Via the comments, this jerk:
State Sen. David Schultheis said he didn’t intend for a Twitter post accusing President Barack Obama of “flying the U.S. plane right into the ground” and ending with “let’s roll” as a threat or a reference to United Flight 93, which crashed during the 2001 terrorist attacks.
“Let’s roll” reportedly were the last words of Todd Beamer before he and other passengers tried to gain control of their hijacked jet. The plane crashed into a Pennsylvania field short of its intended target.
The tweet stirred ire and some support for the Colorado Springs Republican, whose standard eschewal of political correctness has earned him criticism in the past.
Schultheis’ full tweet Tuesday was: “Don’t for a second think Obama wants what is best for U.S. He is flying the U.S. plane right into the ground at full speed. Let’s roll.”
***Schultheis voted in February against a bill requiring pregnant women to be tested for AIDS to prevent spreading the disease to the children. He said then that infected children would set examples for women against sexual promiscuity.
Just another Colorado Springs evangelical, spreading God’s word.
Redshirt
Today’s Republican = Asshole
D.N. Nation
So, um, hi. Sadly, No! is teetering dangerously toward hiatus, so I’m just looking around. Carry on.
Trinity
The fact that these people make up approximately 20% of our population keeps me up nights.
Ryan
There are no words.
Andy
I believe pre-delivery testing for HIV is mandatory here in Texas. There are well-established protocols for preventing mother-to-child transmission of HIV, which if used properly, reduce the transmission rate to near zero.
scav
speaking of god’s work, what’s the best knot to use for typing someone’s entrails around their windpipe? via TMP
GambitRF
But remember kids, Obama is tarnishing the memory of 9/11 by telling people to do volunteer work.
Redshirt
CO Springs is something like Wingnut Ground Zero, isn’t it? I spent a week out there at the base, but couldn’t get over how southern fried everything seemed. That evil Family Television Council (or whatever) is right up the highway.
ckelly
How long before this sanctimonious asshat is found with young boys and goats? What a disgrace.
Zifnab
@Trinity: You’ve never been in rush hour traffic before, have you? 20% honestly strikes me as a low number.
That said, there’s been a certain coordinated level of assholery that’s beyond the pale. It’s the lockstep assholishness that’s really shocking. Assholes shouldn’t be able to coordinate amongst each other this well.
El Cid
Yes, but in his heart, maybe he intended to do the right thing.
Redleg
Another large bag of douche. I hope the so-called “liberal media” makes as big a deal out of this as they have of much less hateful comments made by Dems. I won’t hold my breath.
Maybe Dr. Krauthammer will coin a term to describe Obama Derangement.
Kennedy
I bet it is also a fitting punishment if they contracted AIDS from a rapist. They were probably asking for it. This will teach them not to be such raging sluts. Also, too.
And while we’re at it, in that instance, I would counsel the women to choose life.
Brick Oven Bill
Compare George Bush to Glenn Beck and you compare Artificial Law to Natural Law. Both men fell to alcohol and later came back, but only one with Wealth and Birth.
This Wealth and Birth sheltered George from what Socrates describes as ‘discord’. Shelter from discord makes a person idealistic, and shallow. Concord is not always good.
Glenn was not sheltered by Wealth and Birth, and is thus learned the lessons that policemen learn, not the lessons that are taught at Yale. The richest guys I know were former cops, this is because they are forced to understand the realities of people.
Ted Kennedy’s kid, Patrick, was also sheltered, but worse. Patrick was three generations sheltered, whereas George’s dad was a no-shit war hero, making George two generations sheltered.
Patrick crashed his car, a Ford Mustang, into the Capitol complex at 3 in the morning, and told Capitol Police that he was showing up for a vote. Patrick said:
“Sometime around 2:45 a.m., I drove the few blocks to the Capitol complex believing I needed to vote… At no time before the incident did I consume any alcohol”
He was not given a sobriety test. This is pretty sheltered.
So anyway, Glenn was not sheltered, and has risen to prominence via Talent and Virtue, not Wealth and Birth. This is in accordance with the ideals of Jefferson, as described in this remarkable paper.
Obama is not of Wealth or Birth, because if his dad would have had any, he surely would have drank it. Obama is a tool of Wealth and Birth and shelters his masters. I cannot get a feel for if he understands the set-up and kind of think he has no idea what is going on.
But the good news is that Talent and Virtue win in the end. They always do. Glenn could very well be the next leader of America.
El Cid
Someone’s on here to beg for attention again. I’ll wager he’ll get it.
aimai
Guess he belongs to the “pro-slow-agonizing-death” party. Its the new name for anti-abortion and anti-HIV treatment.
aimai
Citizen_X
I will gladly donate to a fund to ship HIV-positive gay hookers to Colorado Springs, and ship the clean gay hookers out. If the unlikely event this doesn’t get Schulteis, at the very least it’ll decimate the Focus on the Family staff.
licensed to kill time
George Bush/Glenn Beck – dry drunks.
Ash Can
So that’s what they call being a boorish, loutish, classless asshole these days?
kay
What a coward. Of course he was referring to that flight.
Conservatives are such tough guys, on Twitter. When questioned directly they always run and hide.
MysticalChick
How is it possible people really think that? I mean, really. I know I’m a huge bleeding heart lib and my perspective is skewed by that but really and come on (to quote the Rude Pundit), what is wrong with them?
Facts make absolutely no difference to this group – they’re just going to march along regardless of all evidence to the contrary. Fuckwits.
Is it time for me to go +1 yet???
Elliott
I went to college in the Springs. Here’s what my friend N_____ has to say about it:
The Bearded Blogger
@Brick Oven Bill: Fuck off
Zifnab
@Brick Oven Bill:
You had me at “Pie”.
Morbo
@aimai: In the conservapedia bible, “Suffer the little children” is pointed out as a mistranslation. The correct revised quotation is “Let the little children suffer.”
Violet
@ckelly:
Was wondering the same thing. Can’t be long before he’s found doing something. Sanctimonious jerks like that always seem to have skeletons in the closet.
cleek
isn’t it odd how the loudest “Christians” are also the most mean-spirited and hateful ?
it’s almost as if they’re just assholes who use religion as yet another way to be superior to other people.
required
I don’t understand how this is relevant unless you’re planning to kill babies whose mothers have AIDS. And what is the deal with all these bills requiring people to do things? Maybe we should be requiring the testing of all people for disease and genetic disorders that make them more susceptible to undesirable offspring and then require them to get vasectomies or their tubes tied.
