Fox deletes another “un-story” while Beck leads two minutes of hate.
In other news, Princess Palin indicates there will never be a Palestinian state. Also. Rapture in days and weeks ahead? You betcha!
2.
Brian J
Aren’t union members a pretty strong force in this upstate congressional district? If so, why would he decide to piss all over them if he’s thinking about a rematch? Is it because he doesn’t live in the district and thus doesn’t know it well?
Well his only other option is to go back to the crazies who brung him, so can you blame him?
4.
r€nato
ACORN is the welfare queen of the conservative teabagger.
5.
Scott H
I suppose that Hoffman realized, or was told, that, if he wanted to qualify for wingnut welfare, he needed to find ways to stay in the churn.
6.
Waynski
I didn’t read the entire thing, but noticed more than one donation link. If he’s not required to spend the money he rasies through this letter on a recavassing effort, IMHO, he’s just raising money from the wingnuts with the ACORN bait.
7.
truculent and unreliable
@r€nato: They’re essentially the same people, in their minds. (Blackity black BLACK BLACK!)
ACORN and the unions! and Soros! and Jesse Jackson! and Hitler!
it’s always the meddling external elements which defeat good honest American conservatism! (even when that conservatism is itself funded by meddling external elements)
9.
Zifnab
Wait, is Bachman married? Because she and Hoffman would make the total power couple.
10.
jcricket
Conservatives can never lose elections, they can only have them stolen from their rightful (whiteful?) owners.
Honestly, I have little faith in Americans to understand the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats do a crap-ass job articulating why you’d want to vote for Democrats or just bending over backwards to be “centrist”. And Republicans traditionally avoided their actual agenda in favor of giveaways like Bush Tax Cuts + Medicare Part D (all the tax cuts and all the spending, whee!).
Somehow Republicans have decided this magical situation sucked and the solution is showing everyone who they really are – no wait, making it 100% clear that they’re not anyone other than Beck, Palin and Limbaugh types.
How they decided this was the road to electoral victory is beyond me, but, frankly, it’s fine. At least in the short term it will allow Democrats to maintain majorities even with our own failings. America needs that modicum of sanity right now.
Yeah, bashing unions in the NY-23 is certainly going to win him more votes if he decides to run next time. The stench he smells is a direct of his lips being firmly planted on Glenn Beck’s ass
13.
dmsilev
Another mouthpiece for the Talking-point-o-matic. At this point, I think we should require all GOP candidates to submit to a shirtless inspection to check for the presence of one of those pull-strings in the middle of their back.
-dms
14.
Crashman06
Someone needs to take that clip of Shatner screaming “KHAAAAAAN” from Star Trek II, and dub in the word ACORN instead.
Nahh, this is just the wingnuts trying to play the news for their usual win-win scenario: Hoffman wins, he wins; triumphalism all around and hip-hip hurray! If he loses, there is always some sinister machination behind it, and Teh Eeeeevul ACORN !!!1!!1!, being the right-wingers’ boogeyman-of-the-month fits the bill just the fine. Thus reassuring the teabagger crowd that Yes Indeed, They and They Alone are the True Voice of Real Americans; and that only the wicked conspiracies of The Enemy has kept them from their rightful possession of political power.
IOW, sore losers and fantasists. But so what else is new…..?
16.
r€nato
He wants to be a conservative martyr. I hear there’s good money in that, just ask Sarah Palin.
17.
HRA
All I did was see “slashing tires”. Wow, that’s something new at any place – at any time?
How many ways can we describe these idiots for accusing others without any real evidence to back them up? It reminds me of that girl who messed up her face during the primaries, blamed others, and got the attention.
18.
jcricket
@cleek: The best thing to do, in terms of vote registration, is call Republicans bluff. Pass a couple of national laws:
1) Same day, super-easy registration, via any government agency (i.e. if you are at the DMV, or interacting with your utility company, they can register you).
2) Guaranteed no-fault absentee balloting. Voters like it, makes a ton of intimidation tactics worthless, and eliminates long-lines, broken machine issues, Diebold touch-screen fraud issues, etc.
Call it the “WAR ON ACORN” act. Or the “clean elections act” or whatever.
Sure, Republicans will oppose it, but that’s fine – they’ll be shown to oppose things the people want and appear ridiculous to everyone outside their base.
Same tactic needs to be applied to birth control/sex ed (and a bunch of other stuff where Republican views are nuts, when out in the open and expressed forcefully).
19.
bemused
@Zifnab:
Michele Bachmann already has a soul mate. Her husband is a therapist who “degays” gay people.
Reading Palin’s comments on Israel and settlements, it is fascinating that her timeline for the end times seems to have been exposed as “weeks and months.”
Evidently, she is a Mayan too.
I’ve been of the opinion that she wouldn’t run in 2012 because she is all about money and celebrity and has no interest in actually governing.
I now think that she _will_ run, based on her understanding that she will get the fame of being elected queen of America, and then get raptured away before she has to do any actual work.
I’m not up on my Book of Revelation. Does that make her the anti-christ?
I have to get out of here and commence packing. I’m moving for the third time this year. But just a word to John Cole, if you’re still reading, I believe you’re in what they call Twitter jail. Not sure what it is, but changing clients I’ve heard will work sometimes. Try logging in directly from the web. It might help.
24.
pcbedamned
A question: When they say ‘recanvassing’, do they mean they are going door to door asking people who they voted for? Or are they actually counting cast ballots?
25.
Comrade Darkness
@Libby: Have you ever met a psychiatrist who wasn’t f*cked up? I’m willing to accept there are a handful of outliers who are well adjusted . . . I’m going for the median here.
OH, and he’s a de-ghayer, I see, glancing above. So, he has a degree, but he can’t read and comprehend actual literature from his field of choice. I’ll go for douche-bag then.
26.
Col. Klink
@joes527
Holy shit, thanks for connecting the dots. Palin in 2012 = Mayan calendar. Maybe they were right???
Short of Zhirinovsky getting has finger on the button I couldn’t think of a faster way to end the world than electing St. Moose of Wasilla.
27.
Brian J
@HRA: You laugh now, but once your tires are slashed by these imaginary ACORN union member thugs, you won’t be so cheery.
Casca, to Brutus:
I can as well be hanged as tell the manner of it:
it was mere foolery; I did not mark it. I saw Mark
Antony offer him a crown;–yet ’twas not a crown
neither, ’twas one of these coronets;–and, as I told
you, he put it by once: but, for all that, to my
thinking, he would fain have had it. Then he
offered it to him again; then he put it by again:
but, to my thinking, he was very loath to lay his
fingers off it. And then he offered it the third
time; he put it the third time by: and still as he
refused it, the rabblement hooted and clapped their
chapped hands and threw up their sweaty night-caps
and uttered such a deal of stinking breath because
Caesar refused the crown that it had almost choked
Caesar; for he swounded and fell down at it: and
for mine own part, I durst not laugh, for fear of
opening my lips and receiving the bad air.
29.
dmsilev
@pcbedamned: Generally, recanvassing is just recounting all of the cast ballots, the absentees, etc.
-dms
30.
Comrade Mary
@Libby: Enjoy packing! One reason I’m not selling this house is that I’ll be damned if I ever have to move again.
