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Skull Whatting What?

by John Cole|  October 1, 200910:57 am| 72 Comments

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Rumor has it, a certain phrase that was born here was used on the Daily Show last night. Anyone know which clip?

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  1. 1.

    Egypt Steve

    October 1, 2009 at 11:01 am

    have no idea how to embed clips but it was in a bit about Chuck Grassly citing a poll that if you describe the “Public Option” as the “Government Option,” then support for it goes “below a majority.” JS then noted that if you describe it as a “Government Option that skull-fucks kittens,” then support for it would go WAY down … “BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT THE BILL SAYS!”

  2. 2.

    Egypt Steve

    October 1, 2009 at 11:03 am

    That said, I have no idea what “skull-fucking” is supposed to be, or if you could do it to a live kitten … certainly the only way I would try it.

  3. 3.

    Cat G

    October 1, 2009 at 11:04 am

    It’s in the first segment, abt 4 minutes in while Stewart if beating on the Democrats…who deserve it.

  4. 4.

    Zifnab

    October 1, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Can we get “Skull Fuck a Kitten” in the Lexicon?

  5. 5.

    George

    October 1, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Here you go

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-september-30-2009/democratic-super-majority

    I giggled…

    oh heck I copied their link sourse. it’s on america blogs front page

    http://www.americablog.com/

  6. 6.

    Dr. Squid

    October 1, 2009 at 11:07 am

    @George: 404 on that link.

  7. 7.

    dmsilev

    October 1, 2009 at 11:10 am

    It’s this one, about 3 minutes in.

    Edit: Link doesn’t work. Go to http://www.thedailyshow.com and select the ‘Democratic Supermajority’ video.

    -dms

  8. 8.

    Cat Lady

    October 1, 2009 at 11:11 am

    @Zifnab:

    Look under “S”.

  9. 9.

    Comrade Mary

    October 1, 2009 at 11:12 am

    Get the Canadianized version here. Crucial phrase at 3:35.

  10. 10.

    Scruffy McSnufflepuss

    October 1, 2009 at 11:13 am

    @Egypt Steve:

    That said, I have no idea what “skull-fucking” is supposed to be, or if you could do it to a live kitten … certainly the only way I would try it.

    AFAIK, it’s fellatio in which the male takes the active role.

    Or so I’ve been told.

  11. 11.

    Egypt Steve

    October 1, 2009 at 11:13 am

    Everyone here probably knows this … I’m so naive. But thank Osiris for Wikipedia. “Skull fucking” re-directs to:

    Irrumatio, also called irrumation is a type of sexual intercourse performed by actively thrusting one’s penis into a partner’s mouth[1] and throat. It may also be the thrusting of the penis between the legs, feet, upper thighs (also known as interfemoral sex), or between the abdomens of two partners.

  12. 12.

    wasabi gasp

    October 1, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Jon really should invite John on the show now. And, John really should sneak all of us in under his sombrero.

  13. 13.

    Warren Terra

    October 1, 2009 at 11:14 am

    Zifnab, it’s been there practically from the beginning. Though its claim (#1 Google hit for the phrase is at Balloon-Juice) might cease to be true if Stewart’s use goes viral, or if it starts a trend.

  14. 14.

    Comrade Mary

    October 1, 2009 at 11:15 am

    Considering the size of an actual kitten’s skull, isn’t it rather demeaning to suggest that some guy does this? Skull-fucking a zebra would be something to brag about.

  15. 15.

    r€nato

    October 1, 2009 at 11:19 am

    Skull-fuck a kitten was invented here? Srsly? I thought that one had been around for a while.

    By the way it’s my birthday today and you can help me celebrate it by visiting the new online store for my photo prints which you folks helped inspire.

    Please don’t visit it using IE, both because IE sucks ass and also because I am still working out fixes for the buggy behavior for which IE is known. Checked in Firefox and Safari and works fine…

  16. 16.

    jibeaux

    October 1, 2009 at 11:20 am

    @Egypt Steve:

    For some reason, this is just waaaaay more disturbing than some abstract concept of SFAK, and I’m starting to feel really, really anxious for Egyptian kittens.

