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Are we really all Mayans now?

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The fact that is one of the top stories on “Politico click” right now makes me wonder if we’ll make it to 2012:

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TMZ has a video of former Olympian and “Keeping Up with the Kardashians” reality star Bruce Jenner weighing in on President Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize win.

And I say all of this as someone that was quite fond of the Bruce Jenner collection.

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  1. 1.

    General Winfield Stuck

    that dude looks like he’s had more facelifts and botox injections that Phylis Diller/and Howard Fineman combined.

  3. 3.

    cmorenc

    The picture makes Jenner look like Donnie Osmond’s lost brother that Donnies mother never told him about.

  4. 4.

    TenguPhule

    When they interview Tom Delay about the Nobel Prize, it’s time for revolution because this society has lost all hope.

  6. 6.

    Max

    So, add Jenner to Jon Voight and it looks like Obama has lost the bad face work, washed up has-been, old white guy demographic.

    I can’t wait to hear what Steven Segal thinks.

  7. 7.

    General Winfield Stuck

    “Are we really all Mayans now?”

    What do people have against the Aztecs? I mean they had it all, human sacrifices and even Pyramids, and were a lot closer to the us, maybe even their empire stretched to my apartment building. Some experts say.

  8. 8.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Max:

    I can’t wait to hear what Steven Segal thinks.

    Ever see that fucker run/ Like a dern headless chicken. John Leguizamo once did a hilarious imitation of it.

  11. 11.

    JK

    Doug,

    How is this any worse than soliciting the views of other irrelevant, washed-up celebritites like Andy Williams, Angie Harmon, and Victoria Jackson?

    What do you expect from Politico?

    A Politico story, titled “Roman Polanski backers Gave $34K to Barack Obama, DNC,” reported that Hollywood types urging Polanski’s release shelled out that amount to the DNC and to Obama’s presidential campaign. It took a beating in the blogosphere for concocting a link between Polanski and Dems that seemed almost comically tenuous.

    “We will look for the political angle in virtually any story,” responded top Politico editor Jim VandeHei. “This short blog item was done for the Click page — where we run a lot of entertainment and personality items. It was quick item based on FEC data alone.”

    h/t http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/democratic-national-committee/dnc-rips-politico-story-tying-polanski-to-obama-silly-amateur-hour

  12. 12.

    scarshapedstar

    When I saw

    “Politico click”

    I first read it as “Politico dick”.

    Finally, proof of what I’ve always suspected: prolonged exposure to sans-serif fonts turns you gay.

  18. 18.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Max:

    Gee, thanks. There is a cool story about the making of “Executive Decision” a movie made back in the 90’s I think.

    Where when Segal was told his character would die early in the movie, he threw a huge hissy fit that he couldn’t die in a movie, never had, and was too big a name for that. Well, sure enough, he died in the first half hour.

  19. 19.

    Brachiator

    @MikeJ:

    What’s a Kardashian and why would I want to keep up with one?

    The Kardashians were the bad guys on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. In one episode, the evil Khloe Kardashian put a spell on the ball playing shapeshifter Odom, using skills taught by the blank faced BruceJenneroid.

    Also, too, according to Glen Beck, Andy Williams, Bruce Jenner and Jon Voight comprise the white culture that Obama supposedly hates.

  22. 22.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Ash Can: 6’4″ doesn’t seem very tall to giants like me and you but the average height of males in the US is only ~5’9″

  23. 23.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Ash Can:

    Nah, they were coupling a Stealth Fighter jet with a hijacked airliner by terrorists with nerve gas on board when the coupling broke loose and he selflessly sacrificed himself so his men could get on the airliner. It was a all very touching.

  25. 25.

    Brachiator

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Where when Segal was told his character would die early in the movie, he threw a huge hissy fit that he couldn’t die in a movie, never had, and was too big a name for that. Well, sure enough, he died in the first half hour.

    Urban legend. The character played by Segal was always meant to die early. Part of the whole point of the film is to build suspense on the idea that everything ultimately hinges on the talents of a brainy civilian, played by Kurt Russell, as opposed to the purely military guys.

