Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

It’s time for the GOP to dust off that post-2012 autopsy, completely ignore it, and light the party on fire again.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Let’s finish the job.

We still have time to mess this up!

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

The revolution will be supervised.

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

When do the post office & the dmv weigh in on the wuhan virus?

We are aware of all internet traditions.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

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  3. 3.

    handy

    The GOP: the party that doesn’t want your vote to count*.

    *–Unless you’re rich, white, or male (preferably all three) and your last name isn’t Soros.

  5. 5.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    He’s just bucking to ride shotgun with Derbyshire. As long as they can keep non-whites and females from voting in large enough numbers they actually have a shot at winning something other than the open Grand Wizards seat in the Mississippi chapter of the KKK.

  6. 6.

    Leelee for Obama

    @handy: Soros never counted with them He’s a furriner, don’tchaknow? I find it amazing how these asshats rattle on about Constitutional originalism and all. The right to vote is in the Constitution, it has been expanded by Amendments, as the Founders provided for, there is no rule that one must vote their way, though you’d think there was. The numbers scare the crap out of ’em and that’s when they are loudest. Screw ’em. I’m planning on volunteering to register voters for next year-something else to do. The more, the merrier.

  7. 7.

    Nylund

    The ability by minorities to steal elections is evident by the absolute lack of non-minorities amongst our elected officials.

  11. 11.

    handy

    @Leelee for Obama:

    Fair enough. I should have added “and red-blooded Patriotic Go USA Get A Brain Morans’ Murrikan” to my disclaimer, though in general, “rich, white, and male” is sufficient enough for their purposes.

  13. 13.

    Brian J

    I’m curious, if those on the right have such irrefutable evidence that those on the left are messing with elections, WHY THE FUCK DON’T THEY GO TO THE GODDAMN POLICE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? If your house is being robbed or your property vandalized, and you know who is doing it and can prove it, do you sit on your fat ass and complain about it, or do you try to punish those who are breaking the law? Those of us living in reality would try to do something about it. Fund and others can claim that they aren’t in power and thus can’t respond effectively, but that doesn’t pass the laugh test.

    On the other hand, does fund have some sort of insider polling analysis that suggests Corzine is likely to win? Or is he simply trying to stain the result of the one race the Democrats will likely win most easily? I don’t read his nonsense often, so I don’t know his habits around election times, except the most obvious ones.

  15. 15.

    Joshua

    The fun part of this pre-emptive conspiracy theorism is that you get to claim you’re right no matter how your predictions turn out. Either things happen the way he says, in which he gloats about predicting the conspiracy. Or they don’t, in which case his prediction caused a citizen uprising that thwarted the conspirators.

  17. 17.

    John Sears

    @John Sears: I totally read that comment backward.

    The high rate of white people in elected office is ALSO evidence of minority sneakiness, in the same way that all news is good for Republicans.

    Especially their crushing losses.

  18. 18.

    kay

    This entire article is just chock full of misinformation which is the absolute norm when conservatives opine on the mechanics of voting.
    It has to be deliberate. Voting information is specific and boring, but it’s out there, and easily located.
    I think it’s amazing he wants ballots discarded on a signature mismatch.
    It’s like the Holy Grail of election regs. One person never, ever just discards the ballot. Disqualifying a ballot is elaborate, and it should be.
    Ballots have a number, and it matches a number on the stub. I can’t imagine how anyone would explain missing ballots.
    “That signature looked a little screwy, so I tossed it”. The whole place would go quiet. It’s like rule number one.

  19. 19.

    Jason Bylinowski

    Seriously, stuff like this just doesn’t phase me anymore. I don’t know when exactly it was that I drank the Obamanaid (somewhere around the time US culture imploded simply because BHO signed the Nobel Peacification Treaty thingy, though perhaps I’ve got some technical details confused there), but ever since that incident, I’ve just felt like it’s all downhill from here, nottamean?

