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Georgia On My Mind

by John Cole|  September 30, 200912:41 pm| 27 Comments

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No one could have predicted:

A nine-month European Union investigation into the 2008 war in the Caucasus has concluded that Georgia triggered the conflict, but that Russia prepared the ground for war to break out and broke international law by invading Georgia as a whole.

Conclusions to the roughly 1,000 page report, released on Wednesday by Swiss diplomat Heidi Tagliavini, also found that Russia-backed South Ossetian militias committed atrocities and “ethnic cleansing” of Georgian villages during and since the war. It faulted Russian forces in control of the territory that either “would not or could not” control the South Ossetians.

Was the McCain/Palin campaign right about anything? It is probably worth remembering that Randy Scheunemann, a long time lobbyist for Georgia and agitator against Russia, was whispering in McCain’s ear during the crisis as one of his key advisors, and he has now moved on to position himself as the next Turdblossom in a future Palin administration. Remember, being wrong about everything is a key qualification for promotion in the current Republican party.

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  1. 1.

    Kryptik

    September 30, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Was the McCain/Palin campaign right about anything?

    No.

    This has been another edition of ‘Simple Answers to Simple Questions’

  2. 2.

    Zifnab

    September 30, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Was the McCain/Palin campaign right about anything?

    You mean the Palin mastery of Russian politics she gained by staring out over the horizon didn’t give them some sort of edge in punditing the conflict?

    George Bush stared into Putin’s soul and found it pure. John McCain stomped his foot and demanded we blow up South Ossetia in the name of FREEDOM! They’re all useful idiots, more interested in scoring political points today than in the long term consequences of their actions.

  3. 3.

    Ash

    September 30, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Wait, guys, can someone clear this up for me? I’m not sure if I’m still a Georgian or not. I mean, I know we all were, but when do we stop being? Does there have to be a formal declaration?

  4. 4.

    Quaker in a Basement

    September 30, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Was the McCain/Palin campaign right about anything?

    That they can fool some of the people all of the time?

  5. 5.

    anonevent

    September 30, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    One thing: That Palin would be more popular among Conservatives than McCain. Not that that means anything.

  6. 6.

    SenyorDave

    September 30, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    When McCain said “today we are all Georgians” was he in Atlanta at the time, and maybe the next day in Birmingham said “today we ar all Alabamans”?

  7. 7.

    trollhattan

    September 30, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    I’m pretty sure Palin was mostly concerned about General Sherman’s appalling actions down there. Also.

  8. 8.

    Brick Oven Bill

    September 30, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    Do not underestimate Vladmir Putin. This is not about some land in the Caucuses, or about a few rockets. The President of Georgia is an idiot , largely due to his Ivy League education. Saakashvili went to Columbia University. This is why he fell into Putin’s trap. One of Glenn Beck’s errors is being a Saakashvilli fan. Obama went to Columbia University too.

    This is all about oil, and removing NATO from between the Russian forces and the Middle East. Without NATO being in the way, Russia has a straight shot south without organized resistance.

    There are three pipelines, and one 22-mile wide waterway, that connect the Middle Eastern energy supplies to Europe. Europe has already depleted its fossil fuels due to the creativity of the population.

    After Israel nukes Iran, Russia will move in as ‘peacekeepers’. Then they will strangle their old rivals. Russia will own Europe. It will once again be the Russians against the US, but the US will prevail as we have 400 years of domestic oil shale, and a history of individual initiative.

    Smile.

  9. 9.

    IndyLib

    September 30, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    OT Harry Reid grows a vertabrae (an entire spine is still highly unlikely.

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has cancelled the Senate’s Columbus Day recess so that lawmakers can focus on passing healthcare reform legislation during the week of Oct. 12.

    Reid said the Senate would likely take up healthcare legislation on the chamber floor that week.

    Reid had threatened earlier this month to cancel the break, but unlike similar warnings in the past, the leader followed through on Wednesday.

  10. 10.

    liberal

    September 30, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    Without NATO being in the way, Russia has a straight shot south without organized resistance.

    Keep up the comic relief, BOB.

  11. 11.

    anonevent

    September 30, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill: Do you need to change your pajamas after that wet dream?

  12. 12.

    Cat Lady

    September 30, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    I’m sure President McCain will be asked to address this issue by one of the bobbleheads of the several Sunday talk shows he will undoubtedly be on.

    /facepalm

  13. 13.

    freelancer

    September 30, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    @Ash:

    Win.