    Segal did pitch a fit over how his character was supposed to die, but the urban legend over-simplified the issue. Per IMDB

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116253/trivia

    Steven Seagal refused to shoot this scene for fear his fans would not like it. Director Stuart Baird insisted he must do it as scripted, though Seagal held up filming for a few days and argued that the scene was not realistic. Finally after threat of contractual breach, Seagal agreed to return to filming and a new death scene was scripted.

    You’ve been debunked!

  26. 26.

    JK

    @skippy:

    bruce jenner was great in “can’t stop the music”

    For that act alone, Jenner deserves to be declared an enemy combatant.

  28. 28.

    Max

    I dunno, Steven Segal: Lawman is nothing but win to me.

    From the website:

    Seagal is an expert marksman who has worked with their SWAT team and has instructed Jefferson Parish officers in firearms and hand-to-hand combat. Steven Seagal Lawman will allow fans to ride shotgun with Seagal as he and his hand-selected elite team of deputies respond to crimes in progress. Then, when Seagal goes off duty, the cameras will continue following him as he pursues his many ventures, including musical performances and philanthropic efforts in Jefferson Parish and New Orleans.

    Snark aside, I did enjoy his earlier films. Hard to Kill especially.

  29. 29.

    Roger Moore

    Then again, that same page had a link to a story about Barack Obama ranking 15th out of 172 on the “Hottest Heads of State”* ranking. Not exactly the world’s most serious political web site they’ve got going there.

    *It really should be “Hottest Heads of State [sic]”, since most but not all of the people in their rankings seem to be heads of government, not heads of state.

  30. 30.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Brachiator:

    Urban legend. The character played by Segal was always meant to die early

    I didn’t say his character wasn’t always supposed to die early. Strawman. And the tale about Segal being upset his character was supposed to die early on, came directly from Leguizamo in an interview I watched with my own eyes. Now maybe Leguizamo was exagerating, or even lying, but it came from an eye witness account, not urban legend.

  31. 31.

    Brachiator

    @JK:

    The Kardasians were great villians. Let’s not forget the Borg also.

    In the DS9 universe, the Big Bad was the Dominion, which was kinda cool because this force ultimately was revealed to be the power behind a hierarchy of seriously powerful villains. In a fair fight, the Dominion might be able to kick Borg ass.

    Do you have any rooting interest concerning the World Series?

    Not a huge sports fan, but since I live in Southern California, the baby Jesus wants a Freeway Series between the Dodgers and the Angels.

  34. 34.

    Brachiator

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    And the tale about Segal being upset his character was supposed to die early on, came directly from Leguizamo in an interview I watched with my own eyes.

    The IMDB reference directly contradicts Leguizamo. And I provided the link because it mentions a couple of other dubious claims that Leguizamo made about the production in his autobiography. It’s unlikely that Segal didn’t read the script beforehand, and even more unlikely that he would sign on to do the film and then gripe about his character dying, especially since he wasn’t the star of the film.

    It’s easier to sell the story that Segal didn’t want his character to die than it is to sell the story that Segal didn’t like the way his character died. It’s a better story even though it isn’t true.

  35. 35.

    General Winfield Stuck

    Following on Dougj’s post yesterday about Franco’s fascist Spain, this is a sweet movie that I’m sure many here have seen. It is part fantasy set in Fascist Spain in 1944/ Just a wonderful flick in Netflix Instant view.

    Pans Labyrinth

  38. 38.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Brachiator:

    It’s easier to sell the story that Segal didn’t want his character to die than it is to sell the story that Segal didn’t like the way his character died. It’s a better story even though it isn’t true

    Whatever, the point I was Segal’s hissy fit over dieing, whether or not it was how or if doesn’t really matter all that much in the end, now does it?

  41. 41.

    Martin

    @Brachiator:

    Fuck yeah, baby Jesus wants that. And the reason he wants that is because it means the Yankees will lose to the Angels.

