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You are here: Home / Kristol by the case

Kristol by the case

by DougJ|  November 8, 200912:54 pm| 93 Comments

This post is in: Good News For Conservatives

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No discussion of good news for conservatives is complete without mention of Jon Chait’s excellent compendium of Weekly Standard good news proclamations from 2005-2008, which probably were — and this is no exaggeration — the most disastrous run of years for Republicans in modern political history. Most of it’s a twofer, because not only is it all good news for conservatives, it’s all contrarian good news for conservatives: “Everyone thinks that Bush’s low approval rating/McCain’s poor fund-raising and poll numbers/the American public’s dislike of Sarah Palin is bad for Republicans, but if you look beyond the conventional wisdom of our liberal media overlords, you may be surprised to learn…”

Chait makes a good point about the Standard relative to the National Review.

This sort of argument is actually the signature style of the Standard. A magazine like National Review specializes in making the case for conservative ideas. The Standard’s contribution is to assert over and over that Republicans are succeeding, or at least doing better than you think they are. The idea is to buck up your side and encourage them to keep fighting, in order to ward off the self-defeating psychology of losing.

I think another part of the idea is to get your smart-ass, nonsensical good news talking points repeated by Halperin et al. Nearly every example of Kristol hackery that Chait cites is just a more extreme version of stuff that pundits were saying at the time (Broder’s mythical Bush comeback, Halperin’s insistence Dems would get creamed in the 2006 midterms for example).

Most of the stuff I read on the Corner is not like this; frankly, a lot of it is just too weird to get picked up by mainstream media. The Cornerites write strange things because they believe strange things. Kristol is an unapologetic propagandist.

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  1. 1.

    burnspbesq

    November 8, 2009 at 12:57 pm

    “A magazine like National Review specializes in making the case for conservative ideas.”

    Setting a side for a moment whether that’s actually true, it certainly works as an explanation for why TNR is so thin.

  2. 2.

    sloan

    November 8, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Top story on Weekly Standard right now: The Future Is Bright – A three-part plan for taking advantage of the Obama-Pelosi agenda by Fred Barnes

    Republican conservatives and moderates are at each other’s throats. Tea party populists are furious at President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and aren’t crazy about Republicans either. Democrats haven’t got a clue. There’s talk of a third party. The economy is stagnant as unemployment, now 10.2 percent, climbs. It’s beginning to look like the late 1970s.

    This is good news for Republicans–extremely good news.

  3. 3.

    sloan

    November 8, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    hmmm lemme try that again

    Republican conservatives and moderates are at each other’s throats. Tea party populists are furious at President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and aren’t crazy about Republicans either. Democrats haven’t got a clue. There’s talk of a third party. The economy is stagnant as unemployment, now 10.2 percent, climbs. It’s beginning to look like the late 1970s.

    This is good news for Republicans–extremely good news.

  4. 4.

    sloan

    November 8, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    F%^*ing hell.

    Well the whole thing is a Fred Barnes quote.

    What happened to editing?

  5. 5.

    burnspbesq

    November 8, 2009 at 1:06 pm

    @sloan:

    Well, there it is. If Fred Barnes says it, it must be true.

  6. 6.

    burnspbesq

    November 8, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    In other news, college basketball starts this week. ‘Bout damn time.

  7. 7.

    DougJ

    November 8, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    What happened to editing?

    It’s fucked up. Sorry.

  8. 8.

    licensed to kill time

    November 8, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    @sloan: The future’s so bright, Fred Barnes has gotta wear shades.

  9. 9.

    licensed to kill time

    November 8, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    @licensed to kill time: With the “extremely good news for Republicans” lenses.

  10. 10.

    mistersnrub

    November 8, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Whatever the party holds to be truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party.

  11. 11.

    mistersnrub

    November 8, 2009 at 1:15 pm

    Whatever the party holds to be truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party.

  12. 12.

    Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle

    November 8, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    @sloan: Tea-party populists? How can populism be supported by people like the Koch’s? Sounds like Fred Barnes failed reading comprehension in school.

  13. 13.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    They keep on asserting that the American people don’t want what Obama is selling over and over like it’s true or something.

  14. 14.

    sloan

    November 8, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    Bonus wankery from Michael Barone. This was written on Wednesday, the day after Democrats won the only two house seats up for grabs:

    The 2009 election results are certainly not going to make it easy for Speaker Nancy Pelosi to round up the needed 218 votes for Democrats’ health care bills.

