I missed this the first time Kos posted it but saw it in this piece:
So when did wingnuts start cheering against America? Their unbridled joy at losing out to Brazil is a bit unseemly, isn’t it? “America, fuck yeah!” has become “Fuck America, Yeah!”
I like it because (a) it sums things up perfectly and (b) it sounds *exactly* like something from the Balloon Juice comments.
Betseed
This is just the flip side of their overlapping of Bush with America, and reveals the dangers of ever conflating the President with the country. Bush was considered a legitimate authority, Obama’s not. But it’s the same authoritarian impulse.
aimai
I thought I did see it on Balloon Juice first, actually, somewhere deep in comments. Because when I saw it on Kos I thought I’d already seen that joke here.
aimai
HRA
The way I see it is giving the finger to McCain’s “Country First”.
SenyorDave
OT, but the one big criticism I have of Obama is that he is squishy. Big example, DADT. Many of his supporters (myself included) pissed off that it still exists, but Obama never comes out and says it is still a goal to get rid of it.
Once in a while a president should play to his base. I didn’t vote for Obama solely because he said he would move to repeal DADT, but it was part of the whole package.
simonee
I love how the media joined in the “but is he patriotic?” whisper campaign against Obama for not wearing a fucking flag pin, but won’t even delve into the fact that the entire conservative intelligencia (oxymoron?) was happy that America lost the bid for the Olympics.
raff
From “America, fuck yeah!” to “America, fuck you!” would work equally as well. (Although that usually comes from people on the outside yelling in, not from actual, you know, Americans.)
Erik Vanderhoff
You forget your Wingnut Logic 101: Chicago voted for Obama. Voting for Obama is anti-American. Ergo, Chicago is not part of America. QED.
Warren Terra
Someone else’s Google-Fu may be stronger, but a couple of Google searches don’t find it here before today.
Brachiator
@simonee:
Whisper campaign? This crap is the centerpiece of wingnut thinking.
And some of the Sunday pundits tiptoed into the unseemly conservative joy over the loss of the Olympics bid, but quickly stepped back.
A slight modification. It’s “Fuck America, as long as Obama is president, Yeah!
DougJ
I thought I did see it on Balloon Juice first, actually, somewhere deep in comments.
I kind of did too, but who knows where or when.
GregB
Just another extension of drug addled Rush Limbaugh’s dream of hoping President Obama fails.
One cannot hope for Obama to fail without hoping for the country to fail.
-G
Keith
This has got to be close to peak wingnut – mere *months* (hell, maybe it’s weeks) after excoriating Obama for being part of the “blame America first” crowd, and less than a year after basing their entire presidential campaign around the slogan “Country First”, these guys literally *cheered* when America lost the Olympics.
T
Here’s a graphic representation
jurassicpork
Has anyone ever wondered if teabaggers have a chat room and if so, what they say? Well, wonder no more (Now, with 100% more avatars!).
Penfold
Hasn’t this always been the ethos of the wingnut crowd, though, really? Their idea of what America should be really has nothing to do with what the Founders intended, nor with world in which most of us live. They’re trying to create some fundamentalist utopia that bears no resemblance to the Enlightenment ideals on which this country was founded.
The Dangerman
Sadly, one of the parties in our two party system has gone howling dog mad (with all due apologies to Bitsy, Lily, and all of our other canine partners); right now, Sarah Palin – Sarah fucking Palin – is probably the frontrunner for the 2012 nomination. We may need FEMA camps to try to contain this madness…
freelancer
@Keith:
I think peak wingnut in this case is akin to reaching light speed. Physically impossible as it requires infinite energy and a complete loss of mass. The best you can do is reach 99.9999(infinite)% the peak of wingnut.
For example, under the nightmare scenario that a suitcase nuke is detonated in NYC, these same cunts who broke out the Lee Greenwood on 9/12 will be falling over themselves to impeach Obama and cheer the vaporization of elitist fags. Now if terrorists had attacked somewhere Real, like say Padukah, KY or Valdosta, GA then the teabaggers would get all weepy and still not then reached peak wingnut.
New Yorker
Long time lurker, first time poster…..
Chicago is not part of Real America, just ask Sarah Palin.
But imagine if Gatlinburg, Tennessee had lost its Olympic bid. Then you’d see weeping and gnashing of teeth from the wignutosphere.
Dean Wormer
@jurassicpork:
woof, that’s more like 1000% more.
add a NSFW tag next time, please.
Omnes Omnibus
@jurassicpork: I clicked on that. You owe me new eyes.
PaulW
@freelancer:
Now THAT I’ve seen before on Balloon Juice. The headline was “They’ve Gone To Plaid”, I believe… (Maybe “Ludicrous Speed”, it’s hard to remember since it was posted last… what, April? August?)
As for conservatives cheering AGAINST America winning an Olympics bid, just remember that the Olympics are a covert socialist conspiracy to TAKE OVER THE WORLD with Jamaican bobsledders!!! They’re just watching out for us, thas all…
Joel
These clowns aren’t American traitors. They’re Brazilian patriots.
freelancer
@Omnes Omnibus:
THIS.
DougJ
But imagine if Gatlinburg, Tennessee had lost its Olympic bid. Then you’d see weeping and gnashing of teeth from the wignutosphere.
I wonder about that too.
What if this had happened while Clinton was president and the city had been Little Rock? How different would reaction have been?