    Fuck the Yankees.

    And I don’t remember a playoffs with so many bad 9th innings for so many teams.

  43. 43.

    Brachiator

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Whatever, the point I was Segal’s hissy fit over dieing, whether or not it was how or if doesn’t really matter all that much in the end, now does it?

    Yeah, it kinda does.

    You guys aren’t very hip trekies. It’s spelled Cardassians with a C.

    Well, the preferred nerd term is Trekkers.

    And did you really miss the point of the joke?

  44. 44.

    General Winfield Stuck

    There is a cool story about the making of “Executive Decision” a movie made back in the 90’s I think.

    And besides, I referenced it as a story not something as certain fact. And a story from one of the actors present.

  46. 46.

    CaseyL

    @Keith G: I’m with Keith. That person does not look male.

    Sad to see another icon from my youth go the wingnut way, but I don’t remember that Jenner was ever liberal. Or that I ever cared, one way or t’other.

  47. 47.

    General Winfield Stuck

    Yeah, it kinda does.

    Only in your pedantic mind.

    And the joke has nothing to do with the spelling. Geesh, your a prissy fucker.

  51. 51.

    El Cid

    What was Jenner’s reaction to the recently awarded “Nobel” prizes in economics? Does Bruce Jenner think that this is an implicit recognition of the continuing value of institutional economics? And what does Bruce think about the sharing of the physics prize in the development of the field of fiber optics?

  54. 54.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @JK:

    Here are 2 numbers you can try
    1-800-FUCK-FOXNEWS
    1-800-YANKS-SUCK

    LOL, I should have known.

  55. 55.

    Nellcote

    in other Native American news…

    WASHINGTON (CNN) — President Barack Obama will host a Tribal Nations Conference discussing issues of importance to Native Americans on November 5, the White House announced Monday.

    Representatives from each the country’s 564 federally recognized tribes will be invited to participate, according to the administration.

  56. 56.

    Brachiator

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    And the joke has nothing to do with the spelling. Geesh, your a prissy fucker.

    Let’s review:

    The Kardashians were the bad guys on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. In one episode, the evil Khloe Kardashian put a spell on the ball playing shapeshifter Odom, using skills taught by the blank faced BruceJenneroid.

    Khloe Kardashian, one of the infamous Kardashian sisters of reality TV fame and children of Bruce Jenner’s wife Kris, married Laker basketball star Lamar Odom after a suspiciously short courtship, like 3 days or something. Their wedding is to be featured on the craptacular reality show, “Keeping Up with the Kardashians.” There is even a joke running around LA that Khloe either hypnotized Odom with the massive Kardashian booty or they are in a sham marriage as a ratings stunt.

    The nemesis of the Cardassians on DS9 is the shapeshifter Odo.

    Dude, it’s ALL about the spelling. Aaron and Tori Spelling, even.

    I plead guilty to punmanship in an attempt to keep the thread light.

    What’s your excuse?

  59. 59.

    Dave

    Politico is first against the wall. Hell, they can be the only ones against the wall for all I care.

  60. 60.

    General Winfield Stuck

    What’s your excuse?

    I don’t have one and don’t need one really.

    Keeping the thread light.

    You take something I refer to as a story and do a full on investigation to debunk it and learn there are other versions of the story, and you think where I heard it from was from urban legend, or made up, when it came directly from one of the actors on the set.

    You totally miss the point that I was making that Segal is a prissy fucker, kind of like you. And make a federal case out of something that didn’t really call for a federal case.

    I simply point out that Cardassian is spelled with a C, which actually was lightening the banter. That about covers my side of what happened here. What’s your excuse?

    Lightening the thread you were? Are you insane?

  61. 61.

    Brachiator

    @JK:

    Which do you prefer? Star Trek: The Original Series or Star Trek: The Next Generation?

    Enjoyed them both for different reasons. The best Next Generation episodes (e.g., “Darmok”) easily matched the original.

    On the other hand, Enterprise sucked eggs. Hard.