I don’t think John’s in Twitter jail. You get banged up in there only if you tweet more than 100 times an hour. John was moving at a definitively Tunchesque pace, so that can’t be it.
31.
jayjaybear
The wingnuts haven’t figured out how regional differences in party make-up are important. To them, if you’re Republican, then you’re just like the current national Republicans: wingnut teabagger ultraconservative Christians. The idea that there are Northeastern Republicans (Rockefeller Republicans) has escaped them, leading to pretty much a Republican rout in New England and most of New York (Congressionally, anyway).
The Republicans of NY-23 are NOT national Republicans, and have actually been reacting very badly to Hoffman’s assertions of interference and vote-stealing.
32.
JGabriel
Doug Hoffman (via TPM):
Oswego County elections officials blame the mistakes on “chaos” in their call-in center that included a phone system foul-up, and on inspectors who read numbers incorrectly when phoning in results. This sounds like a tactic right from the ACORN playbook.
I hate it when ACORN fouls up my phone, and then makes me read bad numbers.
Oh, ACORN, I can’t resist your bad number compelling ways. I wish I knew how to quit you!
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33.
DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)
Unions & ACORN. Hmmm… Unions & A CORN… Uni ons & A CORN…
A UniCORN! Hoffman found A UniCORN! See! There was a secret coded message he was beaming out to the Beckerheads and somehow I picked up a stray signal!
“As evidence surfaces, we find out that reported results from election night were far from accurate. ACORN and the unions did their best to try and sway the results to Obamacare supporter Bill Owens.”
I’m resigned to hearing how Hoffman would have voted had he been elected every time Bill Owens casts a vote in the House.
It’ll be like McCain, or Palin. We’ll have the person who was elected act, and then we’ll hear from the person who lost, until the next election.
It’s fairer. Even-steven.
it was a Democratic bottle, planted by union members who had been hired by ACORN with Soros’ money, to ram the Obama agenda down the throats of conservatives.
Absentee ballots allow black felons and illegal Mexicans to vote so we have to go back to poll place voting where Real Americans can properly screen for skin color citizenship.
41.
GregB
I blame the Acorns. They are always slashing backwards B’s into tires.
Update: Anton Troianovski of the Wall Street Journal followed up with the Plattsburgh police on this, and was told that the volunteer actually damaged his tire on a broken bottle. I asked Hoffman campaign manager Dan Tripp about this–he said he had no comment because the campaign had not heard this yet.
The amazing part is that the broken bottle actually cut the tire in the shape of an inverted ‘B.’
43.
Comrade Darkness
@cleek: Is this before or after they have to bend over backwards for them, and have the hammer put on them?
All republicans are former clients of Bachmann’s husband.
44.
call_me_ishmael
I think DougJ has infiltrated the article’s comments thread:
wezvv 16 minutes ago
Darn straight. Hoffman should appeal to the Supreme Court to be appointed by them and all recounting should stop. Just like the Founding Fathers intended.
If there aren’t men in Brooks Brothers suits shouting at the recounters, it can’t possibly be a fair recount anyway.
Good Stuff.
45.
Violet
Peak Wingnut is clearly not here yet.
46.
Brick Oven Bill
I have noticed a common theme among progressive blogs. Glenn Beck bad. Sean Hannity not worth discussing. Sarah Palin bad. Mike Huckabee not worth discussing. Beck-Palin threat. Hannity-Huckabee not threat. Forget about Greta.
I have been seeking the source of the datafeed of these progressive blogs, and, through a search into this person Atrios (Brown University), have come across Matt Stoller (Harvard University), the President of BlogPAC.
BlogPAC, according to Wikipedia, ‘funds progressive blogs’. So my guess is that, when John Cole goes on these plane-trips, it is somehow associated with BlogPAC. In the second photo down in the link, we can observe Matt and Atrios.
John Cole is cooler than these guys. Join the Teabaggers. Become a Hoffman supporter. The Teabagger women are better looking than Janeane Garofalo. Janeane is in the previously mentioned photo with these two guys.
After observing this photo, I can also state with certainty that Teabaggers have more fun than BlogPAC members.
47.
jcricket
@lol: First, that’s why I support it. We Democrats can’t win without illegal votes of aliens, especially those that possess mind control powers; oh, and supervillians like Magneto. They are our main constituency.
Second, it’s a perfect Dem “wedge” issue. People love the convenience of voting by mail – and enough of them usually pick this option that the state will move to all-vote-by-mail over time.
But in the meantime Republicans will be out there railing against it (and ACORN, and FRAUD) – and just like in WA state, they’ll seem silly, out-of-touch and ridiculous (again, except to their base).
It’s depressing that a 25-30% slice of the population can’t be “converted” – we can only wait for them to die off over time – but I’ll take 70% :-)
Architects of the amendment [banning same sex marriage in Texas] included the clause to ban same-sex civil unions and domestic partnerships. But Radnofsky, who was a member of the powerhouse Vinson & Elkins law firm in Houston for 27 years until retiring in 2006, says the wording of Subsection B effectively “eliminates marriage in Texas,” including common-law marriages.
49.
The Moar You Know
Grifter. He knows damn well he didn’t win – if he did, he wouldn’t invoke the boogeyman of “Acorn and the unions” (worst band name ever) four times in his 419 scam fundraising letter.
Thanx. See, to me, recanvassing means ‘asking people – as in similar to polling’. Why the hell don’t they just say ‘recounting’? (Maybe it’s one of those Canadian-American differences, I dunno).
According to the Homeland Security Advisory System, I think we at the yellow level, or at an elevated significant attack of peak wingnut. Almost, but no cigar.
53.
sloan
I’m surprised it took him this long to play the ACORN card. Hoffman also “unconceded” on the Glenn Beck show. It looks like he wants to pull a Norm Coleman but he might have blown it by being honest on election night and admitting that he lost.
Amateur.
(In other news, a certain former half-term Governor of Alaska is touring America bragging about the “conservative victory” in NY-23. Takes notes Mr Hoffman, this is how they do it in the big leagues.)
I think we should encourage our wingtard ‘friends’ to donate as much money as possible to this recount. The more the better. As a matter of fact, we should start raising money for the recount support ourselves. Then we’ll do what Hoffman is really going to do with the money–have it all eaten up by ‘administrative overhead.’
Who’s up for a Balloon-Juice hospitality room (sponsored by Doug Hoffman, natch) at the next Netroots convention?
56.
soonergrunt
@Brick Oven Bill:
So I was wrong in the earlier thread.
The Carbon Dioxide has already affected BoB.
(In other news, a certain former half-term Governor of Alaska is touring America bragging about the “conservative victory” in NY-23. Takes notes Mr Hoffman, this is how they do it in the big leagues.)
This new approach is going to destroy conservative’s incentive to win. Losing really works out better. The money’s good, there’s no real responsibility or accountability, and they get more press than the winner.
I haven’t heard a word out of Bill Owens, and Sarah Palin is on television far more than Joe Biden.
The man looks like the bastard offspring of a corpse and worm. Which, let’s be honest, would explain a lot. As for this latest temper tantrum–he’s positioning for a 2010 run. The wingnut is a tempermental beast, after all, and lives in a world of conspiracies and “stabs in the back”. They never lose honestly. They are always betrayed, and terribly, terribly wronged.