Elliott
And my take:
MikeJ
@Citizen_X: And the Air Farce Academy.
Kennedy
@cleek: Isn’t that what most every organized religion is about at its very core? The use of salvation as a carrot-on-a-stick to force people to adhere to a set of standards and morals (however depraved they may be).
Jen R
@Ryan:
I seem to recall having a few.
General Winfield Stuck
More tough talk from a tight ass wimp with a short worm. The internets are ablaze with this mouthy courage from cringing shadow twerps wanking it to the memory Reagan’s pruned corpse.
BOO motherfuckers!!!
hhaaa haa hah!
Tsulagi
Like wingnutdom, they just keep coming with those peak family values high notes don’t they?
Chad N Freude
This quote from a member of the societal group that believes that believes it is against the will of God to terminate a pregnancy. Apparently God is OK with bringing AIDS-infected children into the world to use as poster children against promiscuity.
The Moar You Know
WOW! He’s not just a Senator, he’s a State Senator!
What’s this loser’s name again? Oh that’s right, it doesn’t matter. He’s a nobody, who has always been a nobody, and will always be a nobody.
Chad N Freude
Colorado Springs is the Haight District of the Evangelicals.
Zifnab
@required:
Mothers with AIDS don’t transmit the disease to their children until actual child birth. Before that point, there are natural filters in place that prevent transmission of the disease between mother and child.
We currently know how to deliver children of infected mothers without risk of infecting the children themselves. This is one of those no-brainer legislative moves that make the world a better place.
Karen S.
@ cleek (27)
I’d agree wholeheartedly with this. They really are sanctimonious jerks, aren’t they?
tc125231
@Brick Oven Bill: What do you use for a brain? Is it the chip from a $2 Taiwanese wristwatch?
SpotWeld
BOB
I’ve talked to your mom, and we’ve both agreed. You have to get off the computer and clean up the basement or else you won’t be allowed to compete in anymore dog costuming pagents.
This is your last warning, and flinging your empty Red Bulls cans at the basement door is not going to be an acceptable responce.
And be sure to come up and tell your mother your sorry, she worries so when you wave that He-Man sword around, she’s convinced you could really hurt yourself with that. (I’ve pointed out that the edges are nice and rounded, but still; she worries).
Also, BOB
Shut Up
That is all.
maus
Worthless and fratboyish beforehand, addled, insane, faux-piety apocalyptics afterwards.
Comrade Mary
You know what absolutely fucking well infuriates me? This part of the newspaper article.
“Political correctness” is the passive aggressive fuckwit of English phrases. The implicit message is that some leftist nanny is blushing and tut-tutting over blunt, free discourse that is insufficiently acceptable according to their own frightened and cramped moral outlook.
Do these nannies exist? Sure. But I can’t count the number of braying asses who apply that label to anyone who doesn’t buy into their Galtian mental wankfest. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen people take pride in being “politically incorrect” rather than, say, showing a modicum of courtesy and human decency when speaking with and dealing with other people.
My rule of thumb is that anyone who uses that term in an unironic fashion has almost certainly stopped thinking and no longer needs to be listened to. Unfortunately, some people have large megaphones and are even paid to disseminate this shit.
So, Jessica Fender of The Denver Post (or, possibly, some editor who changed whatever you originally wrote — Fuck.You. and Fuck.That.Noise.
Schultheis isn’t your cuddly goddamn uncle with a history of being what you can point to as “politically incorrect”, accompanied by some girlish giggles and dainty, arch words like “eschewal”. He’s a stupid, hateful man who has either seriously proposed inhuman policies, or has lied about supporting such policies in order to look like a hero to his fellow troglodytes, secure that no one sane in governm,ent would actually implement them.
Stop fucking whitewashing these fuckers with coy, sardonic references like “politically incorrect”. Just stop it.
GReynoldsCT00
@scav:
Be better to tie his dick around his neck, but then again, he probably needs to tie a string to it just to find it on a daily basis…
maus
Welcome to the media, whose “journalists” lack the integrity and ability to understand words, their meanings, and their meanings in context. Always a race to the bottom, spiraling harder and faster as ad revenue dries up. It’s always the conservatives that have money to burn on such folly and will continue to promote their causes at a loss.
trollhattan
@#14
Seriously, you like pie? Kewhl, I also!
tamied
@Comrade Mary: Wow. (clap clap)
licensed to kill time
@Comrade Mary:
Wow. Excellent rant!
me
@Brick Oven Bill: … and Patrick wants to kill smurfs!
GReynoldsCT00
“PIE! I EAT IT!”
Oh really, B.O.B??
dmsilev
@Ryan:
There are words. Few of them printable, of course.
-dms
El Cid
Here in the Souf I often hear white conservatives announced that such and such may not be (finger quotes and head bobbling) politically correct, but they’re just gonna go ahead and blame all the problems on the n***ers and spics.
kay
@Zifnab:
Nursing, too, it matters for nursing the baby.
Having a baby is a mini-tour of the public health system anyway. I can’t imagine anyone would object to one more stat collected or one more test done.
They’re such idiots. Where do they think data comes from? Chain emails? The story they heard in the supermarket line?
Brick Oven Bill
One thing worth considering is that both Jefferson and Mao rallied against Wealth and Birth, but the two men approached it in different ways.
The key to the American approach is found in Federalist 10 (Madison):
“The diversity in the faculties of men, from which the rights of property originate, is not less an insuperable obstacle to a uniformity of interests. The protection of these faculties is the first object of government.”
Thus our Founding recognized HBD, and sought to establish a system where all men could achieve to the level of their faculties. In contrast, Mao sought to equalize all.
Now consider how Wealth is much more stratified in China than in America, and that this stratification is based on birth. The Bushs and Kennedys of the world are attempting to do the same thing here, see Legacy Scholarships, etc., etc., etc. The most effective technique to do this is by dumbing down the electorate, which has been their goal for a long time.
Thus, the best way to combat Wealth and Birth is to unleash Talent and Virtue. Jefferson’s paper, linked to above is excellent:
“Worth and genius would thus have been sought out from every condition of life, and completely prepared by education for defeating the competition of wealth and birth for public trusts.”