  62. 62.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Brachiator:

    And did you really miss the point of the joke?

    And as a final note, since a year or so ago in one of our debates on Afghanistan, you made the claim that the Taliban were actually just very religious folks who only wanted a more pastoral way of life for the Afganis. Since then, I haven’t read anything you’ve written. So yes, I did miss the point of the joke, cause I didn’t read it. That a good enough excuse?

  63. 63.

    tc125231

    @General Winfield Stuck: No, it’s because it is believed that Mayan society ended because too many people simply opted out of it as not worth it, and went back to the jungle.

    Frankly, I don’t see why the average young person should have any other opinion. Working all their lives to support a bunch of feckless Baby Boomers.

  64. 64.

    Brachiator

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    And as a final note, since a year or so ago in one of our debates on Afghanistan, you made the claim that the Taliban were actually just very religious folks who only wanted a more pastoral way of life for the Afganis.

    You’re confusing me with someone else. Or you misinterpreted what I wrote.

    So yes, I did miss the point of the joke, cause I didn’t read it.

    Which kinda makes you the prissy fucker, then, doesn’t it?

  65. 65.

    Blue Raven

    @Brachiator: I laughed. I’m sadly aware of both Trek and the Kardashians.

    And IMO, NextGen and DS9 were both solid, though I fell away from the latter when Babylon 5 got really good.

    Also IMO, the Kardashian women are pretty damn cute. I don’t want to keep up with them, but I’d watch them walk for a while.

  66. 66.

    Ruckus

    I must have stayed up too late. I can’t tell if the subject of this post (how botox and lack of or too much plastic surgery makes aging “celbs” look fucking weird) or the mini trekie convention is what is making me laugh my ass off.
    Anyway….
    @Martin: FTW

  67. 67.

    jl

    Don’t have time to read all the comments. Only thing I have to say is that I think this is a good direction for Poltico to go in and I hope they keep it up.

    What does the panpipe guy (Zamphir? Zephyr?) have to say. I want to see that next. More of this, please from Politico. How about the Maytag man, is he still around? That would make a nice piece too.

    I saw a cowboy comedian juggler who also did rope tricks and wasa one man band up in some Sierra Gold Country county fair last year. I think he did a rope trick while he was playing his one man band. That was cool. I think they should featture him and ask what he things.

    Say what, I will send them some ideas of how to fill their space. This will be fun.

    On to more interesting front, did anyone ever figure out what that cat picture was on the open thread? A crippled cat? Was that two cats? Or a very limber cat relaxing? I hope it was one of the last two. Seriously, what was that?

  68. 68.

    cat48

    Did you see there too that Obama is 15th in hottest head of states list? Politico has a photo of the Pres swimming in Hawaii below caption. I doubt he would care for that as he didn’t like a similar picture published in People. heh

  69. 69.

    Brachiator

    @Blue Raven:

    And IMO, NextGen and DS9 were both solid, though I fell away from the latter when Babylon 5 got really good

    Ah, yes. Alas, Babylon. A great show. When I was learning my way around the InterTubes, the creator and primary writer of the show, JM Straczynski, would regularly appear on Compuserve discussion threads, very generous with his time, and patient with the fandom and with people interested in wanting to learn about writing for television.

    Met him once. He wasn’t botoxed.

    Never met a Kardashian, though.

  70. 70.

    Common Sense

    IMDB informs me that this genius turned down the lead role in Superman. He did, however, accept a role in Can’t Stop the Music — a “pseudo-biography of disco’s Village People which bears only a vague resemblance to the actual story of the group’s formation.” The movie won the inaugural Golden Raspberry.

    He rejected Superman for the Village People? Forgive me for doubting his judgement.

  72. 72.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    Who’s the chick and why did they make a wax statue of her? Good job on the yellowed smokers teeth and glassy eyed stare, but that ear looks like a wrinkled up piece of thin-sliced ham.

    I’d ask for my money back if I were her.

  73. 73.

