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You are here: Home / Well, What If There Is No Tomorrow? There Wasn’t One Today.

Well, What If There Is No Tomorrow? There Wasn’t One Today.

by John Cole|  November 2, 20091:02 pm| 125 Comments

This post is in: Clown Shoes, Wingnut Event Horizon

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Every day is the same on the wingnut blogs:

A new video of Jeremiah Wright has surfaced, showing Barack Obama’s pastor of 20 years praising Marxism and discussing his ties to communists in El Salvador and Nicaragua and the Libyan government. Equally important, Wright is being introduced in the video by Robert W. McChesney, co-founder of Free Press, an organization which has come under scrutiny for its links to the Obama Administration and dedication to the transformation and control of the private media in the U.S.

That would be the same Cliff Kincaid who told CPAC that Obama was not born in the United States.

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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    November 2, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    I hear that the whitey tape will be introduced today, just before the election.

    It’ll definitely be excellent news for John McCain.

    -dms

  2. 2.

    ChrisS

    November 2, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    “Links” to the black man /= the GOP’s nepotism and cronyism.

    Links, apparently, mean anyone who has ever supported Obama, or said kind things about him.

    From the article: “Ironically, McChesney’s Free Press organization has received at least $1 million from the Open Society Institute of billionaire George Soros, a mega-capitalist who seems to have dedicated his life to overturning the system that made him wealthy.”

    That’s some solid writing and thinking.

  3. 3.

    General Winfield Stuck

    November 2, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    I am redefining Peak Wingnut to mean- the limit to this shit a human person can withstand.

  4. 4.

    Travis_esq

    November 2, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    This Robert McChesney?

    Clearly the dictatorship of the proletariat is at hand! Also.

    Though, once he’s named as our new Czar of Propaganda, he’ll never have time to earn another Utne Reader prize.

  5. 5.

    General Winfield Stuck

    November 2, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    And some days, I even wonder if we need to define Peak Libtard, if such a thing in fact exists.

  6. 6.

    R-Jud

    November 2, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck: I reached my Peak Wingnut right around Dijongate, personally.

  7. 7.

    General Winfield Stuck

    November 2, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Maybe when Mein Furher Palin is sworn in.

  8. 8.

    SpotWeld

    November 2, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Is this an acutal tape, or has the right wing blogosphere moved on to useing “videotape” as a metaphore for um… mustard?

  9. 9.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    November 2, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck: Oh, peak libtard does exist in potentia, but it’s not been much of a threat for a few decades. Once the political pendulum swings far enough away from the 1980-present lurch to the right, it might be a thing to watch.

  10. 10.

    MikeJ

    November 2, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    And some days, I even wonder if we need to define Peak Libtard

    It’s the same thing as peak wingnut, they’re just ashamed to call themselves republicans.

  11. 11.

    r€nato

    November 2, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    I kin haz MaKain fur preznit nao?

  12. 12.

    MikeJ

    November 2, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    showing Barack Obama’s pastor of 20 years praising Marxism

    Probably reading Acts of the Apostles:

    Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

  13. 13.

    Ash Can

    November 2, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    According to the logic of these blithering idiots, I personally have ties to the dreaded old Stasi of East Germany because one of my friends in grad school was a visiting scholar from Leipzig.

    Seriously, sometimes these guys are so gawdalmighty stupid they go right past the point of amusing and straight into the wastebasket of irredeemably tiresome.

  14. 14.

    Aaron

    November 2, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    If this guy had any knowledge of El Salvador, Nicaragua, or the work of Bob McChesney, perhaps he would have some credibility.

    As it is, however, it just appears that he is a reactionary who is flailing around in the shallow end of the pool.

  15. 15.

    wilfred

    November 2, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    …and dedication to the transformation and control of the private media in the U.S.

    What? What?

  16. 16.

    scav

    November 2, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck: I’m just trying to channel my inner Eddie Izzard and think of this as 7 weeks of continuous marathons one after another and refusing absolutely to explicitly equate weeks with any other known unit of time. It hurts slightly less if you remember that things stopped making sense a while ago and resort to giggling uncontrollably at the results.

  17. 17.

    r€nato

    November 2, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    @Xecky Gilchrist:

    The extreme Left did get pretty wacky in the late 60s/early 70s, but that was a long, long time ago. I think everyone under the age of 60 is fucking tired as hell of ripping off the scabs and re-fighting those culture wars. Whenever you hear O’Reilly or some other right-wing media gasbag hollering about ‘the far left wackos’, they are really talking to their rapidly aging audience which was traumatized by the riots and hippies and free love and drugs and war protests and so on.

    On the other hand, today and for the last 15 years at least, the extreme Right has a huge megaphone and more than a little mainstream media respectability. Hell they even have their own cable TV ‘news’ channel.

  18. 18.

    Zifnab

    November 2, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    A new video of Jeremiah Wright has surfaced, showing Barack Obama’s pastor of 20 years praising Marxism and discussing his ties to communists in El Salvador and Nicaragua and the Libyan government. Equally important, Wright is being introduced in the video by Robert W. McChesney, co-founder of Free Press, an organization which has come under scrutiny for its links to the Obama Administration and dedication to the transformation and control of the private media in the U.S.