    It’s all good. Dogs will hunt, Republicans will form dark theories, and this is all just part of the normal makeup of the universe. It’s not much but, hey, it’s home.

  20. 20.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Maybe an activist or government worker will be beaten and hanged as sort of a pressure-valve for our tensions. These elections sure play havoc with our emotions.

  21. 21.

    The Dangerman

    So, let me see if I have this straight; Democrats win, there was voter fraud (almost surely being caused by ACORN), Republicans win when the brother of the winning Candidate was the Governor of the key State, there was no voter fraud. Fuck Fund.

  23. 23.

    kay

    @Jason Bylinowski:

    Voter fraud conspiracy is huge on the Right. It started before Obama. It played a central role in the US attorney scandal, so the Christie connection here is a nice thread to weave in.

    It’s a widely accepted theory that predates Obama. Look how many states passed voter ID laws between 2000 and 2008. It’s huge with them.

    Ask around. I would wager more conservatives believe there is massive voter fraud than believe Obama was born in Kenya.

  24. 24.

    Zifnab25

    I almost forgot Murdoch owned this paper. Thanks for the reminder. When does Lou Dobbs get a column anyway?

  25. 25.

    Leelee for Obama

    @The Grand Panjandrum: Getting a little better every day. I have a few things to take care of, like a dentist visit or two and new glasses-found a CNA school, so that’ll start in January. Now I just have to find a job-hehehehe. Hopefully soon, thanks for asking!

  26. 26.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    So the non-whites keep stealing elections to elect more white guys?

    Makes sense to me, in a Republican inverse alternate plane of reality kind of way. Now please excuse me while I go get my brain turned back to outside-out.

  28. 28.

    Ranger 3

    @kay: Yeah. And many complete refuse to acknowledge that welfare reform happened. I hear plenty of otherwise knowledgable conservatives moaning about all the folks who have been on welfare for 20 years… if you told them that Bill Clinton actually put an end to that they would be deeply confused.

    But even then they would go right back to believing that (mostly black) people have been getting welfare checks since 1978. It’s tribalism.

  30. 30.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    fReichtards see everything in black and white:

    White guy driving a nice car = Successful business man.
    Black driving a nice car = OMG a car jacker and drug dealer. Also!

    White guy casting his vote = staunch citizen doing his civic duty.
    Black guy casting his vote = OMG ACORN BLACK PANTHER FRAUD!

    &c, &c, &fuckingc.

    It’s a widely accepted theory that predates Obama. Look how many states passed voter ID laws between 2000 and 2008. It’s huge with them.

    Conspiracy has nothing to do with it. Putting up another bar between the polls and Those People has everything to do with it. It’s just that “We’re worried a bunch of illegals will screw up the election” sounds slightly more acceptable than “Gosh we miss the poll-tax. And literacy requirements. Also.”

  31. 31.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    @kay: Isn’t that the truth. I lived in NM until August of last year and the NM GOP is full of people who are just absolutely nuts when it comes to “voting fraud”. Iglesias was hounded almost from day one about some of the most frivolous cases. What is fascinating about that entire episode is that Iglesias was one of them. He is an evangelical Christian, and very conservative. He was also a rock solid officer of the court and didn’t gin up phony prosecutions to please the party elites.

  34. 34.

    kay

    @Ranger 3:

    Voter fraud is like nothing else. It may have eclipsed welfare fraud. They’re red-faced and furious in 30 seconds. They’ll point to some obscure misdemeanor conviction in a state three states over to “prove” massive fraud.
    They all read some manifesto in 1999. I don’t know what the hell happened. They were voting on a signature in a poll book for 30 years, and all of a sudden…we need retina scans, and sworn statements, and a relative to vouch. It went from this friendly neighborhood civic exercise to some weird authoritarian obstacle course. The assumption is “no, you probably can’t vote, but I’ll consider your application”.
    I finally quit, as a poll worker. They drove me out. I was having a nervous breakdown, running interference, playing good cop to their bad cop. I now vote absentee.