    Little Dreamer

    @Ash Can:

    Then again, is Politico really a serious news source?

    Not for me it isn’t, I pay no attention to anything they say.

  74. 74.

    Little Dreamer

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    No shit, really? We never would have known! LMAO – you do realize half the shit posted on this blog is jokes and snark?

    (I was almost going to do the Star Trek answer thing myself, but I see someone else beat me to it).

  75. 75.

    Little Dreamer

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Lightening the thread you were? Are you insane?

    Apparently your brain got stuck Stuck, Brachiator was lightening the thread, and your answer was a wet blanket left outside to mold.

  76. 76.

    El Cid

    A lot of you people take the Cardassian threat much more lightly than the true danger it represents.

  78. 78.

    gocart mozart

    I think that Bruce Jenner, being a lesbian, is mainly upset at Obama’s failure to repeal DADT.

  79. 79.

    Gus

    “former Olympian and “Keeping Up with the Kardashians” reality star Bruce Jenner ” They forgot to add “plastic surgery victim.”

  81. 81.

    Chinn Romney

    That’s “ripping” Obama? Please. The old dude in the gas station is correct, WTF *has* Obama done? He wears a nice suit and talks real nice. Big deal. And I’m one of those bleeding heart liberals from the People’s Republic of Cambridge!

  84. 84.

    Egilsson

    I throw the penalty flag at Brachiator, and give the yardage to General Winfield Stuck. FIRST DOWN!

    It is perfectly reasonable to rely on an eyewitness interview, and Brachiator was talking like he was a tight-ass Sherlock Holmes on an over-nuanced point.

  85. 85.

    Redshirt

    It should be noted there is great debate at the Academy about who would win in a fight: Dominion or Borg. Several schools of thought have formed on both sides of this important issue, and I assure you, the matter is not close to being settled.

  87. 87.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Little Dreamer:

    Always good to get your input rome. Now piss off and mind your own business and be your smarmy self.

    @Brachiator:

    You’re confusing me with someone else. Or you misinterpreted what I wrote.

    Nope, it were you and me chatting. Now go research some more nonsense and make a stink out of nothing. You were wrong about me repeating an urban legend, prissy fucker.

  88. 88.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @tc125231:

    I was joking fuckface. You folks want to get your licks in, here I be with reliable tube service.

    @Little Dreamer:

    And I was joking about being hip trekkies comment on spelling, idiot.

  91. 91.

    Brachiator

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    RE: You’re confusing me with someone else. Or you misinterpreted what I wrote.

    Nope, it were you and me chatting.

    Then you misinterpreted me. I’ve consistently characterized the Taleban as the religious equivalent of the Cambodia Khmer Rouge. Most recently, here

    https://balloon-juice.com/?p=28056#comment-1396109

    Now go research some more nonsense and make a stink out of nothing. You were wrong about me repeating an urban legend, prissy fucker.

    You really need to learn to let go.

    You didn’t repeat an urban legend. You repeated John Leguizamo’s tall tale. You weren’t the only person I’ve heard repeat the story.

    I’m your huckleberry, and you are definitely no daisy at all.

  93. 93.

    Wile E. Quixote

    @JK

    @skippy:

    bruce jenner was great in “can’t stop the music”

    For that act alone, Jenner deserves to be declared an enemy combatant.

    Hey now, don’t you go hatin on the Village People lest I fuck you up. Can’t Stop the Music is awesome. It’s the movie Edward D. Wood Jr. would have made if he’d had lots of money, the Village People, Valerie Perrine and a young, pre-Police Academy, Steve Gutenberg and Bruce Jenner. Oh, and also if he hadn’t been dead for a couple of years.

  94. 94.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Brachiator:

    You didn’t repeat an urban legend. You repeated John Leguizamo’s tall tale.

    You’ve been debunked!

