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Remember when the MoveOn member compared Bush to Hitler and it shook the very foundations of our society? Now Serious People like Dick Armey are condoning similar comparisons:

One blogger who writes regularly for Freedomworks, Ross Kaminsky of Boulder, Colo., compared Obama’s Tuesday address to U.S. schoolchildren to the tactics of Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot and other murderous dictators. “Totalitarians of all stripes put great emphasis on brainwashing the young, and Obama is no exception,” he wrote on the group’s Web site under the name “rossputin.”

If Ross plays his cards right, he could end up marrying one of the Atlantic’s bloggers.

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  5. 5.

    Davis X. Machina

    Making the obligatory mention that MoveOn.org did not, qua MoveOn.org, liken Mr. Bush to Hitler, but instead held a video contest in which the creator(s) of one of many unsolicited entries likened Mr. Bush to Hitler.

    Not that anybody notices, remembers, or cares.

  6. 6.

    Davis X. Machina

    [Oops, truncated post..bolloxed blockquote? Why, don’t know. Last line follows]

    How often have you seen that done right, except here?

    (Anybody want the use, encouragement or propagation of non-standard HTML added to title 18 of the USC?

  7. 7.

    Ed in NJ

    Remember the good ol’ days when the Senate was voting to condemn Moveon.org for an ad.

    Now we have elected officials openly calling for secession and accusing the president of (insert daily accusation) and nothing happens.

  8. 8.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    @Davis X. Machina:

    Making the obligatory mention that MoveOn.org did not, qua MoveOn.org, liken Mr. Bush to Hitler, but instead held a video contest in which the creator(s) of one of many unsolicited entries likened Mr. Bush to Hitler.

    If one left wing loon anywhere behaves badly, teh entire Left is guilty (see Churchill, Ward). On the other hand if somebody from the right shoots a cop or a museum security guard, or a Unitarian Church full of worshippers, well there are no broader implications. There’s no accounting for lone nuts with guns. And a house full of hard-right eliminationist propaganda. That’s just a coinky-dink.

  10. 10.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    @Davis X. Machina: In the spirit of the teabaggers and FreedomWorks claims I think it should be done by executive orders so they have something else to bitch about.

    I haven’t watched any of the coverage of the 9/12 so-called event, but Annie Laurie’s early post is spot on. Most other days of the year New York City is just another bastion of liberal fascism to this crowd of birthers, baggers, secessionists and tenthers. It’s nice to see that at least they agree the government should be fiscally responsible and not give away the tax payers dollars. Now if they can somehow be made to understand who those dollars are actually going to some real change in DC might happen.

    And some day a magical pony will build a campfire big enough for all of us to stand around, hold hands and sing Kumbayah.

  12. 12.

    Warren Terra

    I am like Mr. Kaminsky in at least one respect: I’m perfectly willing to “[compare] Obama’s Tuesday address to U.S. schoolchildren to the tactics of Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot and other murderous dictators”:

    It. Was. Nothing. Like. Them.

    There, how’s that for a “comparison”.

    The problem with all those historical monsters was decidedly not that all of them gave speeches, whether to schoolchildren or to anyone else; the problem was the heaps of dead bodies and shattered lives they left in their wake. It was the deprivation of due process, of basic rights, of dignity, of freedom, and of course of life. And deprivation of privacy, come to think of it, not that the Republicans understand any aspect of that one, and I don’t just mean “privacy” as an allusion to “Roe V. Wade”.

    The fact that Kaminsky can’t tell the difference between “stay in school, study hard, and wash your hands” and “kill (the Landlords/the Kulaks/the Literate)” is a sure sign that Kaminsky really should have stayed in school and studied hard. I hope at least he’s washing his hands.

  13. 13.

    Brick Oven Bill

    There are slim pickin’s in the Rochester group. Perhaps there is something in the water up there. Perhaps the ladies seek distance from DougJ. Who knows? But nevertheless, here is Toni, with whom I would be proud to teabag.

    Toni is more easily led than Freddie Johnson. Freddie requires cigarettes and ‘scratch’ in order to participate in political events. But Freddie is active in politics nonetheless, having registered to vote seventy two times.