John Cole is cooler than these guys. Join the Teabaggers.
WHOA! I think we have proof that BOB’s a spoof!
I mean, a conservative using the word “Teabagger” is like a concern troll giving away the game by accidentally, out of habit, saying “Democrat Party” instead of “Democratic Party”.
BOB’s a faux-con, or a mock-con. Take your pick.
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66.
The Moar You Know
@Brick Oven Bill: You are obviously wedded to Third-World cooking techniques. This is tragic, but your mindset explains why. Only one wedded to the inefficiencies and primitivism of the past would indulge in the wastefulness that is the brick oven, and listen to the siren song of those conservative commentators you mention. Like the mullahs of Islam, men like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity seek to return America to the seventh century.
We’ll have none of that.
Renounce your attachment to those who preach regression. Hot water and antibiotics are crucial to our modern society. Glenn Beck would rather that we not have these things.
Which brings me to my main point; ditch that pile of medieval masonry you have in your back yard. It’s the twenty-first century, for God’s sake. Men no longer should be cooking on piles of rocks. You live in America, not Africa.
You can even cook pizza on these beautiful examples of eighteenth-century technology, although you shouldn’t, as pizza is not good for you. Our president, a smart, healthy, fit and trim man, does not indulge in pizza, a food of the lazy and slothful.
Stop eating pizza and potatoes. You will end up obese, and it will require more Medicare dollars to treat you. A good citizen is mindful of such things.
@chopper: Okay, how long until all of them start doing it? And when they try to show up for their first day of “work” and are forcibly removed from the building, will they run away and start their own special government instead?
And for the person above who mentioned the cute puffy Michelin man, his name is Bibendum. In the spring he gives étoiles to all the good little chefs.
76.
Brick Oven Bill
This morning’s meal was mashed potatoes, The Moar You Know. Tonight will be pizza. These are excellent foods, and very healthy if you keep the amount of greasy toppings to a minimum.
My particular Teabagger circle is into boxing, so we work off a lot of calories, and are a very fit bunch. One of us is into Brazilian Jujitsu. Any one of us could easily out-box Barack, and most of us could out-box Michelle. I have in previous years spent regular time at the gym, but in my experience, there is no better exercise than boxing.
Good boxing begins as a Science, and later becomes an Art.
This is definitely the team to be on. Join us John Cole.
77.
The Dangerman
I suppose that Hoffman realized, or was told, that, if he wanted to qualify for wingnut welfare, he needed to find ways to stay in the churn.
I guess I need new glasses; I read that as “stay in the chum”. Although that fits, too, in a shark kinda way.
Best Buffy episode ever!
@bemused: You got it. He is at one of the most conservative Christian colleges here (they used to ban dancing because, you know, it’s just like sex). He is, indeed, a practitioner of gay repulsion therapy.
I watched a little of the clip of Biden on Jon Stewart and they were joking that Biden is the also-ran in terms of media coverage.
I imagine this going to ludicrous lengths. Standing behind every elected official is the loser, dissenting, loudly, and never, ever going away.
Me and my shadow. Stalked by the loser.
81.
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Christ on a stick! Al Gore didn’t even mention the well-known and egregious election fraud that took place in Florida, only wanted all the votes that were actually allowed to be cast counted, and he was a “sore loser.” Do these assholes even listen to themselves? I know better than to imagine the news media will point out the irony.
Oh, and BoB: nobody is better looking than Janeane Garofalo—on the rare occasions when she’s willing to let it show.
82.
Demo Woman
@dr. bloor: Tomorrow morning, Today Show and Good Morning America will both attempt interviews with Hoffman. Gee, if his story gains traction maybe NBC will even have Andrea come back from her mid west tour with Sarah.
83.
bago
[utl=http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/66698/detail/]The las unicorn[/url].
84.
bago
Holy crap that was a taco full of typos.
85.
tamied
@cleek: Rabblement: sounds like another name for Republican. I like it.
“Never” is a pretty long time. But, if you regard you lifetime as the only necessary dimension of “ever,” it’s probably true. Absent some unforeseen, catastrophic global event, I believe there is almost a null possibility of the emergence of anything like an autonomous, sovereign, internationally competent Palestinian state within my life-time, say another 15 years; I’m 64.
The GOP has become the party of 6-year-olds. “Do-over! Do-over!” Will these people ever grow up?
95.
Molly
@Brick Oven Bill: “My particular Teabagger circle is into boxing, so we work off a lot of calories, and are a very fit bunch. One of us is into Brazilian Jujitsu.”
My brother is a national champion of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (that’s the proper spelling). He’s 6’2 and is a solid mass of moving muscle. He is beyond intimidating.
He’s also more liberal than I am and thinks Beck and Palin and their ilk are wasting perfectly good oxygen by continuing to speak.
I’m sure he’d have no problems sparring with you and your teabagging boxing friends. I’d pay to see that, actually.
Where do you live?
96.
Rick Taylor
Wow. I clicked the link and discovered what you wrote wasn’t even snark; just an objective description of events. What a dysfunctional mess. If I were a Republican, I’d be too embarrassed to admit it in public these days.
I don’t believe you’re in any ‘teabagger circle’. You never do anything but post here, you don’t have time to be in any kind of ‘circle’ at all.
99.
JGabriel
BTW, since no one seems to have mentioned the numbers yet:
As of last night, Owens was leading by almost 2900 votes, with a little over 4200 left to count.
That means Hoffman would need to win about 80-85% of the remaining votes to win in a two person race.
Since the absentee ballots reflect a three-person race, the numbers are a little different. But even if Owens doesn’t get even a single remaining vote — i.e., if all the remaining votes were to be split between Hoffman and Scozzafava, Hoffman would still need about 70% of the remainder to win.
In other words, the chance that Hoffman could still win is somewhere between 0 and Negligible.
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100.
psycholinguist
Question for our lawyer people out there. Does Acorn have a case for libel here? Can this douche bag accuse them of the crime of vote tampering with impunity, or is there some mechanism for Acorn to say, you are making shit up and now you owe us money?
BTW, a number of you were very kind to me a few weeks ago, just want to say your thoughts and prayers were appreciated, little girl is hanging tough, and we are gonna lick this cancer thing.
The new national poll from Public Policy Polling (D) has an astonishing number about paranoia among the GOP base: Republicans do not think President Obama actually won the 2008 election — instead, ACORN stole it.
This number goes a long way towards explaining the anger of the Tea Party crowd. They not only think Obama’s agenda is against America, but they don’t think he was actually the choice of the American people at all! Interestingly, NY-23 Conservative candidate Doug Hoffman is now accusing ACORN of stealing his race, and Fox News personalities have often speculated about ACORN stealing the 2008 Minnesota Senate race for Al Franken.
The poll asked this question: “Do you think that Barack Obama legitimately won the Presidential election last year, or do you think that ACORN stole it for him?” The overall top-line is legitimately won 62%, ACORN stole it 26%.
Among Republicans, however, only 27% say Obama actually won the race, with 52% — an outright majority — saying that ACORN stole it, and 21% are undecided. Among McCain voters, the breakdown is 31%-49%-20%. By comparison, independents weigh in at 72%-18%-10%, and Democrats are 86%-9%-4%.
