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You are here: Home / Politics / Domestic Politics / Status quo

Status quo

by DougJ|  October 26, 20099:50 am| 92 Comments

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I can never decide if it’s a good thing that the Politico spends so much time profiling unelected people with power in Washington DC. But this piece is pure Chamber of Commerce propaganda:

If the combination of Obama policies and attacks on the Chamber turns business against Democrats, it could have a big effect on elections. Many businesses, spooked by the crackdown on soft money, have been reluctant to fund groups outside of the Chamber in recent elections. If they are motivated, Republicans will have a much better chance at reclaiming the money edge that they once enjoyed but have let slip away in recent years.

Several CEOs have told POLITICO in recent weeks they have gone from genuinely uncertain about Obama’s economic views to authentically concerned. And the outcome of climate change, health care and regulation could turn much of business against the president’s goals.

Having spent a lot of time (and possibly too many blog posts) on elite media’s defense of Fox News, I think I get it now: Fox, the Chamber, the think tanks, and all the assholes, elected and unelected, who have been running this country into the ground for however many years, are part of the status quo. And the status quo is good to media elites. They’ll defend it every step of the way.

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  1. 1.

    heretic

    October 26, 2009 at 9:55 am

    What has changed in the last twenty or so years, with the rise of millionaire ‘journalists’ is that the media now sees themselves as peers of the ruling class. With that is mind, this all makes perfect sense.

  2. 2.

    asiangrrlMN

    October 26, 2009 at 9:57 am

    Yeah, that sums it up nicely, DougJ. So, the question becomes, how do we make the media elite uncomfortable enough that they want to change the status quo?

  3. 3.

    PeakVT

    October 26, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Concern CEOs are concerned.

    Wevs.

  4. 4.

    Elthy-san

    October 26, 2009 at 10:04 am

    At the risk of sounding like an over-educated prat, the concept you’re looking for is Antonio Gramsci’s hegemony.

    Basically any Political Economy text that doesn’t fully subscribe to the Market Model of Media will explain at much greater detail.

  5. 5.

    CalD

    October 26, 2009 at 10:04 am

    Thanks again for reading the Politico (so I don’t have to).

  6. 6.

    Bob (Not B.o.B.)

    October 26, 2009 at 10:04 am

    “If the combination of Obama policies and attacks on the Chamber turns business against Democrats, it could have a big effect on elections. “

    This is where the Chamber comes across as elitist jerks. The Chamber does NOT speak for all businesses, even all its members. If more businesses, especially smaller ones, knew what positions they advocated, the membership would fall dramatically.

    The Michigan Chamber’s political arm isn’t even a business organization any longer. It is an anti-government arm of the Republican party.

    As far as the media goes, we need to remember these are huge business conglomerates. Can we really expect a defense contractor (GE) who owns NBC to really broadcast fair news coverage?

  7. 7.

    dr. bloor

    October 26, 2009 at 10:05 am

    “Several CEOs” = the new “Some say…”

    I also love how MoveOn suddenly has the power to shove around wimps like Apple and PG&E.

    Wankfest.

  8. 8.

    MikeJ

    October 26, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Aren’t businesses all over quitting the chamber in droves this year?

  9. 9.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    October 26, 2009 at 10:06 am

    They’ll defend it every step of the way.

    They’ve got all of the Republicans and a good portion of the Democrats with them so it shouldn’t be much of a surprise.

  10. 10.

    Zifnab

    October 26, 2009 at 10:07 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Cancel your newspaper subscription, unsubscribe from cable, and generally stop feeding the beast.

    I don’t think they’ll ever get so uncomfortable that they embrace change, but they will get uncomfortable enough that they stop existing.

  11. 11.

    asiangrrlMN

    October 26, 2009 at 10:09 am

    @Zifnab: Well, I don’t have a newspaper subscription, and I don’t have cable, so I guess I will have to get more creative.

  12. 12.

    Zifnab

    October 26, 2009 at 10:09 am

    @MikeJ: There were a handful of defections, notable because they left or gave up positions in protest over Global Warming. But it’s not exactly an exodus.

  13. 13.