  17. 17.

    geg6

    October 1, 2009 at 11:22 am

    That was awesome. Even more awesome is that we have lurkers here who write for Jon Stewart.

  18. 18.

    Mr Furious

    October 1, 2009 at 11:22 am

    @Scruffy McSnufflepuss:

    AFAIK, it’s fellatio in which the male takes the active role.

    I might be the outlier here, but what I understood skull-fucking to be a bit intense than that…

    First, the “skull” wasn’t alive. Second, it wasn’t the mouth…

  19. 19.

    Scruffy McSnufflepuss

    October 1, 2009 at 11:23 am

    @Comrade Mary:

    Depends on what species the kitten is. If it’s a lion kitten, you can at least brag about the size of your cojones.

  20. 20.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    October 1, 2009 at 11:23 am

    Sounded like the Daily Show audience was more horrified than amused when he used the “skull-fucking kittens” phrase.

  21. 21.

    Mr Furious

    October 1, 2009 at 11:23 am

    Maybe Roman Polanski could help clear this up for us…

  22. 22.

    Mr Furious

    October 1, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Back on topic, that was an awesome statement by Stewart.

  23. 23.

    Scruffy McSnufflepuss

    October 1, 2009 at 11:25 am

    @Mr Furious:

    First, the “skull” wasn’t alive. Second, it wasn’t the mouth…

    Man, that’s pretty vicious. I like my definition better. Less disturbing. (I never thought there was a definition of skullfucking that would make mine seem tame…)

  24. 24.

    Akapod

    October 1, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Not sure when Balloon Juice lays claim to skull fucking, but the Onion News Network reported on the Oracular Penetration Restriction Act of 2007.

  25. 25.

    asiangrrlMN

    October 1, 2009 at 11:30 am

    Hee-hee. Jon Stewart said skull-fucking on the TV machine. I would totally love it if Stewart had Cole on the show, but I doubt Cole would go.

  26. 26.

    Martin

    October 1, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Skull-fuck a kitten is in the lexicon, btw. As if we wouldn’t have gotten that in early.

    And I find the analysis of the term more than a little creepy – like Star Trek geeks arguing over how best to fuck the green alien girl.

  27. 27.

    Cat Lady

    October 1, 2009 at 11:32 am

    @geg6:

    This.

    Comb your hair, sit up straight and bring your A game.

  28. 28.

    slag

    October 1, 2009 at 11:34 am

    I honestly didn’t think it was possible for me to be more pissed off at the world than I have been these last several weeks but just watching that Daily Show clip did it for me.

    F#cking useless bastards. All of them.

  29. 29.

    ed_finnerty

    October 1, 2009 at 11:41 am

    As far as I know it originated in ‘Full Metal Jacket’ where the DI says “I will gouge your eyes out and skull fuck you”

    i think Mr Furious is correct

  30. 30.

    geg6

    October 1, 2009 at 11:46 am

    @ed_finnerty:

    You may be right (and I think you are) that “skull fucking” was referenced in Full Metal Jacket.

    But that is not even the same as “skull fucking a kitten.” Not even a little bit.

  31. 31.

    john b

    October 1, 2009 at 11:47 am

    skull-fucking was a term before this site existed. i remember hearing this term in high school over ten years ago. sorry to burst bubbles. now maybe the kittens bit was something new.

  32. 32.

    SteveinSC

    October 1, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Maybe Roman Polanski could help clear this up for us…

    OT It appears the term “holocaust” is a registered trademark which can only be used by Jews to instill remorse or abject guilt in gentiles (See Rachel Madow, September 30, 2009.) Sometimes used to justify calls for non-extradition of runaway rapists. No longer can be used to refer to destructive fires with great loss of life (e.g. The New Merriam-Webster Dictionary, 1989 page 353).

  33. 33.

    dr.hypercube

    October 1, 2009 at 11:48 am

    Another vote for both Monsieur Furious and R. Lee.

  34. 34.

    AkaDad

    October 1, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Tunch is NOT amused.

  35. 35.

    JGabriel

    October 1, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Comrade Mary:

    Considering the size of an actual kitten’s skull, isn’t it rather demeaning to suggest that some guy does this?

