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You are here: Home / Politics / Republican Stupidity / Republicans: Staunch Defenders of Medicare

Republicans: Staunch Defenders of Medicare

by John Cole|  September 1, 20091:33 pm| 50 Comments

This post is in: Republican Stupidity, Clown Shoes, Going Galt

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Excellent:

Man, I bet if I were a libertarian who spent the last couple of months defending teabaggers and pimping every Republican lie about fiscal responsibility, I’d feel pretty damned stupid right now. I wish there was some way I could put this on infinite loop in Reason HQ so they would have something to watch in between Fox News appearances and watching PJTV.

But don’t you dare call them Republicans.

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  1. 1.

    Keith

    September 1, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    What’s with that awesome background music?

  2. 2.

    Jim

    September 1, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    Every person over the age of 65 ate breadcrumbs and rat tail during the Depression and then immediately enlisted after Pearl Harbor. Of course they’ve earned unlimited health care, no matter how badly their quality of life sucks now.

  3. 3.

    Trollhattan

    September 1, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Who’d have guessed Michael Steele would be the second coming of Claude Pepper?

    Keep you gummint hands off my Medicare!

  4. 4.

    cleek

    September 1, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    must be fun to be a Republican: your principles are issue-specific and subject to change on a moment’s notice, if the RNC deems it necessary.

  5. 5.

    joes527

    September 1, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    So…. no role whatsoever for government in end of life care.

    He seems to be advocating that anyone with a life threatening condition should automatically lose their Medicare coverage.

  6. 6.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    September 1, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    Wow. What planet is the GOP operating from these days? But this should help a little — Kos retweeted a gem this morning.

    Cheney/Palin 2012: “I can see the end of the world from my house.”

  7. 7.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    I bet if I were a libertarian who spent the last couple of months defending teabaggers and pimping every Republican lie about fiscal responsibility, I’d feel pretty damned stupid right now.

    You’re assuming McMe-again feels shame or remorese. To do so, one must be able to acknowledge that one was wrong.

  8. 8.

    flounder

    September 1, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    This is going to turn out badly. Badly hilarious.

  9. 9.

    AW

    September 1, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Am I missing something?

    It’s stupid, yes, but it’s not amazingly stupid.

    Comes off as the Diet Coke of stupid, to be honest. Was expecting Nuka Cola Quantum stupid when I saw the title and description.

  10. 10.

    kay

    September 1, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    They’re freaking terrified the wasteful boondoggle know as “Medicare Advantage, 2003” is going to get cut, because it’s profitable, although it’s a complete taxpayer rip-off.

    Steele should tell people how much extra his sacred cow subsidy to private insurers is costing every single taxpayer. Lots.

  11. 11.

    Keith

    September 1, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    I give Steele another week before he’s insisting that health care reform includes incentives for reverse mortgages and chairs that lift you to a standing position.

  12. 12.

    Bill Rutherford, Princeton Admissions

    September 1, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    I wonder what percentage of Red Eye’s viewership consists of Reasonoids hoping for a Kerry Howley nipple slip.

  13. 13.

    Demo Woman

    September 1, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    John, I noticed that you have a category called clown shoes and Doug has a category called assholes, shouldn’t this be filed under assholes with clown shoes?

    @The Grand Panjandrum: Sadly that’s true.

  14. 14.

    Sloth

    September 1, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    You know you are winning an argument when your opponent is taking your side.

  15. 15.

    Demo Woman

    September 1, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    uh oh… I just used the banned s*ho*es word… Sorry mods

  16. 16.

    CapMidnight

    September 1, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    We are at war with Euthanasia. We have always been at war with Euthanasia.

  17. 17.

    MobiusKlein

    September 1, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Ugh, how about a children’s bill of rights, guaranteeing them the same coverage as anybody on medicare?

    Surely if we have a program to pay for drug costs for folks over 65, no kid who needs his asthma medicine to live should be treated any different?

    Oh wait, children can’t vote. Never mind.

  18. 18.

    Aaron

    September 1, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    @AW:

    AW, a Fallout fan, I am guessing? :-)

    And being a Republican means never having to say on Wednesday what you fought to the death for on Monday

  19. 19.

