Open Thread by John Cole| October 29, 200910:54 pm| 159 CommentsThis post is in: Open ThreadsFacebookTweetEmailHave at it.
Is this teh hint that Sydney and I should stop talking about Marines and such on your more serious thread?
is BOB back?
Can we talk about my lunch of this afternoon? Rubino’s Pizza in Bexley, Ohio, kickin’ it since 1954. Just look at that thin, crispy, perfect creation. I’ve been in love with this place since college, and every time I’m in the capital I swear it sings my name until I reach it. If you’re ever in the Columbus area, you would be a pizza-lovin’ fool to skip it. Nirvana on Broad Street. Heaven on a pie plate.
When you have a perfect day like today, all you want to do is share.
I am assuming John is not back yet so we wont have any pictures of tunch right? I miss tunch.
valdivia: Seems so, depressingly enough.
Does it get down to 12° F in West Virginia in October? Here at 7,000 feet in northern New Mexico, it feels like the beginning of an old-timey winter.
Yes, we have fall here, only it’s called September.
Hmm. We had a Rubinos here in Socal that had pizza exactly like that – thin crispy crust, cut untraditionally – awesome stuff. They bugged out about 6 years ago or so. They must be related.
JHF: Well, I’m slightly north of WV, but no, it doesn’t get that cold this early generally. My sympathies.
@valdivia: Did we ever learn where @John Cole went?
His San Diego trip in the summer he was narrating the whole thing, what he did, what he eat, what he saw.
This time, not so much. Must be somewhere less interesting.
@Martin: And FTFY.
My only consolation (other than this will tie up the series) is that Pay Fraud is having a really shitty series so far. Guess fucking Kate ain’t so lucky.
Tunch is king.
I spent most of this evening at a meeting of the fundraising foundation of Bottle Rocket’s grade school. The next time I get the bright idea to do that, please, someone JUST FUCKING SHOOT ME.
Ash Can +nowhere near enough
Maybe the steroid tanker truck couldn’t get down to the Bronx this week.
@JenJen: I loved knocking about Columbus on a fall day, particularly on away game weekends. Now, my OSU days were some time ago and it was a quainter town back then. Last time I was there, barely recognised it.
or, um, much *more* interesting. cough cough.
@Martin: Oh but he’s CLEAN now! Honest! Just ask him!
Anyone else eagerly awaiting the tell-all from his ex-wife? I’m sure she’d be more than willing to violate a few non-disclosure agreements for the money that would bring her.
Why won’t it stop raining in the great Middle West of these United States?
ok can I still this from you? I feel that way a lot and could use that trademarked phrase.
Also-sorry you feel that way right now.
oh ‘steal’ not still.
where is the edit function?
kommrade reproductive vigor
Another judge told Orly Taitz, Alan Keyes and a bunch of assorted Birfers to GtFo today. The only response is to start Civil War II, Electric Boogaloo:
via teh comments.
So,like what does Joey Lieberhole have to do to get kicked out of the Dem caucus? Does he have to be caught spying on the Dems and turning the intelligence over to the Repubs?
Cat cannot grasp that “out + dry” is not an option right now.
@Martin: Fuck every single damn New York Yankee and anyone even remotely affiliated with their organization.
My cat Malfoy did a Tunch and disappeared for several hours today. After I spent 20 minutes or so driving around the neighborhood looking for his limp corpse, I came home, wept a bit, took a bath…
And there he was, emerging from under my bed.
To quote John, “The fat bastard.”
I an out crew. Mucho grading to do tomorrow. ugh.
In the course of reading about Andre Agassi doing meth, I came across the story of the French player Richard Gasquet who “successfully defended himself against an allegation of cocaine use by saying it entered his system through kissing a woman in a nightclub.” Is that even possible?
@ellaesther 11:19 pm
Cubits. Gopher wood. ‘Nuff said.
Jon Stewart called Faux News a “perpetual revulsion machine” tonight.
I’m going to hit a hot button on some of the rage regarding rich people: we all really hate the Sachs people right now and the banksters because of all the face-sucking (as per Taibbi) that they have been doing. However, are rich people in general literally sitting on piles of cash or building a house of cards (aka stock market) or are there ones who are solidly investing in the real world? Someone like Bill Gates comes to mind and Warren Beatty (sp?). Are there any others or are most just useless parasites?