Jefferson’s is thus the way to go. Instead the modern Left proposes a massive government, purporting to give goodies to us, but who instead protect those who would rule us.
I have a Greek sword SpotWeld, not a He-Man sword. And I am not going to clean my basement, as Glenn Beck is coming on in twenty-five minutes and I have to go.
El Cid
The ancient and largely unknown civilization which constructed Great Zimbabwe and the current hit television show ‘Mad Men’ have strikingly similar views regarding capital flight, that is in terms of the overall loudness of a speaker as measured in deciBels (Einstein being wrong on this) and if someone would please, please pay attention to me I will explain it in greater albeit strikingly less comprehensible detail.
Michael
Things like this make me want to go and defile the grave of John Calvin.
ellaesther
@El Cid: Ok, but on the upside, you just made me giggle (indeed, you made me mime the fingers and the head bobbling) so, there’s that.
kay
@El Cid:
I think it goes back to the authoritarian impulse.
“It’s not illegal to be an asshole, is it, well, IS IT?”
No. No it’s not.
They’re lost without a Rule. Forget about self-restraint or basic decency. That odious Flight 93 comparison had to be spoken or you’re muzzling that man.
Happily, he chickened out when called on it.
handy
@El Cid:
Not bad, but needs more
cowbellVirtue and Talent™Comrade Mary
@El Cid: Marry me, El Cid.
(I’m in Canada, so it doesn’t matter if you’re a dude or a lady or a hamster or already hitched, because we’re flexible like that.)
General Winfield Stuck
@Brick Oven Bill:
Be careful with that thing BoB. Wouldn’t want to cut your ass off and become mute.
Joel
@Comrade Mary: agreed completely. in the old days, political correctness was called courtesy.
WereBear
@Michael: I always want to defile the grave of John Calvin.
Comrade Mary
@Michael: I first read that as “Things like this make me want to go and defile the grave of John McCain.”
Words either way, really.
Zifnab
@kay: It’s rank ignorance. I’ve been in and out of the American medical system all my life. Everything from flu shots to major surgery. And I’m not even 30, yet. And all that experience has taught me medical care is important. This isn’t the sort of thing you can dick around with.
I get the feeling some people just don’t understand what doctors do or why certain types of care are important. That people just live or die by the grace of God.
SpotWeld
That’s all well and good BOB, but your mom wants her apology.
We got a nice soft Nerf sword for you when you do.
You just have to promise not to chase the cat anymore.
Butch
I live in Colorado; the guy has a history of saying these types of things. His anti-immigration stuff would make even Lou Dobbs blush, but he represents an extremely conservative and Christian city (home to Focus on the Family) and seems to get away with it.
Joshua Norton
I gotta stop reading this stuff. My refrigerator magnets are starting to rearrange themselves.
Dee Loralei
It doesn’t answer your question, but I found this by Fiore to be mildly amusing.
h/t Rising Hegemon
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/11/11/fioreteabag.DTL
Punchy
Almost certainly at the Dildo And Wetsuit Store down the road from Pike’s Peak.
dr. luba
@Zifnab: “I get the feeling some people just don’t understand what doctors do or why certain types of care are important. That people just live or die by the grace of God.”
That is, in essence, the Republican Health Care plan.
forked tongue
That article about Schultheis was a whitewash, You don’t get the full flavor of his evil without seeing his justification in his own words (via TPM):
licensed to kill time
@General Winfield Stuck:
I read this as “I have a G-spot weld” and that explained a lot of things re: BoB.
Pangloss
I wanted to see what someone who says these kinds of things looks like. Exactly how you’d expect.
Splitting Image
I’ve long since come to the same conclusion. Amen, sister.
Dork
Oh no he dih’hint.
gnomedad
@forked tongue:
Unfortunately, Darwin is relatively kind to batshit insane politicians.
Tom Q
Let me join the chorus seconding Comrade Mary. I’ve literally heard the sentence “So, I told this nigger — oh, excuse me if I’m not politically correct”.
The real irony is, the original use I recall of “politically correct” was lefties making fun of other lefties for being too doctrinaire…like spitting out lettuce if they found it came from the wrong grower. But, as Mary well documents, it has long since become a Get Out of Jail Free card for right wing assholes who want to say any hateful/offensive thing that pops into their heads.
The Populist
These buffoons continue to show how right many of us are. I wish more Americans would wake up to this crap.
Be a conservative if that’s what you want, but back in the day the only and I mean ONLY thing a conservative cared about was budgets and ‘defending’ Jim Crow errr the constitution (aka keep the darker population down and fight any law that gives them a seat at the table). The minute Ronald Reagan and then GHW Bush sold out to the religious right and gave them a ginormous seat at the table (relative to their ACTUAL true influence as a whole) this gets worse and worse every damn year.
How bad does it have to get for Americans to wake up to the fact that Conservatives (or the modern “conservative” movement) hate children, families and charity? They hate anything that isn’t a guarantee of power and influence.
When I was a kid conservatives were hybrids. Depending on where you lived you had the dumbfuckistan variety (The South embodied by the likes of Thurmond and Helms) and the western strain (Goldwater, Nixon, Reagan). The interesting thing was that the Western cons were strange in that some were more libertarian (Goldwater) than conservative. Even by libertarian standards Goldwater was a liberal in many ways. A true old school con who only cared about balancing budgets, protecting America from commies and that was pretty much it. Later in life he defended gays and challenged the southern religious a-holes every chance he got.
Today we have a-holes all over. Bachmann, Lieberman (he is a fricking con, he just needs to admit to it) and many more from other parts of the country that usually voted dem back in the day.
These people now hide behind lies and bullshit to keep people stupid to their game. It’s so sad that America is being destroyed by people who have zero tolerance for differing points of view. If they can’t win the brass ring, they want to steal it.
Morbo
@Dork: Yes, that’s right, if an HIV positive man rapes a woman, she must carry that child to term and give the virus to the child at birth even if that transmission could have been prevented. This will teach both her and the child the very important lesson of not being such communists.
Tonal Crow
The Kenyan-born Barack Obama does not care about America. He does not care about Kenya either. He disrespects his family. Glenn Beck respects his family, and is a real man. He served his country, beating back the ultra-liberal Nazi (that stands for “National Socialist”) hordes and saving America for freedom-loving Americans, not for illegal immigrants. Glenn Beck is very likely to be the next President.