    No comment.

  15. 15.

    gwangung

    November 8, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    @sloan: Which, I suppose, is why new Rep. Owen cast the 218th vote.

    Yeah, world class stupid.

  16. 16.

    Scott H

    November 8, 2009 at 1:25 pm

    The Standard apparently represents the shamanistic shimmy-shake approach to treating metastatic cancer. The Republican Party is caught in a perfect storm of antirational religionists, reactionaries, and bass-ackwards libertarianism (aka glibertarianism). Sad for them – and not even entertaining to witness any longer.

  17. 17.

    MattF

    November 8, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    That Weekly Standard/National Review distinction is interesting… And, needless to say, it’s good news for Republicans.

  18. 18.

    Leelee for Obama

    November 8, 2009 at 1:29 pm

    @Scott H: I hasta tell you, you made me laugh out loud! That was extremely funnyish, and I enjoyed it berry, berry much.

  19. 19.

    MikeJ

    November 8, 2009 at 1:30 pm

    The Standard’s contribution is to assert over and over that Republicans are succeeding, or at least doing better than you think they are. The idea is to buck up your side and encourage them to keep fighting, in order to ward off the self-defeating psychology of losing.

    Which is exactly opposite of what liberal blog comments do for our side. Obama has thrown X under the bus! Obama is the same as Bush! Any bill without everything I want is worse than nothing!

  20. 20.

    Anoniminous

    November 8, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    DougJ:

    2005-2008, which probably were—and this is no exaggeration—the most disastrous run of years for Republicans in modern political history

    But now the leaders of the party: Limbaugh, Armey, Palin, etc. have REALLY taken hold of the reins. Watch the 2010 elections … you ain’t seen nothing yet.

  21. 21.

    Martin

    November 8, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    So, is it fair to say that had the GOP won the two house seats that the bill last night would not have passed? That would have left 217 aye votes out of the Democrats and the bill would have depended on Cao to vote aye – which I cannot imagine he would have made it to the floor of the chamber without a fire axe in his back if he insisted on voting for this.

    So the ‘good news for Republicans’ of last Tuesday are already dispelled 4 days later.

  22. 22.

    sloan

    November 8, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    @Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle: Tea partiers don’t know who the Koch’s are. They think Freedom Works is spontaneous and funded solely by small donors.

    And Barnes seems to honestly believe that “talk of a third party … is good news for Republicans—extremely good news.”

    W.T.F.

    I wonder how failed 1992 candidate two-term President Bill Clinton feels about those third parties.

  23. 23.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    Here are the people that the guys at the Weekly Standard and Eric Cantor have allied themselves with.

    My favorite? “This guy [Elie Wiesel] is a Hebrew Al Sharpton.”

    These are the Tea Baggers that Bill Kristol and Eric Cantor are so fond of.

    Oh, and “Eli Wiesel should just go back to Indonesia.” Too. Also.

  24. 24.

    MattF

    November 8, 2009 at 1:37 pm

    @Martin

    Commentary I’ve seen says that Pelosi gave a pass to red-state Dems who needed to vote against. She got the required Dem majority– and plus one more, just so that Cao wouldn’t get the fire axe. I wouldn’t be surprised to find Cao running independent next year.

  25. 25.

    Leelee for Obama

    November 8, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    I wonder how failed 1992 candidate two-term President Bill Clinton feels about those third parties.

    Shhh! That’s supposed to be our little secret.

  26. 26.

    Davis X. Machina

    November 8, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Tea-party populists? How can populism be supported by people like the Koch’s?

    In America, you can buy virtually anything in the form of a ready-to-go turnkey operation from a specialty contractor.

    It’s what we do, and do well.

  27. 27.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 1:42 pm

    @MattF: How’s that Rush Limbaugh declared Republican Big Tent working out?

    I don’t think its working out for the courageous Mr Cao.

    I guess “zipperhead” is too long for twitter and too difficult for Tea Baggers to spell.

  28. 28.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    Most of the stuff I read on the Corner is not like this; frankly, a lot of it is just too weird to get picked up by mainstream media.

    You mean like Andy McCarthy’s strange obsession with Obama’s birth certificate?

    He was a federal prosecutor, doncha know?

  29. 29.

    New Yorker

    November 8, 2009 at 1:45 pm

    My wingnut uncle keeps sending me negative articles about Al Gore (he’s obsessed with the man for some reason).