    Zifnab

    October 26, 2009 at 10:10 am

    @asiangrrlMN: So find where Wolf Blitzer lives, fill a brown paper bag with dog poop, light it on fire, drop it on his doorstep, and run. That’s what I do.

  14. 14.

    geg6

    October 26, 2009 at 10:11 am

    @MikeJ:

    Yes. Which is probably a large part of this pushback that Politico is pimping.

    Rich white men getting nervous. Me likey.

  15. 15.

    asiangrrlMN

    October 26, 2009 at 10:14 am

    @Zifnab: Oooh! That sounds like fun. Then, Cokie Roberts. Then, Peggy Noonan, followed by David Brooks. Or do I mean David Broder? Both!

  16. 16.

    Zifnab

    October 26, 2009 at 10:17 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Peggy Noonan is getting her car keyed. David Brooks will be getting a very unexpected wet willy. With Broder, I’m just going to swap all the street signs in front of his house and hope he never makes it to the office again.

  17. 17.

    MikeJ

    October 26, 2009 at 10:19 am

    But it’s not exactly an exodus.

    But the Chamber went from 3 million members (they claimed) to 300,000 (the confirmed number). They lost nine out of ten members!

  18. 18.

    smiley

    October 26, 2009 at 10:19 am

    […] are part of the status quo. […] They’ll defend it every step of the way.

    Defense of the status quo is the definition of conservative.

  19. 19.

    asiangrrlMN

    October 26, 2009 at 10:20 am

    @Zifnab: I really like the way you think. May I subscribe to your newsletter?

  20. 20.

    ksmiami

    October 26, 2009 at 10:24 am

    The same CEOs who have been running America into the ground, managing businesses badly and laying good workers off… I am VERY concerned about their opinions, sure, cry me a river.

  21. 21.

    Zifnab

    October 26, 2009 at 10:24 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Sure you can, but it’s only far to warn you I’m actually just Bill Kristol in a John Stewart mask.

  22. 22.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 26, 2009 at 10:25 am

    @Zifnab:

    … wedgies, wet willies, or even the dreaded rear-admiral!”

    [/Milhouse van Houten]

  23. 23.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    October 26, 2009 at 10:27 am

    @Zifnab:

    David Brooks will be getting a very unexpected wet willy.

    Just be sure to keep your hands above the waist, OK? No under the table dinner party hanky-panky.

  24. 24.

    RememberNovember

    October 26, 2009 at 10:27 am

    So Corporate policy trumps the human condition. Nice. Welcome to Walmartistan.

  25. 25.

    asiangrrlMN

    October 26, 2009 at 10:28 am

    @Zifnab: Ooooh, you just reminded me of the one I dislike the most–Always Wrong Kristol and that smarmy smirk of his.

  26. 26.

    Tom G

    October 26, 2009 at 10:31 am

    This is a point that Glenn Greenwald has been making for awhile also. It’s one of the reasons I value his reporting and opinion.

  27. 27.

    fungus amungus

    October 26, 2009 at 10:33 am

    “If the combination of Obama policies and attacks on the Chamber turns business against Democrats….”

    This is an “if”?

  28. 28.

    ItAintEazy

    October 26, 2009 at 10:34 am

    Well, I’m glad we re-establish the fact that you don’t anger those that buy ink by the barrel. Except this time pissing off those assclowns is just letting them off way, way too easily.

  29. 29.

    GregB

    October 26, 2009 at 10:34 am

    Yeah, the Chamber has been a big supporter of Democrats and left wingers all along, right?

    What dreck.

    Mike Allen’s lips must be forever tired.

    -G

  30. 30.

    Violet

    October 26, 2009 at 10:37 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    how do we make the media elite uncomfortable enough that they want to change the status quo?

    It’ll happen. It’s already happening. Mass newspaper layoffs. Media consolidations. OMG Teh Blogosphere (Ethics panel! Ethics panel!) The landscape is shifting, but the old, rich dinosaurs don’t want to see it.

    The rich folks funding the media elite spokesmouths don’t like it at all, but they can’t stop it. It’s just not happening fast enough, that’s all.

  31. 31.

    linda

    October 26, 2009 at 10:38 am

    vandehei is a complete gop operative; little mikey allen just wants to be employed.