I don’t believe you’re in any ‘teabagger circle’. You never do anything but post here, you don’t have time to be in any kind of ‘circle’ at all.
Too easy. Should I go there, or should I restrain myself?
111.
Howlin Wolfe
@Brick Oven Bill: Gee BOB, would you want people to come over to your “side” on a whim? I thought you “conservatives” were principled. No? Just a fookin’ tribe? A tribe of idiot wackaloons (my favorite word lately – it seems so northwoodsy) like YOU? No thanks.
Of all the Wingnuttia flying about, it’s the mania about Acorn I least understand. I mean, what do they actually think Acorn is?
I suspect, like many things, they have no idea, at all. It’s just a catch-all term to describe something they don’t like. ACORN!
113.
Bmaccnm
@Brick Oven Bill:
Wow, BoB. I’ve been following you on BJ for only a few months and your mentation seems to have deteriorated. All I can say is that it’s too bad tertiary syphyllis can’t be cured with a simple antibiotic.
114.
Shell
Sheesh, look up ‘whiny cry-babies’ in the dictionary and Hoffman’s picture has gotta be there.
Acorn, Democrats and unions. How;d he Miss Ayers and Jane Fonda?
The wingnuts are determined to destroy ACORN. But without it, who would they blame in their convoluted, paranoid conspiracy theories?
Oh, wait. They never run out of fear-mongering enemies.
@cleek: I just discovered this fact myself. I am positively speechless. Which — as anyone who has ever met me so much as once or taken even a glimpse at my blog can tell you — is very rare indeed. Dumbfounded. Gobsmacked. The words – they fail.
Re: the 9% of Democrats, though, I have a few theories, but they mostly come down to the fact that polling is an imprecise science (I know!).
Surely some folks “identify” as Democrat, but are racists, so hate Obama, so think the election was illegitimate. And others aren’t very clever, and said “Democrat” but don’t really vote or understand the difference between the parties or meant “Republican.” And others lied. And the margin of error is +/- 3%.
So, you know. Like that. The other number? The one that indicates that 52% of the American right has lost its damn mind? I have no explanation for that.
119.
YellowJournalism
@LD50: When BoB writes about a “teabagger circle”, why do I think of that nasty cartoon of the Seven Dwarfs giving each other a helping hand?
After El Cid began to channel the BoBaloo, I thought, what if we had a whole thread devoted to BoBspoofs? People could vote on the best spoofs and win a gigantic bag of Cheetos or a (virtual) pizza fresh from the Brick.
It’ll be like McCain, or Palin. We’ll have the person who was elected act, and then we’ll hear from the person who lost, until the next election.
It’s fairer. Even-steven.
One could almost see this as a form of public service: “And now, here’s the crazy person to remind you exactly why you voted for their opponent.”
126.
Brittancus
WAKE UP AMERICA!
The lobbyists for the open border, the church, business consortium’s are deviously careful not to mention E-Verify, that discrepancies can be resolved at the Social Security agencies? Nor do they inform of the success rate of E-Verify, the fed immigration tool identifying illegal labor. These entities were nearly successful through the intervening Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), with support from majority speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to crush the computer verification program. Unfortunately, E-Verify may become obsolete if they pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform, that will legitimize 20 to 30 million illegal immigrants? Plus it’s being kept in the dark, that millions more will pour across our undermanned border, or from across the world, once they get the word that AMNESTY is about to commence?
We will be donating taxpayers dollars to support the poorest of families, with little or no education. Taxpayer will be paying for the old and sick person, mentally handicapped and those who need surgery who reaches American soil. It will be the–SAME– nightmare as the1986 immigration bill (IRCA) all over again, when 3 million materialized into 5.3 million and those working in agriculture disappeared, to enter the mainstream of US working class. Unless we put a stop to another BLANKET AMNESTY now–the impoverished, the criminals will keep coming–forever. Grade your policy makers at NUMBERSUSA? Read about Capitol corruption at JUDICIAL WATCH, ALIPAC, CAPSWEB, AMERICAN PATROL & THE DARK SIDE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. What can you do for AMERICA?
127.
BDeevDad
Did you hear that Dave Weigel is the new Executive Director of ACORN. He ReTweeted it. Damn liberal media. \s
128.
twiffer
@Brittancus: same nightmare as 1986? fuck, you mean the red sox are going to lose to the damn mets again?
129.
Soylent Green
Brittancus if you want your message to be heard you need to use MORE CAPITAL LETTERS.
It will be the—SAME—nightmare as the1986 immigration bill (IRCA) all over again, when 3 million materialized into 5.3 million and those working in agriculture disappeared, to enter the mainstream of US working class.
oh what a nightmare that was! damn you, Ronald Reagan!
131.
El Cid
@cleek: No one seems to remember that Saint Ronnie’s main 2 motivations were (1) to keep his death squad El Salvadoran government from collapsing, since the only thing holding their economy up then were remittances from Salvadorans working in the U.S., and (2) to respond to the needs of his service industry buddies in California whose economy was also bottoming out and the restaurants and construction and maintenance industry wanted the cheapest and most flexible labor force possible.
132.
tamied
@Soylent Green: I was waiting to see whether the BJers would respond to that insane outburst. I’m not disappointed.
133.
soonergrunt
@binz: What if binz is not real either? What if he’s a figment of BoB’s imagination? That would mean that none of us are real. We’re all figment’s of BoB’s imagination.
What if BoB is really Tommy Westphall?!
Col. Klink
Fox deletes another “un-story” while Beck leads two minutes of hate.
In other news, Princess Palin indicates there will never be a Palestinian state. Also. Rapture in days and weeks ahead? You betcha!
Brian J
Aren’t union members a pretty strong force in this upstate congressional district? If so, why would he decide to piss all over them if he’s thinking about a rematch? Is it because he doesn’t live in the district and thus doesn’t know it well?
Pigs & Spiders
Well his only other option is to go back to the crazies who brung him, so can you blame him?
r€nato
ACORN is the welfare queen of the conservative teabagger.
Scott H
I suppose that Hoffman realized, or was told, that, if he wanted to qualify for wingnut welfare, he needed to find ways to stay in the churn.
Waynski
I didn’t read the entire thing, but noticed more than one donation link. If he’s not required to spend the money he rasies through this letter on a recavassing effort, IMHO, he’s just raising money from the wingnuts with the ACORN bait.
truculent and unreliable
@r€nato: They’re essentially the same people, in their minds. (Blackity black BLACK BLACK!)
cleek
ACORN and the unions! and Soros! and Jesse Jackson! and Hitler!
it’s always the meddling external elements which defeat good honest American conservatism! (even when that conservatism is itself funded by meddling external elements)
Zifnab
Wait, is Bachman married? Because she and Hoffman would make the total power couple.
jcricket
Conservatives can never lose elections, they can only have them stolen from their rightful (whiteful?) owners.
Honestly, I have little faith in Americans to understand the difference between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats do a crap-ass job articulating why you’d want to vote for Democrats or just bending over backwards to be “centrist”. And Republicans traditionally avoided their actual agenda in favor of giveaways like Bush Tax Cuts + Medicare Part D (all the tax cuts and all the spending, whee!).