    “Johnson, who works at a cellphone kiosk in downtown Cleveland, said he was a sitting duck for the signature hunters, but was always happy to help them out in exchange for a smoke or a little scratch. He’d collected 10 to 20 cigarettes and anywhere from $10 to $15, he said.”

    Toni would likely listen to Barack’s readings and say to herself, ‘is this all he does is talk?’ I have heard this line from a couple of perceptive kids lately. Obama is no Hitler.

  15. 15.

    Martin

    I want some 9/12 pictures to mock, damnit!

    I’m expecting at least one picture of the ‘non-partisan’ event to show Obama hanging in effigy. I’m encouraged that the early picture of “Bury Obamacare with Kennedy” signs being handed out means that the tone of the day is right on target.

    And not having Stewart and Colbert on the teevee for this is killing me.

  16. 16.

    A Mom Anon

    Are there any overhead pics of the Gathering of Kleagles in DC yet? I’d like to see the huge crowd that’s gathered.

    I ran into one of the morans this morning at the local Target store with his SUV plastered over with all kinds of Beckian nonsense. I wonder why he couldn’t drag his bloated ass to DC with his buddies?

  18. 18.

    tripletee

    I haven’t watched any of the coverage of the 9/12 so-called event

    Me either, but I’m anxiously awaiting the reports of nationwide shortages of foam fingers, wetsuits and dildos.

  21. 21.

    Gus

    And let’s not forget how Dick Durbin was made to apologize for his completely apt comparison of U.S. torture to that of Pol Pot.

  24. 24.

    Demo Woman

    @A Mom Anon: For a while the signs were disappearing down here. Certainly not any longer. I saw one recently that said Pay your own mortgage so my taxes don’t. Ignorance knows no bounds.

  25. 25.

    Demo Woman

    I just watched President Obama’s speech on line. It appeared to me that his Secret Service formed a tighter ring than usual. Did any one else notice this?

  26. 26.

    licensed to kill time

    ok, BoB is just creepy. Can’t you just see him lurking in the back rows at his Beck gatherings, surreptitiously snapping women’s photos on his cell phone and fantasizing about teabagging them? Probably following them in his pickup and fapping away as he imagines the glorious meeting of the teabags until it erupts in heavenly fireworks and then, exhausted, he goes home to his brick oven and listlessly tosses pizza dough, thinking of what might have been.

  29. 29.

    Demo Woman

    How the fuck did Tom Price get my cell phone number to call me for a survey. Do I agree with government run health care, do I agree with a energy tax that will cost all of us $3500 a year. Unfortunately when I said that’s a lie, the robo person said that response will not be listed as a yes or no.

  31. 31.

    licensed to kill time

    @Dave C:

    Hunh. Slimy American Pie, you betcha. (I ought to get cleek’s pie filter, but where would the BoB-rage rush go?)

  32. 32.

    someguy

    Had to turn off CNN. You see the crowds of teabaggers? I didn’t know you could get so much moranity crammed into such a tiny city center like D.C.’s The only surprising or interesting thing about it is that they aren’t wearing their white sheets. Maybe they aren’t as openly evil as I’d thought.

  34. 34.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    @Demo Woman: Nothing like an automated push poll to bring a little sunshine into your life. They’ve dialing my number for weeks now. Fortunately I got a heads up that those calls were coming out of area code 202 so I just don’t answer.

  35. 35.

    Allan

    You know, I manage to go days, even weeks at a time without thinking about Hitler. It’s interesting how “top of mind” Hitler is for so many on the teabagging fringe.

  37. 37.

    Ann B. Nonymous

    Brick is hilarious. I want to rub olive oil all over his body and roll him in cornmeal so he doesn’t stick.

  39. 39.

    Ash

    @smiley: Geez, a sea of stupid white people. How surprising.

    That said, their obsession with ACORN is the most hilarious thing ever. The way they go on, you’d think they were some secret organization getting their grubby fingers on everything. Instead of, you know, just a group that employs a bunch of poor people.

  40. 40.

    Sir Nose'D

    “Totalitarians of all stripes put great emphasis on brainwashing the young, and *religious leaders* are no exception,”

    What’s the name of that logical fallacy again?

  42. 42.