    AW

    September 1, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    @Aaron:

    I like think of the Fallout as a simulation of the world after a century of continuous Republican rule.

    I know I’LL be ready.

  20. 20.

    Graeme

    September 1, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Too right, John. I’m getting to the point where I’m excited to vote against the Republicans again.

    And I’m one of those libertarian independents they lost during the Bush Administration.

    The stupidity and incoherence of their message is nothing short of a galling insult to our collective intelligence.

  21. 21.

    Michael

    September 1, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Libertarians are incapable of feeling stupid. You ever read the shit they dribble out over at Reason?

  22. 22.

    Citizen_X

    September 1, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    @The Grand Panjandrum:

    Cheney/Palin 2012: “I can see the end of the world from my house.”

    I think I’d go with “I can see Cthulhu from my house,” but that works, too.

  23. 23.

    arguingwithsignposts

    September 1, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    @CapMidnight:

    Re: The War on Euthanasia, I can’t let that pass without linking to a This American Life episode with David Sedaris – The Youth in Asia.

    WARNING: The story is about a pet dying, but the part about the youth in asia is funny.

    Act One. The Youth in Asia.

    When a pet dies, to what degree can it be replaced by another? And to what degree can pets replace people in our lives? David Sedaris tells this story of cats and dogs and other animals. (16 minutes)

  24. 24.

    brent

    September 1, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    One of the things that Steele does all the time which drives me crazy is his use of the phrase “how come” instead of “why.” Not that I would like the man if he didn’t use that phrase less but somehow it suggests a basic immaturity and simplemindedness to me that makes me want to strike him. How come he can’t talk like an adult?

  25. 25.

    Brachiator

    September 1, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    So when do the Democrats get on the media to pull out all those previous GOP appearances on the pundit shows in which they either oppose Medicare or call for a reduction in these programs?

  26. 26.

    ed

    September 1, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    But don’t you dare call them Republicans.

    Can I call them Pseudo-Libertarian De Facto Republicans? (‘Case I do.)

  27. 27.

    Mike

    September 1, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Will there be a hip hop version for the young people?

  28. 28.

    slag

    September 1, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    You’re assuming McMe-again feels shame or remorese. To do so, one must be able to acknowledge that one was wrong.

    Agreed. Complete lack of self-awareness is a neoconservative/libertarian hallmark.

  29. 29.

    Bill White

    September 1, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    In October 2008 John McCain favored Medicare cuts to fund his health care proposals.

    John McCain would pay for his health plan with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, a top aide said, in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 trillion over 10 years to the government programs.

    The Republican presidential nominee has said little about the proposed cuts, but they are needed to keep his health-care plan “budget neutral,” as he has promised. The McCain campaign hasn’t given a specific figure for the cuts, but didn’t dispute the analysts’ estimate.

    In the months since Sen. McCain introduced his health plan, statements made by his campaign have implied that the new tax credits he is proposing to help Americans buy health insurance would be paid for with other tax increases.

    But Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Sen. McCain’s senior policy adviser, said Sunday that the campaign has always planned to fund the tax credits, in part, with savings from Medicare and Medicaid. Those government health-care programs serve seniors, poor families and the disabled. Medicare spending for the fiscal year ended Sept. 30 is estimated at $457.5 billion.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112281170&ft=1&f=3

  30. 30.

    srv

    September 1, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    @The Grand Panjandrum: Did someone ever print the “Palin 2012-2013 1/2” bumper sitcker?

  31. 31.

    Barry

    September 1, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    “Man, I bet if I were a libertarian who spent the last couple of months defending teabaggers and pimping every Republican lie about fiscal responsibility, I’d feel pretty damned stupid right now. I wish there was some way I could put this on infinite loop in Reason HQ so they would have something to watch in between Fox News appearances and watching PJTV.

    But don’t you dare call them Republicans.”

    I’m sure that actual Libertarians would feel bad. The sort of ‘libertarians’ who have propaganda jobs have had to learn to suppress such feelings long ago.

  32. 32.

    chrismealy

    September 1, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    Shorter Republicans: Under 65? Go fuck yourself.