  32. 32.

    fungus amungus

    October 26, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Wait, please to ignore previous comment. Wrong argument. My bad.

  33. 33.

    smedley

    October 26, 2009 at 10:38 am

    Pointing and laughing is probably not sufficient. Podesta had a seat at the table yesterday and tried it only once with Laura Ingraham. He should have been more forceful in his laughing and pointing. But, then, he may not have been invited back.

  34. 34.

    Ash Can

    October 26, 2009 at 10:39 am

    Our neighborhood has a chamber of commerce, and even on this micro level they’re nothing more than an ineffective clique. Are there any chambers of commerce anywhere, on any level, that actually do any fucking good at all for the businesses they supposedly serve?

  35. 35.

    Ed Drone

    October 26, 2009 at 10:43 am

    F*ck the “status quo!” We need a “status whoa!”

    Or, to make it a suitable family-friendly bumper-sticker,

    “Status whoa, not status quo.”

    If the big media and big business are not paying attention, slap some of these on their cars and delivery trucks and news-stands. Make them wonder, and make the public aware that they are being duped.

    Ths slogan is even vague enough that tea-party twits can use it, thinking the “whoa” part applies to their “vision.” We can correct them if people start talking it up. But till it’s a subject of conversation in more than liberal blogs, we’ll get nowhere.

    Ed

  36. 36.

    lou

    October 26, 2009 at 10:45 am

    The perpetual D.C. muddle is good for bidness and incumbents.

  37. 37.

    SGEW

    October 26, 2009 at 10:50 am

    “Chamber of Commerce Criticizes Obama Team: Lobbyist Accuses White House of ‘Name-Calling'”

    The chief lobbyist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce alleged Sunday that there is a White House campaign of “invectives” and “name-calling” against his organization, and said the business group is eager to ignore the heated rhetoric.
    …
    Speaking on “Fox News Sunday,” longtime Chamber lobbyist Bruce Josten said the group’s relationship with the White House began to sour after differences of opinion developed about President Obama’s health-care and economic agendas.

    Someone’s feelings have been hurt.

  38. 38.

    Peter J

    October 26, 2009 at 10:52 am

    PRESIDENT OBAMA TIES GEORGE W. BUSH ON GOLF

    If Politico was an actual newspaper, my cat would claw my eyes out if I put it in her litter box…

    Not sure how they could forget to add that Bush stopped playing golf out of the respect for the soldiers killed in Iraq, and that this obviously means that Obama has no respect for the troops. But I bet there will be an update later.
    (Bush decision had nothing to do with knee problems…)

    (Bush ended up spending 487 days at Camp David, and 490 at his ranch…)

  39. 39.

    shoutingattherain

    October 26, 2009 at 10:53 am

    @SGEW:

    The chief lobbyist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce alleged Sunday that there is a White House campaign of “invectives” and “name-calling” against his organization

    ZOMG! Can hair pulling be far behind?

  40. 40.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    October 26, 2009 at 10:56 am

    BTW don’t forget to vote for Bitsy!

  41. 41.

    Ash Can

    October 26, 2009 at 11:02 am

    @Peter J:

    (Bush ended up spending 487 days at Camp David, and 490 at his ranch…)

    Why not? He wasn’t the one running the country. He was probably just getting in the way back in DC.

  42. 42.

    Bob In Pacifica

    October 26, 2009 at 11:03 am

    George Seldes’ 1943 book, FACTS AND FASCISM, had a whole chapter on the National Association of Manufacturers. These groups have always been doing this crap. Back then they could openly back fascists because fascists were good for business and all the nasty concentration camp stuff hadn’t been widely circulated. And speaking of the media and pundits, Seldes, in another chapter, reprints a New York Times headline that praised Mussolini for getting trains to run on time. Really.

    So I don’t really think all that much has changed, structurally, from back then. The press, or the mainstream media, has always carried the water for the Big Money. What I think happens is that some folks individually at some point in their lives suddenly have the lightbulb go on. Aha! Fox, ABC, CBS, MSNBC lies to me!