    Brick Oven Bill

    What is creepier is the thought of timekiller stalking in the back of the counter-rally, and gazing at ACORN’s local talent.

    To clarify the record, I have addressed these get togethers from the podium, and did not sulk in back. People clapped, and it was nice. I am sorry that I am unable to attend today’s gathering.

    You can tell a lot about the strength of a political movement by the attractiveness of the females who show up. Using this metric, you can tell that Glenn Beck is on to something.

  47. 47.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    @smiley: Love photo #6 with the guy holding the sign with Ben Franklin quote: “Trade freedom for security and you will have neither.”

    I would like to welcome that gentleman to the fold. Haven’t the DFH’s been saying that for a while?

  49. 49.

    IndyLib

    @Svensker:

    They have the nerve to have a sign that says “trade freedom for security, get neither”! ? !

    These asshats are nothing if not the biggest hypocrites in the history of hyposcrisy.

  50. 50.

    General Winfield Stuck

    , you can tell that Glenn Beck is on to something.

    On something maybe, probably. If he autoerotically asphixiates himself himself on national teevee wearing a G-String wetsuit, then we’ll have a movement. Until then, it won’t last.

  53. 53.

    Demo Woman

    John has been out of town and the lack of posts by BOB had me concerned. For a few hours, I was thinking that John had banned his alter ego.
    Anyway, I am glad to see BOB post.

  57. 57.

    Roger Moore

    @Svensker:

    They have the nerve to have a sign that says “trade freedom for security, get neither”! ? !

    They couldn’t even bother to get the quote right, either. It’s “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

  60. 60.

    Ash Can

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    If he autoerotically asphixiates himself himself on national teevee wearing a G-String wetsuit, then we’ll have a movement.

    If that were to happen, his producers would have a movement that would never wash out of their desk chairs.

  61. 61.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @demkat620:

    Did Beck address the crowd yet? Isn’t this his shindig?

    Beck is just the front man. This is a gathering of Limbaugh ditto heads appearing incarnate from the dark parts of American sewers.

  62. 62.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @demkat620:

    Did Beck address the crowd yet? Isn’t this his shindig?

    I’m sure they’re waiting for it. After all if they can get Glenn Beck to come and say something intelligent, they’ll be very lucky indeed.

  63. 63.

    Leelee for Obama

    @Demo Woman: Yes, and the one guy who’s always with him looked like he wished Obama would phone it in, didn’t he? They must be on tenterhooks 24/7 these days.

  64. 64.

    smiley

    Here;s a good one – just turned from the game to check out Fox and they showed a person with a sign that had a drawing of two dogs mating. Underneath it said, “Don’t Barney Frank me!”

  78. 78.

    Davis X. Machina

    Geez, I hate not having edit.

    Don’t think of it as a typo. Think of it as a fortuitous truth.

    Soul > finger > screen. Like oracle bones, only you need to find an outlet first.

  87. 87.

    Svensker

    @shoutingattherain:

    WTF are “Kill Bills”?

    Assume they are the Congressional bills that will “kill” grandma.

    I really have to get off the internet for a while. My blood pressure must be about 180/120.

  90. 90.

    CalD

    “Remember when the MoveOn member compared Bush to Hitler and it shook the very foundations of our society? Now Serious People like Dick Armey are condoning similar comparisons[.]”

    By what standard do you judge Dick Armey to be a serious person?

  91. 91.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @Svensker: Yeah I thought that also, bills that will kill grandma, though of course I’m guessing like the rest of us.

    It’s like discovering a new early civilization, maybe someone will find a Rosseta Stone in the form of notes from some social worker’s office that has both English and stupid noted in parallel.

  94. 94.

    Polish the Guillotines

    Glenn Greenwald nails it. Anyone who thinks the current wingut outbreak is new must’ve been drinking heavily during the 1990s.

    What makes it seem worse now is that in the 1990s, there were still enough sane Republicans in the party to dilute the tea, but now they’ve evaporated leaving nothing behind but the tea bags.

  97. 97.

    A Mom Anon

    Malkin’s now claiming crowd estimates are 2 million with a screen cap from one of the traffic cams(she wasn’t there though,she was there in spirit she wrote) I’ve been looking at that same cam off and on since this morning and there was never a moment where the streets were that packed. Someone’s full of shit methinks.