Somehow Republicans have decided this magical situation sucked and the solution is showing everyone who they really are – no wait, making it 100% clear that they’re not anyone other than Beck, Palin and Limbaugh types.
How they decided this was the road to electoral victory is beyond me, but, frankly, it’s fine. At least in the short term it will allow Democrats to maintain majorities even with our own failings. America needs that modicum of sanity right now.
Brian J
@cleek:
You forgot gay Arabs!
The Grand Panjandrum
Yeah, bashing unions in the NY-23 is certainly going to win him more votes if he decides to run next time. The stench he smells is a direct of his lips being firmly planted on Glenn Beck’s ass
dmsilev
Another mouthpiece for the Talking-point-o-matic. At this point, I think we should require all GOP candidates to submit to a shirtless inspection to check for the presence of one of those pull-strings in the middle of their back.
-dms
Crashman06
Someone needs to take that clip of Shatner screaming “KHAAAAAAN” from Star Trek II, and dub in the word ACORN instead.
Jay C
@Brian J:
Nahh, this is just the wingnuts trying to play the news for their usual win-win scenario: Hoffman wins, he wins; triumphalism all around and hip-hip hurray! If he loses, there is always some sinister machination behind it, and Teh Eeeeevul ACORN !!!1!!1!, being the right-wingers’ boogeyman-of-the-month fits the bill just the fine. Thus reassuring the teabagger crowd that Yes Indeed, They and They Alone are the True Voice of Real Americans; and that only the wicked conspiracies of The Enemy has kept them from their rightful possession of political power.
IOW, sore losers and fantasists. But so what else is new…..?
r€nato
He wants to be a conservative martyr. I hear there’s good money in that, just ask Sarah Palin.
HRA
All I did was see “slashing tires”. Wow, that’s something new at any place – at any time?
How many ways can we describe these idiots for accusing others without any real evidence to back them up? It reminds me of that girl who messed up her face during the primaries, blamed others, and got the attention.
jcricket
@cleek: The best thing to do, in terms of vote registration, is call Republicans bluff. Pass a couple of national laws:
1) Same day, super-easy registration, via any government agency (i.e. if you are at the DMV, or interacting with your utility company, they can register you).
2) Guaranteed no-fault absentee balloting. Voters like it, makes a ton of intimidation tactics worthless, and eliminates long-lines, broken machine issues, Diebold touch-screen fraud issues, etc.
Call it the “WAR ON ACORN” act. Or the “clean elections act” or whatever.
Sure, Republicans will oppose it, but that’s fine – they’ll be shown to oppose things the people want and appear ridiculous to everyone outside their base.
Same tactic needs to be applied to birth control/sex ed (and a bunch of other stuff where Republican views are nuts, when out in the open and expressed forcefully).
bemused
@Zifnab:
Michele Bachmann already has a soul mate. Her husband is a therapist who “degays” gay people.
joes527
@Col. Klink:
Reading Palin’s comments on Israel and settlements, it is fascinating that her timeline for the end times seems to have been exposed as “weeks and months.”
Evidently, she is a Mayan too.
I’ve been of the opinion that she wouldn’t run in 2012 because she is all about money and celebrity and has no interest in actually governing.
I now think that she _will_ run, based on her understanding that she will get the fame of being elected queen of America, and then get raptured away before she has to do any actual work.
I’m not up on my Book of Revelation. Does that make her the anti-christ?
Libby
@Zifnab: I’m told Bachmann is married to a psychiatrist. Certain cosmic symmetry in that…
Comrade Darkness
The fact that Hoffman is a prick is apparently lost on him. It’s not lost on the NY-23 Republicans, however. Some sanity prevails, amazingly.
Libby
I have to get out of here and commence packing. I’m moving for the third time this year. But just a word to John Cole, if you’re still reading, I believe you’re in what they call Twitter jail. Not sure what it is, but changing clients I’ve heard will work sometimes. Try logging in directly from the web. It might help.
pcbedamned
A question: When they say ‘recanvassing’, do they mean they are going door to door asking people who they voted for? Or are they actually counting cast ballots?
Comrade Darkness
@Libby: Have you ever met a psychiatrist who wasn’t f*cked up? I’m willing to accept there are a handful of outliers who are well adjusted . . . I’m going for the median here.
OH, and he’s a de-ghayer, I see, glancing above. So, he has a degree, but he can’t read and comprehend actual literature from his field of choice. I’ll go for douche-bag then.
Col. Klink
@joes527
Holy
shit, thanks for connecting the dots. Palin in 2012 = Mayan calendar. Maybe they were right???Short of Zhirinovsky getting has finger on the button I couldn’t think of a faster way to end the world than electing St. Moose of Wasilla.
Brian J
@HRA: You laugh now, but once your tires are slashed by these imaginary ACORN union member thugs, you won’t be so cheery.
cleek
yeah sure Palin has no interest in running.
Casca, to Brutus:
I can as well be hanged as tell the manner of it:
it was mere foolery; I did not mark it. I saw Mark
Antony offer him a crown;–yet ’twas not a crown
neither, ’twas one of these coronets;–and, as I told
you, he put it by once: but, for all that, to my
thinking, he would fain have had it. Then he
offered it to him again; then he put it by again:
but, to my thinking, he was very loath to lay his
fingers off it. And then he offered it the third
time; he put it the third time by: and still as he
refused it, the rabblement hooted and clapped their
chapped hands and threw up their sweaty night-caps
and uttered such a deal of stinking breath because
Caesar refused the crown that it had almost choked
Caesar; for he swounded and fell down at it: and
for mine own part, I durst not laugh, for fear of
opening my lips and receiving the bad air.
dmsilev
@pcbedamned: Generally, recanvassing is just recounting all of the cast ballots, the absentees, etc.
-dms
Comrade Mary
@Libby: Enjoy packing! One reason I’m not selling this house is that I’ll be damned if I ever have to move again.
I don’t think John’s in Twitter jail. You get banged up in there only if you tweet more than 100 times an hour. John was moving at a definitively Tunchesque pace, so that can’t be it.
jayjaybear
The wingnuts haven’t figured out how regional differences in party make-up are important. To them, if you’re Republican, then you’re just like the current national Republicans: wingnut teabagger ultraconservative Christians. The idea that there are Northeastern Republicans (Rockefeller Republicans) has escaped them, leading to pretty much a Republican rout in New England and most of New York (Congressionally, anyway).
The Republicans of NY-23 are NOT national Republicans, and have actually been reacting very badly to Hoffman’s assertions of interference and vote-stealing.
JGabriel
Doug Hoffman (via TPM):
I hate it when ACORN fouls up my phone, and then makes me read bad numbers.
Oh, ACORN, I can’t resist your bad number compelling ways. I wish I knew how to quit you!
.
DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)
Unions & ACORN. Hmmm… Unions & A CORN… Uni ons & A CORN…
A UniCORN! Hoffman found A UniCORN! See! There was a secret coded message he was beaming out to the Beckerheads and somehow I picked up a stray signal!
I can haz A UniCORN nao?
Comrade Darkness
better info on the recount from syracuse.com.
kay
This could get really silly.