    Metaphorically, each one of us comes home one day to find our newspaper, or cable network, in bed with fatcats and we are forced to choose between believing them or our lying eyes. Republican deadenders are easily distracted from what is going on between the sheets. They walk into that room and look for aliens under the bed or gays in the closet. They miss the show on the main stage.

  43. 43.

    Chad N Freude

    October 26, 2009 at 11:07 am

    Several CEOs have told POLITICO in recent weeks they have gone from genuinely uncertain about Obama’s economic views to authentically concerned.

    I guess we can infer from this that they started out falsely uncertain, then became genuinely uncertain, then moved to inauthentically concerned, and have now achieved authentic concern.

    I would have been tossed off the high school paper if I had written something like that. The idiocy of the reportage hurts.

  44. 44.

    El Cid

    October 26, 2009 at 11:13 am

    Noting the blatantly clear class connections between the ownership and high directorates at our news production corporations and other prominent corporations, investment firms, and powerful economic interests is crazy, fringe, conspiracy theorist, and will totally make a lot of centrists cry. Stop it.

  45. 45.

    max

    October 26, 2009 at 11:15 am

    And the status quo is good to media elites. They’ll defend it every step of the way.

    Welcome to Enlightenment, my friend. Every policy of the last 20 years (which translates into every stupid policy of the last twenty year), regardless of the official reason for putting it in place, has three basic motivations:
    1) More money for ME! ME! ME! (Fuck Red Staters/Blue Staters/Flyover country/DFH/Rednecks/We love the Communist Chinese/etc.)
    2) My tiny little dick is actually HUGE! (We love the troops, so let’s get them killed for no reason!)
    3) Wait. You mean Osama bin Laden is trying to KILL ME??? (If those planes had been flown into buildings in Omaha, no one would have given a shit.)

    Lastly, bipartisanship translates to ‘Let’s get a small group together to fuck the rest of the country hard.’

    max
    [‘All else is ever-twisting rationalization.’]

  46. 46.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    October 26, 2009 at 11:18 am

    And the status quo is good to media elites. They’ll defend it every step of the way.

    And thus endeth today’s episode of “The Blinding Flash of the Obvious.”

    :)

  47. 47.

    woody

    October 26, 2009 at 11:23 am

    And the status quo is good to media elites. They’ll defend it every step of the way.

    In the Corporate State, corporate media are the State Media.

  48. 48.

    Violet

    October 26, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Gosh dog it, that Pom is really running away with the contest. All hands on deck.

    Vote for Little Bitsy

    !

  49. 49.

    woody

    October 26, 2009 at 11:29 am

    “Metaphorically, each one of us comes home one day to find our newspaper, or cable network, in bed with fatcats and we are forced to choose between believing them or our lying eyes.”

    The genius of the modern propaganda state is in its ability to co-opt the ‘middle-class’ who have so much of their own ideas of ‘success’ embedded in the propagandas of the State…(cf. Jacques Ellul, Propagandas:

    Jacques Ellul’s view of propaganda and his approach to the study of propaganda are new. The principal difference between his thought edifice and most other literature on propaganda is that Ellul regards propaganda as a sociological phenomenon rather than as something made by certain people for certain purposes. Propaganda exists and thrives; it is the Siamese twin of our technological society. Only in the technological society can there be anything of the type and order of magniture of modern propaganda, which is with us forever; and only with the all-pervading effects that flow from propagada can technological society hold itself together.
    Most people are easy prey for propaganda, Ellul says, because of their firm but entirely erroneous conviction that it is composed only of lies and “tall stories” and that, conversely, what is true cannot be propaganda. But modern propaganda has long disdained the ridiculous lies of past and outmoded forms of propaganda. it operates instead with many different kinds of truth — half truth, limited truth, truth out of context. Even Goebbels always insisted that the Wehrmacht communiques be as accurate as possible.
    A second basic misconception that makes people vulnerable to propaganda is the notion that it serves only to change opinions. That is one of its aims, but a limited, subordinate one. Much more importantly, it aims to intensify existing trends, to sharpen and focus them, and, above all, to lead men to action (or, when it is directed at immovable opponents, to non-action through terror or discouragement, to prevent them from interfering). Therefore Ellul distinguishes various forms of propaganda and calls his book Propagandes — that plural is one of the keys to his concept. The most trenchant distinction made by Ellul is between agitation propaganda and integration propaganda. The former leads men from mere restatement to rebellion; the latter aims at making them adjust themselves to desired patterns. The two types rely on entirely different means. Both exist all over the world. Integration propaganda is needed especially for the technological society to flourish, and its technological means — mass media among them — in turn make such integration propaganda possible.
    –Konrad Kellen, Introduction to Propaganda, 1965 )

  50. 50.