    Oh no! With a revelation like this, Obama will never get elected President!

    @Ash Can: According to the logic of these blithering idiots, I personally have ties to the dreaded old Stasi of East Germany because one of my friends in grad school was a visiting scholar from Leipzig ZOMG! SOCIAMALISM!

    If you have an (R) in front of your name, it proves your foreign policy credentials and demonstrates how much the rest of the world loves your conservative policies. If you have a (D) in front of your name, it proves how you’re a Soviet Era sleeper agent sympathizer who is plotting to destroy mom, baseball, and apple pie.

    Just another variation on IOKIYAR and the corollary – if you’re not a Republican it’s not OK.

  19. 19.

    Ash

    November 2, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    The extreme Left did get pretty wacky in the late 60s/early 70s, but that was a long, long time ago.

    Yeah, but they were all high at the time. Today’s wingnuts are technically of sound mental health and generally sober. That is more terrifying.

  20. 20.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    November 2, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Nice. They even got Bernie Sanders, Van Jones, and Noam Chomsky mentions in that one article. Throw in some Sandista, mix it with a bit of Castro, and, voila! That’s quite a wingnut martini they got going on there.

    Will Hugo Chavez be upset when Obama calls to tell him he got left out of the piece? Sigh. Even the wingnuts aren’t perfect. Maybe peak wingnut is theoretically possible, but I just don’t think it will ever quite happen in the real world.

  21. 21.

    PurpleGirl

    November 2, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    …dedication to the transformation and control of the private media in the U.S.

    Does he mean Rupert Murdoch, right? He who became an American Citizen so he could expand his media holdings.

  22. 22.

    handy

    November 2, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Re: the post title, I love that movie.

  23. 23.

    Rick Massimo

    November 2, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    OMG I totally take back my vote for Obama and we all should and then the Supreme Court and the Army will call the election off and name McCain president and he won’t want it so Palin will be president.

    This is the only possible logical course of action. Otherwise, the entire American system will be compromised and illegitimate.

  24. 24.

    Lavocat

    November 2, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    With NIN’s “Every Day Is Exactly The Same” on endless loop as a soundtrack.

  25. 25.

    Scruffy McSnufflepuss

    November 2, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    That’s an awesome Groundhog Day reference, John.

    That movie’s hilarious.

  26. 26.

    Brick Oven Bill

    November 2, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    I was reading the tabloid in the check out aisle while waiting to purchase an 18-pack of Coors Light for a get-together yesterday. I am learning to box.

    Tabloids have a better track record than the New York Times lately. See John Edwards. I forget the name of the tabloid, but the story was on pages 10 and 11 and is introduced on the cover. Go observe this story yourself next time you are at the grocery store.

    Anyway, this tabloid said that Obama recently went into a fit at the White House, and made Michelle cry. The source was reportedly someone from inside the White House. The subject of the fit was basically that people did not like him.

    This could perhaps be our first official Nicholas Cage Moment (NCM). The tabloid attributed three reasons for this potential NCM:

    1. The loss of the Olympic Games.
    2. Glenn Beck.
    3. Criticism over the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Glenn Beck was first introduced to America as the new FOX Alpha on Balloon Juice. This was after live-blogging his first debate with O’Reilly. Now he is on a plane with Alfred Nobel and Zeus.

  27. 27.

    PurpleGirl

    November 2, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    MikeJ — Is that passage from the 1611 King James Version of the Bible? You know that, according to Pastor Marc Grizzard of Amazing Grace Baptist Church, any other version is a perversion of the Bible and is wrong. (Grizzard is the loon who held a Bible burning of non-KJV Bibles, among other books, on Halloween. (Video coming at their web site in a few days!))

  28. 28.

    Zifnab

    November 2, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill: Birdzilla? Is that you?

  29. 29.

    freelancer

    November 2, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    @handy:

    “Can I get another one of these with some booze in it?

  30. 30.

    linda

    November 2, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    at the bottom of the page…lol:

    Commenting is not available in this weblog entry.

  31. 31.

    Tim Fuller

    November 2, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    That gang rape in California that I speculated might have been revenge oriented toward a snitch due to the vagaries of inner city ‘community standards’?

    The 15-year-old victim was a vulnerable girl who attended church and wanted to be a police scout, but also worried counselors by trying too hard to please the school’s bad boys.

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/01/MNR41ACRGU.DTL

    Enjoy.

  32. 32.

    ruemara

    November 2, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    these people inspire me to hit booze at 8 am sharp without stopping for tea.

  33. 33.

    Nellcote

    November 2, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    @r€nato:

    The extreme Left did get pretty wacky in the late 60s/early 70s, but that was a long, long time ago.

    Code Pink performed bloody anti-war street theater for the military families waiting in line for trick-or-treat at the White House the other night.

  34. 34.

    Woodrow "asim" Jarvis Hill

    November 2, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    Look who the pie filter caught dragging his lazy butt back in.

