar over “torture” is about.

    This threat of potential imminent death may have violated some statute, though it was used against men who were thought to have information that could save innocent American lives.

    I’m not frequently brought to hysterics, but what the hell kind of country are we living in where this is a reasonable opinion by a major newspaper?

  65. 65.

    Betsy

    August 24, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    I can’t say for sure that it was better, but I made portobello mushrooms, marinated in balsamic vinegar, garlic, and onions, and served with caramelized onions and lettuce on fresh bread for dinner, along with a nice Sangiovese. That was pretty great.

  66. 66.

    JK

    August 24, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    @Mark S.:

    CNN Headline News is mostly garbage, especially in primetime, but for God’s sake don’t watch Fox News Channel. It’s the worst channel on cable and Fox News is the most dishonest news organization in America.

  67. 67.

    Steeplejack

    August 24, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Dude, at one point today I thought you were spoofing yourself.

  68. 68.

    anonevent

    August 24, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    I like WH13. I find it interest how much the show is really focused on the characters, though that sometime makes the gadgets almost an afterthought. But it does keep the silly gimmicks under control.

  69. 69.

    anonevent

    August 24, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    interesting, not interest.

  70. 70.

    Seth 4:10

    August 24, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    @smiley:

    Now I have nothing against the concept of pregnancy, and this is going to sound really bad, but her getting in that state is really selfish. There is an entire production staff that hinges on a handful of actors keeping themselves available to work. If the cast was smaller, or if it was Parker, this show would be doomed, and dozens of people would be out of work.

    Big Ben ruined an entire Steelers season with his motorcycle accident.

    Yancy Butler wrecked Witchblade with her behavior.

  71. 71.

    chuck

    August 24, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Malkin named her book “Culture of Corruption”?

    Really? Isn’t that kind of like the schoolyard retort “nuh-UH, YOU are!”

    Oh wait, forgot who I was talking about.

    That’s okay, wingnuts can write their books, we’ll be over here writing laws. With numbers in them.

  72. 72.

    bedtimeforbonzo

    August 24, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Anybody else put mayo on their tomatoes? I do the balsamic vinegar and oil, too, but sometimes mayo is just as good.

    I drink more iced tea than anyone I have ever known. Arizona Sweet Tea is the best, although the vast quanities I drink worries my wife.

    My vote for the most beautiful woman on TV: January Jones, who plays Betty Draper on Mad Men.

  73. 73.

    General Winfield Stuck

    August 24, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Dude, at one point today I thought you were spoofing yourself.

    I got counter snarked and lost me mojo.

    War is Hell.

  74. 74.

    JK

    August 24, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    @bedtimeforbonzo:

    My vote for the most beautiful woman on TV: January Jones, who plays Betty Draper on Mad Men.

    She’s beautiful, but what about Andrea Roth on Rescue Me, Jennifer Morrison on House, and Mary Louise Parker on Weeds?

  75. 75.

    arguingwithsignposts

    August 24, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    @trizzlor:

    This threat of potential imminent death may have violated some statute, though it was used against men who were thought to have information that could save innocent American lives.

    That “ticking time bomb” excuse is the ultimate fallback for these subhumanoids.

  76. 76.

    smiley

    August 24, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    @bedtimeforbonzo:

    Anybody else put mayo on their tomatoes?
    Are you from the south? I’ve seen it done but I don’t do it myself (though It sounds good). For me, the best is to cut one in half, scoop out some but not all the seeds, fill/top with a breadcrumb/parmesan mix and bake until, well, done. Good stuff.

  77. 77.

    SiubhanDuinne

    August 24, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Lily would never have let herself relax like that two or three months ago. What a cuteheart she is! (But what happened to that weird quilted Steelers diaper thing she had around her neck the other day?)

    I love fresh tomatoes, but my nearly-as-favourite way to fix them is halved (or really thick slices) with either grated parmesan or romano or some kind of hard cheese, or else bread crumbs (seasoned if you like, or just S&P) with a little oil or butter. Under the broiler until nicely brown. I just remembered I often grate some fresh nutmeg on them.

    One of those, and a few avocado slices, and a nice gless wine, and I am a happy person.

  78. 78.

    Travis

    August 24, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    @JK: I hadn’t been over to that site in a while. Among other things, they’re obsessed with hating Michelle Obama. It was both remarkable and stupid.