    Violet

    October 26, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Urgh. Apparently I can’t press the proper button. Vote for Little Bitsy!

  51. 51.

    kuvasz

    October 26, 2009 at 11:35 am

    if it took you this long to see the problem you are likely a part of the problem.

  52. 52.

    tc125231

    October 26, 2009 at 11:46 am

    Fox, the Chamber, the think tanks, and all the assholes, elected and unelected, who have been running this country into the ground for however many years, are part of the status quo. And the status quo is good to media elites. They’ll defend it every step of the way.

    Well, no duh.

  53. 53.

    JGabriel

    October 26, 2009 at 11:47 am

    Several CEOs have told POLITICO in recent weeks they have gone from genuinely uncertain about Obama’s economic views to authentically concerned.

    As opposed to being falsely uncertain and faux concerned?

    Jeebus. I wonder how much they pay the company that authenticates concern. Does it get outsourced to more sincere parts of the world?

    .

  54. 54.

    mistersnrub

    October 26, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Speaking of the WaPo, what is the deal with Howie Kurtz? How can a self-described “media critic” give such a pass to Fox News? He is incredulous that the channel has an agenda, and continues to unthinkingly regurgitate the trope that Fox distinguishes btw opinion and news. Why doesn’t he, you know, do his goddamn job and watch the channel to see it with his own eyes. What a putz.

  55. 55.

    Chuck

    October 26, 2009 at 11:59 am

    @Violet:

    Gosh dog it, that Pom is really running away with the contest. All hands on deck.

    I’m really sorry for the shelter, but I’m boycotting this contest. It got ugly a long time ago, and the folks running it are just stretching it out for more ad impressions.

  56. 56.

    Violet

    October 26, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    @Chuck:
    Actually they seem to have shortened it. I agree the twelve week contest was too long and all about getting clicks, etc. But it was supposed to go on until Thanksgiving. As of yesterday, Oprah decided she wanted in on it, so they’re declaring the semifinalists today or tomorrow, then they’ll be on Oprah on Wednesday where they announce the winner. That means it’s ending almost a month earlier than they had intended.

  57. 57.

    Calouste

    October 26, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    @heretic:

    Remember that bit from 1984 where the torturer/government gook goes on to Winston Smith about how Big Brother’s trials are so much better than Stalin’s because at Stalin’s show trials the defendant confessed to crimes they didn’t commit because they were told to, where as at Big Brother’s trials defendants confessed to crimes they didn’t commit because they actually believed in them?

    Something similar has happened to journalism in the US. Originally journalists had to write down what the media owners told them, but that wasn’t convincing enough. It turned out it worked far better to make the journalists actually part of the ruling class, inside the bubble, and then they would actually fervently believe what they were saying.

  58. 58.

    Chad N Freude

    October 26, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    @JGabriel: I beat ya to it, dude. See @Chad N Freude.

  59. 59.

    kay

    October 26, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    If I were a media mogul I would charge business interests for ad space, instead of giving them ads for free.
    Seems a lot cleaner and easier, and they might actually start making money.
    Was abandoning that business model smart?
    I don’t see this new “free ads!” model working, because no rational consumer is going to pay to read a Chamber press release. Maybe I’m missing something.

  60. 60.

    Ed Drone

    October 26, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    @woody
    :

    The most trenchant distinction made by Ellul is between agitation propaganda and integration propaganda. The former leads men from mere restatement to rebellion; the latter aims at making them adjust themselves to desired patterns. The two types rely on entirely different means.

    It seems to me that the Rethuglicans have trouble switching from their integration to their agitation propaganda. When Shrub was in office, they needed integration (go along to get along — nothing to see here, move on along). Now that he and his platform are revealed as trashing the country world, they need to switch to agitation-prop. Now, agit-prop was always their strong suit, but since their earlier integraprop (to coin a word) called for certain attitudes in their followers, they’re having trouble getting folks to make the mental/emotional switch.