“As evidence surfaces, we find out that reported results from election night were far from accurate. ACORN and the unions did their best to try and sway the results to Obamacare supporter Bill Owens.”
I’m resigned to hearing how Hoffman would have voted had he been elected every time Bill Owens casts a vote in the House.
It’ll be like McCain, or Palin. We’ll have the person who was elected act, and then we’ll hear from the person who lost, until the next election.
It’s fairer. Even-steven.
Comrade Darkness
And the letter to the candidates about the recanvassing Sorry for the double post, was afraid two links would get me deep sixed.
Scott de B.
No tires were slashed — it was a glass bottle.
AkaDad
ACORN is responsible for why it hurts when I pee.
cleek
@Scott de B.:
it was a Democratic bottle, planted by union members who had been hired by ACORN with Soros’ money, to ram the Obama agenda down the throats of conservatives.
lol
@jcricket:
Absentee ballots allow black felons and illegal Mexicans to vote so we have to go back to poll place voting where Real Americans can properly screen for
skin colorcitizenship.GregB
I blame the Acorns. They are always slashing backwards B’s into tires.
-G
joes527
@Scott de B.:
The amazing part is that the broken bottle actually cut the tire in the shape of an inverted ‘B.’
Comrade Darkness
@cleek: Is this before or after they have to bend over backwards for them, and have the hammer put on them?
All republicans are former clients of Bachmann’s husband.
call_me_ishmael
I think DougJ has infiltrated the article’s comments thread:
Good Stuff.
Violet
Peak Wingnut is clearly not here yet.
Brick Oven Bill
I have noticed a common theme among progressive blogs. Glenn Beck bad. Sean Hannity not worth discussing. Sarah Palin bad. Mike Huckabee not worth discussing. Beck-Palin threat. Hannity-Huckabee not threat. Forget about Greta.
I have been seeking the source of the datafeed of these progressive blogs, and, through a search into this person Atrios (Brown University), have come across Matt Stoller (Harvard University), the President of BlogPAC.
BlogPAC, according to Wikipedia, ‘funds progressive blogs’. So my guess is that, when John Cole goes on these plane-trips, it is somehow associated with BlogPAC. In the second photo down in the link, we can observe Matt and Atrios.
John Cole is cooler than these guys. Join the Teabaggers. Become a Hoffman supporter. The Teabagger women are better looking than Janeane Garofalo. Janeane is in the previously mentioned photo with these two guys.
After observing this photo, I can also state with certainty that Teabaggers have more fun than BlogPAC members.
jcricket
@lol: First, that’s why I support it. We Democrats can’t win without illegal votes of aliens, especially those that possess mind control powers; oh, and supervillians like Magneto. They are our main constituency.
Second, it’s a perfect Dem “wedge” issue. People love the convenience of voting by mail – and enough of them usually pick this option that the state will move to all-vote-by-mail over time.
But in the meantime Republicans will be out there railing against it (and ACORN, and FRAUD) – and just like in WA state, they’ll seem silly, out-of-touch and ridiculous (again, except to their base).
It’s depressing that a 25-30% slice of the population can’t be “converted” – we can only wait for them to die off over time – but I’ll take 70% :-)
The Grand Panjandrum
OT Irony Alert:
The Moar You Know
Grifter. He knows damn well he didn’t win – if he did, he wouldn’t invoke the boogeyman of “Acorn and the unions” (worst band name ever) four times in his
419 scamfundraising letter.pcbedamned
@dmsilev:
Thanx. See, to me, recanvassing means ‘asking people – as in similar to polling’. Why the hell don’t they just say ‘recounting’? (Maybe it’s one of those Canadian-American differences, I dunno).
jibeaux
@bemused:
I’m going to go with “no, he doesn’t.” :)
Da Bomb
@Violet: Unfortunately, I don’t think so either.
According to the Homeland Security Advisory System, I think we at the yellow level, or at an elevated significant attack of peak wingnut. Almost, but no cigar.
sloan
I’m surprised it took him this long to play the ACORN card. Hoffman also “unconceded” on the Glenn Beck show. It looks like he wants to pull a Norm Coleman but he might have blown it by being honest on election night and admitting that he lost.
Amateur.
(In other news, a certain former half-term Governor of Alaska is touring America bragging about the “conservative victory” in NY-23. Takes notes Mr Hoffman, this is how they do it in the big leagues.)
dr. bloor
@r€nato:
We have bingo. The challenge and the letter are all about parting fools from their money to keep the gravy train rolling, no more, no less.
soonergrunt
@DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal): Win.
@AkaDad: More win.
I think we should encourage our wingtard ‘friends’ to donate as much money as possible to this recount. The more the better. As a matter of fact, we should start raising money for the recount support ourselves. Then we’ll do what Hoffman is really going to do with the money–have it all eaten up by ‘administrative overhead.’
Who’s up for a Balloon-Juice hospitality room (sponsored by Doug Hoffman, natch) at the next Netroots convention?
soonergrunt
@Brick Oven Bill:
So I was wrong in the earlier thread.
The Carbon Dioxide has already affected BoB.
HRA
@Brian J:
Not a worry -I have a direct line to the cute puffy Michelin man.
@Scott de B.:
The mystery is solved. Unless, of course, the bottle could be traced to Hoffmann and his staff.
arguingwithsignposts
@dr. bloor:
except hoffman is about as charismatic as a wet rug, unlike the former half-term governor of alaska.
soonergrunt
@HRA:
Where is Ashley Todd these days?
truculent and unreliable
How long before conservatives just start declaring victory in every election, whether they win or not?
kay
@sloan:
This new approach is going to destroy conservative’s incentive to win. Losing really works out better. The money’s good, there’s no real responsibility or accountability, and they get more press than the winner.
I haven’t heard a word out of Bill Owens, and Sarah Palin is on television far more than Joe Biden.
chopper
@DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal):
my god, i see it. it’s like one of those magic eye things. jesus, i see it.
i knew it was the unicorns. even when it wasn’t them, i knew it was them.
Silver Owl
A white republican man can never lose because he exists therefore it must be Acorn’s evil magic.
Today’s republicans are embarassing to the human race. Actually they would be embarassing to any species with any level of brain function.
John Ball
The man looks like the bastard offspring of a corpse and worm. Which, let’s be honest, would explain a lot. As for this latest temper tantrum–he’s positioning for a 2010 run. The wingnut is a tempermental beast, after all, and lives in a world of conspiracies and “stabs in the back”. They never lose honestly. They are always betrayed, and terribly, terribly wronged.
JGabriel
Brick Oven Bill:
WHOA! I think we have proof that BOB’s a spoof!
I mean, a conservative using the word “Teabagger” is like a concern troll giving away the game by accidentally, out of habit, saying “Democrat Party” instead of “Democratic Party”.
BOB’s a faux-con, or a mock-con. Take your pick.
.
The Moar You Know
@Brick Oven Bill: You are obviously wedded to Third-World cooking techniques. This is tragic, but your mindset explains why. Only one wedded to the inefficiencies and primitivism of the past would indulge in the wastefulness that is the brick oven, and listen to the siren song of those conservative commentators you mention. Like the mullahs of Islam, men like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity seek to return America to the seventh century.
We’ll have none of that.