  79. 79.

    freelancer

    August 24, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    @JK:

    Beth Riesgraf (Parker on Leverage)

    Evangeline Lily

    Maggie Lawson (Detective O’Hara on Psych)

    Anna Paquin

  80. 80.

    kid bitzer

    August 24, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    damn, that is one lovable dog. great pic.

  81. 81.

    freelancer

    August 24, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    @Rey:

    NASA has a Larry King Interview Simulator to steel themselves against the gut-churningly stupid inanity:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/nasa_simulator_prepares

  82. 82.

    Anne Laurie

    August 24, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    @Ty Lookwell:

    hey, where did you buy your “Black Pear” Tomato seeds?

    I got the Black Prince seeds from Gourmet Seed when I couldn’t find plants. I got an excellent germination rate even though the extent of my care was dumping the packet out in a planter partially shaded by the established plants, so that’s a pretty good stress-test referral, I’d say.

    My Black Pear plants came from Tasteful Garden. Wasn’t sure how well Alabama-grown plants would do here in New England, but the several varieties I ordered have done pretty well, and I’m planning to go back there next spring for more Black Pears!

    P.S. Thanks, I’ve added Gary Ibsen to my gardening-favorites list.

  83. 83.

    Anne Laurie

    August 24, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    @JackieBinAZ: Congratulations! I’m sure you’ll be sharing some fascinating stories with us over the coming months & years…

    WTF is wrong with this damn fucking country that millions of knuckle dragging neanderthals are lining the pockets of these assholes by buying these cover to cover bullshit books?

    Keep in mind that the Wingnut Welfare Wurlitzer bulk-buys the vast majority of these books — they’ve made a science of timing their purchases from the NYT-reporting bookstores in order to boost their favored authors. The resulting pallets of warehoused book-shaped objects will appear as “Join our club, get Malkin’s latest FREE!” ads at the top of BJ in a few months, as soon as they’ve sold down the oversupply of Ann Coulter BSOs.

    There are, of course, voluntary buyers as well, but most of them will no more read their new acquisitions than the people named on the cover did. “Best selling” conservative books seem to be bought for the same reason that the pious Catholic ladies of my working-class childhood bought plaster statues of the Virgin, 3-D Sacred Heart pictures, and theme-of-the-month rosary beads — as a form of religious icon meant to reinforce the group membership of the buyer.

  84. 84.

    OriGuy

    August 24, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    The Illinois GOP were having a meeting, but they didn’t have a flag to pledge to, so they pledged allegiance to a guy’s shirt.

  85. 85.

    Anne Laurie

    August 24, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    @Corner Stone: You can do italics with the i-inside-angle-brackets, but you have to spell out “strike” and “blockquote” if you want them to work correctly in the current incarnation. (As I discovered through trial and much error.)

  86. 86.

    smiley

    August 24, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    @freelancer: Those are all beautiful women. Unfortunately for me I spent my youth chasing this:

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=blonde+hippie+&aq=&aqi=&aq=&aqi=&aq=&aqi=&aq=f&aqi=g1&fp=c9fe100d9e542c1e

    until I realized that l prefer dark-haired women of the wise Latina persuasion.

  87. 87.

    Anne Laurie

    August 24, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Now I am craving an old school BLT. Problem is that I had previously been craving spring rolls and big honkin serving of pad thai from my local Pho shop.
    These two cravings can not be easily reconciled. This will not end well.

    Well, I’ve actually eaten corned-beef-and-cabbage spring rolls (ah, New England) and they’re tastier than you’d think. Maybe tomato slices and bacon wrapped in lettuce leaves and lightly steamed? With either garlic mayo or a balsamic-and-olive oil dipping sauce on the side?

  88. 88.

    JK

    August 24, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    @Travis:

    Once upon time, Larry Johnson was sane. Sadly, he’s devolved into a deranged, warped, frustrated individual.

    @freelancer: The only actress from your list whom I have actually seen is Anna Paquin. I find her attractive but not beautiful.

    @Anne Laurie:

    I love the phrase “Wingnut Welfare Wurlitzer”. It’s priceless. I hope you’re right and that the NYT bestseller list doesn’t tell the whole story. I do think it’s tragic that malevolent fiends like Michelle Malkin and Mark Levin are rolling in money. In a perfect world, these cretins would be laughed out of the media and laughed out of our national consciousness.