  36. 36.

    MikeJ

    Why doesn’t John Fund just beat people until they vote the way he wants? Does he have something against beating people, women in particular? Note the use of a question, rather than a statement.

  39. 39.

    kay

    @The Grand Panjandrum:

    It’s hard to maintain the fiction if you actually look at convictions or indictments, and he was never a hack. He knows it’s a minor problem. The numbers just aren’t there. My state (Ohio) had 8 indictments in the last 10 years. Not convictions. Charges. That’s inconsequential.
    I deal with illegal immigrants in the course of my work occasionally and I have to laugh at the idea that they are ever, ever willingly entering a government facility to answer a series of questions on residence.
    They tend to avoid that situation.
    There’s a persistent rumor among our low-income citizens that voting leads directly to unwelcome government…intervention in their personal lives, and those are citizens. I can’t convince them no one is going to drop a dragnet for unspecified infractions on them when they walk through the flags. They’d just as soon…not.

  40. 40.

    Brian J

    He was also a rock solid officer of the court and didn’t gin up phony prosecutions to please the party elites.

    …which explains why they went after him.

    If there was one incident that really required a lot of right leaning people to turn their heads in the other direction by denying reality, this was it. Unless they go by the principle that it’s fair for those who appoint judges to get rid of them when they refuse to do something their president wants them to do, it was impossible for conservatives to convincingly argue that this situation didn’t reek of corruption. They tried but failed miserably.

  43. 43.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    @kay: These are, many of them, the same people who scream and holler about gummint intervention in every other facet of their lives. Yet making it more difficult to vote and requiring enough identification to get access to Dick Cheney’s undisclosed location is fine when it comes to exercising your voting franchise.

    Irony will flourish as long as the wingnuts exist.

  45. 45.

    slag

    I’m so glad ACORN and every other minority had the wherewithal to steal the 2000 election. Imagine where we’d be if George W Bush got elected!

  47. 47.

    Martin

    Isn’t it funny how often minorities steal elections by voting.

    The problem is that they’re always getting 2/5ths more of a vote than they’re entitled. Or do you hate the Constitution too?

  50. 50.

    kay

    @kommrade reproductive vigor:

    Oh, I’ve been around and around on this. You have no idea.
    It’s a “privilege”, they say, not a “right” so I say: “Okay. Voting is like… driving, then?” and they know that can’t be right, so they wander around in the weeds for a while looking for a good comparison, and end up asking me belligerent questions about whether I need ID at the BANK, and by then we hate each other, and I’m calling them “profoundly undemocratic”.
    It got worse every year. I had to quit. I was going to beat the shit out of a co-worker if I hung around.

  51. 51.

    Kris

    I just don’t get why anyone listens to this wife beater(John Fund) about anything.

    This is a man who threw his wife across the room because she wouldn’t have sex with him. Why are you even reading his columns?

  53. 53.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    It’s a “privilege”, they say, not a “right”

    Their initial premise is wrong, either deliberately or through intense, profound, unfixable with a boot to the junk ignorance, so I’m not surprised you didn’t get anywhere.

    @Chad N Freude: Read the last word of your previous reply, amigo. Get it? Waka, waka?

    Never mind.

  54. 54.

    Dan

    Take note. The Republicans and the Republican media has stopped referring to Obama as “President Obama.”

    Note now how often it is “Mr. Obama.” I’ll bet that in 6 months it will be damn near impossible to find a R refer to him as “President.”

  55. 55.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    I just don’t get why anyone listens to this wife beater(John Fund) about anything.

    More importantly, has John Fund stopped beating his wife?

  56. 56.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    I’ll bet that in 6 months it will be damn near impossible to find a R refer to him as “President.”

    This is good news, for President McCain!

  58. 58.