    No siree, you need to quit half ass conceited nonsense.
    I believe Leguizamo/ Imbd doesn’t have a lock on what happened. They accept statements from studio pr people as to what happened. And your analysis on the movie script is equally flawed. If Segal would not have accepted the script because it called for him to die, he would have also rejected it he was to die in a way that didn”t suit him. It is perfectly plausible that he accepted the role and script with hopes he could convince the director to not die at all. And then settled back after holding up filming for at least dieing in a way that he wanted and thought his fans would be pleased. Who the fuck does that but a prima dona which was the point of my original comment. Leguizamo was there on the ground and I always trust those accounts more than suits who have an agenda to create an image and not ruffle any more actor feathers than necessary.

    And the remark about the Taliban is one of the few things I have ever heard on the internet that stuck to my neural net like glue. One of the strangest in my experience.

    You opened the door on this little flame war motherfucker, and remember that researching nuance to hammer someone runs both ways. Cheers.

  95. 95.

    General Winfield Stuck

    I’m your huckleberry, and you are definitely no daisy at all.

    and you can shove this little gem so far up your ass, the corn cob that was there will pop out your nose.

  96. 96.

    Redshirt

    I mean, really: Like the Borg won’t figure out how to assimilate every aspect of the Dominion? You think they haven’t dealt with SHAPE-SHIFTERS before? Please!

    The J’hem Hadar are useless, Vorta tricks won’t work, and thus the only plausible weapon the Dominion would have against the Borg are the Founders themselves.

  97. 97.

    Elie

    It IS interesting the ill will that has bubbled to the surface from so many sources including this old has been, Bruce Jenner. Why would culling this cob webbed personality’s opinion be so important to put out the energy?

    The envy – resentment and begrudgement — the ill will turned onto Obama for an award he had nothing to do with giving to himself, but others selected to honor him and US MORANS…that we would not take any of the pleasure and honor of it for our country, to make us look better/feel better…says so much about us.
    That so much of the left AND right are filled with envy and resentment — for an award for peace — that so many were cackling with glee that his city, Chicago, and thefore the United States, had LOST a bid for the Olympics…that he had the courage to campaign for. Such a horror!

    Who are we? Does anyone know anymore? If we are unwilling to take on the glow from the honor of this award, we should nonetheless be careful about what our lack of grace and class also reveal in our grudging and petty reaction.

    I am still rubbing my eyes in disbelief at this horrible peek into the soul of the American mainstream public and media — right and left. What I have seen sickens me and all I can do is hope that the knowledge and awareness of how we have disgraced ourselves eventually reaches our little shrunken souls. That a group in the international community wanted to highlight the hope for peace and encourage our new leader for the courage to continue to pursue his efforts — should warm our hearts with great hope and encourage our own efforts to build forward to fix our country. We should be hanging our heads in embarrassment and shame at what this whole process showed about what type of people we seem to be right now.

  100. 100.

    Little Dreamer

    Brachiator, I think Stuck’s been drinking. Probably not worth arguing him anymore. He’s way out of it.

  103. 103.

    Little Dreamer

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    I was in Tombstone just four days ago. Interesting place. I think it probably wouldn’t suit you. I only went through it a couple of times on a trip we took to Bisbee. Fun little town that was. I wanted to spend more time there but alas, we were on our way elsewhere.

  108. 108.

    General Winfield Stuck

    @Little Dreamer:

    Figures you’d take that as a compliment.

    I figured it just meant I wouldn’t be taking any shit from the likes of you, or close enough there of.

  110. 110.

    Brachiator

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    And the remark about the Taliban is one of the few things I have ever heard on the internet that stuck to my neural net like glue. One of the strangest in my experience.

    You read it wrong. And since, by your own admission, you’ve never read anything else I wrote about the Taliban, you got stuck in your own little reverie.

    You opened the door on this little flame war motherfucker, and remember that researching nuance to hammer someone runs both ways. Cheers.

    It’s not much of a flame war. You seem to delight in self-immolation.

  112. 112.

    Brachiator

    @Redshirt:

    I mean, really: Like the Borg won’t figure out how to assimilate every aspect of the Dominion? You think they haven’t dealt with SHAPE-SHIFTERS before? Please!