  89. 89.

    Corner Stone

    August 24, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I have tried everything yo. There is just no stopping the vicious rapine of my tender nether spots by this damn blog.

  90. 90.

    Anne Laurie

    August 24, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    @trizzlor:

    I’m not frequently brought to hysterics, but what the hell kind of country are we living in where this is a reasonable opinion by a major newspaper?

    If it makes you feel any better, tonight Katie Couric interviewed an expert (too lazy to look up his name) who told her that, yes, “threats of death or severe harm” were flatly forbidden by the Geneva Convention, and he “knew of no other civilized country” that would admit to taking such actions even against suspected terrorists. So, the Conventional Wisdom may say that such threats aren’t really so bad, or that other countries just won’t admit what they’ve been up to, but it’s not a universal we-never-an-besides-you-can’t-prove-it defense.

  91. 91.

    Corner Stone

    August 24, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I gave in. Spring rolls, chicken fried rice and a broiled beef bun from the Pho.
    Tomorrow the BLT is frickin on!

  92. 92.

    John Cole

    August 24, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    @Corner Stone: Patience. My blogmistress had other websites ahead of us and will get to us shortly. I swear.

  93. 93.

    Anne Laurie

    August 24, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    @bedtimeforbonzo:

    Anybody else put mayo on their tomatoes? I do the balsamic vinegar and oil, too, but sometimes mayo is just as good.

    I was never a big mayonnaise enthusiast till I ran into the garlic mayo at Ruby Tuesday’s, which is insanely good on fries. Now, yeah, mix the white stuff with a scoop of minced garlic, or squeeze a couple roasted cloves in, and that’s TASTY! on the tomatoes, especially if I’m using rye bread or a “hearty” sourdough to sop up the juices.

  94. 94.

    josefina

    August 24, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Those are great sources, Anne Laurie–thanks muchly!

    In case you haven’t found them: Baker’s Creek Seeds is a fantastic resource. Almost twenty pages of tomato varieties! Sorted by color! Plus tons of unusual and rare veggies from all over the world.

    I’m sadly bereft of ‘maters this year. Nothing from my community garden patch because of the long wet spring and the truncated summer. Very little from my CSA — but those few are treasured. Usually by this time of year I have so many tomatoes I have to resort to salsa and sauces and caponata just to keep up. This year, each lovely fruit has been consumed in only one way, the second-best way I know:

    Make a vinaigrette with good olive oil and mellow vinegar and crushed garlic and fresh basil leaves, sliced into ribbons like you’d used scissors. (In fact, I have used scissors.) Slice & quarter tomatoes and throw in a bowl. Add an equivalent amount of similar-sized chunks of fresh mozzarella. (Ideally, it’s always buffalo mozzarella. Ideally, it’s always an August late-afternoon just at that sweet break of heat.) Dump in the dressing, stir, and then let sit on the counter as long as you can stand it. While you’re waiting, slice up some crusty bread to sop up the juice. Eat out on the deck, with the bowl in your lap and something cool and crispy (a good sancerre-ish white or an IPA) in a glass, while you scritch the dog’s belly with one foot. Or eat right in front of the window unit, cranked up with the vents set so they blow your hair off your face. The exact venue is less important than: bowl in lap, glass of cool and crispy, dog-belly scritching via the feets.

    The first-best way to eat tomatoes is, always, standing barefoot in the hot tilled dirt next to the plant with a salt-shaker in your hand.

  95. 95.

    freelancer

    August 24, 2009 at 10:52 pm

    @JK:

    I love the phrase “Wingnut Welfare Wurlitzer”. It’s priceless.

    Can we add “puke funnel” to that, and make it twice as priceless?

  96. 96.

    in canaduh

    August 24, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Ice sandwiches with tomato tea

  97. 97.

    trizzlor

    August 24, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    @Anne Laurie: Yeah, sometimes my hobby of watching/reading only conservative media warps my world-view a bit; but I’m still shocked that the WSJ so glibly joked that the threat of death might go against some statue somewhere while complete ignoring the very concise US legal definition of torture which states just that.

    Maybe I’m naive, but an outright admission that the DOJ should simply ignore mass law-breaking that they sympathize with is still leaving me dumbstruck.

  98. 98.