    Don’t worry, they’re Republicans. (The guys who do that, not the kittens.)

    .

  36. 36.

    Comrade Mary

    October 1, 2009 at 11:51 am

    The term “squick” refers to the sound of skull fucking (see definition #2 here) and it dates back to 1994, but I can’t remember seeing a kitten brought into the mix before John mentioned it.

  37. 37.

    Max B.

    October 1, 2009 at 11:52 am

    mr. furious and ed_finnerty are indeed correct about the origins and nature of the broader term “skull fucking,” which r. lee ermey originated in full metal jacket, in which he improvised much if not most of his dialogue. his ability to do this was nothing short of astonishing:

    Former U.S. Marine Drill Instructor R. Lee Ermey was originally hired as a technical adviser and asked Kubrick if he could audition for the role of Hartman. However Kubrick, having seen his portrayal as Drill Instructor SSgt Loyce in The Boys in Company C, told him that he wasn’t vicious enough to play the character.[2] In response, Ermey made a videotape of himself improvising insulting dialogue towards a group of Royal Marines while being pelted by people off-camera with oranges and tennis balls. Ermey, in spite of the distractions, rattled off an unbroken string of insults for 15 minutes, and he did not flinch, duck, or repeat himself while being hit with the projectiles.[2] Upon viewing it, Kubrick gave him the role, realizing that Ermey “was a genius for this part,”[4] and estimates that Ermey came up with 150 pages of insults, much of it being improvised on the spot, a noted rarity for a Kubrick film. In addition, Ermey was so convincing as the DI that in one instance between takes, Ermey had barked an order at Kubrick while in-character, and almost as if by instinct, Kubrick stood up at attention and followed orders before realizing what had happened.[7] According to Kubrick’s estimate, 50% of Ermey’s dialogue, especially the insults, were written by the former drill instructor,[7] and Ermey usually needed only two to three takes per scene, another rarity for a Kubrick film.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Metal_Jacket#Casting

    keep in mind that stanley kubrick, to use just one example, in shooting paths of glory, once took nearly fifty takes of a scene in which a group of soldiers have duck as their last meal, even though each new take required a fresh duck. r. lee ermey is the insult master.

    as for the skull-fucking of kittens, specifically, that seems to have indeed originated here.

  38. 38.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    October 1, 2009 at 11:54 am

    John actually got Tunch because he wanted to skullfuck a kitten, like any other good Republican sociopath. But then he switched parties and Tunch was all like “Shew!”

  39. 39.

    Skepticat

    October 1, 2009 at 11:55 am

    I hate this phrase, no matter what it means.

  40. 40.

    J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford

    October 1, 2009 at 11:55 am

    @Egypt Steve:

    That said, I have no idea what “skull-fucking” is supposed to be, or if you could do it to a live kitten … certainly the only way I would try it.

    Perhaps this little exchange from Grosse Pointe Blank will enlighten you:

    Mr. Grocer: After we do your job, we’re gonna do another job.

    Martin: Tell me about it.

    Mr. Grocer: Like I’m gonna put a bullet hole in your fuckin’ forehead, and I’m gonna fuck the brain hole!

  41. 41.

    jwb

    October 1, 2009 at 11:56 am

    @john b: Adding kitten to the locution made it genius.

  42. 42.

    Comrade Mary

    October 1, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Now we know why the ObWi mascot is armed. It’s a harsh world out there.

  43. 43.

    r€nato

    October 1, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    @SteveinSC:

    I understand your point but I liked the point Rachel was making. It is far too common for people – everyone, right and left – to fall back on calling people “Nazi’s”, “Hitler”, and referring to something as another “Holocaust”.

    I think it is pretty clear the congressman wasn’t talking about a tragedy, he was going Godwin.

    When everyone is a Hitler, when every unfortunate situation is a Holocaust… it robs those names/words of their meaning.

  44. 44.

    wasabi gasp

    October 1, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    The depth of skull-fucking intelligentsia here is repulsively impressive.

  45. 45.

    SpotWeld

    October 1, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    I’m still geeking out from the ASimov reference they had on Monday.