/BOB
RedKitten
That evil, miserable, fuckstain. I make it a practice to not wish ill upon other people, but in his case I will make an exception.
I hope he dies a slow, painful, horrible death, all alone.
Anybody who would espouse a viewpoint like his, to wish AIDS upon babies, is nothing but pure evil.
kay
@forked tongue:
Someone said Colorado Springs is crime-ridden. Not surprising with that attitude.
The Populist
Thus why a lot of Republicans can’t handle governing, eh? So their lack of talent and virtue prove how dumb they are.
Fact, look it up.
Senyordave
Schultheis isn’t your cuddly goddamn uncle with a history of being what you can point to as “politically incorrect”, accompanied by some girlish giggles and dainty, arch words like “eschewal”. He’s a stupid, hateful man who has either seriously proposed inhuman policies, or has lied about supporting such policies in order to look like a hero to his fellow troglodytes, secure that no one sane in governm,ent would actually implement them.
I agree, great rant!
When I think of political correctness, I think of my dad, who always referred to the secretaries he hired for his small engineering firm as girls, as in “I’ll have my girl send them over to your office”. When I was in high school and college I would work for him during the summer, and would say “dad, you shouldn’t say that”. He would stop for a while but inevitably reverted back through force of habit. He once pointed out when we we had lunch in a North jersey diner (boy I miss those) that the 18-year old waitress would serving us called everone hon, including 60 year-old men.
The Populist
Any man who thinks a woman should have to bear an AIDS infected child further show the world how evil and wrong they are.
They hate children. I’ve said in a few threads already and this story proves my point to the fullest.
freelancer
@me:
But if you hadn’t fallen in love with the Smurfs, Patrick wouldn’t have needed to kill them in the first place…
binzinerator
@Elliott:
I used to work near Monument (which is just north of there). and that description fits my perception of Colorado Springs as well.
Someone else mentioned how things felt southern-fried there — I lived in Georgia before ending up in CO, and I also noticed that too.
I lived in Denver and commuted 50 miles each way. No way I was going to live in Colorado Springs.
The Populist
My 80 year old father in law still calls any asian he sees “Orientals” and black people negroes.
He’s not a racist, he grew up in a time where he heard it said and weren’t perceived as hurtful as they are today.
Joey Maloney
Swear to Ghu, if I ever win the Powerball* I’ll spend it to buy a detective agency to surveil every one of these diseased douchenozzles to uncover their peccadillos, and an adult magazine to print the resulting pictures – the legal ones anyway. The other 95% I guess I’ll just put on a server in Moldova or something.
*Not too likely, since I don’t play lotteries.
Citizen_X
See: “U.S. Republican Party, Epitaph of”
The Populist
None of which surprises me. Leave it to white bread con types to create a generic/white wash of a town.
Mirthless Chopper - Frmrly TheFountainHead
What does the “Let’s Roll.” at the end of that tweet possibly mean?? If it’s not a reference to Flight 93, how on earth does it make any fucking sense!?
WHY
/facedesk
WON’T
/facedesk
THESE ASSHOLES
/facedesk
GET A CLUE!
licensed to kill time
__
My 85 yr old landlord was helping us fix something under our house, and said we had to pull out the “niggerboard” first. (It’s some kind of particleboard). The funny thing is that, though we were alone he sort of shot a look to the right and left before he said it, in a kind of sheepish way. He said “that’s what we always called it!”
SpotWeld
@Mirthless Chopper – Frmrly TheFountainHead: It’s simple really.
It’s all catch phrases.
“let’s roll” to this guy isn’t the last words of a man who died in a terrorists attack. It’s just a puncy phrase that he can shout to prove his manliness.
Patriotic statements to jerks like this are pretty much the same thing as “Wolverines!” or “I’ll be back”
The Populist
To him it did and that is why right thinking people who call themselves conservative need to say something to this asshat.
He used it as an analogy for his vehement disagreements with Obama’s policies and thought it was clever to use Flight 93 as his argument for how the country is ‘doomed.’
kay
@Zifnab:
Just thank your lucky stars they’re not really in charge of anything except a Twitter account.
Does he want them tested for Hep C, or is that also an indication of moral failing where the punishment of infection should be visited on the child?
The problem with the nutjob’s line of thinking is it’s headed in one direction. More and more, disease is traceable to “lifestyle choices”. They’re going to find themselves in the class they’ve designated “Leper”, and soon. I’ll be charitable when it happens.
DBrown
@required: Ignorance is no shame – the reason they need to test mothers is because if she is HIV positive, then there is a good chance the baby will get AIDs and die very quickly. However, very cheap, effective and safe measures will prevent this – how could any thinking person, much less any self proclaim christian not support such testing? In fact, after children are born a number (too few and not standardized) are given to check for a number of possible problems that saves vast, vast sums of money and pain/suffering for no real trouble.
So in answer to your question, yes, all people (babies) are tested. You somehow think that is wrong?
El Cid
@Comrade Mary: Done. I’ll take my free Stalin Hitler Mao health care alongside my ice wine and complaining how all them Alberta cowboys think they run the damn country.
licensed to kill time
@SpotWeld:
I don’t know – when it’s paired with a statement about flying the U.S. plane into the ground, I have a hard time believing he didn’t mean the obvious inference. He only tried to dial it back after the fact.
I get what you’re saying about catch-phrases, etc. But he knew what he was implying.
SiubhanDuinne
@Tom Q: The only time a “politically correct” anecdote really made me laugh was back in the fairly early days of recycling and source-separation. Some Eastern liebrul college (might have been Hahvahd, I wouldn’t know) set up a series of bins side by side, with neatly-lettered signs above them:
El Cid
By the way, I don’t think the tenor of this statement is that different from statements of all the leading Republicans, including many of their primary candidates as well as their eventual VP candidate, so, to the question of “Where Do They Find These People” I’d respond “At every single level of today’s Republican Party, its affiliated institutions, think tanks, magazines, pundits, and blogs.”
Meanwhile, how dare you suggest that maybe George W. Bush Jr. skipped out on his grueling National Guard schedule, War President in a Time of War on War Footing and all the rest of it.
But, I forget, the entire past 8 years before January 20, 2009 is gone and never really existed anyway.
Comrade Darkness
@Ryan: The words are: same old same old. This goes right along with the right’s outrage over giving school girls vaccines to prevent cervical cancer. Those hussies are supposed to suffer. Jesus said so.
binzinerator
@RedKitten:
And remember, these are the same people who will shoot or cheer those who shoot doctors and nurses because they believe they are saving babies from murder by abortion.