    In post-related news: They are really going to spend the next x years trying to pull a Bill Clinton on Obama, aren’t they?

  35. 35.

    The Moar You Know

    November 2, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Code Pink performed bloody anti-war street theater for the military families waiting in line for trick-or-treat at the White House the other night.

    @Nellcote: Oh, hooray. Code Pink, the Phelps family of the left.

  36. 36.

    Zam

    November 2, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    @Nellcote: So I assume this means news coverage will be running with the headline “Does Obama have a problem controlling his base?” or perhaps “Out of control left and their hold on the President”

  37. 37.

    Violet

    November 2, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    They never think of anything new. Wake up, drink coffee, call Obama a Marxist soshulist, [insert dog whistle word here] who wants to send your children to re-education camps to force them to be gay and abort all their babies. Oh, and he hates the troops.

    It’s boringly predictable.

  38. 38.

    freelancer

    November 2, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    @Nellcote:

    Penn and Teller’s BS did an episode on World Peace, where one of the producers followed Code Pink around for a couple days. Bunch of insecure loons that accomplished nothing, but cheered because it wasn’t about stopping the war, for them it was about a pathological need to feel better about themselves. It was embarrassing to watch as someone who was also against the war in 2003.

    Then, they also talked to a group of wingnuts headed by a woman who said we needed to be bombing everyone who didn’t agree with us. She made the Pinkers seem as sane as Andrew Bacevich. Sure the left can be looney, but the mainstream right is pant-shitting, bed-wetting, sociopathic ,stone cold fucking nuts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed4t8yC6uR0

  39. 39.

    Xenos

    November 2, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Glenn Beck was first introduced to America as the new FOX Alpha on Balloon Juice. This was after live-blogging his first debate with O’Reilly. Now he is on a plane with Alfred Nobel and Zeus.

    Are they flying to Cleveland? There has got to be a punch line buried in all that verbiage.

  40. 40.

    Dave L

    November 2, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    “Communists in the Libyan government…”

    – “Communists”?

    – “government”?

  41. 41.

    Violet

    November 2, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    @Nellcote:

    Code Pink performed bloody anti-war street theater for the military families waiting in line for trick-or-treat at the White House the other night.

    They’re so disgusting.

    Does anyone take Code Pink seriously? I don’t see them getting a lot of press. I can’t recall hearing about them on any kind of mainstream news show, like a nightly news show or maybe a morning infotainment like Today. Except when they disrupted a presidential speech or something like that.

    Those same shows spent quite a bit of time giving the frothing-at-the-mouth town hall crowd free publicity and even reported on the teabagger events a little bit.

  42. 42.

    Brachiator

    November 2, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    Every day is the same on the wingnut blogs

    And the only rational reaction to this is, perhaps, Crazy Fatigue.

    This Modern World had a great cartoon on it here or here.

  43. 43.

    Nellcote

    November 2, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    @freelancer:

    Sure the left can be looney, but the mainstream right is pant-shitting, bed-wetting, sociopathic ,stone cold fucking nuts.

    Can’t argue with that!

    But I can still be pissed that Code Pink spends so much energy being so counterproductive.

  44. 44.

    licensed to kill time

    November 2, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    Glenn Beck was first introduced to America as the new FOX Alpha on Balloon Juice. This was after live-blogging his first debate with O’Reilly. Now he is on a plane with Alfred Nobel and Zeus.

    Except Beck’s in the cargo hold, sedated in a crate with “Danger! Infectious Cargo, Do Not Approach Cage!”

  45. 45.

    licensed to kill time

    November 2, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    @licensed to kill time:

    … stickers plastered all over it.

    (edit button, WTFAY!!)

  46. 46.

    Brick Oven Bill

    November 2, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    It is odd that the man, who spoke before the Greek columns, was rejected by the Olympic Committee, coming in last place. Resulting in an ego-problem rivaling that posed by Glenn Beck, according to the grocery-store tabloid.

    Behold the capitals of columns.

    One theory I have is that the Olympic Committee asked Obama what type of capital was used for his Greek columns at the DNC Convention. This would have been a good question, as the wrong answer would have revealed him to be engaging in false rhetoric.

    Obama’s Greek columns were of course of the Doric Order. Observe also Axlerod directing, Obama smiling, and Gibbs wondering, in the second photo from the top.

  47. 47.

    Nellcote

    November 2, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    Glenn Beck was first introduced to America as the new FOX Alpha

    This was after Nancy Grace totally kicked his ass in the ratings at CNN HDL.

  48. 48.

    Phoenix Woman

    November 2, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Funny how the Cons are trying to get TradMedia folks all het up again about the Rev. Wright. Meanwhile, the TradMedia seems bound and determined to join the Cons in ignoring the prominent presence of neo-Nazis in the anti-immigration movement:

    …it wasn’t as if Ecker and his fellow Republicans shouldn’t have known about Sam Johnson.