    Perry Como

    Huh, I already voted in the NJ race and I’ve lived here for 10 years. Guess I’m one of those fraudulent voters. (Or I knew I was leaving town around election time and voted in advance, and I’ll be damned if someone can match my signature without a few dozen data points — think your doctor, but much, much worse)

  59. 59.

    Chad N Freude

    @kommrade reproductive vigor: Dude, I’m getting lost in the morass (not more ass) of the subtlety and indirectitude. We both get the joke, and my post a comment post was feigned innocence. If you didn’t recognize the feignting spell, I apologize for being so subtle that I don’t even exist.

  60. 60.

    Cerberus

    The freakout is simple. They looked at demographics. “Them” is growing in population and those in power noted that conservatives have an advantage when turnout is low since old people always vote. So Republican mission number one became how to prevent people from voting.

    Like all wingnut memes, it has a direct line to the southern bullshit invented in the south to prevent civil rights actually reaching the blacks. Our country and perhaps the world would have been better off if we had just let the South secede.

  62. 62.

    Chad N Freude

    @Cerberus:

    Our country and perhaps the world would have been better off if we had just let the South secede.

    Well, perhaps not that part of the world that was black and in the secessioned part of the world. But I take your point.

  63. 63.

    Martin

    Oh, I’ve been around and around on this. You have no idea.

    I always agree with them and suggest that since IDs are so easy for criminal types (like minorities) to fake that the only way to ensure fair voting is for the government to collect and catalogue all of our DNA to be checked whenever we go to vote. I also advocate that anyone who cheats on their taxes will be ineligible to vote that year.

    That usually shuts them up pretty fast.

  65. 65.

    soonergrunt

    @Cerberus: We’d have been even better still if we had treated their treason as what it was and executed every commissioned officer of the CSA army and militias as well as every government minister. The fact that I wouldn’t be here with you all is a minor inconvenience.

  66. 66.

    Sanka

    Well, it’s not just ACORN, its the Democratic Party in general.

    The Democratic State Committee now admits paying for a robocall to Somerset County voters that slams Republican Chris Christie and promotes independent gubernatorial candidate Christopher Daggett.

    A Democratic spokeswoman says the party’s chairman, Joe Cryan, was not aware of the robocalls when he denied that the state committee had anything to do with them yesterday afternoon.

    But…but…RACISM!!

  67. 67.

    soonergrunt

    @Of Bugs and Books: Yeah, that’s the guy they’re talking about.
    I don’t know if the article you linked is true, but to quote a certain disreputable law professor, “interesting if true. Read the whole thing.” And this endorsement by a certain Jesus Dolphin Lady, “it would irresponsible not to speculate.”

  70. 70.

    kay

    @Perry Como:

    John Fund knows perfectly well that every state uses a verification system that relies on a “voterfile” since the Help America Vote Act, a law that came about because of that horror in Florida in 2000, and he also knows we don’t blithely toss ballots based on a signature match but instead mark them “provisional” until they can be verified by an election official.
    The ultimate tie-breaker on “in or out” in my state is a county judge. It’s elaborate, and not at all arbitrary, and no joke.
    Pure misinformation he’s pushing. He’s reprehensible.

  71. 71.

    Nellcote

    @Martin:

    the only way to ensure fair voting is for the government to collect and catalogue all of our DNA to be checked whenever we go to vote.

    You’d think they’d be up for the old serial number tattood on the forearm scheme.

  72. 72.

    soonergrunt

    @kay:
    Things like this is why I detest conservatism and conservatives. Any ideology that must use lies to sustain itself is not worthy of consideration.
    Any ideolog that traffics in easily debunked lies (as soooo many conservatives do) is worthy of a bullet in the head followed by slow decomposition.

  73. 73.

    Montysano

    From the comments on Fund’s column, more yammering about teh “radical leftists” that are now in power.

    I just finished watching the PBS special about Roosevelt, the Depression, and the Civilian Conservation Corps. These WSJ morons wouldn’t know a leftist if one….erm…. bit them on the ass.