Saving them so they can get AIDS so as to make their mothers feel guilty for having sex.
Yup, evil.
SiubhanDuinne
@kay:
Kay, you are a much nicer person than I am.
The Populist
Not only that but does this nutjob want to cause potential problems for the rest of society should anybody contract the infection from anybody who may unknowingly have it?
Let’s say the kid is born and using this schlep’s argument, should he go through life pretending he doesn’t have it or even NOT KNOWING?
These idiots kill me. I bet this State Senator thinks it’s bad when the likes of John Ensign get caught cheating in ways that are unethical (paying off the husband with a job?) but he wants to punish women who get a disease? Shit, how does asswipe Senator know how anybody contracts this? You don’t always get these things from sex! Blood transfusions and unfortunately drug use are other ways.
So basically what the good Senator proposes we become is equal to what you see in these countries that push Islamic law on the populace. It’s unforgiving and wrong to push aside compassion for others to play God and pass laws or push unforgiving, stupid and selfish ideology like this.
Comrade Darkness
@Morbo: Wah? Or you’re making that up. The context is really fucking clear. And this is an atheist talking.
scav
@Comrade Darkness: it’s very dry. refers back to the attempt to rewrite the bible and take out all the icky, DFH bits.
gocart mozart
@Comrade Mary:
Exactly, calling something P.C. does not rise to the level of even a bad argument. Archie Bunker would make a rasberry sound whenever he was stumped. Its the same thing: A childish temper tantrum, A fart sound diguised as an argument.
Comrade Darkness
@The Moar You Know: Boy, isn’t it a good thing that federal level congresspeople and senators just pop into existence from nothing. One day they are just gas station attendants or two-bit lawyers then the next day, hey, I’m a senator! I’m a governor!
Comrade Dread
This is horrible, appalling and about as much of an anti-Christian statement as one can make.
Even if you have no compassion for the women (and that would still be an anti-Christian attitude to have), to condemn innocent children to a chronic life-threatening condition and the unfair stigma that might follow is about as far from what Jesus Christ taught as you can get.
Perhaps I’m not inclined to be charitable after the AIDs statement, but what I read was roughly interpreted as: “That Islamo-fascist Kenyan is gonna kill us all unless we disobey his rules and expectations and take back this country by force…”
bemused
It just kills me how R’s like Schultheis then just baldface lie about what they just said 2 seconds ago. Shame on you, it’s outrageous to think I was making any sort of comparison with driving a plane into the earth, let’s roll, 911 & Obama.
‘Heck no, I didn’t eat that brownie’ as they stand there with gooey chocolate all over their faces.
Their teabag base believes them so that’s all that counts.
The Populist
It’s also proof this guy can’t think. He can only borrow things he thinks sound good to sell his POV.
RedKitten
I just have no faith in humanity at all today. Is it just me, or are human beings just becoming more and more brutish, nasty and thoughtless?
A couple of days before Remembrance Day, some assholes in Fredericton, N.B. vandalized the hell out of the cenotaph. The night before last, a bunch of shitheads threw broken beer bottles at my husband’s boss’s miniature ponies. Then we have David Schultheis’s disgusting, disgusting remarks — and people are defending him!
Have human beings become more ugly and hateful lately, or was I just fortunate enough to never notice it before?
The Populist
I am not being snarky when I say these people HATE children. This hate comes from a place where unless they can be taught to believe the way this guy thinks, they are just the unwashed. To a guy like the good Senator, he sees them as more dupes he can brainwash to vote against their own self interests.
bemused
When I see a comment starting with “Sun Tzu (or Artificial Law) teaches us….”, I start breaking out in hives.
binzinerator
@The Populist:
“Let’s roll” was supposedly what one of the passengers said before they stormed the cockpit to wrest control of the aircraft. By using those words he’s repeating and reinforcing the wingnut insurrection ‘take back our country’ meme.
SiubhanDuinne
@Comrade Dread:
That’s precisely how I interpreted it, with my one-word addition.
Andre
“Schultheis is goosestepping through America, saluting the folk, driving the ill towards trains towards a healthcare holocaust.”
Why, no, of course I didn’t just compare David Schultheis to Hitler, why do you ask?
The Populist
Not you, just de-evolution at work.
Not any different than some fuck who threw a handle from a shopping cart over our fence and almost hurt my dog. I see more graffiti, more Larouchey types putting up displays of hatred and more a-hole behavior from drivers and in stores.
It’s just sad.
licensed to kill time
@Comrade Dread:
Ayup. Me too.
“Let’s roll on the darky terrorist who’s hijacked the U.S. plane” is what it sounded like to me.
Comrade Mary
@El Cid: Yay! I’ll set up the spousal registries at Target and Tim Horton’s, and we’ll be all set.
The Grand Panjandrum
OT:
Irony Red Alert — This headline now on the front page of Politico:
Read the entire piece.
The Populist
WTF happened to the meme that we should “Support the President”?
These idiots are taking us into a territory where NO president will get the respect that the office deserves. Maybe they want it that way.
No liberal I know wanted Bush to die, wanted him hurt or wanted harm to come to this country to prove him wrong. Any talk of impeachment was backed by proof of Bush’s malfeasance and illegal behavior. Many hoped he’d do some good things. He failed us all and these idiots all appear out of nowhere to argue that the government is out of control. I ask where the FUCK these jerkwads were at the end of Bush’s reign?
Idiots and a pox on all of them. I laugh at all this. I can’t help but laugh hard at them. If I don’t laugh, I certainly will start to shed a tear for what our country was at one point.
binzinerator
Colorado Springs and evangelicals mentioned here. Remember those church shootings in CO a while back? These fundies are fucked up. Really fucked up.
And yes, they must hate children.
John PM
Because, of course, it is impossible that a woman could get AIDS from her philandering husband, for example.
I get confused listening to these “Christians”; I thought Jesus said “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you,” not “Do unto others before they do unto you.”
El Cid
They didn’t call it the Know Nothing Party because the members were supposed to be stupid, but because they would lie about what they wanted and what they were trying to do:
That’s why they love saying things which pretty clearly suggest that the President is a 9/11 hijacker trying to slaughter innocent civilians and against whom we should violently rise up and stop from their hijacking activities, and then saying, ‘no, no, no, you got it all wrong, we’re just urging people to get active, I know nothing of what you’re talkin’ about.’