    He has, after all, been in the Minnesota news a lot lately. For instance, earlier this month he led a protest in Minneapolis outside a local YWCA, which was holding a diversity seminar, that was attended only by Johnson and three of his fellow neo-Nazis — and several hundred counter-protesters. As you can see in the video above (compiled from YouTube videos shot at the event), the crowd not only shouted them down, but followed them to their car, and chanted “Don’t come back!” as they pulled away.
    Johnson has also been at the center of a controversy involving NSM’s attempts to hijack the war veterans memorial in Austin, Minn.

    Of course, we’ve been warning for a long, long time that the immigration debate has become a major recruiting device for racist radicals, enabled in large part by mainstream conservatives, including those in the media, who not only have blithely ignored the overpowering presence of real racist and nativist elements on their side of the debate, but in fact have blithely and even eagerly used these racists’ talking points and claims (such as the supposed “Aztlan” conspiracy) to try to buttress their own positions.

    What we get in reply, consistently, is the high-pitched whine that “we just want to discuss immigration, and you call us racist for just doing that.” (See esp. Lou Dobbs in this regard.)

    The answer, as we can see from this case, is simple: “No, we want to debate immigration without the racism too. But when you use racist arguments and empower radical racists in making them and promoting them, well, we’re not the folks bringing racism to the table.”

  49. 49.

    Nellcote

    November 2, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    HDL=HLN

  50. 50.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    November 2, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    @r€nato: Indeed, which is why I say they haven’t been much of a problem for a few decades. I’m always mindful that the nastiness could come back, as remote a possibility as it seems right now.

  51. 51.

    Phoenix Woman

    November 2, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    (Crap. In my last message, everything after the first blockquoted paragraph should have been part of the blockquote. Agggrrrrh.)

  52. 52.

    Shell

    November 2, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    How come they didn’t find a way to shoe-horn ACORN into this?

  53. 53.

    freelancer

    November 2, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    @Nellcote:

    No, I know. I don’t think you’re concern trolling.

    Re: Pinkers, I don’t know if there’s a bigger group of people I want to be screaming “Stay off my side!” to.

    OT – Kaplan Daily WTF moment of the day.

  54. 54.

    Erik Vanderhoff

    November 2, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    Was the price of B.O.B.’s re-admittance that he make less sense than usual?

  55. 55.

    area man

    November 2, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    I’m still waiting on my motherfuckin’ Whitey Tape and my motherfuckin’ iced tea over here. I’ll be happy to entertain the new fauxtrage when those items are delivered.

  56. 56.

    Brachiator

    November 2, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    @Phoenix Woman:

    Of course, we’ve been warning for a long, long time that the immigration debate has become a major recruiting device for racist radicals, enabled in large part by mainstream conservatives, including those in the media, who not only have blithely ignored the overpowering presence of real racist and nativist elements on their side of the debate, but in fact have blithely and even eagerly used these racists’ talking points and claims (such as the supposed “Aztlan” conspiracy) to try to buttress their own positions.

    I’m just not getting any “overwhelming presence” of racists in the immigration debate. And the “debate” itself has died down in the face of a bad economy. It’s hard to get worked up over a story about an immigrant who went back to Mexico who theoretically might have taken a U.S. job that doesn’t even exist anymore.

    And few things are more fun than listening to open border libertarians and closed border nativists collide.

  57. 57.

    PaulW

    November 2, 2009 at 2:34 pm

    How come they didn’t find a way to shoe-horn ACORN into this?

    Because everyone already knows ACORN is involved. ACORN is ALWAYS involved. ACORN is responsible for your cereal getting too soggy this morning. ACORN is responsible for white college boys getting self-starter jobs as street pimps. ACORN is responsible for the Kennedy Assassination (which one? PROBABLY ALL OF THEM). ACORN is responsible for Poland invading Germany on the morning of Sept. 1, 1939. ACORN is responsible for Eve biting the Apple.

    ACORN is Anti-Life. DIE FOR DARKSEID.

  58. 58.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill: Thanks for the citation, but you forgot to mention which supermarket. The Enquirer has a fairly good track record. The others, like the ones with alien invasion announcements, not so much.

    And did I mention that I think you really are a, if not The, Joker?

  59. 59.

    Adam

    November 2, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    I’m trying figure out when the wingnuts will realize that the attacks on Candidate Obama will not stick to President Obama. Every day that goes by with out the U.S. becoming Marxist and Communist weakens the attacks.

  60. 60.

    licensed to kill time

    November 2, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Well, what if there is no Moon (coverage) tomorrow? There wasn’t one today :

    This month, the Reverend Sun Myung Moon went to Washington to introduce As a Peace-Loving Global Citizen, his autobiography that, according to the Moon-owned Washington Times, “recounts the joys and challenges, the teachable moments and the monumental experiences of his life – much of it spent as a spiritual leader”.
    __
    The newspaper reported that Moon received “congratulatory greetings” from Senator Joe Lieberman, former secretary of state Alexander Haig and former president George H W Bush, “hand-delivered by his son Neil Bush”.

    linky

  61. 61.

    gnomedad

    November 2, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    @ChrisS:

    George Soros, a mega-capitalist who seems to have dedicated his life to overturning the system that made him wealthy.

    Clearly, criticizing capitalism is logically impossible. If you’re not rich, you don’t know what you’re talking about, and if you are, you’re a traitor.