    When I got one today, I replied asking why he wasn’t collecting his stuff and getting the kids ready to flee the country. After all, we’re all about to be sent to death camps and healthcare reform is the greatest threat to freedom this country has ever seen (worse than the Soviet Union, apparently).

    I suggested he go to Iraq, since we all know it’s a peaceful, stable, prosperous democracy thanks to George W. Bush. It’s just that the treasonous lib’rul media tells us nothing but bad things because they want us to lose.

    He hasn’t written me back……

  30. 30.

    parksideq

    November 8, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    @sloan: Funny you should mention that; over at Malkin’s rage cage, one of her commenters actually gets it (for the wrong reasons, but still):

    What was the margin of victory for this bill? How many seats did the Democrats pick up recently? If you said “two” to both questions, then you will have to agree that the recent special Congressional elections has had more direct impact on the Nation than did the elections in NJ and VA. Nope, not diminishing the Republican gains, just pointing out that it is intelletually dishonest to hang your hat on saying the country is turnng it’s back on the Democrat [sic] agenda.

    Even broken clocks are right twice a day. Which is good news for conservatives in and of itself.

  31. 31.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    @New Yorker:

    I recommend Somalia. Iraq has too much gubmint to be a modern day Galt Gulch.

  32. 32.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 8, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    @New Yorker: Haha. That’s the sorta shit I do, along with making their lives a liberal hell on Faceborg.

  33. 33.

    WereBear

    November 8, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    It was wild seeing the delusions pile up like a four track train wreck.

  34. 34.

    JK

    November 8, 2009 at 1:55 pm

    @calipygian:

    That was a great link. My favorite “Everyone knows that Obama is George Soros sock puppet.”

    Cao should enter a witness protection program.

  35. 35.

    MBSS

    November 8, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    i think that you guys finding out that all news is good news for the republicans, is good news for the republicans because now that it appears that all cards are on the table it is the perfect time for the gop to brew up their next, even more cunning, scheme.

    conversely this is bad for the dems.

  36. 36.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    @JK: Did you know that Elie Wiesel is now a “Jew in name only”?

    A JINO?

    Really?

  37. 37.

    MattF

    November 8, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    @JK

    ‘Obama is just some white guy’s sock puppet’ is quite a wingnut meme– the white guy might be Soros, or Ayers, or whoever. Somehow, the notion that our lil’ Barry has a mind and a will of his own is just… too much to handle.

  38. 38.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    @JK: And it’s funny how Dems are the REAL anti-Semites, yet Obama takes his orders from George Soros.

    No one says that world views HAVE to be consistent I guess.

  39. 39.

    Mike G

    November 8, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    The Weakly Standard should revert to its orginal name as proposed by Murdoch, The American Standard, before he found out it was a brand of toilet. Much more appropriate.

  40. 40.

    licensed to kill time

    November 8, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    I don’t oppose Kristol. I floccinaucinihilipilificate him.

  41. 41.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    OT, but relevant:

    SEN. HARRY REID: First of all, Joe Lieberman, Joe Lieberman is my friend, and he is a good Democrat, votes with us on everything, except the war. So Joe Lieberman is easy to work with.

    Teh Google has a long memory.

  42. 42.

    AhabTRuler

    November 8, 2009 at 2:16 pm

    We have entered an era of unprecedented postmodernism. If the Bush era was so, it was in that they “created their own reality”. However, we now exist in a world where concept is completely decoupled from meaning.

    It’s a shame that Burroughs couldn’t have lived to see this moment.

  43. 43.

    cleek

    November 8, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    The Standard’s contribution is to assert over and over that Republicans are succeeding, or at least doing better than you think they are. The idea is to buck up your side and encourage them to keep fighting, in order to ward off the self-defeating psychology of losing.

    in the category of GOP fluffers, The Standard’s got nothing on RedState.

  44. 44.

    Bubblegum Tate

    November 8, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    @MattF:

    Obama is just some white guy’s sock puppet’ is quite a wingnut meme

    The icing on the cake is the fact that the same people who bleat the “sock puppet” stuff also believe that Obama is a brutal fascist dictator who will at best merely stick conservatives in internment camps or, at worst, order his “personal army” to eliminate them all.

  45. 45.

    Midnight Marauder

    November 8, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    self-defeating psychology of losing.