LD50
Not at all.
ericblair
@Penfold: Hasn’t this always been the ethos of the wingnut crowd, though, really? Their idea of what America should be really has nothing to do with what the Founders intended, nor with world in which most of us live.
The teabaggers are lizard brain tribalists. They’ve self-selected their tribemates, made sure that everybody spouts the same gibberish and has got a hate-on for the right Others. When their tribe had the keys to the kingdom, criticism of anything to do with the President was treason. Now that the American people have taken their toy away, we can all go straight to Hell. They don’t care about America; they never did.
schrodinger's cat
@DougJ:
OT: Are you a mathematician or a statistician? I am taking a 600 level class in Stats and boy is it hard.
Shell
Didn’t Drudge put it thus..
“Bad for USA? Good for GOP?”
aimai
Oh yes, there wouldn’t have been a smidge of difference in the attitude. Everything with which Clinton was associated was attacked. Arkansas would have been, too.
But this brings up something that appears in Bob Altemeyer’s “The Authoritarians.” One of the tests he gives people asks them if they would be willing to do certain things if the “authorities” asked them to. The list looks (something) like this:
The Authorities have determined that your neighbor is a terrorist and a danger to society. Would you be willing to
a) watch them
b) spy on them
c) dig through their trash
d) report them
e) arrest them
f) help torture them.
Something like that. Well, after figuring out where on the scale of authoritarian bastard you are from “hell no!” to “of course” he then starts altering the category “neighbor” and starts including categories not as scary as “terrorist” but substituting things like *the Canadian milk marketing board*. He starts adding categories that the test taker actually belongs to–like lutheran or milk marketer or whatever. *The kind of person who is willing to round up their neighbors and shoot them on the say so of an authority turns out to be the kind of person who is willing to round up and shoot himself if he finds himself in a prohibited category.*
My take home lesson from that is that *when authority itself becomes foreign and delegitimized* a very angry, authoritarian person has no trouble dissociating himself and his own membership from the category “needs to be punished.” I have no doubt that right wing Chicagoans or Arkansans who really hated Clinton would *themselves* cheer the loss of the olympics as a form of righteous punishment.
these people are crazy.
aimai
fortygeek
@jurassicpork: Ugh! Where is the eye bleach when you need it?
DougJ
OT: Are you a mathematician or a statistician?
Mathematician. But I used to teach an intro to statistics class.
JackieBinAZ
@jurassicpork: It’s fun to go in those rooms and thank them all for the welfare checks and free cheese.
Boots Day
The Right has been anti-American for a long time, from Bill O’Reilly and Stu Bykofsky openly hoping for a terrorist attack to Todd Palin joining a secessionist organization.
I thought the back-to-school speech, when the Right fulminated against the president for encouraging kids to work hard and stay in school, might be the moment at which the general meme emerged that these guys really don’t give a crap about this country. That didn’t happen, but maybe the Olympics loss will be the turning point.
Brachiator
@DougJ:
Well, people would have been shocked that the IOC considered Little Rock to be on a par with cities like Madrid or Rio or Athens.
But apart from this, I don’t think there would have been anything like the same reaction.
I think the reaction might have been somewhat the same had Hillary Clinton been elected president and the city in question been New York, or even Chicago.
While his enemies hated Bill Clinton and obviously tried to tear him down, it is only recently that conservatives have perfected the strategy of ABC, Always Be Criticizing Obama, no matter what he does, or even if he is doing exactly the same thing that his Republican predecessor did.
Also, while most of us recognize the racial anxiety reflected in reaction to Obama, sometimes we under-estimate the degree to which this is part of the knee-jerk opposition to even the ceremonial and personal aspects of his presidency.
If Obama had been elected as a Republican president, there would still be a lunatic birther fringe, but the GOP would not feed it.
Makewi
It isn’t Americas misfortune that some Conservatives are cheering, it is Barack “my diplomacy is unstoppable” Obama’s inability to live up to the image he put out on the campaign trail. If you paid attention to some of the criticisms of Obama during the election, his naivete on issues of diplomacy was a big one.
So, it’s like a “see, I told you!” moment.
Johnny Pez
Why do conservatives hate America?
Martin
Kos (and the other FPers) have been linking here rather a lot. I get the feeling they wish they could let the attitude fly a little more than they know they can get away with. Kos gets quite a bit more TV time than Cole does, after all.
Martin
Oh, I should note, that I’d pay serious money to see tbogg as a regular on the Sunday morning circuit.
Origuy
According to http://www.gamesbids.com/eng/bid_archives.html, for the 2012 Olympics:
It also reports that the vote for the 2014 Winter Olympics was the first election in which all national leaders made presentations.
SiubhanDuinne
@Origuy 8:32 pm
This is no criticism of you at all — in fact, that was a very interesting article you cited — but isn’t it weird that they identified New York as a “world capital”? I know NYC is often thought of (rightly) as a financial capital or cultural capital or media capital (or fashion, or publishing, etc.), but “world capital” in this context just seems like an odd designation.
Fuck DougJ
Ya so your a Fuckin Cunt. Suck my dick you pussy Bitch. I hope you step on a Land mine or some shit, and live so i can poke you while you crawl around. Your the definition of a chode. I hope you do come to America and get shot because your like a said, a pussy. No no, actually join the Telaban so our Bad Ass fuckin Military can spit some rounds at ya. Fuck i hate you! Peace bro