    From the midst of what must be the most cynical period in my lifetime, I was amazed by the optimism and spirit of service that Roosevelt was able to inspire during a very difficult time. Fund and his ilk are such small people in comparison.

  74. 74.

    Montysano

    @soonergrunt:

    Things like this is why I detest conservatism and conservatives. Any ideology that must use lies to sustain itself is not worthy of consideration.

    FTW

  79. 79.

    MikeJ

    @Montysano: And I posted this last week, but since you brought up Roosevelt inspiring people, here’s what wiki says about the early rollout of the new design of dimes:

    The dime was released to the public on January 30, 1946, which would have been Roosevelt’s 64th birthday. Sinnock’s design placed his initials (“JS”) at the base of Roosevelt’s neck, on the coin’s obverse. His reverse design elements of a torch, olive branch, and oak branch symbolized, respectively, liberty, peace, and victory.
    ___
    Controversy immediately ensued, as strong anti-Communist sentiment in the United States led to the circulation of rumors that the “JS” engraved on the coin was the initials of Joseph Stalin, placed there by a Soviet agent in the mint.

    For ye have the wingnut with you always…

  80. 80.

    Ash Can

    @Keith G:

    Love me some Jason Werth, btw.

    Good player, but someone needs to take one of those dugout towels and wipe that shit off his chin.

    …Oh, wait. That’s facial hair. Nevermind.

  81. 81.

    Ash Can

    @Kris:

    I just don’t get why anyone listens to this wife beater(John Fund) about anything.
    __
    This is a man who threw his wife across the room because she wouldn’t have sex with him.

    It’s a feature, not a bug.

  83. 83.

    Elie

    MikeJ:

    Thanks for the historical reminder of how little we have changed…sigh

    That old reptilian R formation just seems to get stronger and stronger instead of weakening…

  84. 84.

    Martin

    @Nellcote:

    Maybe I’ll try tattooing the social security number in as a last resort suggestion. I’ll credit Reagan with first suggesting the idea before the 1984 election out of concern that illegal Cuban immigrants were going to sweep Mondale into office.

  85. 85.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    Ya’ll are missing the point. The wingnuts are just going with the founding fathers. Hence the “electoral college” sure nowadays it is tied to the popular vote, but the FF didn’t want the regular joes voting for POTUS cause they figured that they were too stupid to know who to vote for, so they created the electoral college, the repugs just want everything to go back to 1776 and everything would be just dandy, to hell with that whole popular vote thingy.

  86. 86.

    Martin

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    I wonder if we can get a wingnut backlash against the electoral college by suggesting that Obama wants to restore the founders original intent of having the electoral college (which as every student of history knows is comprised of college and university professors) elect the 2012 president rather than the masses.

    We know that none of them will fact check any of it, and it ties in nicely with the ‘libruls professors indoctrinating our kids’ paranoia which we haven’t heard much of lately. I bet Glenn Beck gets 6 months out of it.

  87. 87.

    mak

    Given the republikan propensity for projection of late, the dems ought to start checking the trunks of republikan cars for boxes of absentee ballots.

    On the bright side, this dreck did appear in the (virtual) pages of the WSJ, the soon-to-be ‘MySpace’ of ‘murican newspapers.

  89. 89.

    Comrade Darkness

    So, a la Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II, has Obama wholesale replaced the DOJ or not? Or is Fund actually complaining about Bush II’s DOJ which is still in place?

  90. 90.

    Wile E. Quixote

    Hey, can I help ACORN and the greasers steal the election from Chris Christie too? I mean the guy’s a dick, I’d be honored to help steal an election from him. I want him to lose by a huge margin and cry and whine and piss himself.

  91. 91.

    timb

    @Cerberus: They would have to come back. They had no industrial base and a feudal economic system, ruled by an oligarchy of bastard elites who were half educated. The only great schools were in the North, so they would have been further left behind by Industrial Revolution. Their country would have been Mexico with South African apartheid!