    Ash Can

    August 24, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    Ooh, who’saLilyboo? :::huggies’n’snorgles:::

    ::ahem::

    Yeah, what’re you lookin’ at, you assholes?

    Anyhoo, @JK: Shorter GOP senators: “Oh shit, they’re on to us! Head for the hills!”

    And I guess they’re right — there seems to be another small imbroglio the grown-ups are looking into while Atty. Genl. Holder is carrying out his latest marching orders. Whoops.

    @Anne Laurie: “Well, I’ve actually eaten corned-beef-and-cabbage spring rolls”

    So have I, at a local Irish joint. They’re not half bad, but I prefer the fresh veggie ingredients of the original version.

    And speaking of veggies, the beauty of fresh tomatoes is that, even though they have a wonderful, distinctive flavor, they lend themselves exceptionally well to other flavors and textures. They can be combined with other foods and condiments in so many wonderful ways.

    (Sheesh, good thing I’ve already eaten supper.)

  99. 99.

    General Winfield Stuck

    August 24, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    Little Libby watching teevee.

  100. 100.

    John T

    August 25, 2009 at 12:50 am

    At first, I thought this article in the American Spectator was satire, about Obama’s plan to “convert Sept. 11 into a day of leftist celebration and statist idolatry.”

    Obama’s Plan to Desecrate 9/11

    The plan is to turn a “day of fear” that helps Republicans into a day of activism called the National Day of Service that helps the left. In other words, nihilistic liberals are planning to drain 9/11 of all meaning.

    But the website’s commentariat seems to think it’s for real.

  101. 101.

    bago

    August 25, 2009 at 1:29 am

    Cable tv is for rubes. Hulu is the new tv. If I can’t hili it, I netflix it. If the owners are too anal I will bittorrent it. I only watch msnbc as podcasts while working out.

    Soon the only people not watching tv on demand will be teh olds yammering at BillO and the damned kids on their lawn.

  102. 102.

    Of Bugs and Books

    August 25, 2009 at 1:36 am

    @Stooleo:
    Good on you! More detailed info on solarization here:
    http://solar.uckac.edu/new_page1.htm
    Miscellany – Enough solarization would cover many bases, but if disease id. becomes necessary (e.g., actually abiotic disease), then id. as soon as possible. Original disease symptoms can later be confused with decomposer microbes feeding on dead material, multiple diseases, etc.
    For a homeowner in a hurry / a cool climate / with heavy soil, etc., and a small plot, and who has a water heater that needs flushing, you could use that water when soaking the soil to speed things up a bit. A little bit.

  103. 103.

    Seanly

    August 25, 2009 at 1:37 am

    I’m waiting for WH13 to step it up a little, but a new show needs time for the better themes to come out. I do like it better than Eureka – never got into that. Find myself waiting for Sanctuary as I thought it was just hitting it’s stride when the season ended.

    Actually, my wife & I have been making an in-home date of watching Star Trek TNG on Mondays. A little kitschy, but I’m appreciating Picard as a good leader a bit more.

  104. 104.

    Zuzu's Petals

    August 25, 2009 at 5:04 am

    Is there anything better than tomato sandwiches and iced tea for dinner?

    Fried egg and fresh garden tomato sandwich for breakfast. Using real bread, of course.

    I only get this when I visit my friends for the weekend. They have a quality lifestyle.

  105. 105.

    Zuzu's Petals

    August 25, 2009 at 5:35 am

    @John T:

    I guess they don’t realize the concept of a national day of service on that day was started right after 9/11 by 9/11 families, first responders, and recovery workers. They were among the biggest advocates of the legislation.

  106. 106.

    bedtimeforbonzo

    August 25, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    smiley: I am from Newark, Delaware, which we consider to be Northeast — only a half hour from Philadelphia.

    Am I the only person who loves tomatoes so long as they are not baked in the oven? Also, I hate tomato soup. Seems strange.

    Anne: That garlic mayo sounds very good.

    freelancer: I forgot about Evangeline Lily. But I can’t keep my eyes off January Jones when I watch Mad Men — she is a Grace Kelly type.

    When I got home from work last night, my 10-year-old son was watching the Disney remake of “Race to Witch Mountain,” which he really liked. I thought it was terrible, but at least Carla Gugina was on the screen — I’ve always thought she is an under-the-radar hottie.

  107. 107.

    jack neoff

    August 26, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    I certainly hope there was bacon involved

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