  46. 46.

    wrb

    October 1, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    @john b:

    Skullfuck was a Jerry Garcia coinage, or at least a phrase he used a lot.

    It meant an experience, drug trip or fact (or concert) that seriously messed with your previous way of thinking.

    The album Steal Your Face was originally titled Skullfuck.

    The graphic (skull with lightning bolt cranium) was a depiction of the sensation.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xyN9EUXaxgg/RoJjiDA6I9I/AAAAAAAAAEU/ObgwjMA2VKs/s400/steal%2520your%2520face.jpg

  47. 47.

    SGEW

    October 1, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Declaration: SFAK is now passé. End of an era, folks.

  48. 48.

    jwb

    October 1, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    @SGEW: We can only hope.

  49. 49.

    Mr Furious

    October 1, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    @ed_finnerty: Thanks for the reminder…I was starting to wonder where the hell my imagination was coming up with that shit.

  50. 50.

    wrb

    October 1, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    @wrb:

    Correction:

    Memory is clearing. While the “skullfuck” logo ended up on Steal Your Face, the album that was supposed to be called “Skullfuck” is the 1970-71 live album that is only called “The Grateful Dead”. Skullfuck being rejected by the record company is how they ended up with two albums with the same name.

  51. 51.

    wrb

    October 1, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    @wrb:

    Correction:

    Memory is clearing. While the “skullfuck” logo ended up on Steal Your Face, the album that was supposed to be called “Skullfuck” is the 1970-71 live album that is only called “The Grateful Dead”. Skullfuck being rejected by the record company is how they ended up with two albums with the same name.

  52. 52.

    bedtimeforbonzo

    October 1, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    “Now we know why the ObWi mascot is armed.”

    Good one, Comrade Mary.

  53. 53.

    Dreggas

    October 1, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Skullfuck was a term used in Full Metal Jacket by R Lee Ermey, if i recall it was:

    “I will pluck out your eyeballs and I will skullfuck you”

    “Skull fuck a kitten” was a phrase used here first AFAIK

  54. 54.

    eyelessgame

    October 1, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Wasn’t there an actual instance of skulllfucking in Scary Movie done as an American Pie parody? (I didn’t see the movie, so my information is secondhand).

  55. 55.

    AlanDean

    October 1, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    The Grateful Dead double live album from 1971 I knew as the “Skeleton Album”. I was told later it was known by DeadHeads as “Skull Fuck” and that skull fucking was to dose someone by rubbing your LSD coated finger on their forehead, where the blood vessels took the drug straight to the brain. Now a nasty thing to do that to someone, I guess it was one way to get your reluctant buddies to turn on. We now have a headache medicine delivery system that uses that technique.

    If one was a Dead Head in the early 1970’s I don’t see how they could remember. All this does remind me of an Iggy Pop song called “Lust for Life” with the line “of course I’ve had it in the ear before…”

  56. 56.

    wrb

    October 1, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    The imagery of the more abstract skullfuck- “The first time I heard Art Tatum was a skullfuck, man”- leaves more sweetness and light in my day than some of the alternatives.

    I like thinking that skullfucking a kitten primarily involves catnip.

  57. 57.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    October 1, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    Tbogg: “..and to use John Cole’s delightful phrase, if Pete Stark had stood on the floor of the House and said that George Bush “skull-fucked a kitten every night …”

  58. 58.

    BruinKid

    October 1, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    My God, an entire thread on skull-fucking and its origins. FTW.

  59. 59.

    Viacondotti

    October 1, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    @Egypt Steve: Catullus has a great poem where he tells some dude that he’s mad at, “Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo…”

    I’ll let you guys figure out the first word. “-bo” = 1st person future indicative, or “I will […] you.”

  60. 60.

    Screamin' Demon

    October 1, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    As far as I know it originated in ‘Full Metal Jacket’ where the DI says “I will gouge your eyes out and skull fuck you”

    The first time I heard the words “skull-fucking,” I was 12 years old.

    I was 12 years old in 1975.

    Love the way some folks think they invented a certain phrase, with a smug certainty that they, and only they, in a nation of 300 million people, could ever have thought it up.

  61. 61.