    And that’s why their agitprop is getting so much attention — it’s out in the open more than they’d like. It’s obvious what it’s for, and people outside the some-of-the-people-all-of-the-time group azre catching on. The man behind the curtain is no longer being ignored, and attention is being paid.

    And they hate it when that happens.

    Ed

  61. 61.

    inkadu

    October 26, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    @Violet: I’m not sure the demise of Big Media is going to help our cause any. All it means is there will be less factual reporting and the people who may have been exposed to an inconvenient fact in proper context will now be standing slack-jawed in front of Villagers talking about lapel pins.

    The 24-hr networks are picking up the viewers left behind by other media, I’m afraid. The blogs are picking up folks who care about politics and have more than two brain cells to rub together — and that’s the decided minority.

  62. 62.

    Brick Oven Bill

    October 26, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Obama is George Bush, except that Obama is comfortable being photographed while golfing at the same time that men are fighting and dying on his order. The policies are essentially the same. The golf-thing was Bush’s glimmer of Virtue.

    Democrats = Status Quo

    Republicans = Status Quo

    Congressional Approval Ratings are around 20%.

    Behold the Tea Bagger. Behold Crissy.

    Another Change option would be to turn things over to the United States Marine Corps for a short, defined, period of time. Goldman Sachs could tell it to the Marines. The early Romans had a similar system.

    Perhaps there could be a combination of the two.

  63. 63.

    Midnight Marauder

    October 26, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    @Chad N Freude:

    I guess we can infer from this that they started out falsely uncertain, then became genuinely uncertain, then moved to inauthentically concerned, and have now achieved authentic concern.
    I would have been tossed off the high school paper if I had written something like that. The idiocy of the reportage hurts.

    If I didn’t know better, I’d say you just created a prototype for a first ever Concern Trolling Scale.

  64. 64.

    kay

    October 26, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    And the outcome of climate change, health care and regulation could turn much of business against the president’s goals.

    I love these shills, who spend a good part of ever day extolling the virtues of small business, and then insist that “business” in the US is some seamless entity wholly represented by the US Chamber of Commerce.

    Which isn’t even factually true for big business, as evidenced by the dissent on climate change legislation, and was never true of small business.

    So, who are they talking about? They’re talking about Chamber members, a group media inflated by a factor of ten until someone actually sat down and counted.

    If you’re going to accept a an ad from the Chamber of Commerce, at least charge them for the space.

  65. 65.

    Redhand

    October 26, 2009 at 12:40 pm

    Fox, the Chamber, the think tanks, and all the assholes, elected and unelected, who have been running this country into the ground for however many years, are part of the status quo. And the status quo is good to media elites. They’ll defend it every step of the way.

    Boy, does this sum it up, especially as regards the WaPo’s “worst in America” Opinion Section.

  66. 66.

    JGabriel

    October 26, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Brick Oven Bill:

    Another Change option would be to turn things over to the United States Marine Corps for a short, defined, period of time.

    Ya see, when Conservatives vote Republican, it’s really a compromise vote — what they really want is a military dictatorship.

    Thanks for clarifying that for us, BOB.

    .

  67. 67.

    ericblair

    October 26, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    @kay: If I were a media mogul I would charge business interests for ad space, instead of giving them ads for free.
    Seems a lot cleaner and easier, and they might actually start making money.

    I think the current problem is that the media mogul isn’t out to make money with his outlet; it’s to provide propaganda cover for the parent company’s broader interests. A lot of these rags have never turned a dime in profit, but are worthwhile in keeping our current crop of betters fat and happy.

  68. 68.

    tofubo

    October 26, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    see previous

    https://balloon-juice.com/?p=28719#comment-1416064

  69. 69.

    Brick Oven Bill

    October 26, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    The Romans strictly defined the length of time of military rule, I think it was six months. This is because they appreciated the value of representative rule, and understood the danger of a powerful executive.