@Ellid: I’m glad the lil fuck is alright. I hate that missing cat panic.
Did your dog come back? I missed any update.
@JenJen: Talk about those thin-assed pizzas all ya want. I know pizza, pizza is a friend of mine, and that pizza is no pizza.
@Cain: As I told Mrs J when she called from work: no…not yet. And it’s raining tonight.
Gordon, The Big Express Engine
@valdivia: No – see my comment at 11:33 on previous thread…
@Glidwrith: Actually I’d be willing to bet the vast majority of these fucks are only worth millions on paper. They are sitting on tons and tons of unrealized stock options where they can SAY they have xhundred millions net worth but actually don’t touch it because of A) lack of necessity and B) tax reasons (capital gains are only taxed when realized). So a lot of these folks want the bubble inflated again so they can get back to exactly where they were. I think it would be interesting to see just how much of the Goldman bonuses are true cash vs options/unrealized stock.
@Mark S.: Possible, but not likey – there are stories….
Too, I believe they can BORROW against those assets, which gives them liquidity without losing the assets and the interest (which is, of course, low) is something they can deduct (if I’m not mistaken) from the capital gains when they do cash in.
@SiubhanDuinne: Sigh. I’ll go get the dove….
@gnomedad: You’re welcome to join me in the ark that SiubhanDuinne is having me build.
@ellaesther: Call Sydney and tell him to send you two echidnae ( you have NO IDEA how long I’ve wanted to use the plural of that!) and platypi (ditto) along with a few other various Aussie critters lying about.
@valdivia: LOL! That’s not trademarked; it’s just stating the obvious. Of course you can use it.
@ellaesther: Are you related to this guy?
@Glidwrith: Glid – Wealthy people are all useless parasites. They sit on money and accrue more to themselves merely by virtue of having money or power. That is how it’s ALWAYS been with the rich and powerful throughout history.
With some minor exceptions, of course. But the exceptions are usually people who are able to be so because they have a shit-ton of money to begin with.
@Yutsano: average GS comp this year will be $700k+ per employee. Typically that will be in the form of cash and stock. Say 50/50% with the stock part vesting over three or four years.
I’m watching the Wanda Sykes HBO special that I recorded a week or so ago.
I highly recommend it. She’s very funny.
Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
@Yutsano: What’s worse than realizing you have a third sister? Realizing that you’re still the only boy and the family name is still in your very unwilling hands.
@Glidwrith: I think you mean Warren Buffet. He agreed to give over 90% of his net worth to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation with the caveat that they spend it pretty aggressively.
@inkadu: Have to giggle at that. The Dawg is an only son of an only son of an only son. He’s an only child but I think his father has sisters since I know he has cousins (one is watching his house while he’s off saving the world).
@kommrade reproductive vigor: Get ready for the cheeto dust to fly. Keyboards will be vigorously typed upon! Obama-target photoshops will be created! Cafe-press will offer new bumper stickers!!
Code Red Mountain Dew will be consumed!
Makewi will post something snotty to BJ, right before leaving her junior college commons for that cool frat party at State and getting cited for Minor in Possession!
@Ben Richards: I saw an article in TIME magazine today that about made me choke, but they said that part of the reason for the high compensation is because of the ungoldy living costs of living in Manhattan. Yeah because the bosses at Goldman are holding guns to their heads and FORCING them to live there.
@Yutsano: Thing is, I grew up without almost any extended family… just my parents and my sister. Now they’re popping up all over the world.
It’s like my family replicates by wind-borne spores.
My uncles are doing a pretty good job with the family name, though, so it’s just my father who is going to be a dead end.
Ever hear people say they have children so they can live on through their children? I always thought that was stupid.
@Yutsano: Excellent! I will do, for we have to save them all, I’m given to understand. (“echidnae” “platypi” — brilliant! Ah, I love being a word geek…!)
@MattR: No, and thank the Lord! Can you imagine? Wow, that is something. I
think Iwouldn’t even want to be his neighbor.
@Yutsano: Yes, it is expensive raising your children in Manhattan, especially when you have rent an entire floor and send your kid to a private school and have a second home in Connecticut.
Give me a few million dollars and I’m sure I can use it all too.
DH Liddel’s History of the Second World War is calling my name.
I cursory google search seems to indicate that the internet is unaware of the proper meaning of “FTFY.” Perhaps this should be added to the lexicon?
