It is kind of amusing that the sanest of the Republican options is a serial liar and, dare I say, flip-flopper.
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It is kind of amusing that the sanest of the Republican options is a serial liar and, dare I say, flip-flopper.
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SGEW
“I’m not in favor of his religion by any means . . . but he wrote a book called ‘Battlefield Earth’ that was a very fun science-fiction book.” – Mitt “Double Guantanamo” Romney, when asked about his favorite novel. (cf.)
It’s actually a little scarier when I suspect he’s not lying.
JenJen
As amusing as it would be, I still don’t think Mittens will get close to the nomination. 2012 will be Year of the Crazy.
If he hangs in there, though, I think 2016 will be Year of the Flip-Flopping Serial Liar and Dog Torturer. Poor Seamus. :-(
Derelict
Too bad Mitt doesn’t have a prayer. The Christians despise him for his religion, and the rest of the party despises him for his sanity. Oh, he’ll get the votes of the remaining 2% of sane people in the GOP primaries. But that’s not enough by a long shot to overcome tyhe Palinites and the Beck/Limbaugh wing.
The Grand Panjandrum
Mitt “Who let the dogs out?” Romney got it goin’ on!
EDIT: I would normally want the Giants to crush the Cowboys by three TD’s or more but it was actually serendipitous the way they baptised ol’ Jerry Jones new playhouse last night. That was sweet.
dmsilev
@SGEW: Based on that, Romney should be opposed just on the grounds of irredeemably bad taste in reading material.
I read through that thing. In my defense, I was 13 and didn’t know any better. What’s Mitt’s justification?
-dms
JenJen
@The Grand Panjandrum: Gawd I miss the 2008 Primaries sometimes. :-)
SGEW
@dmsilev:
He’s a moron? Who knows, maybe he was lying, and just pandering to the scientologist demographic. (?)
The Grand Panjandrum
@JenJen: I always get a laugh out of that clip. You can tell Romney doesn’t hang out with average folks much.
Bill E Pilgrim
Mitt:
Sullivan:
Uh, there’s at least one in Sullivan’s response also: There is no one with “the title of Czar” in the White House.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/The-Truth-About-Czars/
Just to be clear, the job title “czar” doesn’t exist in the Obama Administration
It’s a term the media uses to refer to Presidential advisors, since mid-last century. And having Presidential advisors, that goes back much farther than that.
This is one of those charges that’s so completely invented and absurd that even those trying to debunk it still get it half wrong.
There is nothing to this one, zero, zip. The crazies could say “The media started calling Presidential advisors “Czars” and we think that’s Russian sounding and scary” but that’s about as close as you could get to something real, and that’s more a commentary on their own insanity and/or the news media’s habit of inventing cute shorthand than it is of the President or the White House, in any way.
Slightly OT:
Douthat thinks that George W Bush would have been a great President who could have been “canonized” for some of his great acts, had he only not had the terrible bad luck of engaging in those great acts while cleaning up after his own catastrophic blunders.
Or something.
He’s really more loopy than Brooks, this guy, and that’s an incredible statement when you think that we’re talking about Brooks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/opinion/21douthat.html?_r=1&hp
Leelee for Obama
The fact that Huckabee won the straw poll says volumes about where the 2012 elections will be. Mittens hasn’t met a position he couldn’t take for a few minutes, so the flip-flops are being readied as we speak. Ms. Palin will be around for awhile yet, but I don’t see her quitter-cred helping her much. I am focusing on what the Blue Dogs are doing, because they can cause more problems within the Democrats than any Republican can from outside.
The basic platform from last year has to be enacted, and the voters need to see some of it start working, and then it will not matter who runs for the Republicans…that is what I hope for anyway.
SGEW
[OT – Don’t forget to vote for Bitsy, y’all.]
jwb
@Bill E Pilgrim: Yes, Douthat makes Brooks look like a genius.
2th&nayle
Is it just me, or does anyone else get a bit of anxiety when considering how closely Gary Sinise’s background, and politics, resembles some of the other Repub picks of the last 30 years?
Leelee for Obama
@2th&nayle: Where can I read about Sinise’s politics and background? Wiki? I like him, but that’s about his acting, not his politics.
R-Jud
“It is
kind of amusing thatpretty unsurprising that the sanest of the Republican options is a serial liar and, dare I say, flip-flopper.”Fixed that for you, JC.
different church-lady
Odd way to use the word “amusing”, don’t you think?
Legalize
Q.Governor Romney, do you have a position on whether or not the goverment
Legalize
Edit: whoops.
Q. Governor Romney, do you have a position on whether or not the federal government should impose stricter regulations upon Wall Street.
A. Probably!
noncarborundum
@Legalize:
or:
A: I have several. Which one would you like to hear?
Ash Can
I really have to wonder how the GOP field will shake out in 2012. I can certainly see Sarah Palin starting strong, but, like Leelee suggests above, there’s no reason to believe she’d see the campaign through to the end. When she quit her job as governor, I was among the many who were convinced that there was a blockbuster indictment coming down the pike. When nothing materialized and it became clear that she quit simply because she couldn’t handle the pressures of the job and/or saw a much easier street via appearances and book-“writing,” we saw her true colors as far as political toughness was concerned. If her nomination isn’t a cakewalk for her, I can see her quitting at the height of the campaign, amid the proverbial (and enormous) squid-cloud of butthurt about how mean everyone’s being to her and her family and how she can’t get fair press coverage no matter what and how this country’s turned into Soviet Russia etc. etc. etc. And that of course would take place despite the heaven-only-knows how much money and free publicity Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck would invest in her. I can see some of her would-be voters then migrating to the Huckabee camp, but not all of them, since he’s neither as pretty nor as batshit insane as she is.