  14. 14.

    gocart mozart

    September 30, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    The President of Georgia is an idiot , largely due to his Ivy League education. Saakashvili went to Columbia University. This is why he fell into Putin’s trap. One of Glenn Beck’s errors is being a Saakashvilli fan. Obama went to Columbia University too.

    If he had only gone to the Limbaugh School of Political Science and Television Repair, none of this would have ever happened.

  15. 15.

    KG

    September 30, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    This is all about oil, and removing NATO from between the Russian forces and the Middle East. Without NATO being in the way, Russia has a straight shot south without organized resistance.

    Yeah, because colonialism worked so well for the Europeans in Mesopotamia.

    Oh, and other people holding Ivy League degrees: George W Bush (Yale and Harvard), Mitt Romney (Harvard JD/MBA), Don Rumsfeld (Princeton), Dick Cheney flunked out of Yale, Sandy Berger (Cornell and Harvard), Paul Wolfowitz went to Cornell, Alberto Gonzales (Harvard JD). So yeah, I could see how one would think that having a degree from an Ivy League school would make you an idiot.

  16. 16.

    Scruffy McSnufflepuss

    September 30, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    Do not underestimate Vladmir Putin. This is not about some land in the Caucuses, or about a few rockets. The President of Georgia is an idiot , largely due to his Ivy League education. Saakashvili went to Columbia University. This is why he fell into Putin’s trap. One of Glenn Beck’s errors is being a Saakashvilli fan. Obama went to Columbia University too.

    This paragraph is brilliantly nonsensical. The whole post is great, but this paragraph is the best.

    Really, you should submit that to Kaplan. You might land a job out of it.

  17. 17.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    September 30, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    Was the McCain/Palin campaign right about anything?

    OK, I have to give them this: the moment when the frizzy haired old lady at one of McCain’s late season campaign rallies stammered at McCain that she couldn’t trust Obama because “he’s, he’s, he’s not… he’s an ARAB”, and McCain took the microphone away from her and shook his head sadly and muttered “No, no”.

    He was right about that.

    I’d love to know what was going through Walnuts’ mind at that exact moment. It had to be some mix of “these people are nucking futs“, and “Oh shite, I am so screwed“. I like to think that was the exact moment when he first knew for dead certain that he was going to lose the election.

  18. 18.

    IndieTarheel

    September 30, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill: You know, that chicken put in an awful lot of effort crossing the road and everything for you to be half-assing it like this. Cluck harder!

  19. 19.

    trollhattan

    September 30, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    It’s a sure sign of the apocalypse when bOb starts channeling Noam Chomsky. I’m headed for das bunker, y’all.

  20. 20.

    IndieTarheel

    September 30, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:

    OK, I have to give them this: the moment when the frizzy haired old lady at one of McCain’s late season campaign rallies stammered at McCain that she couldn’t trust Obama because “he’s, he’s, he’s not… he’s an ARAB”, and McCain took the microphone away from her and shook his head sadly and muttered “No, no”.

    Actually, that only counts as a half point for the campaign, because while Johnny Mac cleared the bar, Starbursts Barbie failed, spectacularly.

  21. 21.

    licensed to kill time

    September 30, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    @IndieTarheel:

    BoB puts an awful lot of effort into fuNking that chicken, too. No wonder he’s tired.

  22. 22.

    tamied

    September 30, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    All I know is, this is good news for John McCain

  23. 23.

    geogiasucks

    September 30, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    http://weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp#13417

    Perhaps the single stupidest post that Michael Goldfarb has ever authored, and that says quite a lot. Can someone please shame this fatass?

  24. 24.

    Comrade Dread

    September 30, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    Was the McCain/Palin campaign right about anything?

    No. And it should be repeated a lot and loudly that McCain and several prominent Republicans were willing to go to war with Russia to defend that autocrat and his stupid aggression.

    It should be brought up whenever someone (from either party) floats the brilliant idea of expanding NATO to Ukraine or Georgia which would drag us (by treaty) into their conflict with nuclear power Russia the next time they get into a pissing match with Moscow.

    It should prompt a sober reanalysis of just what purpose maintaining NATO does now and why the interests of Americans are linked to defending Poland from a Russian threat that does not exist, and whether or not we would appreciate a similarly themed defensive alliance led by Russia being offered to Mexico.

    But that won’t happen, because sober analysis is forbidden when it comes to foreign policy, because if we don’t have some external threat (even a non-existent one), then we can’t justify spending hundreds of billions of dollars on maintaining a global military presence and hundreds of thousands of folks in the defense contractor industry might need to find private sector jobs.

  25. 25.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    September 30, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    This just confirms my long-held opinion that Georgians everywhere are fucking insane.

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