  62. 62.

    licensed to kill time

    November 2, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    I swear I did the underscore thingy right.

  63. 63.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Maybe somewhat OT, but it has to do with a video and is definitely of interest to the formerly banned spoof entity. A friend of mine recently received this masterpiece of Biblical cryptanalysis. (The link is to a takedown of the analysis, the video has to be seen to be disbelieved.)

    Spoiler: At 3:02, the video contains an on-screen note:
    “HEBREW WORD USAGE CONFIRMED! Rabbi Dan Ehrenkrantz, President of the Reconstructionist Rabbinical College, in Wincote, PA – in a Salon.com article – 7-31-09 Hebrew for LIGHTNING from the HEIGHTS = ‘barak U (b)vamah”

    Only the referenced Salon article says:
    “They want to say it would be pronounced ‘Ubamah,'” says Rabbi Dan Ehrenkrantz, president of the Reconstructionist Rabbinical College, in Wyncote, Pa. “No — it would be ‘Uvamah.'” The YouTube video’s narrator is correct that the Hebrew letter vav would have to become a “u” or “o” sound, but the letter that the word “bamah” starts with would also have to shift, to a “v” sound. “It doesn’t hold up even within its own silly logic,” Ehrenkrantz says.

  64. 64.

    General Winfield Stuck

    November 2, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    And so returns BoB.

    One hell of a morning has turned into a bitch of a day!

    Now, If I could land betwixt Kathleen Turner’s legs, the day might still turn up aces.

  65. 65.

    freelancer

    November 2, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Completely OT – EVERYONE GO READ TAIBBI, RFN!

    If you didn’t know any better, if you didn’t know what that you were watching wasn’t an overdose of strong uppers but simple garden-variety stupidity mixed with severe stress, you’d have thought Sarah Palin’s breathless, rambling resignation speech a few weeks back was one the great public performances in the history of recreational narcotics – a masterpiece on par with Dock Ellis’s 1976 LSD-aided no-hitter and Britney’s seminal 2007 MTV Awards “comeback” performance.
    …
    Why did Sarah quit? This is the question that the national political press will surely spend a good part of the next two years debating, until Palin inevitably resurfaces in February of 2011 buoyed by her inevitable hot bestseller (I, Sarah Palin, Goes Washington), by the inevitable rave reviews at whatever no-show, dingbat job she ends up taking (Liberty University Athletic Director? American Idol judge?), and by the fifty or sixty million in quietly-collected search committee money we all know is already being arranged.

    It gets better from there.

  66. 66.

    Brick Oven Bill

    November 2, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    It is a local chain, which I am not willing to reveal at this time, as this may further compromise my secure, undisclosed location. But it was one of those big grocery-store tabloids, and, when I go to town later today, I will buy a copy for you Chad.

    Based on these images, I believe that the tabloid account was most likely accurate. The statement accompanying them is also revealing:

    “Just because I’m skinny doesn’t mean I’m not tough.”

    I try to imagine a previous President making that statement, and cannot. My teacher would yell at me if I said something like that. When you are winded, you cannot show it. Breath loudly out the nose, sounding like a bull, as all competition starts in the minds of men.

  67. 67.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 2, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    If Obama is a Marxist, he sucks at it. Is it too much to ask for Marxists that act like fucking Marxists instead of capitalist dogs? And while we’re dreaming, can we get Democrats that act like Democrats instead of Republicans and Republicans that act like Republicans instead of fascists?

    I know, I’m all like pie in the sky.

  68. 68.

    Phoenix Woman

    November 2, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    @freelancer:
    Maha of the Mahablog has pointed out repeatedly that the hippies of the late ’60s rejected every single rule Dr. King had his marchers follow in his very successful civil rights marches:

    — Size matters. The March on Washington showed Americans hundreds of thousands of black people, all in one place. That’s a powerful statement in itself.

    — Deportment matters. Dr. King made sure the marchers all showed up in their very best go-to-meeting clothes, and carried professionally-printed signs. This was treated with all the seriousness of a job interview, and White America saw this and was favorably impressed. There were no clowns, no puppets, no street theater stunts.

    — Unity of purpose matters. All of the people attending the CR marches were there for one reason: to advance the cause of civil rights in America. Nobody was allowed to hijack the march and thus dilute the message.

    — Not being dickweeds matters. The civil rights marchers, by staying nonviolent, had the moral high ground. They didn’t so much as yell a cuss word, much less smash a window or a cop’s face, even when Bull Connor set the dogs on them. White Americans saw well-mannered people in their Sunday best being teargassed by cops and their sympathies went out to the victims.

    The fact that liberal activism has floundered for over four decades is in large part due to following the examples of the hippies, and not of Dr. King.

  69. 69.

    Doctor Cleveland

    November 2, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    Huh. There actually is a video. From last month.

    So that would be, like eighteen months after Obama publicly washed his hands of Wright?

    That’s a bombshell, right there.

  70. 70.

    Phoenix Woman

    November 2, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    @Brachiator:

    It’s heating up again. Just check out Lou Dobbs’ mainstreaming of anti-immigrant talking points.