The Populist
Jesus also said to turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor and demanded we all help the downtrodden.
So much for all of that.
El Cid
@Comrade Mary: It’ll be awesome. And we can always remember our anniversary by the phrase memorialized by a Colorado State Senator: “Let’s roll!”
SiubhanDuinne
@RedKitten:
A colleague from New Brunswick told me about the Fredericton cenotaph vandalism today — I had missed that story. I can remember being horrified a few years ago when some kid used the cenotaph in Ottawa as his very own urinal, but at least pee washes away. The NB business is truly sickening.
As for your larger question — I wish I knew the answer, Red Kitten. In my sunnier moods I don’t think humankind writ large is any worse than it’s ever been (although we sure are an inventive species), and in fact I’m even sometimes inclined to believe that we are getting closer to critical mass on human goodness. It’s certainly my hope and my mindful goal, despite the enjoyable snark I indulge in on this site and in my everyday life.
But outrages like Schultheis’ comments and the almost daily comments from the BecksLimbaughsMalkinsPalinsCoulters of this world send me to the very edge of the slough of despond.
Then I look at a picture of SamKitten and feel optimistic and cheerful again. It’s an emotional pushmepullyou kind of life.
Svensker
He said that? He fucking said that? Maybe he should go talk to Paul Michael Glaser, whose first wife got AIDS from a transfusion when her first child was born. That baby got AIDs from its mother, as did his second child, born four years later. The first child died at age 7 and his wife died 8 years later. I’m sure Paul would love to discuss this with Sen. Schit.
What is wrong with these people?
freelancer
@RedKitten:
This comic’s for you.
and I think it would go keenly with the Tags: Bring on the Brawndo!, and We are all Mayans now.
The Populist
I know Biz, I was just responding to another poster who wondered if he really was referring to the Flight 93 crash.
MikeJ
@Comrade Mary: Can I send Canadian Tire money in lieu of a gift?
Jon H
“State Sen. David Schultheis said he didn’t intend for a Twitter post ”
didn’t intend *what*? Newspaper editing fail. The sentence just meanders on without completing this thought.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they meant to say “didn’t intend for a Twitter post to become public” which is about this guy’s level of intellect.
El Cid
@Jon H: ‘I wish to apologize for anything I may have said which you wrongfully interpreted in some way that would cause me the slightest degree of inconvenience. In no way was it ever my intention to cause myself any degree of regret.’
Catsy
Serious question: is the term “negro” actually offensive? I know it’s a disfavored term, and I don’t use it myself, but I thought it was more along the lines of being quaint or anachronistic rather than racist, particularly since there are African-American organizations that still use the term in their names. Maybe I’ve just been inured to it by reading too much fiction set in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
MikeJ
TPM:
Mike in NC
Thank God for the blessings of modern technology. How else would the teabaggers be able to strive so hard to return things to the 18th (or is it 13th) Century?
SiubhanDuinne
@Jon H:
Yeah, me too. I was very puzzled when I read that sentence the first few times. Then I was so angry and distressed at the rest of the piece that I forgot all about my puzzlement. But it is a horribly sloppy piece of writing/editing.
pcbedamned
@El Cid:
Just so you know, we can’t really marry our hamsters…
pcbedamned
I should have added – not yet, anyway…
General Winfield Stuck
Meet the new executive producer at CNN.
Mark S.
Jesus Fucking H Christ, what kind of person thinks this way? I mean it. We make fun of a lot loony people here, but this is the thought process of a straight-up sociopath.
wobblybits
@Catsy: yes.
ellaesther
@El Cid: Ok, you’re my favorite funny person on this board today, as this is now the second time you’ve made me, quite literally, LOL. I thank you.
Emma Anne
@D.N. Nation:
Hi DNN. Gentler bunch here, but just as funny.
jeffreyw
@MikeJ: This gives a whole new meaning to “getting mooned”.
freelancer
@Emma Anne:
‘cept when it comes to the Yankees.
Xenos
@scav: The key thing is to remember to properly and fully eviscerate the last priest before you try to strangle the last king with the entrails. If you get the sequence wrong it really does not work very well.
Just Some Fuckhead
@Catsy:
You think that’s bad? I know folks that still call people of color “black people” and also lump the very diverse eastern cultures into the bland term “asian”.
geg6
Another monstrous Christian who sneers at atheists, agnostics, and deists like me as immoral and lacking values because we don’t kowtow to their book of superstition and fantasy. Yup, I’m the evil one. That Jesus dude, were he around to see what they do in his name, would be hanging with Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher in atonement.
SiubhanDuinne
O/T, from Carrie Prejean’s Christianity Today interview (via Huffington Post): “I don’t see anywhere in the Bible where it says you shouldn’t get breast implants.”
Is it just me?
ellaesther
@Just Some Fuckhead: Dude. That’s a little harsh, no?
General Winfield Stuck
I try and do my part to make the place as sweet as possible, but it’s a lonely job.
Eric U.
since I’m sworn to defend the Constitution, I think a road trip to Colorado Springs to make sure this guy is really harmless might be in order. Anyone with me?
ellaesther
@geg6: I have a feeling that he would be out there actually helping people — you know, like unwed mothers and sick babies? (I may not be Christian, but I know that a good Jewish boy like Jesus was raised right!)
Xenos
The proper response to this sort of thing is to condemn them in their own language. Tell them they are blasphemers, sinners, and devil worshippers, obsessed with wealth, power, and sex.
They keep telling us there are millions of satanists out there… maybe they know something we don’t. So lets just conclude that the people acting like satanists really are satanists.
pcbedamned
@Just Some Fuckhead:
Actually, most Canadians use the term ‘black’ (at least that I have ever heard).
I think the concept of hyphenating is more of an American phenomenon (aside from our term of French Canadian, although it is not hyphenated).
El Cid
@pcbedamned: I also support the right to marry unknown hamsters as well.
geg6
SiubhanDuinne: No, not just you. Miss Jesus Boobs is truly THAT vile, vain, and pig ignorant.
pcbedamned
@El Cid:
Considering the rise of the rate of obesity here in Canada, I don’t think I like the thought of all those poor little hamsters getting squashed.
But that’s just me :)
Mark S.