    Bush used to write letters to the families of the fallen, and meet and commiserate with them. I have yet to see electronic images of Obama doing this, making me doubt that he does. Because even if he didn’t and just faked some imagery, the TV people would surely have broadcast it.

    Obama is scared of his military. This is why he opposes the Constitutional removal of Zelaya from power in Honduras, why he will not meet with General McChrystal, why he plays golf in wartime (Denial-Type II Defense Mechanism), and why he likely has his secretary send form letters to the families of the fallen.

  70. 70.

    PurpleGirl

    October 26, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Vote for Bitsy… she’s at 38?? to Commissioner James Gordon’s 48??. Vote for Bitsy.

  71. 71.

    TenguPhule

    October 26, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    There is an obvious solution to the problem of the status quo.

    Madame Guillotine.

  72. 72.

    arguingwithsignposts

    October 26, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    At least bitsy’s firmly in second at the moment. I’m glad this is going to end sooner, but that Pom does not look “cute” at all, imho.

  73. 73.

    TenguPhule

    October 26, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Bush used to write letters to the families of the fallen, and meet and commiserate with them.

    Obviously not doing the job of president left him with lots of free time.

  74. 74.

    TenguPhule

    October 26, 2009 at 1:00 pm

    This is why he opposes the Constitutional removal of Zelaya from power in Honduras

    So now in BOB-land, military coups = Constitutional.

    Why am I not surprised?

  75. 75.

    TenguPhule

    October 26, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Another Change option would be to turn things over to the United States Marine Corps for a short, defined, period of time.

    Or we could just give it all to me and the 35% of the population too stupid to live would be in large unmarked graves by New Years.

  76. 76.

    Joshua

    October 26, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    Several CEOs have told POLITICO in recent weeks they have gone from genuinely uncertain about Obama’s economic views to authentically concerned. And the outcome of climate change, health care and regulation could turn much of business against the president’s goals.

    Can I safely assume that Politico interviewed these CEOs both today and several weeks ago so they have in writing the change in mood these CEOs have experienced?

    Or are these CEOs just blowing it out their ass to make them sound more open-minded and pragmatic than they actually are?

  77. 77.

    Brian Griffin

    October 26, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Fox’s model also may be seen as the only way for the rest of the networks to head in the future. So admitting the basic facts of bias could leave them without sources in the future.

    Currently, if you want to learn anything about policy you have to go to partisan news sources. (I’m not saying that Fox tells anyone about policy.) So we have two sets of separate “facts” for every debate.

    Traditionally, the networks and the papers tried to keep the debaters honest and perhaps even actually covered policy, but now they only report on who is perceived to be winning the debate. As a result, they’ve completely marginalized themselves: they actually have no remaining function beyond providing a stock ticker with good hair.

    Unless the networks can return to their traditional role, which seems impossibly difficult once they’ve abandoned it (as trust would take decades to regain), their only choice (which is much less expensive, btw) to keep ad dollars flowing will be to serve as cheerleaders for a team, a la Fox.

  78. 78.

    Stoic

    October 26, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Victor Laszlo: Thanks. I appreciate it. Welcome back to the fight. This time I *know* our side will win.

  79. 79.

    Brian Griffin

    October 26, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    by the way, the stock market under democrats has outperformed the stock market under republicans, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, for the past 100 years.

    CEO pay, on the other hand, has tended to rise a lot faster under republicans.

    just sayin’…

  80. 80.

    flounder

    October 26, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    Did you catch the part where they insinuate that a bunch of energy companies like PG&E left the Chamber because they were pressured by “Move-on”?
    F-ing irresponsible.

  81. 81.

    Calouste

    October 26, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    And in completely unrelated news, newspaper circulation is down 10.6% compared to the same period last year.

  82. 82.

    slippy

    October 26, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    @Chad N Freude: This reminds me of how my girlfriend and I joke that we “really” love each other, and all those other times we were bullshitting.

    The Establishment has just done one thing for me, and they’ve done it very effectively: they’ve reminded me that Obama is not one of them, and that if he wants it and they don’t, it’s probably good for me and not them.

    So, I hereby take a shit in the Chamberpot of Commerce.