    And bear in mind: The anti-immigrant rally — which was heavily promoted by local wingnut media — was organized by a neo-Nazi group that wants to kick out all non-Aryans from America, not just the Spanish-speaking ones.

    This is happening less than a decade after the GOP had been boasting about how they owned the Hispanic vote because Latinos liked the GOP’s conservative social stances. But when being nice to Latinos made Lou Dobbs and Joe Arpaio clear their throats, any hope of GOP outreach to Hispanics was immediately shitcanned. They can’t do anything that risks their hold on certain white (esp. white male) segments of the population.

  71. 71.

    Brick Oven Bill

    November 2, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Let us now consider Obama’s statement before the wisdom and judgment of his Doric Order columns, those that inspired our Founding. Logic is the Third Liberal Art, and comes to us from the Greeks.

    “Just because I’m skinny doesn’t mean I’m not tough.”

    Now Analyze:

    “Just because I’m skinny…”

    Conclusion: You are skinny.

    “…doesn’t mean I’m not tough.”

    Conclusion: No information can be learned from this statement. ‘X’ could be either ‘1’ or ‘2’. Considering the First Liberal Art of Grammar, this is a double negative, which is in most cases poor form.

    Therefore, we understand that the Leader of the Free World is skinny, and twists his words.

    It would have been better to say something like:

    “Check out this picture of me playing basketball, really, check it out.”

  72. 72.

    gnomedad

    November 2, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    @freelancer:

    The other America doesn’t read and doesn’t remember anything it didn’t learn in the last five minutes; it’s angry and unhappy but doesn’t want to think about why, and knows only that it wants someone to pay the price for what it feels.

    Yikes.

  73. 73.

    Brachiator

    November 2, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    And while we’re dreaming, can we get Democrats that act like Democrats instead of Republicans and Republicans that act like Republicans instead of fascists?

    This Modern World cartoon, What if Democrats Behaved More Like Republicans.

  74. 74.

    licensed to kill time

    November 2, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    Conclusion: No information can be learned from this statement of B.o.B.’s.

  75. 75.

    MNPundit

    November 2, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    @Xecky Gilchrist: Jane Hamsher strives mightily for it.

  76. 76.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 2, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    @MNPundit:

    Jane Hamsher strives mightily for it.

    As do all the Jane Hamshers of the Left.

  77. 77.

    valdivia

    November 2, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    @Chad N Freude:

    OMFG. I speak and read hebrew and that is about the most craptastic interpretation I have ever seen. Just wow. Do these people have no freaking shame?

  78. 78.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 2, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    @Brachiator: This Modern World is not funny and only serves as another reason to dislike you.

  79. 79.

    Randy P

    November 2, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill: OK, lemme see if I have the syllogism down here.

    1. A tabloid once printed out a story that turned out to be true.

    2. Therefore all stories in tabloids are true.

    3. Or at least the ones I’d like to think could be true.

    Um, OK.

  80. 80.

    Svensker

    November 2, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    @valdivia:

    Nope. Did ya really have to ask?

  81. 81.

    Brick Oven Bill

    November 2, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Consider last fall Randy P.

    1. I sensed an impending NCM in August 2008.
    2. I have a history of accurate predictions.
    3. The Powers that Be crashed the economy shortly thereafter.
    4. Therefore, the Powers that Be likely sensed the same thing.

    Now, proceed to the present.

    1. Obama now owns the office, and can no longer be made popular by the destruction of wealth, only by its creation.
    2. Obama was told ‘no’ for the first time in his life in Copenhagen. This was difficult for him to process.
    3. Obama is being rightly and accurately mocked by Glenn Beck, and he does not know how to process this sensation, causing confusion.
    4. We read the grocery tabloid reporting Barack yelling, and Michelle crying, the reported distress being that people don’t like Barack.
    5. We see the images of weight loss.
    6. We analyze the speech patterns.

    Therefore, set odds of a JNM (Jack Nicholson Moment) within the month of November at 32%.

  82. 82.

    Randy P

    November 2, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: You wouldn’t be a Mallard Fillmore fan by chance?

  83. 83.

    anie

    November 2, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Is it just me, or is B.O.B. even less coherant than before his bannishment. I would like to advance the theory that B.O.B. is in himself a microcosm of wingnuttia. As the wingnuts become increasingly shrill and incoherant, so does B.O.B. Perhaps he himself could be a test case for Peak Wingnut? We will know that we’ve reached Peak Wingnut when B.O.B. is institutionalized and is mumbling “fascist, soshulist, Marxist” while doing the thorazine shuffle on his way to group therapy. Group therapy suggesting that truth corresponds to actual facts that obtain in the real world!

  84. 84.

    JM

    November 2, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Obama was told ‘no’ for the first time in his life …

    You really didn’t think that one through, did you?

  85. 85.

    Randy P

    November 2, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill: Did that make sense to you before you hit the send button? How about after?

    I gather a general sense of “if Obama says it, I hate it by definition” but I’m afraid I can’t gather any specific meaning from any given sentence there.