I mean, how will people learn the wonderful teachings of Jesus if they don’t see babies dying of AIDS?
Comrade Mary
@MikeJ: Canadian Tire money to mark the upcoming nuptials of El Cid et moi would be lovely, thank you. We’re also accepting gold bullion, guns, ammo, canned food and hamster re-inflation kits.
Just Some Fuckhead
@ellaesther: Oh, I get it. You got Ol’ Cid to make ya laugh now so Fuckhead can head right the fuck off.
El Cid
@ellaesther: I will never forget this moment because in this moment everything I have ever wanted has just happened to me.
Mario Piperni
David Schultheis comment is just another example of conservatives and repubs in self-destruct mode. NY-23’s Dede Scozzafava spoke out today on where her party’s headed…minority status.
Spazzman Spliff
@General Winfield Stuck:
In addition, General, one might want to caution BoB about messing around with that golden screw. It would be a shame if we had to go without his distinctive voice.
pcbedamned
@Comrade Mary:
Just don’t forget to those register those guns!!!
And again, I implore you, leave the poor hamsters alone!
P.S. – My parents save up all of their Canadian Tire for the year and give it to my hubby at Christmas. It’s usually his favorite gift.
General Winfield Stuck
I want to be wined and dined a little first, before we get on that wheel./
A few years ago, I bought two hamsters and had a hundred in a couple of months. Somebody got married.
El Cid
@Comrade Mary: What about gold bouillon?
geg6
You know, I could weather this wingnut horror show if only I could look at a Lily pic to comfort me. Just sayin’.
General Winfield Stuck
@Spazzman Spliff:
Naked Lunch is all about bugged BoB.
Laura W
@pcbedamned: Can you marry your own hermaphroditic guinea pigs up there? I would’ve totally married Fred, my guinea pig back in 1995. It was a sad, sad time in my life. I rescued him from the Monterey County SPCA shelter (who could resist that little face in the newspaper ad?) We did not have much time together, alas, and Fred died, right on my boobs in bed one night, after a sudden and painful illness, from a perforated organ (whose name I can’t access in this moment) that led to sepsis.
Upon the necropsy, it was determined my Fred was a hermaphrodite.
Clearly, I am not the type of shallow woman that would leave a septic, hermaphroditic guinea pig in his last hours. But I’ve not had it in me to re-Guinea since then. Still too soon.
General Winfield Stuck
@Laura W:
If ya gotta go//
bago
Woot! Linkwhoring works!
Just Some Fuckhead
@Laura W: I’m pretty sure I read about you and Fred in Pethouse Variations. As I recall, Fred was rather taken with you.
ellaesther
@Just Some Fuckhead: Oh, how you know me!
pcbedamned
@Laura W:
Was that pic of your guinea?
I felt like that when my bunny Hazel-rah died back in ’91. (Although she was all a she…) Don’t think I even love my own legal mate as much as I loved that bunny. (She died of nicotine poisoning. While I was away I let a friend ‘use’ my place, and while they were in the ‘throse of passion’ they dropped a cigarette behind my bed. My Hazel-rah was litter trained and therefore never in a cage. Hence, she ate just enough to get a lethal dose. And yes, believe it or not, said friend and I are still friends).
WereBear
@Laura W: Geez, Laura W. That’s an epic guinea pig story, all right.
I got so attached to my hamster, Arnie (he used to sleep right by the cage door so I’d pick him up and cuddle him,) that I haven’t had one in 20 years. They only live 2 years at the most. Can’t handle it.
Laura W
@pcbedamned: No, but it’s the spittin’ image of my Fred. I’ve always wanted a bunny as well. There was an all white one for sale that must’ve been twice the size of Tunch in a local pet store. It had belonged to the owner, but for whatever reason, she was selling him.
I had to stop going in there for a year, it made me so sad and the yearning so great to bring that bunny home and make him mine.
(Just setting Fuckhead up for another beastiality riff there, but I also mean it. In the non-disgusting way, of course.) I did go in recently to buy some gold fish for an outdoor pond and was thrilled to hear the bun went to a very good home. Some day I will have a litter-trained bunny or two. And another guinea, or six. Outdoors, in a pen. They are messy mo-fos, and I am not about keeping them in cages 24/7. But there is nothing like their squeal when you open the fridge and they know you are reaching for their baby carrots!
General Winfield Stuck
@WereBear:
this is why I don’t have them now. I just love Hamsters, especially the Fancy Dwarf variety. They are full of personality for such tiny creatures, though most will bite so you have to put up with that. But them dying so quickly I couldn’t handle. My backyard is a veritable Hamster graveyard.
Violet
Laura W, how are things in Bitsyland today, since she didn’t get crowned a semifinalist? I’m still feeling bummed about that. All those toy puffballs and not a mutt among them. Travesty!
AhabTRuler
Having lived with rats, hamsters, mice, guinea pigs, fish, and, briefly, a
shit machinebunny, I have found cats and dogs to be superior in all ways.They are far more personable, and, as plus they can take care of the extraneous rats, gerbils, hamster, &c…
Except for Vendetta, the Convict Chiclid. She is personable and vicious. We have to keep the cats out of her tank, for their safety.
pcbedamned
@Laura W:
You would love my house. At present, 12 cats, 4 dogs, 1 cockatoo, 1 fish, and a guinea that screams ever time we open the fridge :)
Unfortunately, I developed an allergy to bunnies when I got pregnant with my first 16 years ago. Now I can only admire them from afar.
kommrade reproductive vigor
You just know this goat boner has a fine collection of wetsuits.
JasonF
Having lived with a variety of bunnies and cats over the years (and currently living with two bunnies and a cat), I can say that every bunny I have ever owned has been infinitely superior to every cat I have ever owned.
Martin
@freelancer:
Yeah, fuck the fucking Yankees.
WereBear
Having detoured into the land of lovable and furry and gained my equilibrium, I can say that this clown in question, who I have thankfully not heard of before, is the very model of a modern major Xantian.
The self-loathing can be cut with a butter knife.
I have long suspected, and now firmly believe, that they gloat over the sins of others because it means these others will be burning in their lake of fire so that they will not be.
Does things to ya.
bemused
I would like to ask Schultheis how he would set examples for men against sexual promiscuity.
freelancer
@kommrade reproductive vigor:
roflmao, swish.