  83. 83.

    socraticsilence

    October 26, 2009 at 2:07 pm

    BOB-

    I shouldn’t even engage with you but this is such a blatantly egregious historical understatement I can’t let it slide:

    “The Romans strictly defined the length of time of military rule, I think it was six months. This is because they appreciated the value of representative rule, and understood the danger of a powerful executive.”

    Nice, of you to leave out the end results of this system, I mean its certainly not like this lead to the establishment of a monarchial regime or anything- or the various derivations of the surname of one of said leaders came to be an honorific title in multiple European nation-states- I mean Kaiser, Czar, I’m sure they just have their roots in Caesar because of the noted Russian and German respect for the orderly turnover of power.

  84. 84.

    Phoenix Woman

    October 26, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    This is why I call it “the GOP/Media Complex”. Because that’s what it is. FOX is the most extreme component, but it’s more a matter of degree rather than difference at this point, since FOX sets their agenda.

  85. 85.

    slippy

    October 26, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    @socraticsilence: In other words, we’ve mistakenly misnamed the Friedman Unit.

    It should have been the Caesar Unit.

  86. 86.

    Tony J

    October 26, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    @Brian Griffin:

    By the way, the stock market under democrats has outperformed the stock market under republicans, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, for the past 100 years.

    Liebral propaganda that is easily refuted by mumble…. mumble…. something…. mumble…. mumble…. the Dark Side.

    CEO pay, on the other hand, has tended to rise a lot faster under republicans.

    A-ha! Yes. Which, as you can see, proves that high rates of pay for Wealth Creators translates into economic success, because it’s only after Republicans reward the stock market that the Democrats get to coast through another term in power on the riptide of profit they did nothing to create.

    Who needs to know anything about the economy? It’s clear that simply electing Republicans is all the average voter has to do to keep the engine ticking over.

  87. 87.

    slippy

    October 26, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    Obama is George Bush, except that Obama is comfortable being photographed while golfing at the same time that men are fighting and dying on his order. The policies are essentially the same. The golf-thing was Bush’s glimmer of Virtue.

    Anybody who believes this deserves to be mocked as head-crushingly fucking stupid.

    Bush had no glimmers of virtue. He inconveniently injured himself so that he was unable to play golf anymore, and then conveniently made a Big Fucking Deal out of it because he thought fucking morons without four brain cells between their ears would think he was virtuous.

    In that, he was successful.

  88. 88.

    dr. bloor

    October 26, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill:

    Another Change option would be to turn things over to the United States Marine Corps for a short, defined, period of time. Goldman Sachs could tell it to the Marines. The early Romans had a similar system.

    This has some merit, but would be a far superior option if Obama handed over control to the leadership group in “Taps.” They were every bit as disciplined and principled as the real Marines, and would bring added benefits including good looks, stage presence and (in Cruise’s case) the far-reaching vision of Scientology to the office.

  89. 89.

    redoubt

    October 26, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    @slippy: BOB, for one, welcomes his Fascist overlords.

    Since it’s apparent that his knowledge of history stopped with the Roman Republic. “Crossing the Rubicon” is in the lexicon for a reason.

    @Bob In Pacifica: I’m reminded of a book–Fritz Thyssen, I Paid Hitler, 1941.

  90. 90.

    dadanarchist

    October 26, 2009 at 3:37 pm

    This is why I proposed elsewhere that Politico be known as Concern Troll Bridge: it is a one-stop shop for every flavor of concern trollery one could ever want, and since trolls live under bridges, well…

    Politico’s sole purpose is to provide an anonymous means for Village and Corporate elites to wring their hands and express their concern about Democratic policies that are, quite sensibly, attempting to limit their influence and crack down on the amount of shit they were allowed to get away with under the reign of George II/Cheney the First, and the Clenis’ DNC-run WH.

    Since Mike Allen will fellate anybody with an iota of power, they all know where to turn…

  91. 91.

    dadanarchist

    October 26, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    @dadanarchist: Clenis’ DNC-run WH

    That should read DLC-run WH.

  92. 92.

    matoko_chan

    October 27, 2009 at 10:19 am

    For the lexicon–

    con-serf-a-tism, n, defn–
    the mistaken belief by the proletariat that keeping Wallstreet’s capitalist boot on their throats will one day result in a key to the club.

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