    SKI

    October 1, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    Alas, the interwebs indicate that skull fucking kittens was in use back in 2004…

    From the August 16, 2004 comments in this thread

    The way I read what he’s saying is that if people cite a source for their information, and the source is something “everyone knows” to be biased (MoveOn, NewsMax, etc) they’ll print a letter (or likely one out of the hundreds they receive) and leave it up to their viewers to draw the obvious conclusion: “Well, that letter claiming that Bush/Kerry likes to skullfuck kittens came from MoveOn/NewsMax so it’s probably not reliable.“

    So sad. :(
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  62. 62.

    Seanly

    October 1, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    @Scruffy McSnufflepuss:
    It may now have that meaning, but my take is that it is a particularly gruesome affiar. The first popular media mention of skull fucking is in Full Metal Jacket:

    Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Private Pyle I’m gonna give you three seconds; exactly three-fucking-seconds to wipe that stupid looking grin off your face or I will gouge out your eyeballs and skull-fuck you! ONE! TWO! THREE!

  63. 63.

    Seanly

    October 1, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    derr… wtf is the point of edit function if it don’ts save!

    I only wanted to add:

    oops, I see a lot of other folks already mentioned this. I hadn’t heard the Grateful Dead connection, but I think the common usage is more R. Lee Ermey’s spin. I would imagine that both usages have been around for some time before either Garcia or Ermey.

    I’ve heard mindfuck to mean the usage envisioned by Garcia (although that meaning has also changed to include being decieved).

  64. 64.

    Genine

    October 1, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Juicers rock.

  65. 65.

    ed_finnerty

    October 1, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    screamin demon

    take a pill

  66. 66.

    Molly

    October 1, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    Please, please, please tell me we are not having a thread on the meaning of skull fucking and the implications towards young felines.

    Sigh. Looks like we are.

  67. 67.

    calipygian

    October 1, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    I actually think that the intellectual godfather of “skull fucking a kitten” is Paul Krassner’s description of LBJ attempting to enlarge the entry wound in Kenndy’s head on the plane back to the autopsy:

    “During that tense flight from Dallas to Washington after the assassination, Jackie inadvertently walked in on Johnson as he was standing over the casket of his predecessor and chuckling…

    “‘I’m telling you this for the historical record,’ she said, ‘so that people a hundred years from now will know what I had to go through… That man was crouching over the corpse, no longer chuckling but breathing hard and moving his body rhythmically. At first I thought he must be performing some mysterious symbolic rite he’d learned from Mexicans or Indians as a boy. And then I realized—there is only one way to say this—he was literally fucking my husband in the throat. In the bullet wound in the front of his throat. He reached a climax and dismounted. I froze. The next thing I remember, he was being sworn in as the new president.’

    If such a thing can HAVE an intellectual godfather, that is.

  68. 68.

    Cris

    October 1, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Sorry, Kubrick fans, but An Officer and a Gentleman predates Full Metal Jacket by a good five years. So even if you’re just talking about “popular media mention,” Louis Gossett, Jr. beats R. Lee Ermey on this one.

  69. 69.

    Yutsano

    October 1, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    From the way I understand the Google working, have we now not just enshrined (at least for a while) BJ as the head result for skull fucking kittens?

  70. 70.

    Porlock Junior

    October 2, 2009 at 2:21 am

    I’m always glad to see Paul Krassner getting the credit that’s due him. So let’s be scholarly here and footnote the great LBJ Neckrophilia Caper. Also, the followup in the next issue.

  71. 71.

    mclaren

    October 2, 2009 at 3:33 am

    Didn’t John Cole also invent (or popularize) the term “27 percenters”? That’s another one that should be in the lexicon. If memory serves, John first used the term “27 percenters” in discussing the number of hard-core crazy people in the electorate — 27% voted for Alan Keyes in the election between Obama and Keyes for the open Senate seat.

  72. 72.

    Anne Laurie

    October 2, 2009 at 4:18 am

    @mclaren: There’s an entry in the Lexicon under ‘Crazification Factor’ crediting John Rogers’ blog Kung-Fu Monkey
    for the concept. It should probably be cross-referenced under ‘27%ers’ — and when WP stops fatal-error-ing me from editing the Lexicon, it will be.

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