I’ll take this Yanks win.
My mother came home from the hospital today. She’s got a fair amount of pain but is her old self. She has a new 40 inch TV my dad got her for the bedroom to tide her over, lol.
What I liked about the previous post:
2. good faith arguments
3. no racism
4. no BOB!
But jeffreyw’s missing Jack gives me a SAD.
Is this where someone inserts the obligatory ‘Appalachian Trail’ remark?
John, if you read this: Frankie says RELAX. That smoker of a post down thread and the ensuing comments are why I love this place, warts, BoBs and all.
That the whole center/left of the country’s got PTSD after the Bush years is a given, but the part that’s got my adrenals exhausted is the Cheney Bunch that won’t die.
Liz Cheney is like the little girl in that old movie “The Bad Seed“. A dangerous, serial liar and a sociopath.
Red Wings with just a redunkulous comeback from 1-5 to tie it up at 5. In OT ATM. Wow.
Yeah, cost of living where I am is 80% of what it is in Manhattan. Can I send the Time editors to talk to my boss. I need a raise of about 700,000,000%.
@Cat Lady: Anybody wanna bet Liz Cheney discussed classified intelligence information with her father over the last 8 eight years that was above her State Department security clearance?
Sucker’s bet anybody?
I imagine her and Lynn and Dick watching those “missing” CIA torture tapes together, discussing whether the waterboard’s angle should be lower or the voltage higher, while eating lark’s wings in puppy sauce.
To be fair, the Yankees are like a second stimulus package in these here parts (NY-Metro area).
And as a Jay-Z and a Yankees fan, tonight was literally and figuratively full of win for me. This from a person freezing his ass off in NYC in a Rivera t-shirt.
I await being chased off this blog.
@Robertdsc-iphone: Yay! Happy for your family. Moms are so important.
@parksideq: I await being chased off this blog.
What fun would that be? We’ll just mock you mercilessly.
@Cat Lady: The more she runs her mouth on the TV, the greater the chances of somebody who would know such things (like what came out when in which report) will catch on and maybe blow the whistle.
And of course our far-left, libtard main stream media would then run it into the end zone and smear her. Smear, I said! Smear that good patriotic woman and her Great American(TM) father!
FSM, are you listening?
@Robertdsc-iphone: Old self + 40″ TV = Good Times! Best wishes for a speedy recovery for your Mom.
Nice visual before dinner, now I’m not nearly as hungry.
And it wasn’t the lark’s wings in puppy sauce.
i post here because the nylons thread had over 100 comments already (tho i’m pushing that limit here already).
in re: lion sleeps tonite (of which the nylons version is one of my favs):
i did a moderately-researched skippy’s late nite music club last summer tracing the evolution of this song from its south african roots thru the american folk-doo wop-rock scenes (with a nod to the nyons, as well!)…
anyone who has a major earworm from this song should visit and listen to the various versions. i especially like the original by solomon linda and the evening song birds.
@Cat Lady: Actually it was Lark’s Tongues in Aspic she’d be eating, with her father, the 21st Century Schizoid Man.
Robert Fripp rules. Accept no substitutes.
@jeffreyw: Dude you’re food pr0ning again. Not that I mind.
General Winfield Stuck
New Libby pic. The cute factor is near critical mass.
Currently, the best pizza in OC comes from Lenny’s on 17th Street in Tustin. Also try their seafood ravioli, which is TDF.
@Comrade Kevin #29
Jeez, just finished watching TDS myself. Jon Stewart kicked Fox in the teeth for five straight minutes–with vigah.
Not that they’ll notice.
Cal Thomas seriously looks like he uses an undertaker for his makeup. It’s as goddamn disturbing as it is apropos.
@burnspbesq: Got a couple of friends down that way (one of whom is active working for Jerry Brown’s election/re-election) might have to suggest that as a dining spot. She’s a vegetarian and he’s an omnivore, though not sure how close either is to Tustin.
I yield to no one in my hatred for all things Yankee, but one is forced to admit that Mariano Rivera is the genuine article.
Oh, and one other thing:
Cole. As one of sully’s frequent defenders here, I gotta ask, how does it feel to be at the helm and “launch an attack”?
Your serious post down page is why I read here. That and the rest of you. Y’all rock and you have more youth and heart than you realize.