Renounce your attachment to those who preach regression. Hot water and antibiotics are crucial to our modern society. Glenn Beck would rather that we not have these things.
Which brings me to my main point; ditch that pile of medieval masonry you have in your back yard. It’s the twenty-first century, for God’s sake. Men no longer should be cooking on piles of rocks. You live in America, not Africa.
You can even cook pizza on these beautiful examples of eighteenth-century technology, although you shouldn’t, as pizza is not good for you. Our president, a smart, healthy, fit and trim man, does not indulge in pizza, a food of the lazy and slothful.
Stop eating pizza and potatoes. You will end up obese, and it will require more Medicare dollars to treat you. A good citizen is mindful of such things.
chopper
@truculent and unreliable:
waddya mean, ‘how long’?
Annnie
The best part — Mr. Hoffman: “Please donate money”
R-Jud
@chopper:
You want them on your side. Seriously.
arguingwithsignposts
@The Moar You Know:
Whoa, TMYK, that’s some serious BoB spoofery there. I had to re-read the last para. to make sure it wasn’t actually BoB quoted.
DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)
@R-Jud:
Will they make UniCORN mayonnaise and sandwiches? (Robot Chicken reference)
Persia
@kay: “Could?” I think we’re already there.
soonergrunt
@The Moar You Know: TMYK FTW!!
truculent and unreliable
@chopper: Okay, how long until all of them start doing it? And when they try to show up for their first day of “work” and are forcibly removed from the building, will they run away and start their own special government instead?
MikeJ
@R-Jud: Or this:
http://www.society6.com/cdn/images/post_10/43832_6214266_l.jpg
And for the person above who mentioned the cute puffy Michelin man, his name is Bibendum. In the spring he gives étoiles to all the good little chefs.
Brick Oven Bill
This morning’s meal was mashed potatoes, The Moar You Know. Tonight will be pizza. These are excellent foods, and very healthy if you keep the amount of greasy toppings to a minimum.
My particular Teabagger circle is into boxing, so we work off a lot of calories, and are a very fit bunch. One of us is into Brazilian Jujitsu. Any one of us could easily out-box Barack, and most of us could out-box Michelle. I have in previous years spent regular time at the gym, but in my experience, there is no better exercise than boxing.
Good boxing begins as a Science, and later becomes an Art.
This is definitely the team to be on. Join us John Cole.
The Dangerman
I guess I need new glasses; I read that as “stay in the chum”. Although that fits, too, in a shark kinda way.
Pigs & Spiders
We’ll know he’s going the full wingnut when he claims that ACORN is after his precious fluids.
asiangrrlMN
Best Buffy episode ever!
@bemused: You got it. He is at one of the most conservative Christian colleges here (they used to ban dancing because, you know, it’s just like sex). He is, indeed, a practitioner of gay repulsion therapy.
Here he is. Ha-cha-cha.
No wonder Michele had a hard-on for W.
kay
@Persia:
I watched a little of the clip of Biden on Jon Stewart and they were joking that Biden is the also-ran in terms of media coverage.
I imagine this going to ludicrous lengths. Standing behind every elected official is the loser, dissenting, loudly, and never, ever going away.
Me and my shadow. Stalked by the loser.
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
Christ on a stick! Al Gore didn’t even mention the well-known and egregious election fraud that took place in Florida, only wanted all the votes that were actually allowed to be cast counted, and he was a “sore loser.” Do these assholes even listen to themselves? I know better than to imagine the news media will point out the irony.
Oh, and BoB: nobody is better looking than Janeane Garofalo—on the rare occasions when she’s willing to let it show.
Demo Woman
@dr. bloor: Tomorrow morning, Today Show and Good Morning America will both attempt interviews with Hoffman. Gee, if his story gains traction maybe NBC will even have Andrea come back from her mid west tour with Sarah.
bago
[utl=http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/66698/detail/]The las unicorn[/url].
bago
Holy crap that was a taco full of typos.
tamied
@cleek: Rabblement: sounds like another name for Republican. I like it.
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
@The Dangerman:
Sans-serif type strikes again! When will it be banned?
woody
“There will never be a Palestinian state.”
“Never” is a pretty long time. But, if you regard you lifetime as the only necessary dimension of “ever,” it’s probably true. Absent some unforeseen, catastrophic global event, I believe there is almost a null possibility of the emergence of anything like an autonomous, sovereign, internationally competent Palestinian state within my life-time, say another 15 years; I’m 64.
handy
@The Moar You Know:
You just out-BOBed BOB.
woody
bemused:
I guess that would make him ‘disingaynuous?’
asiangrrlMN
@woody: Ha! LOVE it.
kay
@The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge:
There’s a pattern. Prejean, Palin, Hoffman, even Orly.
Dick Cheney, of course, is the champ.
They lose, but they will not concede. It’s an unusual way to look at the world, admittedly.
It’s probably a new “core principle”. Admitting you lost is appeasement?
R-Jud
@MikeJ: But wait, there’s more! Robocop on a Unicorn.
handy
@handy:
Without all the crazy, of course.
Barbara Cooper
The GOP has become the party of 6-year-olds. “Do-over! Do-over!” Will these people ever grow up?
Molly
@Brick Oven Bill: “My particular Teabagger circle is into boxing, so we work off a lot of calories, and are a very fit bunch. One of us is into Brazilian Jujitsu.”
My brother is a national champion of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (that’s the proper spelling). He’s 6’2 and is a solid mass of moving muscle. He is beyond intimidating.
He’s also more liberal than I am and thinks Beck and Palin and their ilk are wasting perfectly good oxygen by continuing to speak.
I’m sure he’d have no problems sparring with you and your teabagging boxing friends. I’d pay to see that, actually.
Where do you live?
Rick Taylor
Wow. I clicked the link and discovered what you wrote wasn’t even snark; just an objective description of events. What a dysfunctional mess. If I were a Republican, I’d be too embarrassed to admit it in public these days.
The Moar You Know
@arguingwithsignposts: working on it.
LD50
@Brick Oven Bill:
I don’t believe you’re in any ‘teabagger circle’. You never do anything but post here, you don’t have time to be in any kind of ‘circle’ at all.
JGabriel
BTW, since no one seems to have mentioned the numbers yet:
As of last night, Owens was leading by almost 2900 votes, with a little over 4200 left to count.
That means Hoffman would need to win about 80-85% of the remaining votes to win in a two person race.
Since the absentee ballots reflect a three-person race, the numbers are a little different. But even if Owens doesn’t get even a single remaining vote — i.e., if all the remaining votes were to be split between Hoffman and Scozzafava, Hoffman would still need about 70% of the remainder to win.
In other words, the chance that Hoffman could still win is somewhere between 0 and Negligible.
.
psycholinguist
Question for our lawyer people out there. Does Acorn have a case for libel here? Can this douche bag accuse them of the crime of vote tampering with impunity, or is there some mechanism for Acorn to say, you are making shit up and now you owe us money?
BTW, a number of you were very kind to me a few weeks ago, just want to say your thoughts and prayers were appreciated, little girl is hanging tough, and we are gonna lick this cancer thing.
chopper
@R-Jud:
that’s the second thing i thought of when i had read ‘unicorns’.