  86. 86.

    freelancer

    November 2, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    @Randy P:

    Is he related to Howard the Duck?

  87. 87.

    JM

    November 2, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    George Soros, a mega-capitalist who seems to have dedicated his life to overturning the system that made him wealthy.

    Uh, no. George Soros made his billions demonstrating the irrationality of the markets. That’s why the Randians hate him. He’s the success story that shows they don’t know anything about economics.

  88. 88.

    Brachiator

    November 2, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    @Phoenix Woman:

    It’s heating up again. Just check out Lou Dobbs’ mainstreaming of anti-immigrant talking points.

    As dumb-ass as Dobbs is, his opponents actually help him by insisting on interpreting “anti-illegal immigration” as being the same thing as “anti-immigrant.” And I hear rumblings that Dobbs may leave CNN for Fox, which is where wingnuts go to roost. But if all the wingnuts concentrate themselves at Fox News, does that really count as “mainstreaming?”

    And bear in mind: The anti-immigrant rally—which was heavily promoted by local wingnut media— was organized by a neo-Nazi group that wants to kick out all non-Aryans from America, not just the Spanish-speaking ones.

    One of the reports about this crap noted that “… earlier this month [Sam Johnson] led a protest in Minneapolis outside a local YWCA, which was holding a diversity seminar, that was attended only by Johnson and three of his fellow neo-Nazis — and several hundred counter-protesters.”

    So we have three nutburgers outnumbered by hundreds of counter-protesters. This is something to be watched, but again not evidence of an “overwhelming presence” of neo-Nazis among mainstream conservatives.

    Conservatives have their problems, and the GOP is crumbling under the weight of contradictions. It’s tough to sell atheist Ayn Rand to Christians, it will increasingly become harder for conservatives to flirt with neo-Nazis and claim to be pro-Israel, or for evangelicals to embrace Latino and African Christian congregations (because of their perceived traditional family values stance) and to include racial separatists in their midst.

    But it’s not just about being nice to Latinos (after all, white liberals are often just as condescending to Latinos as are white conservatives), it’s about the GOP deciding what they will be as a party. You correctly note that the GOP used to boast about owning a segment of the Hispanic vote. Are they now going to turn around and expel Bobby Jindal because they now embrace some fetid myth of racial purity? And how could they continue to embrace Sarah Palin, since her husband is part Native American?

  89. 89.

    Brick Oven Bill

    November 2, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    Two of Five of Sun Tzu’s dangerous faults which can affect a General:

    Number Three: a hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults;

    Number Four: a delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame;

    These are the consequence of coddle. These are weaknesses created by warm shelter and kobe beef. In the face of initial challenge, next comes bravado.

    “Just because I’m skinny doesn’t mean I’m not tough.”

  90. 90.

    Randy P

    November 2, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    @freelancer: No, it’s a purportedly-funny conservative cartoon.

    As we’ve learned from Dennis Miller and a host of “funny” conservative T-shirts, the gulf between purportedly-funny and actually funny in rightwingistan is huge and unbridgeable.

  91. 91.

    Ash Can

    November 2, 2009 at 4:19 pm

    @Xenos:

    There has got to be a punch line buried in all that verbiage.

    I think it involves two parachutes.

  92. 92.

    Silver Owl

    November 2, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    Wingnuts are an endless loop of the same old bat shit crazy white people feasting on each other’s irrational bullshit and fears.

    It is not surprising that every day brings yet another emotional breakdown from them, even if it is recycled. If you tell them they recycle that will probably lead yet another emotional break down.

  93. 93.

    Fulcanelli

    November 2, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    @Bong Water Bill: You really don’t want to try and put anybody, least of all Obama, on the Psychiatrist’s couch here on this blog do you?

    This thread will wind up a 500 poster and I don’t think you can type that fast without opposable thumbs, Bill.

    Just cut it out and behave for once.

  94. 94.

    kay

    November 2, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    “The University of Illinois, where Bill Ayres is also employed”…then I stopped reading.

    Notice they never go after the University of Chicago, the place that spawned the very conservative radicals who brought us the last two great money-pit meltdowns.

    You could fill an auditorium with University of Chicago lunatic radical right wingers, but we’re all supposed to quake in fear at two powerless Lefties at the University of Illinois.

  95. 95.

    JM

    November 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Number Three: a hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults;
    Number Four: a delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame;

    … which have what to do with whom?

    Did someone set dumbass on “random”?

  96. 96.

    Brick Oven Bill

    November 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Being confident in my honor, and restrained in my temper, your insults do not affect me Fulcanelli.

    Peace be upon you.

  97. 97.

    Erik Vanderhoff

    November 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    I am prepared to diagnose B.O.B. with Psychotic Disorder NOS pending further inquiry into whether or not he fits a Delusional Disorder (Grandiose Type).

  98. 98.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 2, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    @Randy P: No.

  99. 99.

    JM

    November 2, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    Being confident in my honor, and restrained in my temper

    I’m not sure which is funnier, the idea that dumbass has any honor or that he can restrain himself. The first is absurd and I have personal experience of the second being false.