    I don’t think there’s a better word that sums up this current, downward-spiraling version of the Republican Party than that. Self-defeating. And this article over at TPM about how they skipped critical votes that would have strengthened the Patriot Act, so that they could instead teabag away to their hearts content on the Capitol steps. I mean, these kids are absolutely clueless and completely unserious.

    And nice to see you around again, JK.

  46. 46.

    burnspbesq

    November 8, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    @Bubblegum Tate:

    The icing on the cake is the fact that the same people who bleat the “sock puppet” stuff also believe that Obama is a brutal fascist dictator who will at best merely stick conservatives in internment camps or, at worst, order his “personal army” to eliminate them all.

    I expect that Makewi and/or Sanka will be here momentarily to explain to you why there is no inconsistency between those two statements.

  47. 47.

    jwb

    November 8, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    @calipygian: I’m really wondering what stops the wingnut wurlitzer has left to play. I mean after they’ve burned through Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, where do they really have to go? I have great faith in the inventive powers of greater wingnuttia, so I won’t by any means proclaim an end in sight, but it does make me wonder if we’ll get anything fundamentally new. (For connoisseurs of the wingnut wurlitzer, the linking of Dachau and health care was surprising and inspired playing, although it was really just finding new expressive possibility on the old Hitler stop.)

  48. 48.

    Tony J

    November 8, 2009 at 2:26 pm

    @Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle:

    Tea-party populists? How can populism be supported by people like the Koch’s? Sounds like Fred Barnes failed reading comprehension in school.

    No, it sounds like Fred Barnes gets paid a lot of money to say stupid things in in words his readership think they understand. It’s his job.

    It’s the ‘lot of money’ bit that’s important, because it crops up so often in any consideration of why the people saying these things do it at all. They get paid to, and the readership doesn’t care as long as the product comes out on time.

    Yes, that does make it like porn, and the trade in illegal drugs. Except in this case it’s not only legal, it’s sold as a patriotic alternative to unpalatable Liberal alternatives like ‘Making good arguments about things you think are important’ and ‘not being a bunch of whacked out loons who whine about the ‘Liberal Media’ whenever they don’t get a pony’.

  49. 49.

    Nellcote

    November 8, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    @calipygian:

    “This guy [Elie Wiesel] is a Hebrew Al Sharpton.”

    I’ve been quite surprised that groups like JDL etc. haven’t been outraged and speaking out about the anti-semitism and abuse of Holucaust imagery at the tea-parties/townhalls. That Dachau poster even shocked me.

  50. 50.

    Tonal Crow

    November 8, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    @jwb:

    @calipygian: I’m really wondering what stops the wingnut wurlitzer has left to play. I mean after they’ve burned through Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, where do they really have to go?

    Clearly to AL GORE, whose “Global Warming” Holocaust is waiting in the wings, ready to swoop down and gut what’s left of us after Pelosi’s historic sellout of freedom!

    The wingnuts’ chorus is more than metaphorically related to the ever-declining musical tone paradox (listen here).

  51. 51.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    I’m really wondering what stops the wingnut wurlitzer has left to play. I mean after they’ve burned through Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, where do they really have to go?

    Pogroms. Malkin and her commentariat are on the verge.

  52. 52.

    AhabTRuler

    November 8, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Liberal alternatives like ‘Making good arguments about things you think are important’

    Well, to be fair, not all of the arguments are good, per se, but at least they are trying.

  53. 53.

    sloan

    November 8, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    @Bubblegum Tate: They’re having a helluva time trying to define Obama in negative terms. He’s a pacifist dictator, an atheist muslim and a socialist fascist communist Marxist Wall St. corporate whore.

    He’s Adolph Hitler and Neville Chamberlain. Quite a trick! Republicans really have no choice but to keep throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. So far they’ve done little but recycle John McCain’s failed 2008 memes.

    Case in point: An aggressive attempt to link (MUSLIM) Obama to (TERRORIST) Ft. Hood shooter. (OMFG 9/11!)

    Look for “policy of appeasement” and “global apology tour” memes to reappear in the next few days.

  54. 54.

    Bubblegum Tate

    November 8, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    OT: Please enjoy this account of Sarah Palin’s address to Wisconsin Right to Life. This account is all you can get because video cameras, recording devices, still cameras, and even cell phones were strictly prohibited. In a super-hilarious touch, strollers were banned. At a right to life rally. Also.

  55. 55.

    Nellcote

    November 8, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    @Midnight Marauder:

    And this article over at TPM about how they skipped critical votes that would have strengthened the Patriot Act, so that they could instead teabag away to their hearts content on the Capitol steps.