As for my night, I spent it writing, and now I feel vulnerable but excited. I haven’t written anything extensive that was personal or narrative in years. Feels good.
Wile E. Quixote
I’m glad your Mom is home from the hospital. MRSA is nasty stuff, I had a dose of it several years ago, fortunately for me it was just the nasty MRSA and not the really horrible MRSA like your Mom had. Take care.
We’ll have to try it. There was a good place in Costa Mesa 17th street a number of years back that was awesome, but they vanished. Our other local good places vanished as well. Rent is too high for pizza – at least pizza that won’t bankrupt me. With 2 kids, we’re past a single large and I can’t afford $45 for pizza dinner.
I need to get back to making my own. It’s easy, reasonably fast when you make a big batch of dough and freeze it, and I can feed my family for about $6.
@Martin: Not to encourage you one way or the other, but Domino’s is running a special on their specialty pizzas for $6.99 for a large pie. And a few of them are really really good.
Oh, yeah – Vinnie’s was indeed teh awesome.
It’s a bitch that we lack for great pizza. But we have Wahoo’s and Taco Mesa, and that is ample consolation. Yeah, two blackened calamari tacos would really hit the spot right about now.
Pataki goes rogue, endorses teabagger darling Doug Hoffman in NY-23. For reals.
Yes! I forgot the name of the place. Le sigh…
SoCal generally sucks for pizza – but I lived in NY, so there’s a pretty high standard there. SoCal wins, hands down, on mexican and burgers – and those are pretty important culinary categories. I could live on Tommy’s alone.
Thankfully we also have Philly’s Best here in Irvine, so I can get a decent cheesesteak as well.
@phillip anderson: Let the circular firing squad commence. This is gonna be extremely bloody when all is said and done.
“I don’t give a crap ’bout whales so go and hug a tree!”
@Yutsano: Let’s get some popcorn!
@Glidwrith: BillG actually played pretty conservatively, making sure the company always sat on lots of cash. Like 50 billion dollars.No dividends for 17 years. People like AIG had somewhere from 20-30 billion in reserve but were leveraged out to the tune of 500 billion to trillions depending on the parsing, and have been paying dividends on top of that for a while.
So when Microsft made the Xbox 1, the total thing was about a 1 billion dollar loss, that was paid for by eating into the 50 billion in cash they had sitting in the bank.
When AIG lost trillions, all they had to draw upon were their paltry reserves of tens of billions, and they had to ask Uncle Sugar to pay for the rest, less the financial system implode (goldman sachs holding the contracts for hundreds of those billions).
One company cleared their credit cards and let the cash sit in the bank to pay for debacles like BOB and clippy, while the other maxed out their credit card and went crying to daddy when their Jag got reposessed. And then demanded a bonus.
@soonergrunt: A guy I work with has family that makes kettle corn at farmer’s markets. They do all the funky flavors but the best is still the original. Will that work?
I are teh serius.
@Tattoosydney: You is teh serious something, I won’t argue that!
On a more semi-serious subject, I got an e-mail this morning about a job opening in my field in Sydney. Not saying I’m biting or anything but it did make me smile even before I got my coffee.
There is a school of overbearing and smarmy exactitude which would point out that, platypus being a word of Greek origin, the correct plural is “platypuses”.
However, I am not of that school, and instead use “platypodes”….
Apple is doing that as well. $25B in cash, no debt. They’re investing in open source projects for the future as well.
Funny how the old, conservative Wall Street guys are fucking up the world and the high-tech reinvent the world guys look like old money put it all in t-bills types.
Quite the reversal from the 90s.
@Tattoosydney: I is having all kinds of edjumacation today. Not only did I learn the British origin of trick-or-treating for All Hallow’s Eve, I’ve learned that platypus has multiple plurals. Plus “platypuses” just sounds too Anglicized to me.
It’s 5pm Friday here… I need a drink. [Does weekend dance]
It’s my buck’s night tomorrow night… (well, technically “our” bucks’ night, seeing as there are two bucks)
The other day, when I woke up, my newly adopted 8-year-old akita came into the room, tail wagging, licked my hand, and left. I thought, good morning to you, too. Then I thought, oh, what she’s really saying is she needs to go outside. :-P
Tonight she’s running around, spazzing out because she sees my outside cat sitting on the kitchen windowsill begging for more food.