Deborah
Why is it that I, a person who would not dream of twittering, am still more conversant with how it works–public record, no erasing–than are a significant number of Gooper politicos?
Dream On
“I have a vibrator – SpotWeld, not a He-Man sword. And I am not going to clean my basement, as some porno is being uploaded in twenty-five minutes and I have to go.”
——————
Fixed, BOB.
Martin
Psh.
A real Christian would just kill the baby with a stone and save the state the health care costs. Same guilt outcome but smaller government.
freelancer
@Dream On:
?!
Demo Woman
@SiubhanDuinne: I remember the good ole days when God and the Bible didn’t compare the big boobs and the small boobs. Of course, other folks did though.
SensesFail
Volunteering is totally for pussies and does not usually include hating brown people in any form of the activity.
El Cid
Uh oh, looks like another grand achievement by a producer, the productive ones from our society, whom we must not burden by overheavy taxation, etc. etc.
That’s about a $1.5 – 3 million super high performance sports car. Before cellphone using, pelican dodging Lone Star douche here, there were about 200 in the world.
TenguPhule
We can call it the “Don’t let Limbaugh Breed” bill.
DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)
If there is a god then there is hope that this sick fucker will burn in hell for eternity for his vile statements. Working to help spread AIDS and being happy to do it? That is just sick.
Not even close. Vacuum tubes. Old, worn out vacuum tubes.
Every time I see his worthless ass here all I can see him saying is Watch me fuck this goat!
Svensker
@pcbedamned:
And I thought gay marriage was cutting edge. You Canadians are WAAAAYYYY beyond us Americans.
Chuck Butcher
@RedKitten:
Oh yeah, I can’t tell you how I pine for the good ole days. Um, whenever that was:
Um slaves and duels
Civil Wars
Robber Barons and dead Union organizers
The days of KKK political dominance in lots of states
McCarthyism
Veet Nam
I could probably go on to some length…
Laura W
@Svensker: That is SO FUCKING FUNNY! Great catch!
@Violet: There are no tears in Bitsyland, or Eric Clapton’s heaven, today, Violet!
Seriously…this is just the start of so many good things. Not the end at all. The little girl won a top 12 spot in the final week out of 60,000 dogs, thanks to the magic of online organizing and networking.
Eye on the prize, Violet! What if she’d not entered at all? Or never been rescued by Evelyn? Would Bitsy or Evelyn’s soon-to-be-established non-profit be any better off? Would we be any happier? We know for sure Evelyn raised $500 from the contest, and I happen to know of another $200 at least from BJ readers, and I presume many more donations from other sources that have allowed Evelyn to get the wheels spinning under her foundation (set-up cost initially estimated at $3,000 on Aug 31 when I was roped in.)
This was not a vanity contest for Bitsy. It was a public awareness campaign and fund raising effort. Personally, I am giddy over the success in both arenas, and it’s just the very beginning! Check back in a year and see how many animals have been helped as a direct result of this whole endeavor.
You need to go get a fine wine buzz and pat yourself on the back, Violet. You worked so hard and contributed so much in your daily enthusiasm. I’m gonna insist Evelyn name a rescue kitty “Violet” in your honor.
Sanka
What a jerk. You don’t hear this nonsense from other religions:
Stupid Christians…
SiubhanDuinne
Keith is about to do a bit on this Colorado state senator. Don’t tell me he isn’t an avid Balloon-Juice reader!
pcbedamned
@Svensker:
And here I am constantly ragging on my kid for not using proper English and clarifying her wiring.
(hangs head in shame)
Chuck Butcher
@Sanka:
When a person adopts the name of a crappy sort of coffee it is not surprise that you get crappy sort of reasoning.
Other than as a display of stupidity, was there a reason for this posting? Somebody around here was unaware of Islamic fundamentistic lunacy?
Nice try, BoB has the advantage over you, and that’s not a small thing
Svensker
@Sanka:
It’s true. Only Christians are jerks, because we’re so special.
pcbedamned
@pcbedamned:
Yep, it is really time to lay off the meds…
That should have said ‘writing’, not ‘wiring’.
I think it may be time to go veg in front of the tube for awhile so I don’t have to think anymore. Less harm that way (to both my pride and the English language…)
Svensker
@pcbedamned:
What’s wrong with your kid’s wiring? Too many bunny siblings? :)
Svensker
@pcbedamned:
LOL.
You’re faster on the keyboard than I, meds or no.
SiubhanDuinne
WPITW! W00t!
Chuck Butcher
@SiubhanDuinne:
Keith, are you the BoB spoof? It would be irrespobsible not to…
SiubhanDuinne
@Chuck Butcher 8:53 pm
Oh, wouldn’t that just be delicious!
Hob
@The Populist: How can you blame a guy for using such a great analogy? I mean, the United 93 thing just fits so perfectly. Obama has seized the country and is planning to crash it into the ground, or maybe into a government building… so the heroic common people have to get together and say LET’S ROLL, and then break down the control room door and attack Obama, so they can…….. crash the country into the ground, rather than let it hit any government buildings. Wait a minute…
Violet
@Laura W:
Awww, you’re sweet! If you do name a rescue puppy or kitty Violet, I insist on a picture!
You’re right that we should be positive. And so many great things have happened and it’s all wonderful news for animals needing help. I was proud to be a part of it and really glad she won the last week. You guys are a great group of people!
'Niques
@WereBear:
Is this because Hell has a limited amount of real estate, or that they think they can distract God by pointing out others’ sins?
gil mann
@Violet:
Seriously? They’re all purebreeds? God people suck.
I don’t care what else they’ve done or will ever do–PETA’s Klan rally at the Westminster Dog Show is pretty much my favorite protest of all time.
Mike G
Schultheis voted in February against a bill requiring pregnant women to be tested for AIDS to prevent spreading the disease to the children. He said then that infected children would set examples for women against sexual promiscuity.
Yes, because that’s exactly what Jesus would do.
And they’ll know we are Christians by our love
By our love
Yes, they’ll know we are Christians by our love.
RememberNovember
It makes me sad that all these asshats of Germanic background are painting themselves in swastika clown makeup.
Schultheis, Hoekstra, Bachmann, Limbaugh. Could be some post Boys from Brazil genetic conspiracy sleeper agent psychosis.
I mean really, lets have beer and brats and lets kick em to the curb.
Or maybe we give em pretzels to choke on.
– an ashamed Germano-Irish American