Mittens, on the other hand, might be seen by the remaining semi-sane Republicans (mainly the remaining old-school corporatists) as the last chance in a long time for reclaiming the party from the lunatics. There won’t be nearly as many of them to pull it off on their own, but if the other candidates all manage to cleave off their own conservative niche voters, as happened last year, Romney could possibly simply default into the nomination like McCain did.
Snarki, child of Loki
Well, in 2008, the Mittster was the one major R candidate that hadn’t indulged in serial polygamy, but for some reason he didn’t want to bring that up.
Okay, non-polygamist AS FAR AS WE KNOW.
I think Mittster needs to prove his monogamist creds, otherwise we can never be sure.
slightly_peeved
What – it’s not Atlas Shrugged? Out of the party!
TheFountainHead
I really do think it’s going to be Mitt in 2012, simply because there’s no one else I can think of who has a snowball’s chance in Hell. I mean, they’re not dumb/crazy enough to let Newt run, are they?
Ash Can
@TheFountainHead: I think the GOP leadership (i.e., the traditional, behind-the-scenes leadership) has shown its willingness to let three circus ponies and a poodle run as long as the act appeared to have the best chance of winning. The only question this time around will be which circus act the GOP leadership will back this time, since there will undoubtedly be disagreement among that leadership — which now includes such sages as Limbaugh and Beck — over which act can, and should, win.
GReynoldsCT00
Did anyone see this little nugget?
GReynoldsCT00
Crap! I still can’t do the link right.
Did anyone see the article at Raw Story about Santorum considering a run for 2012??
Surreal American
Funny, Mittens doesn’t appear to be a Marxist of the Groucho tendency:
mclaren
I’ve never met a Mormon who was mentally stable. They appear to have to believe such crazy stuff, including (but not limited to) believing that the American Indians were a lost tribe of Israelites, the claim that the Mormon god Elohim had sex with the virgin Mary to conceive Jesus, belief in multiple worlds and multiples gods and multiple heaven, the claim that Jesus visited America (!), the belief that every Mormon can and will eventually become a god, the belief that Jesus lives on a distant star called Kolob, the belief that baptizing dead people will save their souls, their belief in magic underwear, and so on, that as far as I can tell, it turns their brains to mush.
All the Mormons I’ve met believed not only the above list of craziness, but a whole additional raft of nutty stuff – global warming denial, evolution denial, homeopathic “cures,” you name it. Once they suspend their common sense to the point where the crazy belief system of the Mormon cult seem reasonable, they seem to find any other nutty belief system credible. Including (but not limited to) Satan aboard UFOs, psychic surgery, “therapeutic touch,” repressed memories, astral projection, etc.
For a list of crazy Mormon beliefs, see this site.
Frankly, there seems little difference between Mormonism and Dianetics or the Raelian saucer cult. You have to believe such crazy stuff to be a member of any of those cults that your sanity is seriously in question.
The prospect that someone who actually finds credible the bizarre beliefs of the Mormon cult could ascend to the Oval Office seems scary to me. I suspect a lot of other people harbor such reservations about Mitt Romney.
burnspbesq
Obama probably made his re-election a sure thing (barring scandal or calamity) when he co-opted Huntsman. My litmus test for electability of Republicans is whether I can see my parents voting for the person, and Huntsman is the only current Republican who passes.
Da Bomb
Mitty has shiny hair like the current worthless boob that is governor of my state. You know the secessionist.
Beware of men with shiny hair.
Grumpy Code Monkey
Crystal-ball time: the GOP nominee in 2012 will be … someone we haven’t heard of yet. Or Rick Perry, depending on how things go in Texas next year. Perry’s a jackass, but he’s not completely insane, and he knows how to play the teabaggers.
Tsulagi
Poor Mitt, he just doesn’t have what Republicans crave. While he can flip and flop with the best of them, he doesn’t have the frothing batshit craziness of a teabagger Becker or the loopy looniness of a Palin.
Maybe if Bachmann tutored him and became his campaign spokesperson he might have a chance in the R-primaries.
pcbedamned
@mclaren:
You all do realize that Glenn Beck is a Mormon, right?!?
Cheryl from Maryland
How can one trust a member of a religion that bans booze AND coffee?
Calouste
@JenJen:
In 2016, Romney will be 69, and his whole political resume will be one 4-year term as governor that ended 9 years earlier.
IndieTarheel
@Tsulagi: Electrolytes: not just for plants anymore!
drillfork
Funny how Mittens’ Mormonism scared off the base in ’08, but now super-kooky sorta Mormon Glenn Beck leads the crazies.
Beck/Romney ’12?…
EnderWiggin
How are these beliefs substantially more crazy than any other major religion? Hindus, Jews, Christians of all stripes, Muslims, Jains and Sikhs all believe equally insane things.
How is this substantially different than most conservative Christians in the US?
Mitt’s problems aren’t the special craziness of his Mormon beliefs, it is that the base he needs to gather doesn’t like his brand of crazy.
EnderWiggin
@Grumpy Code Monkey:
Yes, except I doubt Perry makes it. We probably don’t know of or barely know of the 2012 Republican candidate.
Maxwel
Ok, we need a poll. What is the better nickname for him:
. Multiple Choice Mitt
. Mitt and Mittout.
Heresiarch
Just FYI, the “Crazy Mormon Beliefs” site linked at comment 28 is a Christian site.
Rocks, glass houses, etc.
mclaren
EdnerWiggin asked:
It isn’t. The prospect of a fundamentalist Christian in the Oval Office who believes Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs to church every Sunday is just as scary as the prospect of Mitt Romney in the Oval Office.