    Wouldn’t be ironic to see the Sean Hannity’s of the world decrying the illegal immigration of a bunch of white hillbillies into Merica!

  92. 92.

    Demo Woman

    John Fund and all the other right wing assholes can burn in hell as far as I care.
    My son got a call today about a biopsy done last week and the news was not good. What he has is not curable but treatable
    and hopefully he can go on with his life. He has non hodgkins low lymphoma He’s working on a project out of state and tomorrow, I am going to pick up the results. At that time I am going to send them to a friend who knows more about this than he or I do and hopefully it’s just a mistake.

    Anyway he wants the Phillies to win and Atlanta to win’
    FYI, I’m a basket case.
    By the way some times life sucks.

  93. 93.

    Martin

    @Comrade Darkness:

    Obama largely did, but interestingly, he’s hired back on a number of the USAs that Bush fired. That also means that they are USAs that Bush originally hired.

    I think that might be enough to confuse the wingnuts past the point that they can figure out what to do.

  95. 95.

    Ash Can

    Largely OT but not entirely:

    I’ve heard it said that the definition of chutzpah is the schmuck who’s on trial for murdering his parents who throws himself on the mercy of the court on account of the fact he’s an orphan. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I give you Joe “You Lie” Wilson, who today lambasted President Obama for not being quick enough on the draw with H1N1 vaccine, and who, just a few months ago, voted (along with 95% of his fellow lovely and talented House Republicans) against authorizing funds for tackling the looming H1N1 epidemic (ht GOS).

    Now for the real punch line: The guy’s own wife was diagnosed with the disease last week, which prompted him to issue an e-mail urging all his constituents to get vaccinated.

    You Can. Not. Make. This. Shit. Up.

  96. 96.

    Demo Woman

    @Martin: That is what I think happened. They want to take more of his gland under his neck but tomorrow I am sending the results of the original test to another doc. He’s out of town and i just can’t imagine sitting in a hotel room with that kind of news. I just wish hugs could go through the internet.

  98. 98.

    Anne Laurie

    @kay:

    I would wager more conservatives believe there is massive voter fraud than believe Obama was born in Kenya.

    Especially since conservatives define “voter fraud” as letting anyone — but especially non-whites and/or poor people — vote for The Wrong Candidate. Voter restriction is the electoral version of that other conservative standby, the abusive husband: they wouldn’t have to take away our ballots if only we’d stop making them so angry, which we are obviously doing on purpose or we would just shut up that’s why… !

  99. 99.

    Demo Woman

    @Martin: One more thing.. I told not to use google that NIH was ok but nothing else. The first thing he found was life expectancy was 7 to 10 years. That is no longer true these days. He is very healythy . By the way he was in town last Friday when he was suppose to get the results. The DR. canceled. The DR knew he traveled mon thru thru but called him today and said bad news. He had the first test on the 23rd of October.

  100. 100.

    Steeplejack

    @Demo Woman:

    My thoughts are with your son. I was diagnosed with skin cancer and went through purgatory in the days before the lab results came back–it was basal cell carcinoma (walk in the park) vs. melanoma (death sentence). My hope is that his treatment is successful and he can get on with his life.

  103. 103.

    Jean

    @Demo Woman: I hope the results are good. Wise counsel not to Google about disease; it’s always frightening and unnecessarily anxious-making. I worried myself into a frenzy once before a totally uneventful surgery. Another time, a minor tick bite sent me looking at horrific pictures of lyme disease, then into panic. It was nothing. If I had just gone to the doctor right away, I’d have saved myself the hours of worry. Also, one year, suspicious test results ruined my holidays, only to discover later, all was ok.

  104. 104.

    Ruckus

    @soonergrunt:
    Considering all the pain the conservative slant has inflicted on the world I’d say something a little slower acting than a bullet and a lot longer slower decomposition.

  105. 105.