    How can we get LaPalin & Bachmann to have a tea party during the senate health care vote?

  56. 56.

    Martin

    November 8, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    @MattF:

    Actually, that makes sense. Nice to see that Pelosi knows how to keep everyone reasonably in line.

  57. 57.

    sloan

    November 8, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    @cleek:

    in the category of GOP fluffers, The Standard’s got nothing on RedState.

    Here’s a blast from the past:

    Dan Perrin dared me to front this. Gladly. Dan, btw, is a Republican strategist, in addition to writing wonky books on health care. — Erick.

    There are seven serious, historic, demographic and other wise culturally compelling reasons Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin will win the election on November 4, 2008 – a date of defeat that will sear itself into the Democratic Party’s collective consciousness.

    Mr. Republican Strategist then goes on a rant about the “feminized, elitist media”, PUMAs and the Bradley effect. And this was only a year ago. It seems like a lifetime ago.

  58. 58.

    Nellcote

    November 8, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    @Bubblegum Tate:

    This account is all you can get because video cameras, recording devices, still cameras, and even cell phones were strictly prohibited.

    LaPalin’s ‘no witnesses’ edicts always make me think of those heroes that stealth recorded concerts for bootleg recordings. Those guys had it down to an art!

  59. 59.

    MikeJ

    November 8, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    @sloan: I love that complaining about the feminized media and counting on PUMAs to save the GOP.

  60. 60.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    @sloan: This is from the article at Red State on why Palin-McCain was a mortal lock.

    In an affirmation of Mark Penn’s observation that the strong leader almost always wins the Presidential election, a mid-west hairdresser with no party affiliation told me the country has very serious problems, and that is why she is voting for the strongest leader.

    LMAOROFL!

  61. 61.

    eric

    November 8, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    The dachau analogy really startled me. I mean come on. These people believe the shoah was all made up as it is. Doug. Nice touch on the lauryn hill.

  62. 62.

    kay

    November 8, 2009 at 3:07 pm

    @MikeJ:

    It’s so encouraging, because PUMA’s as a voting block were wholly media-created.
    I love, love, love that they continue to rely on this stuff.
    They must never change.

  63. 63.

    Scott de B.

    November 8, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    OT: Please enjoy this account of Sarah Palin’s address to Wisconsin Right to Life. This account is all you can get because video cameras, recording devices, still cameras, and even cell phones were strictly prohibited. In a super-hilarious touch, strollers were banned. At a right to life rally. Also.

    Somebody needs to attend one of those events with a camera concealed in a crucifix, then publicly reveal it after the fact. Then, just sit back and watch their authoritarian and Christianist instincts collide.

  64. 64.

    jwb

    November 8, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    @calipygian: “pogroms.”

    So you’re saying that the next step is to revoice the wingnut wurlitzer so that rather than sounding the Hitler, Stalin, Mao stops for Obama and the dems they will instead be mixed back into the wingnut chorus. I agree that it will make a terrible, awesome sound, but it’s not really all that original. In fact, I’m pretty sure it’s a preset: full organ—totalitarian.

  65. 65.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    November 8, 2009 at 3:20 pm

    @MikeJ: In fairness to Sloan, Dana Milbank is a little, uh, prissy.

  66. 66.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Get in the fucking end zone!!

  67. 67.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Ummm, football thread one day?

  68. 68.

    geg6

    November 8, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Corner Stone: No Stillers today. So JC no care. Monday night is the only important game. Also.

  69. 69.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Ok. I’m old – that’s a given. But am I wrong to really be enjoying the Taylor Swift Era?

  70. 70.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    November 8, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    @calipygian: Waaah! Pointing out anti-Semitism is anti-Semitic!

    Christ. This shit always brings the fucking neo-Nazi’s and denialist sons of bitches out of their holes to explain the Holocaust wasn’t really that bad and share their theories on photo-doctoring.

  71. 71.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    @geg6: Don’t get me wrong – I totally dig the photo open threads.
    But, um, cursing and stuff seem to go better on football open threads.

  72. 72.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Super Mario!!
    Fuck you Peytons Place!

  73. 73.

    jwb

    November 8, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    @Corner Stone: Plus, the other football followers don’t know where to find your, um, comments.

  74. 74.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 3:38 pm

    @jwb: Um, here maybe?
    Texans v Colts.