    Dumbass can’t even get himself right. Then again, self-knowledge might have saved dumbass from being dumbass.

  100. 100.

    Fulcanelli

    November 2, 2009 at 4:33 pm

    @Erik Vanderhoff: I believe Oppositional Defiant Disorder may factor in there somewhere. Also.

  101. 101.

    JM

    November 2, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Great. An autistic troll.

    Just what any blog needs.

  102. 102.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    @valdivia: Where’s Dan Brown when you need him?

  103. 103.

    Persia

    November 2, 2009 at 5:01 pm

    @freelancer: Code Pink is also code for infant abductions in many hospitals. It’s damn confusing.

  104. 104.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    After reading through all of BOB’s posts to this point, I am absolutely convinced that BJ is being played.

  105. 105.

    Erik Vanderhoff

    November 2, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    @Chad N Freude

    They do rather speak to an either brilliant troll-as-performance-art piece or sophisticated chatbot, don’t they?

  106. 106.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    @Erik Vanderhoff: For some reason, your reference to a chatbot made me think of Woody Allen in “Sleeper”.

  107. 107.

    licensed to kill time

    November 2, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    @Chad N Freude: Orgasmatron! Maybe BoB could build one of those in his backyard, it might make him sound more human.

  108. 108.

    slippy

    November 2, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    @JM: Was it ever suspected that Randians knew fuck-all about, pretty much, anything? I mean, except in their own minds, that is. A Randite drone will appear in front of your face and arrogantly behave as if he (and it’s ALWAYS he) is a Great Big Expert on Everything, and then proceed to prove himself wrong repeatedly and get very irate as they fail to convince anyone but another Randite of the air-tight logic of their arguments (sic). But, no Randite has ever actually WON an argument on any important subject. They’ve only succeeded in boring all the bystanders to DEATH, which gives them the last word. To them, that’s WIN. To the rest of us, it’s just NOT UNDERSTANDING LOSING.

  109. 109.

    SFAW

    November 2, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    Where’s Dan Brown when you need him?

    He’s off trying working on his latest attempt to bring home the coveted Bulwer-Lytton Prize.

    I think the only reason he hasn’t won it already is because he’s so well known.

  110. 110.

    SFAW

    November 2, 2009 at 5:56 pm

    Of course, that should have been “He’s off trying working on his latest …” etc.

  111. 111.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    @SFAW: Not necessarily. He could be trying working to see if he likes it.

  112. 112.

    gnomedad

    November 2, 2009 at 6:13 pm

    I thought BOB had been permanently banned. Did DougJ just take over his handle? Probably misses his troll days.

  113. 113.

    gnomedad

    November 2, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    @Fulcanelli:

    Bong Water Bill

    Excellent.

  114. 114.

    handy

    November 2, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    @Chad N Freude:

    Wait…that thought just came to you just now?

  115. 115.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 6:23 pm

    @gnomedad: A possible explanation, but a Robert Langdon-style close symbological analysis indicates that BOB has a different tone and infinitely more pretentiousness and narcissism. But OTOH, DougJ could be pushing his own envelope.

  116. 116.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    @handy: Of course not. I’ve said it before in other threads. It’s just that in this thread, the evidence is more than enough to get a unanimous jury conviction.

  117. 117.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    @licensed to kill time: Brick Orgasmatron Bill? I think we have a winner!

  118. 118.

    licensed to kill time

    November 2, 2009 at 6:32 pm

    @Chad N Freude: That thought – ahem – came to me after I’d posted. I like it, can we have a vote?

  119. 119.

    SFAW

    November 2, 2009 at 6:35 pm

    Not necessarily. He could be trying working to see if he likes it.

    Good point, but I’ve always assumed he works when he “writes”.

    I’ve always assumed that Mario Mendoza was working, and trying, too. Unfortunately for him, and fortunately for Brown, having good skills matters more in baseball than in writing.

  120. 120.

    Chad N Freude

    November 2, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    @SFAW: Depends on how you define “writing”. I was unable to get past the first page of The Da Vinci Code.

  121. 121.

    Sir Nose'D

    November 2, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    When I woke up this morning I was an Obama supporter. Now having seen the Jeremiah Wright video, I have decided to go balls-to-the-wall full-frontal-wingnut.

    OBAMNUNIST!! OBAMNUNIST!!!!!

    That is all.

  122. 122.

    SFAW

    November 2, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    I was unable to get past the first page of The Da Vinci Code.

    You ain’t doing it right. I’ve found that dropping about 10 ‘ludes, followed by repeatedly slamming my head against a brick wall, gets me in “The Zone” for his stuff.

    As I said, Mario Mendoza no doubt worked hard at his chosen craft, and demonstrated similar proficiency.

    Also.

  123. 123.

    chrome agnomen

    November 2, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    anyone know how that conservapudia bible project is going?

    “in the beginning was the turd…”

  124. 124.

    Thadeus Horne

    November 2, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    @Brick Oven Bill: BoB, your problem is that 18 pack of Coors “beer”.If you stop drinking beaver piss, things will become more clear to you and you will start making rational statements. But, then, you wouldn’t be as much fun, you dork.

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