    Ruckus

    And I see that not reading to the end gets me in trouble again with a post that is completely out of sync with the rest of the comments.

    Demo Woman
    Hope your son is alright, that things work out for the best.

  106. 106.

    Sly

    The Working Families Party, which is co-chaired by Acorn head Bertha Lewis, is no stranger to absentee ballot fraud. A special prosecutor in Troy, N.Y. is investigating New York’s September primary, in which at least 38 ballots cast for Working Families Party candidates were thrown out as forged or fraudulent.

    Heavens to Murgatroyd, someone call the riot police.

    If Fund was the kind of person who actually did his homework, he’d write that the situation in Troy has more to do with local machine politics than anything else. But I guess that the discovery of a few dozen misattributed absentee ballots is the same as Tammany Hall, especially when you have an agenda to push.

  107. 107.

    Xenos

    @Sly: And this is the same “ACORN followed the law by submitting all ballots, including the dubious ones” non-scandal that has been so systematically explained, justified, and elucidated that the only reason a pundit would promote it, and the WSJ would publish it, is because they are professional propagandists. This is the ‘Big Lie’ approach to media all over again.

  108. 108.

    Jason

    Yeah, I was swimming around in memeorandum for the first time in a while this morning, following one of your earlier posts, and found somewhere a link to Paul Caron’s “TaxProf Blog” commenting on “92.5% tax rates.”

    So, at the link, he posts two tables from a recent publication in which the tax rates necessary to close the deficit are posted. As the brackets increase, so do the rates, until the top rate peaks at 92.5% for joint filings (74.1% for individual filers). I am not an expert in tax law, nor am I familiar with the Tax Foundation, the organization releasing the pdf from which the numbers are taken.

    Prof. Caron, who seems to be actually an authoritative voice if his credentials are real, and I do not assume they are false, offers the tables with no comment, no context, and no additional context from the Tax Found. report. Are these addenda, are they in service of a point, are they merely a thought exercise – I don’t know. They’re just two tables working with static numbers.

    Assuming a lifespan of one day on memeorandum (blog posted on Nov. 2), how many comments do you think called for a revolution/going Galt/eliminating the Fed/etc. based on purely hypothetical numbers that would never in any scenario be proposed as a policy solution, even if you wanted it to be? Pretty much all of them! So thinks don’t actually have to happen for somebody to pick up their guns. Or their Cheetos, I guess.

  110. 110.

    soonergrunt

    @Demo Woman: Sounds like a doctor with lousy bedside manner. Some doctors just can’t deliver bad news, so they avoid it if they can.

    @Ruckus:
    Yeah, but then you’d have to listen to more moranic babbling.

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    liberal

    @Jason:

    …nor am I familiar with the Tax Foundation…

    They’re generally respected, but if you look closely, there’s definitely a bit of a right-wing anti-tax slant to their stuff.

    I wouldn’t trust anything coming out of there w/o confirmation by other parties.

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    Leelee for Obama

    @Demo Woman: Hope your son’s health is restored soon-I will keep you in my thoughts. That has to be the hardest thing a parent has to handle-but there is so much research on different cancers, hopefully this is one of them. Hugs.

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    aimai

    Demo Woman, just in case you are still reading: I’ll be keeping you and your son in my thoughts. Try not to let all the information that will be coming at you drown you. Just stay calm and focused on what you need to do to keep your spirits up, and your son calm. Other people will step up and help you on this difficult journey.

    aimai

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    IndieTarheel

    @Xenos:

    And this is the same “ACORN followed the law by submitting all ballots, including the dubious ones” non-scandal that has been so systematically explained, justified, and elucidated that the only reason a pundit would promote it, and the WSJ would publish it, is because they are professional propagandists.

    I could swear we’ve seen this sort of thing before. In one of the European countries, perhaps? Wait, don’t tell me…

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    bob h

    Brisk business at my Essex County, NJ polling station today (normally Democratic). Hard to know what it means, but something is in the air.

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