  33. 33.

    The Cat Who Would Be Tunch

    September 1, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    Did Steele just use “you’re with us or against us” argument with HCR? So now, we’re either with the seniors or with the terrorists?

    Also, why the heck haven’t the Democrats (either from government or from progressive organizations) put together a speaking tour/media appearances of former lobbyists or employees of insurance companies? Not that this idea is entirely original – it actually came to me when reading Kristof’s Op-Ed in the NYT about a former lobbyist-turned-health-care reform advocate.

  34. 34.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    September 1, 2009 at 3:10 pm

    @Brachiator:

    So when do the Democrats get on the media to pull out all those previous GOP appearances on the pundit shows in which they either oppose Medicare or call for a reduction in these programs?

    About a month before the 2010 midterm elections. It’s called paid political advertising. You can even fork over some of your own change to help pay for it, if that’s what you want to see on the TV.

  35. 35.

    Lyle4

    September 1, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    It’s weird how Republicans only support socialism for old people. Well, it’s not really that weird considering old people are their most reliable voting block, but seriously, couldn’t they at least try not to be so obvious?

  36. 36.

    Brachiator

    September 1, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:

    About a month before the 2010 midterm elections. It’s called paid political advertising. You can even fork over some of your own change to help pay for it, if that’s what you want to see on the TV.

    Note that I suggested that the Dems get the media to pull their own stuff from their archives, not that they simply run political ads themselves. Do it on the cheap as much as possible. Play up the YouTube clips, etc.

    That way you don’t have to wait until 2010.

  37. 37.

    JL

    September 1, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    He wants NO role of the government in end of life care? Wha????

    So, the government should have no role in enforcing a living will that requires invasive life saving measures when a doctor or a family member refuses to follow the living will?

    The rest of what he said are enormous straw men.

  38. 38.

    Pangloss

    September 1, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    The only thing that’s missing is a gun.

  39. 39.

    gocart mozart

    September 1, 2009 at 4:41 pm

    How come only old people get to have Nazi style healthcare? Where’s my Nazi Healthcare? I want my Hitler Healthcare and I want it now.

  40. 40.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    September 1, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    What cracks me up: Michael Steele is a total washout, an utter buffoon up a creek without a paddle. Yet what Republican would be better-qualified to hold his position? Palin? Gingrich? Cantor?

  41. 41.

    Notorious P.A.T.

    September 1, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    “I think I’d go with “I can see Cthulhu from my house,” but that works, too.”

    Trouble is, Sarah Palin lives in Alaska, not along the Miskatonic River.

  42. 42.

    Tim in SF

    September 1, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    The graphics are nice, though. They’re learning.

  43. 43.

    gocart mozart

    September 1, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Medicare is evil socialism. Why isn’t every senior out in the streets right now warning people about their imminent potential enslavement by their communist masters?

  44. 44.

    malraux

    September 1, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    @Notorious P.A.T.: R’lyeh is located in the Pacific, though its south Pacific, not the north. In addition, at least one Eskimo tribe is known to worship the Great Old One, so it is possible that Cthulhu worship extends to Wassila.

  45. 45.

    jenniebee

    September 1, 2009 at 6:01 pm

    Meh, that was ok, but I’m waiting for the club re-mix.

    What is it about Republicans that they’re either only talking to each other, or they’re talking to people with an IQ below 80? Or is that a tautology? Nvrmind.

  46. 46.

    Blue Texan

    September 1, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    I’m not a Republican or a conservative, but I do think Obama’s an American-hating socialist and George W. Bush had it about right.

    Sincerely,

    Glenn Reynolds

  47. 47.

    Little Macayla's Friend

    September 1, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    @Bill White:
    Thanks for the excellent transcript link (and to Steve Inskeep – more terriers!).
    And Steele sets himself up for:
    “That would be the government, I believe.”

  48. 48.

    Ken C.

    September 1, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    I am steadfastly with Steele: it should be illegal to ration healthcare based on age.

  49. 49.

    Mr. Wonderful

    September 2, 2009 at 10:55 am

    @ MobiusKlein–

    Because children haven’t earned it. Wake up.

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