@eco2geek: Dog doors are your friend. We would never survive having four cats without some sort of portal they could use to handle their own business.
@Tattoosydney: It’s my Friday and technically my aging day. :) I’m not gonna get any sleep until my brother and sis-in-law get done packing for their honeymoon then I get to drive them off to get rid of them. I’m tired already, but cheers mate!
Answer to your question in the previous thread about BOB’s banning.
@Martin: I prefer to look it as investing in talent. I’d much rather invest in engineerrs with PHDs in Fast Fourier Transforms than some DC twat who has a sister in the pentagon.
I hope hop e hope this gets handed out all over the damn White House and to every Congresscritter. Amanpour has been one of my favorite journalists for a very long time and she actually gets to the heart of her material. I found this column illuminating and (dare I say it) hopeful.
@Yutsano: Unfortunately, not for this dog. She’s already tried to snatch the cat off the windowsill once (fortunately, she was on a leash and only got it by the scruff of the neck before it got away) and I’m pretty sure she’d kill it if she could.
(My wife thinks she’s currently attempting to guard us from the cat. :-)
Quite unlike my last dog, a siberian husky who completely ignored the cats, we can’t let this one out by herself.
Your dog is coming back, don’t worry.
I became an uncle today. My sister-in-law gave birth to a healthy baby girl. Same birthday as my dad!
@jeffreyw: Aw, that sucks. :( Hope to hear good news in the morning. I’m sending a white light for you, the missus, and Jack.
@Yutsano: I cannot believe you and FH#1 are talking about sharing hubbies behind my back! *Sob! Oh, and you should look through jeffreyw’s whole Flickr set. Great food pr0n. deliquescentdreams, she is me. Oh, and happy aging day. You’re still a youngin’ to me.
@Tattoosydney: Hey, FH#1! I see you and FH#2 are doing some serious bonding. Should I be worried?
@Cain: Woot woot! Congrats.
@Robertdsc-iphone: FTFY, but congrats on your moms getting out of the hospital.
OK, I know there are a lot of B.o.B. softies at BJ, but I, for one, am much happier when he is banned.
Thank you! :)
@eco2geek: That’s part Akita there. They can be a bit aggressive and territorial. The hand kiss thing was adorable though. Reminded me of that article about how dogs manipulate us to suit their needs as much as regard us as companions.
Not one year older, just one year cleverer.
@asiangrrlMN: There you is! Where you been hiding? FH #1 has been spotty, I think he’s still slaving away some.
Only if you think we might throw you over for some other fake wife….
which I suspect is highly unlikely by the way…
How many other wives would put up with us living in different states and sleeping with men every night?
Thanks. So, a well deserved banning then.
@Yutsano: I’ve been blogging. Plus, I didn’t wanna get involved on the last thread, so I was just staying on the downlow until someone posted a new Open Thread.
When are you taking the newlyweds to the airport?
Just watched the first episode of the new season of FNL. It is still all that.
@Tattoosydney: How many other wives would put up with us living in different states and sleeping with men every night?
Speak for yourself there Tonto. Mine’s 3000+ miles away LOL.
@Tattoosydney: Hm. This is true. Carry on, then. As you were!
@Yutsano: Yes, well, at least you each HAVE one!
Yep. Work has almost finished, but today I have given a two hour presentation for 30 hotel owners, written about 50 pages of legal gumph, and stopped global warming.
Well, maybe not the last one, but I deserve a drink… Just one more advice to get out.
@asiangrrlMN: Train station (they fly out in the morning for Miami) and whenever they’re done packing. I actually only have to drive them to a friend’s who will take them over (train leaves at 4 am) then off on a great adventure for them.
We needed a better troll anyway. No loss. Makewi is just going to have to step it up.
@Tattoosydney: written about 50 pages of legal gumph
Is that the official Australian legal term?
@burnspbesq: That was a funny amirite?
@Yutsano: You read my mind, dear hubby. The idea of Makalakaweewee being anything other than pathetic is highly amusing.
@burnspbesq: I say DougJ should just dust off one of his old personae and be the superior troll that BJ deserves.
@asiangrrlMN: We can always hope that Michael Gass steps his game up. Must…keep…ellipsis…powers…under control!
@Yutsano: Oh my god. You just made me laugh for the first time today! Where…are…your…certs?