Rick Taylor
Yup, if I were a Republican, I’d certainly be too embarrassed to admit it.
cleek
a majority of republicans think ACORN stole the 08 election for Obama.
fucking delusional.
cleek
who are the 9% of Democrats who think ACORN stole the election ?
Johnny Pez
@kay:
Thus is the liberal media conspiracy exposed! They’re bribing conservative politicians to lose by letting the losers be on the TV all they want.
It’s insidious!
Howlin Wolfe
@Zifnab: Don’t know about Bachman, but Batshit Crazy Wackaloon Representative Michele Bachmann (R-MN) is married. He picks out her dresses for her!
Johnny Pez
@cleek:
Dixiecrats who never bothered to switch their party registrations.
Comrade Kevin
@Rick Taylor: This country is fucking nuts.
Gus
He’s not a very good wingnut if he hasn’t yet learned to call the Democratic Party, the Democrat Party.
joel
@LD50:
Too easy. Should I go there, or should I restrain myself?
Howlin Wolfe
@Brick Oven Bill: Gee BOB, would you want people to come over to your “side” on a whim? I thought you “conservatives” were principled. No? Just a fookin’ tribe? A tribe of idiot wackaloons (my favorite word lately – it seems so northwoodsy) like YOU? No thanks.
Redshirt
Of all the Wingnuttia flying about, it’s the mania about Acorn I least understand. I mean, what do they actually think Acorn is?
I suspect, like many things, they have no idea, at all. It’s just a catch-all term to describe something they don’t like. ACORN!
Bmaccnm
@Brick Oven Bill:
Wow, BoB. I’ve been following you on BJ for only a few months and your mentation seems to have deteriorated. All I can say is that it’s too bad tertiary syphyllis can’t be cured with a simple antibiotic.
Shell
Sheesh, look up ‘whiny cry-babies’ in the dictionary and Hoffman’s picture has gotta be there.
Acorn, Democrats and unions. How;d he Miss Ayers and Jane Fonda?
The wingnuts are determined to destroy ACORN. But without it, who would they blame in their convoluted, paranoid conspiracy theories?
Oh, wait. They never run out of fear-mongering enemies.
Howlin Wolfe
@Brick Oven Bill: Brazilian jujitsu, huh? You phony.
phoebes-in-santa fe
@joel: joel, you’re a chicken. I’ll do it. “Circle-jerk”. There….
ruemara
@LD50:
au contraire, the Ovenman has all the time in the world for a circular jerk of 1.
ellaesther
@cleek: I just discovered this fact myself. I am positively speechless. Which — as anyone who has ever met me so much as once or taken even a glimpse at my blog can tell you — is very rare indeed. Dumbfounded. Gobsmacked. The words – they fail.
Re: the 9% of Democrats, though, I have a few theories, but they mostly come down to the fact that polling is an imprecise science (I know!).
Surely some folks “identify” as Democrat, but are racists, so hate Obama, so think the election was illegitimate. And others aren’t very clever, and said “Democrat” but don’t really vote or understand the difference between the parties or meant “Republican.” And others lied. And the margin of error is +/- 3%.
So, you know. Like that. The other number? The one that indicates that 52% of the American right has lost its damn mind? I have no explanation for that.
YellowJournalism
@LD50: When BoB writes about a “teabagger circle”, why do I think of that nasty cartoon of the Seven Dwarfs giving each other a helping hand?
Thlayli
@Redshirt:
They think it’s Obama’s seekrit ninja army.
Duh….
licensed to kill time
@The Moar You Know: Wow, this is excellent BoBamitation.
After El Cid began to channel the BoBaloo, I thought, what if we had a whole thread devoted to BoBspoofs? People could vote on the best spoofs and win a gigantic bag of Cheetos or a (virtual) pizza fresh from the Brick.
Too much?
binz
@The Moar You Know:
That was awesome. Damn you’re getting good at channeling BoB.
Wait a sec…a terrible thought occurred to me…what if TMYK is really BoB?
Or wait again! Even worse! What if it’s BoB pretending to be TMYK channeling BoB?!1?!
Or even more horrible…what if it’s all really DouggieJ, spooferific mastermind, pretending to be Bob pretending to be TMYK pretending to be BoB?????
Arrrgah!
chopper
@Redshirt:
i think these people watch too much Get Smart. acorn is apparently the new KAOS.
Rick Taylor
I could believe some of that is just people who like to mess with polls.
Martian Buddy
@kay:
One could almost see this as a form of public service: “And now, here’s the crazy person to remind you exactly why you voted for their opponent.”
Brittancus
WAKE UP AMERICA!
The lobbyists for the open border, the church, business consortium’s are deviously careful not to mention E-Verify, that discrepancies can be resolved at the Social Security agencies? Nor do they inform of the success rate of E-Verify, the fed immigration tool identifying illegal labor. These entities were nearly successful through the intervening Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), with support from majority speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to crush the computer verification program. Unfortunately, E-Verify may become obsolete if they pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform, that will legitimize 20 to 30 million illegal immigrants? Plus it’s being kept in the dark, that millions more will pour across our undermanned border, or from across the world, once they get the word that AMNESTY is about to commence?
We will be donating taxpayers dollars to support the poorest of families, with little or no education. Taxpayer will be paying for the old and sick person, mentally handicapped and those who need surgery who reaches American soil. It will be the–SAME– nightmare as the1986 immigration bill (IRCA) all over again, when 3 million materialized into 5.3 million and those working in agriculture disappeared, to enter the mainstream of US working class. Unless we put a stop to another BLANKET AMNESTY now–the impoverished, the criminals will keep coming–forever. Grade your policy makers at NUMBERSUSA? Read about Capitol corruption at JUDICIAL WATCH, ALIPAC, CAPSWEB, AMERICAN PATROL & THE DARK SIDE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. What can you do for AMERICA?
BDeevDad
Did you hear that Dave Weigel is the new Executive Director of ACORN. He ReTweeted it. Damn liberal media. \s
twiffer
@Brittancus: same nightmare as 1986? fuck, you mean the red sox are going to lose to the damn mets again?
Soylent Green
Brittancus if you want your message to be heard you need to use MORE CAPITAL LETTERS.
cleek
oh what a nightmare that was! damn you, Ronald Reagan!
El Cid
@cleek: No one seems to remember that Saint Ronnie’s main 2 motivations were (1) to keep his death squad El Salvadoran government from collapsing, since the only thing holding their economy up then were remittances from Salvadorans working in the U.S., and (2) to respond to the needs of his service industry buddies in California whose economy was also bottoming out and the restaurants and construction and maintenance industry wanted the cheapest and most flexible labor force possible.
tamied
@Soylent Green: I was waiting to see whether the BJers would respond to that insane outburst. I’m not disappointed.
soonergrunt
@binz: What if binz is not real either? What if he’s a figment of BoB’s imagination? That would mean that none of us are real. We’re all figment’s of BoB’s imagination.
What if BoB is really Tommy Westphall?!
SiubhanDuinne
@Comrade Mary:
We have to use this again and again.
SiubhanDuinne
@sloan:
I saw “half.” I saw “Alaska.” What popped into my head was “Half-baked Alaska.”
licensed to kill time
I think Tunch steals my reply arrow every night, prolly eats it. Regurgitate my arrow at once, you cad!