  75. 75.

    jwb

    November 8, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    @Corner Stone: But without a football thread, you have to know to look here to know that football commentary is going on here. Otherwise, people might think we’re talking about Bill Kristol. And why ruin a perfectly good football thread with the presence of Bill Kristol?

  76. 76.

    Mike in NC

    November 8, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    Cao should enter a witness protection program.

    If he flipped parties he’d probably have a lock on that seat for years to come. Can’t imagine the hate mail he’s getting today. Republican outreach to minorities and all that.

  77. 77.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    @jwb: We’re on the same page here jwb.

  78. 78.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Ballgame.

  79. 79.

    jwb

    November 8, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    @Mike in NC: I’m sure the haters are telling him that if he’s going to be a RINO he may as well join the Democrats. Fine by me.

  80. 80.

    4jkb4ia

    November 8, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    OT: NYT story on movie “2012” has the following expert quote:

    “It is not the end of the calendar, by any stretch of the imagination, and the Maya never said anything of the sort,” Dr. David Stuart, a professor in the art and art history department of the University of Texas at Austin, who has studied the Maya since he was a teenager, said in a phone interview. Dec. 21, 2012, is the beginning of a fourth phase, or baktun, (represented by the date sequence 13.0.0.0), in the Maya long-count calendar, but “there’s going to be a fourteenth baktun,” Dr. Stuart said….What the Maya might have done, he added, was project patterns of past baktuns onto the future, “but they’re not really prophecies.”

    I am not sure how Pitt gets to be #8 after beating Syracuse, which was a foregone conclusion, but I’ll take it.

  81. 81.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    Oh, and fwiw, I have a nice beef stew cooking in the crock pot.
    I coated the stew meat with a nice flour/curry/cayenne powder mix, browned it in a sautee pan, then dumped it on top of a yellow onion/carrot/celery (mirepoix) & quatered home grown potatos, and covered with beef stock for 8 hours in the CP.
    It’s actually a soup at this point but I took the flour combo and made a roux out of it after I put the beef into the CP. I’ll thicken it up later.
    It’s going to be the balls. That’s right. Balls.

  82. 82.

    Mark S.

    November 8, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    @jwb:

    And why ruin a perfectly good football thread with the presence of Bill Kristol?

    Why not combine the two?

    Teams rarely recover from 2-6 records, but the Redskins may be on the verge of at least a modest upturn and perhaps a strong recovery. They’ve bottomed out. Crossing the finish line with the worst record in the league may turn out to be a sign of substantive achievement. This is great news for Daniel Snyder.

    Perhaps Kristol missed his true calling.

  83. 83.

    4jkb4ia

    November 8, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    And the Big East was supposed to be nothing this year!

  84. 84.

    4jkb4ia

    November 8, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    @jwb:

    It is a function of districts, but Anh Cao can vote for this thing and Travis Childers appears to be entirely useless outside of voting for spending bills.

  85. 85.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    Who the F throws the ball into the middle with 14 seconds and no timeouts left?
    Missed left. Fuck me.

  86. 86.

    MBSS

    November 8, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    i’ve got money on whichever football team kristol doesn’t pick.

  87. 87.

    jwb

    November 8, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    @MBSS: A sure winner.

  88. 88.

    calipygian

    November 8, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    @Mark S.: Holy shit that’s funny.

  89. 89.

    Ben Richards

    November 8, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    @Corner Stone: that wide left sucked. Two weeks and we get ’em in Reliant

  90. 90.

    Corner Stone

    November 8, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    @Ben Richards: Well, if Peyton throws 40 attempts in the first half next time I’m sad to say we’re prolly just as F’ed.

  91. 91.

    joe from Lowell

    November 8, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    Most of the stuff I read on the Corner is not like this; frankly, a lot of it is just too weird to get picked up by mainstream media. The Cornerites write strange things because they believe strange things.

    Absolutely. I remember reading about Ahmed Chalabi and Terri Schiavo in the Corner before 9/11.

  92. 92.

    Jack

    November 9, 2009 at 8:00 am

    Fred Barnes’ contributions to the genre should not be overlooked.

  93. 93.

    slippy

    November 9, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    @sloan: The link you provided had a hilarious comment:

    From commenter Tom Betz: “Stupak: A medical condition (subset of sepsis) resulting from unsafe – unnecessarily so – back alley abortions as a result of the “Stupak Amendment” to the 2009 Health Care Reform Bill.”

    I think this should go in the BJ lexicon right away.

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