Cowboys are hosting Seattle on Sunday. Time to pad the stats boys!
@Ranger 3: Depends…who’s Romo fucking right now?
@Ranger 3: Oh and GO SEACHICKENS!!
Na ga ha pen
Sure is, cobber.
@Tattoosydney: So our happy little family (you, Yutsano, and I) are in perfect agreement. Domestic harmony!
@Tattoosydney: Na ga ha pen
I gotta go. Night all.
@asiangrrlMN: Night sweetie. I’m gonna bond with your other hubby for a bit as I’m stuck waiting for the newlyweds to get all their crap together.
Oh, hey there, Mr. uh… Brown-Shoes! How about that … local sports team!
Everyone’s entitled to one filthy, nasty, revolting, disgusting hobby. You guys ever find out what I do with my discretionary dollars these days, there will probably be a petition launched to have me banned from BJ. Or the internets.
You grow out your armpit hair, drive around on tractors, and look for pizza component bargains? Fishing for some BOB love would meet the criteria.
@Anne Laurie: If it doesn’t involve somehow undermining the Steelers or the Penguins then I think you’re pretty much safe. Unless you’re the one posting all those pics of Jeff Kent on the Douchebag blog. Well no not even that would do it I think, you’re not making him act like the dumbdonkey.
@Tattoosydney: I was gonna make this deal with my British boss but I don’t think he could so I’ll try with you. If you can explain to me in as succinct a fashion as possible the rules of cricket then I will buy you an alcoholic beverage of your choice.
Test, one-day or 20/20?
Cricket is a game which involves 22 people doing bugger all on a field, while the crowd watch, drink, play music, shout at each other and generally have a good time. What happens on the field is largely irrelevant, and only happens for the purpose of giving you something to look at between beers.
That is all you need to know about cricket.
my friend’s parked car got rear-ended by some DUI who’s now going away for a long, long time. His car’s kind of screwed, but he doesn’t feel that bad about it, but I feel twice as anxious and excited about what I wrote earlier.
Like I’m opening myself up to experience more vile adolescent hatred, more immature rejection. Maybe it’s the age, and what I’ve gone through. Anyways, thanks guys and gals. Today has been an absolute hoot. See you tomorrow.
@Tattoosydney: One could almost make the same argument for American football, which from what I understand in the various countries in the Commonwealth the rules of which confounds all of them up to and including the very name. We do tend to pay a bit more attention to what happens on the field, but otherwise it’s just a good excuse to get toasted and rowdy.
Cricket is a cross between baseball and Calvinball.
Now take that yakker and hit it over third slip for four.
If you understand my last comment you have spent far too much time watching cricket.
@burnspbesq: Totally lost, which I am guessing should make me feel better. It could just be my inherent intellectual curiosity but I wanna understand this phenomenon dammit.
Yakker is a bastardization of “yorker,” which is the cricket equivalent of a backdoor slider, a ball delivered at the batsman but with spin that will cause it (ideally) to bounce away to the side of the wicket away from the batsman (I assume you know that in cricket, the bowled ball is supposed to bounce before it gets to the batsman).
Third slip is a defensive position. Using a third slip is a lot like putting three infielders on the left side against a right-handed pull hitter.
A batted ball that crosses the boundary on one or more bounces is worth four runs.
@burnspbesq: Just from that I’m already understanding the Calvinball analogy. Just out of curiosity, do we need to explain Calvinball to the Aussie over there?
@Martin: I said filthy, nasty, and disgusting — not stupid!
Dude! It’s in teh Lexicon! (And I was so proud of compiling that definition, too… )
@Yutsano: Your mom. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
@Anne Laurie: In my (minor) defense, I think we were discussing Calvinball in the literal sense. The definition is pretty damn awesome. :)
@Ranger 3: Assuming that statement were true, he wouldn’t be sucking ass dude.
@jeffreyw: While that is, indeed, some nice-looking pizza pie, it wouldn’t be admitted to Club Rubino’s. Way way way too much dough, mi amigo. Give me wafer-thin, delicately-sauced, lightly-cheesed pizza all day long. :-)
@Anne Laurie: As long as you didn’t vote McCain (or root for the BoSox) I’m sure your indulgence isn’t that egregious.
@Yutsano: Oh, yeah, with extra butter.
We just need some really good beer and we’re set.