    OK, draw me into this Sci Fi nerd-fest!

    I see your point about the Borg. But the J’hem Hadar and the Vorta have been genetically engineered to worship and to protect the Founders. Would any of this pre-programming survive assimilation?

    Also, But the Borg are kind of a collective, a hive mind motivated by a single directive. But the Founders are also a kind of collective, not simply a group of individuals.

    I’ll stop here. The question, Borg v Dominion, might be fun for an enterprising screenwriter or novelist to tackle.

    There’s also room for a new species, the G Winfield Stuck: Resistance is Stubborn!

  113. 113.

    Little Dreamer

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    That would be funny if I spent a lot of time drinking. I don’t. It’s that whole alcoholic mother who died of cirrhosis of the liver thing, I don’t follow in her footsteps. Ask TZ, he’ll tell you, I don’t drink regularly or much.

    You can go ahead and try to make it look like my views are foolish, I care not. I’m not intimidated by you at all. Carry on and go ahead and have your fun at my expense, I really could care less.

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    General Winfield Stuck

    @Brachiator:

    Here it is dude. If I make a clear substantial mistake on something I post here that is not right, and someone brings clear evidence as such, I will, and have a number times admitted my error and took my medicine. But if you find a nit and hold it up as fail without regard to the context and intent, I will defend myself. And fiercely if need be.

    The truth is, the way you blog has long been a source of mild annoyance to me, with the tiered and nested responses to the remarks of others. Sometimes it has the feel of being lectured down to, and too often over trivial errors or nuance.

    You are obviously a learned person and make excellent points, and yes I do still read what you write, especially when I’m one of the lucky ones to be graded in your comments.

    We are all open to be nit picked by one another with over nuanced criticisms if we choose, but what a mess that would be, eh?

    I offered a way early on to resolve this silliness by restating the point it was a hissy fit over which scenario didn’t really matter all that much with the context and intent of my content, but you rejected it/

    As for the Taliban remark, I regret bringing it into the thread. It is what I remember though, but am willing say sometimes memory plays tricks and this could be one of those times.

    I still believe Leguizamo however.

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    General Winfield Stuck

    @Little Dreamer:

    You’re the one who jumped into this. But I have no intention of bothering you whatsoever, and have not, until you interjected yourself into this argument. I will be pleased as punch just to keep ignoring you like before.

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    Little Dreamer

    I’ll stop here. The question, Borg v Dominion, might be fun for an enterprising screenwriter or novelist to tackle.

    Borg are too docile. Every time they are shown they are quiet, working on electronics and ship gadgetry, going about business, hardly ever engaging anyone in warfare of any sort. I suggest Goa’uld instead.

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    General Winfield Stuck

    I don’t. It’s that whole alcoholic mother who died of cirrhosis of the liver thing, I don’t follow in her footsteps.

    Both my grandfathers died of cirrhosis, and the rest of my family is a horrow show of death and destruction from substance abuse, including my mother who committed suicide 20 years ago, in part from addiction. There is no darkness I have not seen close up and personal from addictive disease.

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    Little Dreamer

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Aww, am I not allowed to play on the same threads as you? Will it huwt youw widdle feewings? Awww, I’m sow sow sowwy!

    You’re the one who stuck your foot in your mouth trying to indicate I have a drinking problem. I don’t, I never have. That is not to say I don’t have any addictions, I smoke (down to about five cigarettes a day) and I like to play Keno a bit, but, drinking is NOT one of them.

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    General Winfield Stuck

    @Little Dreamer:

    Geeze, I give up, You’re the one who brought up drunkeness.

    @Little Dreamer:

    Brachiator, I think Stuck’s been drinking. Probably not worth arguing him anymore. He’s way out of it.

    You really are a whackjob.

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    Little Dreamer

    @General Winfield Stuck:

    Well, apparently you still stick to your original story, in which your correction of spelling was the witty part of the joke. It wasn’t. So, okay, maybe you’re not drinking, you’re just, I don’t know, confused?

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