  103. 103.

    licensed to kill time

    @Polish the Guillotines:

    While we are still waiting for number confirmations, we’ve found that any MSM crowd estimate is about 1/3 of the real size. So, while we continue to hear reports from NBC, CNN, Fox, etc, keep in mind that you need to multiply their crowd estimates by 3 to get the real number.

    via liberty news

    They are saying it in advance….

  104. 104.

    shoutingattherain

    @freelancer:

    Thanks for breaking that down for me. Really, I’m just a dumb DFH and it’s the only way I’ll learn.

    This really isn’t much of a march. Where is the paper mache? What, no “FREE MUMIA” signage? All these women appear to all be wearing bras! There are NO wandering bands of folksingers and not a tambourine in sight. Kinda disappointing.

    They’ve even stolen some of our
    amusing quips.

  106. 106.

    Jen R

    @shoutingattherain: OMG, I thought that was a pelvis on that “Roll Tide!” bumper sticker for a second. I really can’t wait until my back-ordered glasses come in.

    Love the person in the background with the wordy sign about “I’m tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, you’re unpatriotic.” Just who the fuck is saying that people who disagree with Obama are unpatriotic, anyway? That’s your side’s game. And where were you for the last 8 years?

  107. 107.

    freelancer

    @shoutingattherain:

    Can you read the text on the sign to the right of that?

    I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we’re Americans and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration…

    My head just broke, and I think my nose is bleeding.

  108. 108.

    Polish the Guillotines

    @licensed to kill time:

    While we are still waiting for number confirmations, we’ve found that any MSM crowd estimate is about 1/3 of the real size.

    Until it’s a crowd of DFHs, at which point the wingnut math inverts.

    Stoopid wingnuts are stoopid.

  112. 112.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @freelancer: It means a pimp.

    Among other things, but that’s clearly the sense in which they mean it.

    In other words, more undifferentiated pure open racism, which is the black hole ticking and purring at the center of this whole “movement” to anyone paying attention even slightly.

  114. 114.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @kommrade reproductive vigor:

    Somebody, probably another wingnut blogger claimed ABC was saying 2 million to attend, and also DC police at 1.2 mill.

    I can find no link verifying that ABC or DC police said any such thing. But that’s how it got started. Not the first time the RW echo chamber has generated a myth and spread it like Herpes./

  115. 115.

    smiley

    @freelancer:

    Long-Legged Mack Daddy?

    1. Long-Legged = criticism of his height? WTF. He’s not that tall.

    2. Mack Daddy = black? What’s the origin of “mack daddy?” I actually don’t know.

  116. 116.

    Roger Moore

    @licensed to kill time:

    Wow, that’s crazy. My experience is that the estimates of crowd size are always a gross exaggeration, never an undercount. I would be more inclined to believe that you should divide the official figure by 3 to get the real number than multiply it. Oh well, multiply, divide, it’s all good.

  118. 118.

    Anne Laurie

    @Warren Terra:

    The fact that Kaminsky can’t tell the difference between “stay in school, study hard, and wash your hands” and “kill (the Landlords/the Kulaks/the Literate)” is a sure sign that Kaminsky really should have stayed in school and studied hard. I hope at least he’s washing his hands.

    Especially the hand he’s got shoved down his pants.

    Are all men named “Ross” douchebags, or does the Wingnut Welfare Wurlitzer present us with an unrepresentative sample?

  119. 119.

    Svensker

    @freelancer:

    take a breather, check this track out, it’s rapturous.

    Are you spying on me? Psychic? I just this morning posted this on my fb page (you have to double click on the YouTube page — it won’t let you embed)
    /www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXgw316uSiA

    Had never heard Rodrigo y Gabriela until today. Fantastic.

  125. 125.

    Donald G

    @Onihanzo:

    LaRouchePAC sign in that first photo.

    Oh, no, the 9/12-ers aren’t crazy cranks, nosirree! They’re normal, everyday, Real Americans.

  126. 126.

    smiley

    @Anne Laurie: I once lost a long-time friend when I said something like that when I didn’t realize his fiance was named “Ross.” I’ll never say anything like that about someone else’s name again.

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